Catching Ocean Salmon in our "Tillamook" Dory
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2020
- The weather was perfect, the sea was flat, and the Fall Chinook Salmon run was under way. We had to go fishing.We launched in Tillamook Bay just before noon, just after the turn of the tide from ebb to flood had smoothed the bar and eliminated small-boat restrictions. We crossed the bar inbound hours later, just before the flood changed to ebb and made the bar too rough for boats such as ours.The bay was crowded, but we had the ocean to ourselves. We saw only two other boats the entire afternoon. And we caught fish.
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Felt like I was in the boat.I enjoyed myself.
Thanks for coming along, Mark.
I really appreciate your videos! Love the fact that you don't have any background music blasting away. Thanks for taking me along.
I figure that if folks want music, they can turn on their radios to play along.
Agreed, so many videos are ruined because of stupid UA-cam music… this is an example of a perfect video
@@davehanna1557 Thanks, Dave. I generally hate added music. Exceptions are the music added to Salt and Tar videos and the music Stuart Davies uses in his painting videos.
Every video in / on your boat I can't help but marvel at the craftmanship and engineering you've put into it. Kudos to you good sir ! Keep on; catching em' up. Thank you for the "real" videos.
Thanks, Mike.
You two have a lot of fun together.
Yes we do. Nereida is my favorite hunting and fishing partner.
Was watching the left hand level wind in action and was thinking it would be very awkward.
Those Shakespeare ugly stick Rods are some of the best value rods available. Did you know they have a life time warranty that they actually honour. Not only that I had them custom make a few rods for some special setups I was using.
I’ve had dozens of different brands of rods over the years, but if I’m setting up gear for communal use, those ugly sticks are fantastic.
These modern inexpensive rods are very useable, and I don’t cry when guests damage them.
Nice fishing boat !
We stopped at a sporting goods store on the way home from a previous salmon trip during which I broke a rod. Bought Ugly Sticks for both of us. Didn't know about the lifetime warranty, but I doubt we'll ever have to use it.
Beautiful Dory!! You must really enjoy it!
We do. We get many questions and compliments wherever we go with it.
Good day!
It was. Every day on the water is a good day.
Her personality is so adorable.
And she loves hunting and fishing!
This is exciting, different from the others.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. If I had two more hands, I might be able to better manage the boat, the fishing gear, and the cameras.
Great video. Thanks for posting
Spring Chinook season has just begun. We hope to get out on the ocean soon. With cameras, of course.
Good video fun to watch you two keep having fun thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. We'll go out again in a few days and drop a couple of crab pots on our way out.
Great post! Nice to have good crew!!
Yes it is. My wife is more enthusiastic about fishing than I am, I think.
Thanks for the adventure loved your video 🙏
That was the first fishing video I made. I hope to to more this summer.
Great video. Awesome catches. Love your commentary! Makes for an awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it. Spring Chinook are trickling in now. We'll be out again when when cold weather passes.
Good Video 📹 👍 👌 👏
Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed watching. “It spends most of its life on my desk as a letter opener. I think it’s happier cutting fish.” Not sure why that spoke to me but that turn of phrase makes good gravy. You have a good day, sir.
Glad you enjoyed it, and things for the kind words.
A really nice day out. I am a Lake Ontario salmon fisherman, and it is great to see you west coasters go after the king's too.
We should get out more often in season, but we're getting old enough that excuses to stay inside and comfortable, especially in winter, are easier to come by.
Are your salmon landlocked, or to they migrate up from the Atlantic?
@@OregonOldTimer Since the 1970s or 80s west coast salmon stock were introduced into the Great Lakes. We have generations of chinook and coho. The historic naturally occurring Atlantic salmon almost disappeared but are being reintroduced.
Never got to build my own boat, but I did restore four wooden boats back in the '70's. Great job on your boat.
Thank you.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it.
Your doing a good job
Thank you.
i lived in lincon city and tillimook most of my life..(.i owned the top of echo mountain in rose lodge) you have brought back memories of my youth thank you...(i have plans for the anaconda)...you remind me of where i came from,and where i hope to be soon....once again thank you
I first came to the Oregon coast more than 50 years ago, and it took me a long time to get back. It was worth the wait.
Great catch and Vid ///like Mark said felt like i was in boat too!!!!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. We haven't been out yet this year. Too much other stuff demanding our attention, but fall Chinook are coming in, so that "other stuff" is going to have to wait..
Hey Ole timer! Longview Wa here. Love your channel! I'll be starting my own Columbia River dory this year!
I haven't had mine in the Columbia yet, but one of these days...
I'm way late watching this video..I have a bunch of things on my bucket list..Building a similar style boat .The whole thing was just beautiful...great job!
Better now than later, just in case there isn't any 'later'.
