The most incredible part of this discovery is that there is a person/group of people who coded this, and knew about it the past 20 years, and kept it a secret this entire time.
hardcore modders have known about it for years. As usual; no credits or such were given or explained heh Well to clarify, the best estimate on the mechanic is that it illustrates 7 symbols. "D-E-M" then a demon symbol, followed by "R-P-S". It's suspected this is to shoutout some of the Blizzard North team: David Brevik (Founder) Erich Schaefer (Founder) Max Schaefer (Founder) Demon Symbol - Signifies the end of the 3 founders Richard Seis (Programmer) Phil Shenk (Art Director) Stieg Hedlund (Designer) Source: D2RModding
@@mitchellfriars8529 you are just too software to be associated with the people that knew you never even went to their forums - its you that denied you of the info
He sounds so excited to show us this easter egg. You can clearly hear how loud he is and the amount of dopamine is rushing through his body. Jokes aside, this is actually a very cool easter egg. Would never ever have found out.
@@whatthetech7647 ahh OK I was under the impression that all they updated was graphics and some different builds along with runewords and terror zones. I thought Llama said this was in the 1.07 patch back in the day. I'll have to some testing when I get some time.
@@whatthetech7647 Phrozen Keep modders looked at the compiled code, it's been in the game since 1.04 of original D2, before Lord of Destruction released.
You class act sir, I was skeptical too, and you listened. Not only is it awesome of you to say: "hey, I made a whoops" but then you made it right! Love it!
i personally find it ironic how many people are willing to accept the souls thing as real but he throws something else in there with the mf and all of the sudden many of those same people are convinced that it cant be true and llama is a liar lmao
This is beyond insane. That such an Easter Egg existed for 22 Years and we only found out about it recently. 1.07 started with LOD and LOD came out in 2001. Props to the users who found this out and were able to do it. Makes me wonder if the devs behind PD2 know about this Easter Egg.
If you're skeptical, yes, a d2 champion wants to risk his reputation all to play a little trick on you. He's been helpful up until now, but he's just been waiting to toy with you.
No way, he's definitely trying to use this as propaganda to show that Diablo 2 is still new and exciting and that Diablo 4 needs to learn a lesson and convert itself into the Diablo 2 sequel it was supposed to be!
So this is really beneficial for builds that stack a lot of damage/Survivability and little MF. You go through this ritual and voila you have the best of all worlds
Ok now we need to test the ultimate secret easter egg theories, what if you activate the perfect chat gem, get the souls to spell the letters, then go do something with the Stained glass things, I dont know maybe also clear the cow level or something, maybe then it gives us the way to know which way is the summoner XD maybe theres something more to this we didnt discover yet and that is so crazy to think about.
This could have some actually useful applications on targeting MF for Stone of Jordan. Full clear, Act 5-Act 1 backwards, to try and push as many unique rings as possible in one game - by the time you get to act 1, if manald and nagel have dropped in the game, the only unique left in the pool for that qlvl is the stone.
I have no idea what this means, having a nagel drop does not eliminate it from the drop pool you'll just end up with 40 unique rings 37 being manald 3 being nagels?
@@Lones555 In a single game, once a unique drops, it can't drop again. Because of this, you can take advantage of this to narrow down the pool of Not-SOJ rings. You can also do the same with gambling - keep a single game open, with a gambling character, feed it gold from other characters over and over, and you WILL pull the targeted unique eventually. The key is that it has to be in A SINGLE GAME.
@@andrewspencer7804 what happens once every unique ring that could drop has? like what if by the time u get there u alrdy found all of that qlvl what happens then? what drops when the game tells it to be unique ring?
@@danielfreer8487 Standard fallback; if the game attempts to generate a unique that doesn't exist (already dropped, or simply no option), it'll generate a rare item instead - normally this would be triple durability, but in this case, no durability either, so it'd just appear as a standard rare ring. As an aside, this means the ACTUAL rarest item in the game is a qlvl >= 87 triple durability ethereal Sacred Armor. Good luck on that one for a holy grail.
@@andrewspencer7804 makes sense. so ur only gonna find 1 soj per game doing that and each game will likely take a long ass time so yeah, not that op anyways but still nifty
If this easter egg has been existing since pre-Expansion, someone should try it in 1.07 and 1.08. Diminishing return was only introduced in patch 1.09, so having infinite MF in earlier patches would be a huge game changer: rare and unique drops from every mob.
you would propably have so much MF that you only get blues and no other drops when there is no cap, because the chance you get a blue will be so high that rare and unique drops should not be possible anymore.
