Why you should use an iPad for your Electronic Drums
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2022
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AVOID THE IPAD 10th GEN! Basically, Apple removed literally everything from the new iPads that made them so great. They got rid of the audio jack, and the lightning port! They currently still sell the 9th gen (the one in this video), so get that one if you're looking to buy. If you want to use a 10th Gen or Pro, you'll need multiple adapters and dongles.
Thanks for the advice. I have a very old mini iPad with an old iOS. It has Garage Band. But the problem is that it ceased to recognize the midi devices I attached to the generic lighting cable I used. This happened after one update. I think Apple does this on purpose to make one buy the newer Gen iPads.
Justin , I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you (and Kevin Williams) for inspiring me to get back into the drums after a thirty year break. The evolution of his Alesis Nitro has been extremely informative. Also, all of your informative videos with the good and bad out there regarding edrums and your overall experience and know-how with music helped to push me over the edge. So, after two days of reviews / links /add to cart / remove from cart / lists / videos etc., I took the plunge. I took a bit of a different path than Kevin did though. I didn't want to get a kit then add to it. My research on it showed that to be far more costly in the long run. So today, I purchased TWO drum sets off of Amazon one being a larger kit, the other smaller. The large kit is the eight piece mesh from Lyx and the smaller is an Alesis Turbo mesh. I chose the Lyx over the Nitro mesh for a couple of reasons. It has a ten inch snare and all the tom pads are dual triggered plus a pretty robust rack. The drum module features are quite similar to the nitros also. Lastly, although I suspect both company's drum pads came from the same factory by their looks, the Lyx's pads resemble those of the Alesis Surge kit. The smaller Alesis kit was a no brainer to be the add on as they've proven to be winners across the board. The small kit comes this Sunday and the larger on Tuesday (out the door cost with a few doo-dads was about $700). I spent about three hours drawing out a mockup of the combined kit to include rearranging tube positions and arranging the pad/cymbals and it should be pretty cool if it turns out the way I've engineered it. I've never used my UA-cam page really but I am going to change that and post a video of the build to keep all informed. Again, thank you for all that you've done and, keep up the good work! - Todd PS- you've got a hell of a shirt collection!
Awe that awesome, thanks so much for telling me your story! Glad I helped you decide to get back into drumming!
Thanks Mate, that was great & very useful 👍🏼
Justin, thank you for this. I do have the Nitro Mesh and convinced myself I needed a music interface… but it looks like a cable may do the trick! I’m a big Garage Band fan and learning drums. You’ve opened some fun options for me. I enjoy your drumming skills as well
Glad I could help! Yeah, Garageband and a usb / lightning cable will give you some awesome sounds!
Thank you so much
Glad someone out there to teach others
It's my pleasure!
Very helpful! Thank you!
My pleasure!
Good explanation and demo's.
Thank you!
Thank you so much ❤
Thanks so much for this UA-cam clip..opened my eyes for what is possible with an iPad..I'm normally a Windows user..but my Android tablet of course does not support Garage band..although I did find a DAW NTrack DAW ..but trying to get in line with recording my drums, guitar or synth plus have looked at EZdrummer3 and SD3 ..those software cost really don't fit my budget ..but by looking into iPad I don't even have to bother with that ..plus iPad provides Procreate for my visual art needs ..so the best of all worlds ..
Yeah, the iPad like I said in this video is just one of the most cost-effective creative tools you can buy for your drums. Really, they're the most cost-effective musical device in general for music! And art too as you said. I love my iPad!
Thank you!!! This is fabulous!! I have the Alesis Surge kit and I happen to have an IPad and had no idea I could do this!!! 😅😅😅
Thanks again! I’m a new drummer too
Glad to help!
@@demonicsweaters hi again I’m just trying it now and I can’t get my kit to come through my iPad. I have the correct cord 🤔
Wow dude !!!
I just watched a few of your videos.
I remember when you got your Alesis Nitro...lol
I've been following you for a while.
I just ordered the TD 27 module and digital snare, and have the TD-17kvx.