I'm in the research/planning stages of building this or a similar design, and since I'll be fishing/crabbing it on the Siuslaw, Yaquina and Umpqua, I've been looking for info on whether such a boat can safely fish The Big Blue ... and you answered the question! Flat, sunny days, the right tides, and serious consideration of which bars are best to cross for smaller craft are all a must, of course (safety first!) but it's clear to see that it can be done. Thanks.
I'd be comfortable in rougher water but my wife would not. It's not fun if it's not fun for both of us, so I don't push it.
Nice video. Your big green Plano tackle box, I have the same one. My dad bought it in the 70's I believe. I still use it for my salt water gear. I think of him every time I go out. I fish mostly in the San Juans in WA.
That tackle box at 11:27 was given to me by a friend about 30 years ago. It had belonged to her father.
My earliest salmon fishing was 40 years ago in the Strait of Juan de Fuca when I lived in and around Port Angeles.
@@OregonOldTimer yeah I started as a teen in the late 60's with my dad. He bought the big tackle box when he started running the first big chrome rotating flashers, braided line on a big Penn reel, surgical tubing snubber, and cannon ball weight. Basically a precursor to today's downriggers. He needed the big box to hold all that gear. We did fish Pillar Point a few times.
Nice fish
Yes, thanks. Tasty, too. We alternate with venison to make both last a while.
Your boat work is incredible and this was too. In the midst of building a Spira Wye River Garvey Dory myself.
Glad you like the videos.
Wesley Willard how I the boat building coming along I wanted to build the same from Jeff's plans got any videos or pics
Enjoyable to watch some old school salmon fishing, like my Dad and I used to do on Puget's Sound, back in the 1960's.
We didn't have GPS, sonar, or downriggers.
We got out only once this summer. Sometimes I wish we lived closer to salt water.
I truly enjoyed the entire video! Wish we were neighbors!
Glad you liked it. Wish I had time to get out on the water more often.
Nice
Thanks.
Great stuff! Turn the rod over and use your right hand to reel next time!!! That cut plugging is quite an art! I use a herring harness.Good fun and good eating! Cheers from Westcoast Canada! P.S. I now remember your vid. on building that wooden Boat! More good fun!
But then I'd have to crank backwards.
That launch a nd ramp are very familiar to me. That's exactly ẅhere I fished from for over 20 years!
Where are you now?
Looks like you got several meals out of that trip!
We did. Ate the last of it a couple of weeks ago.No more venison, either. When weather improves, we'll get back out on the salt to replenish the larder.
Great videos! I live abit down south of you. Keep the videos coming! Save the guts for crab bait. Grill the backstops and pick out that extra meat.
Thank you.
good to see you built that beautiful boat & looks like you've been using it congrats on the big Chinook i thought was a coho?
Nope. Chinook.
Like your boat so much that I ordered a set of plans. Did you make any modifications to the hull other than the danger board? Or did you build it as designed? Thanks
Daggerboard was not part of the build. I added that later. I built it to plan with two exceptions: The modification to Frame One. And I did not fiberglass the sides.
The free .pdf book "Dory Story" has more detail than the videos. It's available through www.ericrush.com
Im not familiar with the type of fishing you are doing, so is the method why you added the dagger board or is it purely to aid stability and handling? I’m building one too, got a few frames done, going to use it for commercial trotlining. I just heard Mr. Spira passed away sometime ago, what a shame, he was very helpful to me when choosing this plan, wish I had gotten mine built while he was alive.
I added the daggerboard to improve directional control at dead slow in congested marinas. It also keeps the flat-bottom boat from blowing sideways and running over the leeward lines when motor mooching (dead slow trolling).
I thought a person could only keep one chinook..? Awesome day of fishing.
Limits vary from year to year, from season to season, and sometimes with seasons.
I was wondering how the boat handles the ocean it appeared to do well at low speed but what do you have for an outboard? What kind of speed do you get with it, thank you.
Outboard is 20HP Honda 4-stroke. That's about minimum for the boat. The kicker is a 5HP 2-stroke and trolls no slower than the Honda at idle. I never use it, but I keep it on there in case the Honda dies. Not likely, but...
We seldom run full speed, but it's near 20mph. It ran faster before I added the kicker motor.
The wound's cause: Occam's Razor would suggest it was a bigger fish ...?
I poked around your website some and see you are going to be very familiar with using operating checklists. Tried creating boating checklists yet Captain? I yelled at you to check the dagger-keel as loud as I could but I don't think you could hear me ;)
Lots of folks who know more than I about such things think it's lamprey eels that cause those bite marks.
The only written checklist I have for the dory is a note next to the wallet with my fishing license: Fish Finder
I keep the Humminbird in the basement where a dehumidifier runs all the time and the air is dry. Can't count the times I've forgotten to take it with us.