@@Vittrich The game engine picks rarity in order, starting from Unique, then going down. So the game performs a RNG check for unique; if it's not unique, it checks for set; if not set, it checks for rare, and so on. Without diminishing returns set on top of magic find, the RNG check for unique would often result in a success, skipping the need to go down the list.
I would love to see a consistent setup for the Easter egg. It's really cool, and has potential to boost Mf for a full game run, which sounds super cool. But in Hell, I find the Burning Souls deal way too much damage to my characters to risk letting them shoot me until they sync up.
Since so much MF is gained from the trick, you probably would be fine with having a hammerdin throw 20 points into resist lightning for the 20% max lightning resist and run a Ground runeword helmet for the duration of the trick. With a perf 20% roll, you're taking 60% of 5% damage, for an effective 3% damage taken. Add in Wisp Protector rings during the setup and hit the cap of 40% absorb so you are taking 1% of the original damage.
I kind of like that Easter egg - I know people work hard to get MF on there characters and it can come at a great sacrifice to other important things like resistance, but I've definitely gotten stuck where my character needs one of a few uniques to move on and running Meph endlessly can get pretty old...
I would expect this was a playtesting tool built into the game. As it’s not in the text files, the devs didn’t expect players to discover it. And we didn’t. For 20 years. Most games include development tools for testing. Sacred 2 had an area out of bounds that tested the item drop mechanic of quests. Every 7 quests dropped an item. Which could include any tier of item. If you could get a character out of bounds, you could navigate to the quest test area. Someone figured out he could get a character to perch on houses... which eventually morphed into him finding huge swaths of out of bounds areas... which contained the quest testing area. If I recall correctly, age of empires 1 had chat commands that could summon existing game units, and some Easter egg ones like rocket launchers. Some were for testing, and some were to amuse the devs.
why would the devs want to wait that long to stack up mf just to test when they have the tools to just grant them that much mf through items with significantly less effort and significantly less time spent
@@tarrantwalter524 It’s a smug way to feel superior. These folks were geniuses. Look at what they did, and when they did it. They revolutionized fantasy games. Took turn based games and made them interactive. It was cutting edge stuff at the time. The idea of super rare loot. The better graphics (at the time). So many great ideas. And they rode the tiger of massive sales. That will swell you’re head. It came out at 1.07, so years after release. So they could cook in their success a bit.
@@tarrantwalter524 because this guy thinks he is onto something interesting with it being a "playtesting tool" - because he thinks that is and would be cool 8)
Let me guess, it doesnt last for 19 hours, it last for 18:12 .... If that's the case then the reason why its so long is probably because buff timer only have 2 bytes worth of time, and it lowers the time by 1 every second, and the max value 2 bytes can be is 65,535 which roughly translate to , in hours that's 18 hours and 12 minutes, give or take a few seconds
I had a older friend one ladder named Kel who used to full clear the game on their zon.. i wonder if they utilized this cause i never understood how they found things that they gave to me all the time. Gosh it was so long ago. I hope you're doing well Kel!
Some test results: - Got letters on ladder hell souls - Went act 1 stony/cold plains, cleared with MF27. Result: 1 unique, 2 rares, some magics. Mostly damaged/eth/regular/superior whites. - Cleared normal cows with MF 27. Result: 0 uniques, 1 rare, some magics (cow king dropped 1). Mostly damaged/eth/regular/superior whites. Results currently not conclusive to say if it worked or not. Will have to do more runs. But for people who think that after this they will be showered with rares/uniques/sets - it won't happen.
There must be another poart to the equation; I've gone through a tone of healing pots and they're still not forming any letters. Closest I've gotten was them making a star with me in the middle.
Hey as I am playing pretty much Offline SSF right now I might have discovered something regarding this Easter Egg. I am 99% sure that it works in offline game even after "Save and Exit" the game. Severel times now I started over again and just for the funs started using this Easter Egg even in Normal. After switching to Nightmare the increased MF still exists. I didn't play around with a MODE with -%MF so no proof or something, but maybe worth testing.
It does a similar thing with 5 souls on the screen, drawing a star pattern. Not sure what kind of buff that gives. Maybe more exp? ua-cam.com/video/eG5tTpgmimw/v-deo.html
Thanks Llama for this! I tried it and after a while standing and moving a little bit the souls started to do the letters. It took a little time but worked. It was on nightmare dif. Then I cleared all the decent zones in the game and get some really good stuff. Thanks!!!
So last night I did this with 4 souls and definitely worked. I just got on tonight and accidentally killed the 4th soul . I proc'd confuse on the other 3 souls and all three went into the letters routine. I am pretty sure they were different letters
Going to town, then coming back after 4 were shooting me for a minute caused them to immediately perform the ritual once i entered back into Plains of Despair!!!