It's good to see we both have decent sets now.
Hehehehehe
I want to connect them when it comes, and add more drums.
I was wondering what the best way to do that is.
Chain them with midi, or use a mixer ?
Not a lot of videos about it on UA-cam.
And it's strange how limited edrums are as far as adding pads or cymbals.
If you have time, I'm sure people would perhaps be interested in learning more about that if you experimented with it.
But I think I might get an iPad now to record after watching this.
Thanks for your videos !!!
Really big help !!!
Have a great day !!!
:-)
Such a good tutorial. What i use though is a surface pro with Addictive drums! getting 1.5 ms latency (@64 samples) with the stock audio drivers running through asio4all.
Using this setup I’ve always had issues with midi trigger timing in GarageBand plus there’s no way to sync some drums up to the GarageBand app , the hi hat control is impossible , plus no adjustments can be made , you make it look plug in simple , but we all know that’s not the case ! If only ! . Quantisation off , still causes major issues , quantisation on , it’s missing the rolls lol , so far I’ve not fixed these issues , so always have to record live acoustic drums . A video on these issues ( that most people experience) would be nice and educational. If you’ve not had issues , your a very lucky man . 👍👍
Honestly I’ve never had any of these issues and have tried at least 4 different drum kits by differing manufacturers. What kind of drums are you using?
Nice jam.
Thank you!
M8 I’m so happy about this video lmao I literally use my iPhone and iPad with my edrums just cause it’s AMAZING!!!!! 😬👍🏼
Right? It's crazy awesome!
Yeah I have a WIDIBUD hooked up to my kit and simply plug and play through Bluetooth. Multi tracks, has far superior sounds than my kit, I can add effect chains to my independent channels… I mean, it’s just a dream, especially considering that even the WIDIBUD is more expensive than any drum app you might need (or all of them together actually), so if you already have an iPad or iPhone it’s a just a match made in heaven
I just got a new iPad and use Logic Pro with it, convenient to record outdoors and I can read sheet music with it also
Awesome, yeah iPads are amazing. I haven't really used Logic much yet. How do you like it?
I don't like Apple, but looks like I'll have to buy an iPad for drum covers.
Thanks for the valuable info!
Been wanting to steer clear of EZ Drummer and other expensive options. This video was great! All I want to do is improve the quality of the drum sounds during my practice. Subbed!
Two questions:
1. If I understood the video correctly, once I connect my iPad to the Alesis module with the cable seen in the video all I need to do is plug a pair of headphones or speakers into the aux port on the iPad, right? Again--not trying to do anything too fancy. Just want one or two good sounding kits to hear while practicing instead of listening to the terrible stock module sounds. Don't really ever plan to record anything either.
2. What was the difference from clip at 9:42 and the second clip at 10:53? First clip sounded better. Might be a noob question!
Thanks for commenting! #1 - yep. You may need to possibly adjust some midi notes in the nitro module if things don't map correctly, but it should be fine. #2 - Clip 1 is the built-in sounds in Garageband, clip 2 is the module sounds recorded into Gargageband via audio input.
@@demonicsweaters Thanks a ton!
Garage band is amazing. Steve lacy, joji make their beats using this software
I have a Yamaha dtx 520k I have everything set up properly! But I don’t know how to turn off local control! I can hear garage band drums but through the headphones! When I hit the iPad! But still hear the module drums! When I hit them! I need help
Yo. Can you make a video on how to assign different drum sounds to different pads on the electric drum set when using garage band. Or can you change drum sounds (say you want a shaker on drum set) while recording on GarageBand. Hope that makes sense. Great channel!
You really can't. The garageband drums are hardwired. But there's a lot of kits to choose from. You could however change the midi note from your drum module and have some control over which pad is triggering what.
Ok, cool. I’ll mess around with that. Thank you!
so what do you do if your Ipad doesnt have an 8th inch headphone input for monitoring?
Hi, do I have to use headphones on the iPad to hear what I’m playing or no?