The wound was caused most likely from a lamprey eel. They are natural ocean predators of salmon and trout. The King Salmon is able to survive the attack in most cases because of its scales. The lake trout is not able to survive. The steelhead salmon, a true ocean trout suffers some from the lamprey but does all right. Fresh water lake trout are totally vulnerable as the trout has such tiny scales as to make it functionally unarmored. The lamprey eel made its way into the Great Lakes and nearly destroyed the trout population. Huge and continued efforts to attack the lamprey in its breeding grounds continues to this day. The greatest success in controlling it though was in the introduction of King and Coho (Silver) salmon into the Great Lakes. These efforts started in the early 70's and have saved not only the trout but brought under control the alewives that once were eaten by the trout, which in the absence of the trout bred out of control. The wound I saw on your 23 pounder (beautiful) was superficial, would have had no impact on the over all health of the fish, and would not have effected the meat quality. Lovely video and catch. FYI I spent 20 years in the commercial fishing industry as a buyer of fish and seafood worldwide. I have seen those wounds many, many, many times.
Thanks for that information, Bruce. Never too old to learn something new.
Very nice! What do you think about the boat? The interior space is enough, and you like how it rides?
Flat bottoms make sitting forward uncomfortable at speed in chop and make directional control at low speed in wind tricky, small penalties offset by ease of construction. The boat feels stable in rough water. We love it.
how is the dagger board "through-way"
sealed?
It isn't. Daggerboard trunk top is above the waterline.
Great video! How deep were you trolling when you caught the fish?
We were in 90-100 feet of water with, I think, 70 feet of line out on one rod and 90 on the other. I don't know how deep the weights and herring were actually running. I frequently put the motor in idle and wait until lines are nearly vertical before putting it in gear again.
What is the significance of the first fish as being "black on both sides of the teeth"? Congratz on the second one being so big! I like the chest mount, even though sometimes it's obstructed because it really gives a feeling of 1st person POV.
Chinook--AKA King or Blackmouth--salmon identification. Chinook were legal at that time; Coho were not.
How much does your boat weigh, and how does the 20 horse motor move it?
I don't know what it weighs. 20hp is about minimum for tiller steering, I think. Before adding the kicker motor, with two people, we got a max of around 20mph, if memory is correct. Big 'if' though. Max speed as it is now is in the high 'teens, which is as fast as I care to go.
Does the boat plane well with 20 horsepower? I also have s 20 horsepower outboard and am considering building the Spira Tillamook.
I think 20hp is as low as you'd want to go. I added a Whale Tail to my outboard to help it get onto plane. More power and a center console would make a huge difference. With tiller steering, it's hard to get enough weight forward for balance. The flat bottom pounds in chop, and nobody wants to sit forward.
@OregonOldTimer Thank you for the information. Love the boating/fishing/crabbing vids.
Do the pacific salmon taste as good as the Atlantic?
The only Atlantic salmon I have access to is farmed, so I've never tried it.
Never seen a Chinook shed scales like that. Me thinks it was a Coho
It definitely was not a Coho, Derek.
Hi! What engine do you use?
20 hp Honda 4-stroke short shaft.
@@OregonOldTimer thank you so much, God bless you!
Why do you have to document the catch for our local spots we have limits but no document for it not a bad idea to help our waters aisan carp did a number on our lakes and rivers here in the midwest
Great shots of the rod and reel. But no shots of the fish. Poor camera work!
I have two hands for the rod and reel, none for the camera. I do the best I can with what I have.
I have scrapped some otherwise interesting videos because of poor camera work, but I won't let perfection be the enemy of good.
This and the crabbing videos are among the most popular on my channel month after month, so I guess imperfect camera work isn't always fatal.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
I DONT KNOW WHY IT TAKES YOU SO LONG TO BRING IN THE FISH. YOU COULD OF LOST BOTH OF THEM.
After you break a few lines and rods, you learn. At least, I do.
PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND IN FRONT OF THE REEL.
Hi Mr. Rush, ( Oregon Old Timer )
Hope you and your family are well at this time. I have watched your video build of this beautiful Tillamook a few times now. The main reason for my comment at this time is that I have recently heard of Mr. Spira's sudden passing and the shut down of his boat plan website. R.I.P to Mr. Spira.
Like most old customers of his, I too have waited too long to get a few more of his boat plans that I had intended to build. I have found the only way for me to get a few of his old plans is to get in touch with some of his old customers and hope that they still have the pdf copy. Since finances are a little tight for me at this time, I was hoping that you would be willing to trade a pdf copy of your 17ft Tillamook for my pdf copy of the 18ft Carolinian Dory? If you are willing, you can add g mail to my handle and I will send my copy as an attachment to you. Thanks and may you and yours have a blessed Christmas Holiday.
Sincerely ,
Therold Fenty
Happy Birthday, Therold.
@@OregonOldTimer Thanks Brother. Hope all is well on your side of the World. You could have used messenger, is easier to reply to. Until next time, many Blessings to you and your Family Brother Rush.