I went and reproduced this easter egg with my javazon with around 100mf, then went around clearing all lev 85 areas and all act bosses. Honestly it didn't feel like I had any MF bump at all. (online non-ladder). Maybe I just wasn't too lucky. Very cool find nonetheless!!
mf is not that useful. people greatly overestimate how useful mf is. the cap for effective mf is 250 for uniques. once you reach like 300-400ish mf (would have to double check the math, going off memory), youre sitting at around 230 effective mf towards uniques. its gonna take hundreds and thousands of mf after that to get any more effective mf
@@tarrantwalter524 your numbers are off. First of all, there is not a "cap" sins its a curve. And 300-400 mf, will not bring you 230 effective MF towards uniqes. The formula is (MF*250)/(MF+250), always rounded down. Example : 792mf translates to 190 effective MF towards uniqes, 810 -> 191, 828-> 192, etc. In perspective going from 700 to 800 mf, will increase your effective MF towards uniques with only 5%. I don't think mf is overrated. It's an amazing stat, but IF, and only IF, it doesn't slows your gameplay. The number 200-300 mf is mentioned alot, because most builds can reach that number, without sacrificing too much of their other gear and thus slowing their kill speed. With that been said - most players will not need crazy high MF, unless, their goal, is for example to collect every single unique item ingame (something called the "holly grail"), in which case your are trying to optimize every aspect of your build, to help find those one-in-a-million unique items. Keep in mind - while extremely rare, most of those items are not as usefull, so not alot of players are looking for them, brining us back to why most players don't need to overstack MF.
@@Eld1abl0n3gr0 I believe there is a weird interaction, where if you have too much mf some items have less chance to drop than if you would have fe. a 50 less mf. I believe I remember it from Andariel when I was farming for tal rasha's amulet.
Here's Take 2. Waiting for a Take 3 after people are still skeptical and asking for a specific setup to show numerical proof and or whatever else conditions.
for the ppl who didn't believe it, you just have to see how btdiablo works (how negative mf works) and it gives you shitty drop when you have negative mf, and if you think you will start dropping uniques likes crazy, it will also not happening, because diminishing return on high MF, basically your MF find for uniques will just be at 250ish number, while your "magic items" (blue) will shoot thru the roof and makes you almost always find blues, which is shown properly here too, proving that the easter egg does put you in very high MF.
This is Crazy cool. I just did it but already having 500+ MF I'm not sure how much it really helps. I wonder how long this has been in game and who the hell found it. Still another reason D2r is a top 5 forever game for me.
I was asking myself the same thing, but I think they did it pretty well. It's quite inconvenient to set it up. The time lost can be used to simply kill more monster / do more runs, so it is a bit balanced. Unless you happen to only have somehow very high LR, but no MF, then I guess this would be very useful.
I just did this on my Amazon in SoloPlay Hardcore on Nightmare-Diff. It took me quiet a while to get it going but after like 5mins perma-using pots they started the action. Now I will finish NM and gonna tell you if I can feel the MF. Atm I'm running like 30% MF - so should be quiet significant. HfgL u all
Hahaha, nice joke, but nah. Mf is only part of the equation. To drop an archon staff is not that often to begin with, and then there is still an RNG involved
3:34 Old School Diablo? ... Diablo 1 has items with negative modifiers. There's a thing called the Naked Sorc Run ... and there's a thing called the Beyond Naked Sorc Run where you would equip all the negative modifier equipment that you find.
He has -106 magic find and after the easter egg he starts getting blue, rare and even unique. It probably gave him 120-150 magic find buff or at least somewhere in the +30-50 mark. each letter is 20 points each. he did 7-8 letters, so he go 140-160 magic find boost.
Hey did u ever try to do with 5 burning souls...i took 5 by accident and the shape they did was a star (like the one diablo stands on). Mind testing that to see what it does?
Such a cool discovery. Just do this with your nova Sorc, singer barb or Bowszon (any character that naturally lacks MF) then farm the game , TZ, bosses, AL85’s and repeat. Gonna make the game very fun to play those type of builds and not be stuck on Blizzard Sorc and Hdin just to gear up the lesser played characters. I thinks it’s asome !
Hello mr Lama, I was wondering something. Since we found that secret after all these years. I know this sounds tough but do you think if you get a game with the other easter egg the stained glass and then lure them to near that? Do you think that might have some sort of interaction as well???
@@rainbowGZUS7 I play a shit load of games. Both good and bad. There are plenty of bad games that kill that average. Don't get me wrong I have over 4,000 hours in Destiny 2 so I'm also prone to replaying the same game forever. But Diablo 2 hasn't had new content in 2 decades. That's a rough grind to keep going back to.