Thanks for all the information! It's great! I'm looking at a new iPad 9th generation. Is the 64 gb enough for most of these things or should I get the 256 gb? Thank you again for all this help!
I think the lowest 9th gen is 128, it is fine for me.
@demonicsweaters If you get time, could you make a video showing how to make a short song track using garageband and a Titan 50 or Titan 70? For those of us just getting new e-kits and aren't that familiar with garageband. I need to make the worst album ever made
Awesome info.thanks. How do u add the drumless music or song track to the recording / video ?
You would need to find a drumless track, then you could import it into Garageband, Logic, or Cubase
When i use garage Band stopping after 32 beat. What is fix do you know¿
Awesome idea! I just wonder what is the latency that you have when listening to your playing thru the iPad?
It's very usable.
Justin love your videos regarding alesis nitro mesh kit I have learnt so much on my new nitro kit. I have an iPad, not brand new , and I am struggling to connect to garageband. A couple of questions if I may.
I have bought from Amazon 2 different types of adaptor to fit on the USB cable provided and neither seem to work .
1 Does the connector have to be an authentic apple product ?
Apple products are expensive and I do not want to buy something that still doesn't work.
2 is there a specific setting on the nitro mesh or garageband to enable a midi connection.
I hope you can clarify these points for me and keep up the fantastic videos.
Many thanks
Derek
It's always best to buy at least an Apple certified cable or adapter. There's no setting in the module that I am aware of.
I know this is an older comment but did you figure it out? I have the same kit with the same midi cable but can't get it to work.
Cool, hoping our Alesis Turbo with USB B out connects to iPad with lead at 07:30 :)
it should!
i have the ipad pro m1. also getting the td-17 with bluetooth connectivity. could i connect to garageband via bluetooth and record the td 17 sounds through the audio input in garageband
No. Bluetooth is for playing sounds through the module.
Great vid fella. You mentioned that if you wanted to run ezdrummer 2 you’d have to upgrade to a Mac right? Meaning you couldn’t record on an iPad using ezdrummer sounds? Thanks. Great song and playing btw 😊🤘
No, EZ Drummer won't work on an iPad, but I highly recommend just giving the GarageBand kits a try before buying EZDrummer. Honestly, I think they sound better.
@@demonicsweaters oh ok awesome! That’s cool to hear you think they sound better. Thanks for the reply 😊
@@demonicsweaters hey man, sorry to bug ya with a question- I’m having trouble getting my hi hat to play properly on my Roland td9 while using the garageband kits. It won’t play in the closed position and plays open position no matter what I do. Do you have any suggestions? I’ve looked and looked and can’t seem to find an answer! You’re right though, these sound great! Thanks man
I find the drum kits in GB better than most drum modules.. not as good as Superior drummer or BFD,, but for free,, they sound great to me.
I honestly think they're better than Superior Drummer 3. I wasted so much money on that and never use it.
You could actually bypass the interface and just buy a cable with the old DIN midi in/out and USB male on the other end. I've got both.
Will that work with Roland TD6 ?
I’ve seen on Amazon Roland midi interface usb cable
@@garyszumlanski8363 Yes, I've had one of those modules and it works, I still have the midi /interface cable. Works same as USB.
Will gb grab the midi notes from my pearl mimic though the 1/8 inch audio port on the iPad? Or does it only do that with the lightning conversion
No, you need a lightning USB or midi cable, or Bluetooth MIDI (not sure if the mimic has that or not)
Very enlightening for us older not as computer savvy drummers.
Will Android pads work or is Ipad the way to go?
Unfortunately, no. As much as I love my galaxy phone, Android isn't so great for pro audio. Plus GarageBand is Apple only.
Also, Android is very latency heavy.
Can you change que mapping on the app?
Because I plugged muy electric drums and… toms sounds like crash, crash sounds like toms and the snare doesn’t make any sound
Do you know how to fix that?
not in garageband, no. You need to change it on your drum module.
I am having trouble installing GB on my ipad because of the IOs version. Is there any app that you recommend?
There is Cubasis, which is an excellent DAW for iPad and it should work on older versions.
I have an Alesis turbo, I can't change the hi-hat variation from open to closed, everything is in open hi-hat. Do you know if I can change the module grade in any software?
I'm not sure, I've never used a Turbo
Hi Justin.. um I don't do iPad, I'm an android user. So my question is, can you do a video for Samsung android note pad or book please? And what works with it, such as ez drummer, daw etc, thank you so much!
Thanks for the comment, but sadly there’s not much for android and edrums. Android’s audio/midi system, well quite frankly sucks. There’s a couple beat making DAWs and a few multitrack apps, but nothing nearly as robust as what is available for iOS. I do have an old Samsung tablet, maybe I can see if I can find something worth using, but it’s unlikely you’ll be able to control drums in real-time via midi on Android. It’s just the design of Android at its core is not ideal for audio.
Hello Thanks for all your vids.
Planning to change my IPad Air .. do you need more than the first ipad for running Garage Band and doing vidéo recording ?
Or should i go for an IPad Air ?
Thx
I have the basic ipad, newest generation and it works great!
@@demonicsweaters thx a lot .
Is there a way to audio / video record with an IPad connected to a TD17 Roland plz ?
Great vid. Strangely, when I set up my ipad with my TD17, it's not receiving any midi input from my module. Did I miss out something?
Curious if your problem was solved ,,,, have the same issue
@@robb7565 it could be the version of ipad. Lately when I used ipad air 2022, it works fine.
Hey man thanks but I was worried about having to use or download a driver to do this with my Roland 506 v drums ( which uses the td-27). I just ordered the cord that goes from module to iPad but will it work without a Roland driver ?
iPads don’t use drivers, but maybe there’s an app of some sort?
I would just plug it in and see, it should work.
Do you know of the issue with no sound from closed hi-hats on the Alesis Crimson 2 (and similar models) when used with Garage Band, and how to fix it? Been looking for a fix. Haven't found it yet! Initially I wasn't getting anything from the hi-hats, but changed the midi notes and got the open hi-hats to work as well as the hi-hat pedal, but nothing on closed hi-hats.
still has to be some kind of midi note issue. Are you trying changing the note with pedal depressed?
I’ve tried that. Problem is, when I play the hi hats while closed, the trigger for that position is the same as open. Although when I play them closed, I hear nothing (while the pedal is down). If I change the midi note while the pedal is down and I’ve struck the hi hats, it changes the note for open hi hats. The only triggers I see for the hi hats are HIHAT and HH-P.
Hi. I've recently bought an Alesis Nitro Mesh. I've been practicing for a few weeks with Melodics app but now I want to play along with my favorite songs and potentially play something live when my friends are around, but I haven't found any app that could help me. I've seen Garageband on IPad but it's more for recording and listening to later, I want an app that allows me to load a drum-less audio file and then let me play along the drum part while it's outputting the result live. I was wondering if you have any suggestions
Not really anything the way you are describing. Most people just play along to Spotify, UA-cam, or Apple Music and record themselves.
I use moises
What did you buy to connect the nitro mesh and ipad pls?
I'd like to use my older MacBook 2012 as a dedicated platform but it seems Garage Band won't work with the older OS
Old versions of GarageBand will work fine! I even run it on a PowerBook from 2004! Check out the Macintosh Garden macintoshgarden.org/about
2 issues I’m trying to figure out with my Roland TD1K… how do I record performing a drum cover to music in garage band - i seem to only be able to record the midi notes. Also how do I record video using the iPad or laptop. Using Mac
You can't record in GB and video at the same time on the same device. In order to record audio, you need an audio input into your iPad and select audio recorder as your track input.
if you dont want to record midi (I dont know why you wouldn't) just send the Main out from your brain as an audio input into garage band. but then you'll have an audio wave and cant use the drum sets in garage band
If only GarageBand offers multiple time signatures in a composition and assignable/savable MIDI…
This, as well as being able to see all tracks simultaneously, is why I’m strongly considering Logic Pro and using my laptop.
Cubasis runs on ipad and does all of the above!
I went LPX some years back, from cubase and havent missed a beat. for 300 bucks its really an amazing piece of software. especially if youre running an M1 machine. if youre finding garage band limiting its because it is.
@@flipnap2112 just happen to be running an M1 notebook.
Are there other ways to here myself with the interface, other than plugging in the ipad headphone jack?
If you had a USB audio interface that is compatable with iPad, then you can use that.
@@demonicsweaters ok thanks
Question, can garageband be used like something similar to Superior Drummer 3? as in use the ipad to play REAL drum sounds with your edrum.
I have an Ipad Pro M1 and a Roland VAD506.
Thanks
Yes you can, thought it's more limited than SD3, but has great drum sounds.
@@demonicsweaters What is the program? or programs?
@@chicharones9640 Garageband
How did you muffle the toms in the Vintage Kit, wen I play it the toms have a lot of ring?
I didn’t change anything
@@demonicsweaters Sorry I had the wrong kit!
You mentioned using EZ Drummer on your IPad but as far as I know you cant run EZ drummer through an Ipad, only an actual computer. Is that accurate? My electric drum set is in my basement so having to lug my IMac down there every time I want to use EZD is quite annoying. I may just need to get a laptop unless theres something I dont know? Thanks!
No I never mention using EZDrummer on iPad. It will not run. I said GarageBand, which runs amazing!
@@demonicsweaters OH ok great that actually makes more sense, thanks for the reply!!
We all know why you're really taking your computer to the basement Scotty! 😂
So I discovered that my iPad 6th generation only comes with a skeletal of garage band. Do u concur or is there some way I can upload the full version of garage band. Probably time to get a new iPad right?
Yeah, new iPad is probably the only way to go. Apple isn’t one for supporting old hardware unfortunately
@@demonicsweaters ok thanks would u still recommend a 9th generation
Wow....would this work running an ad5 with ezdrummer 3???
Well, EZ3 won't run on iPad, but everything else yes.
I have a iPad 8th generation and I bought a lightning cable to USB -B and I can't the garage band drum sounds to sound on my electric drum set. I have the DONNER DED-200 SET.
are you running from the headphone out back to the aux in on the module?
@@demonicsweaters yes I tried both aux input and headphone output.
I get sound through my amp when I touch the screen on iPad.
The drum kit sound does not register to the actual snare or toms etc....
@@jacr6521 then it appears to be a midi connection issue. Check your cables, ports, etc...
what about bigger kits? is it possible to map more cymbals and tons inside garageband?
nope, what you see is what you get
@@demonicsweaters shame... I'm actually baffled, since apparently there's no other solution on ipad, paid or not, that's more robust than garageband.
@@AdrielOliveiraGuitar Cubasis! I have been using it now and it's incredible. I'll try to make a vid on it soon!
Can you do the same with like 2 nd generation?
I’m not sure, you could try, but they may not offer garage band on an iPad that old
How did you get everything mapped?
you really don't have to do much with most e-kits. If you do need to change a mapping, you need to adjust the midi note within your drum module.
My drums Yamaha DTXplorer can't be remapped on an iPad, but on a PC it's easy. So it doesn't fit.
You can’t change the MIDI note in the DTXplorer module?
Why is no one making ezdrummer like software for the iPad? Remember the dmdock? It’s so sad that didn’t make it.
Good question
@@demonicsweaters I wonder what it would take to produce something like this? A basic vst with say a limited number of kits but very high quality multi layer sample set. The dmdock was such a wasted opportunity .
How can I connect a Roland td 25 module to a iPad Pro? The iPad has only 1 usb c
You should get a usc c hub and a usb headphone adapter. I really hate that Apple ditched the lightning and headphone jacks on the normal iPad now too. It basically made the iPad a much less versatile and useful device.
So i connect both the drum module usb b to this hub and also headphones to it?
Thanks for this vid! I’ve tried hooking my ekit up to my iPhone 13 pro with GarageBand using a USB hub and using a good interface but I’m getting bad latency when tracking. Any tips? I am using a 16 foot USB 2.0 from the kit to the hub however. Not sure if that matters. Thanks !
the length of the cable may actually be causing some of that, as weird as it seems. I would try a shorter one and see if it helps. Usually iOS devices have great latency. Also, try switching out the hub if that doesn't work.
@@demonicsweaters Yeah I had suspicions that the cable length might cause that. I’ll have to rearrange my set up and use a shorted cable.
Thank you for videos! Does anybody here know the iPad game that supports electric drum? I am searching for a game that can make my kids to think play drum is same as playing video game.
Melodics! It's really great, worth the subscription! There's an iPad version as well melodics.com/
@@demonicsweaters Thank you!
Which iPad do you have? Is an average one good enough?
9th gen regular iPad. The 10th gen got rid of all the ports which makes it useless.
@@demonicsweaters iv seen an iPad on FB market place for a good price, it's an iPad pro 9.7-inch how do I know what generation this is please?
Seems pretty old 2016, I'm crap with tech dude your help would be much appreciated 👍
I have a dream: macOS software become compatible with iPadOS M1 devices, so I can use my eDrum with EZ Drummer 2 & Superior Drummer 3 running on my iPad.
I wouldn't hold your breath on that one, haha.
@@demonicsweaters agreed, but lemme dream about it, please. =( hahaha
That copy of irig input jack isn't worth it. Inconsistent Audio and Humm have to mess with the input or get anoth trrs connection to make it work. Bought one sent it back got replacement. Still sucked. Eventually a friend let me use his real irig connection jack and let me have it. No problems at all with that one.
So just spend the money or get used real Irig. Get the Irig2 for best results actually. That's what I got, also ipad 9th gen can't go wrong. Get new preferably used in good condition if you have to. An audio interface the PreSonus AudioBox iTwo 2x2 USB/iPad Audio Interface works great. Plug in directly to iphone and ipad with regular lighting to USB cable and the other USB cable is to power it on with AC plug/USB laptop i use it with a big USB battery pack phone charger. 10,000ma (milliamps)
I never had a single issue with mine
My cable flat out did nothing. Wondering if iPad mini 2 is too old
Hmm I think it should still work. Maybe try a different cable
@@demonicsweaters for anyone who might had this issue:
My mistake was plugging an aux from the iPad back into the drum module (that's connected to my drum amp) you will cancel out the garagband kits. Aux has to go straight to whatever speaker system you are using
@@HDtenor1 glad you figured it out!
@@HDtenor1 Aux? You mean the Stereo signal?
@@noreeeeply no. Once you plug in the iPad to the module, sounds comes straight out of the iPad. So headphones work fine. But you can't aux from the iPad back to the module and then out through your stereo cables. Have to aux straight from iPad to a speaker to get the GB drum samples through a loud speaker
if anyone can swing a few extra hundred for an iMac mini M1, the baseline is like 600 something and it works great. then you could run slate drums, or addictive etc.
Good sounds! Good drumming! I thought you were gonna suck. Lol.
For $100 more you can get a Mac mini m2 and future proof yourself for any other add one you want to make.
hello can i ask a question?
my module is td17 can i directly connect my iphone through td17 midi--> usb to lightning
@@egemenata67 Yes, it should work. Though Rolands sometimes can be picky with their drivers. Some of the older Roland modules had issues with this, but I would imagine a TD17 should work.
@@demonicsweaters if i open camera then click record it will work?
@@demonicsweaters do you have instagram or whatsapp? can i ask detail
@@egemenata67 I'm actually not sure about that. You'll have to try and see.
Can you get a cheaper iPad to use?
yeah, you could find a used one, or one a couple generations older.
Gen 3?
It works for 1 minute then you have to plug out and plug in the lightning cable again. On synthesizers no problem, but with e drums i cant get to the root of the problem. I guess its just too old