I bet with cheat engine and looking at hex values on your magic find you can see it go up and down behind the scenes. The MF increase is being written somewhere I'm just not smart enough to find it behind the scenes but I bet a D2 fan with advanced cheatengine knowledge could find it.
Those ridiculous numbers like 19 hours are mostly determined by data types. Because D2 needed something like 8 MB of RAM, they needed to optimize each bit. Something trivial like MS Paint eats 10 times more than that nowadays just from the start with plain white canvas. That's why PMH lasts approximately 80 minutes and you can't see more than 32k life etc.
So this is bound to game and all players that join the server will also benefit from extra mf? Plus it's ~19h per game meaning a single session or until I close D2R game?
D2R needs a "Poorman" mode, where creating runewords would be disabled (you can still find runes and use them, but no runewords) and no uniques would drop... So basicaly rare items with some powerful runes or jewels would be best in slot... also maybe some sets would become more viable ? Also, base Teleport CD is 1 minute, to balance it outm for other classes, without enigma :) And make this another option when creating a character -> next to ladder, expansion and hardcore.
Is this in a OLD video? I found you at around d2r launch and never once have I seen any video talking about this? Also, way back when, did the devs tell the community about this easter egg? How could anyone accidentally find this? Lol
You would get nothing but blue items with negative MF or nothing if they could *not drop white items*. He was just running around clearing things getting rares/set/uniques to show the difference of literally nothing but white items before hand.
OK after testing it on my own. Yes it does actually work. It's a big PITA though. Probably worth it if you have the time. I'm sure this gets patched out next update.
I reproduced this yesterday on HC seasonal, it is 100% legit. btw the mod you play is interesting because Enigma already has everything included 100 mf which kinda breaks the game...
A really good dungeon crawler on the GBA (Shinning Soul II) had the same concepts. People would craft the "unlucky hood" to go into negative item find, but the game was anticipating players to have some item find on top of that so -1 actually took you to the top value instead. Very cool find, llama.
damn shame diminishing returns hit so hard or this would be worth it. i mustve stacked up to 5000%+ MF but wasn't really getting any more uniques than usual. thanks for the share either way, was fun to try once
I'm genuinely curious to see their modern ethics behind this do they patch it because its clearly good or do they keep it because its been in the game for decades
huh? the 4th one is d2's demon symbol (seen on health bars in terror zones too) / the demon symbol used all over other things as well. The first 3 are founders of the game and last 3 are the leads of the categories art/programming/design This stuff is like 15 years old lol you guys just learning about it? The fact that it gives mf is like 5-7 years old (knowing that it does) but characters say "thank you" at the end so people figured it was something forever
This is seriously great for end game, since the ghost spawn at act 4. But I can't seem to understand the meaning of beating the previous bosses and quests with it, since it last only until you beat the game. does that not mean that you have to do it all over again to have it? like, I do this trick, I beat diablo or mephisto and finish the game, then the bonus reset and can't be passed to other character, right? so what gives?
![[GUIDE] GAMBLING IN Diablo 2 Resurrected](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XMFpwZ2RnOA/mqdefault.jpg)
![[GUIDE] GAMBLING IN Diablo 2 Resurrected](/img/tr.png)
The most incredible part of this discovery is that there is a person/group of people who coded this, and knew about it the past 20 years, and kept it a secret this entire time.
Of course of all things it HAD to be souls.
hardcore modders have known about it for years. As usual; no credits or such were given or explained heh
Well to clarify, the best estimate on the mechanic is that it illustrates 7 symbols.
"D-E-M" then a demon symbol, followed by "R-P-S".
It's suspected this is to shoutout some of the Blizzard North team:
David Brevik (Founder)
Erich Schaefer (Founder)
Max Schaefer (Founder)
Demon Symbol - Signifies the end of the 3 founders
Richard Seis (Programmer)
Phil Shenk (Art Director)
Stieg Hedlund (Designer)
Source: D2RModding
During Exilecon 2019 the 3 developers stated that there are still unfounded easter eggs at that time.
@@GreatShinobilet me guess you know the cure for cancer but youre to hardcore to tell anyone.....
@@mitchellfriars8529 you are just too software to be associated with the people that knew you never even went to their forums - its you that denied you of the info
He sounds so excited to show us this easter egg. You can clearly hear how loud he is and the amount of dopamine is rushing through his body. Jokes aside, this is actually a very cool easter egg. Would never ever have found out.
He seems always happier with d2 but that understandable
@@EwigerPaul Nostalgia and passion
20 years later and still finding new stuff. That's how you make an awesome game. I love this game.
Well, it's not in the original, so it's not been 20 years, really
@@whatthetech7647 ahh OK I was under the impression that all they updated was graphics and some different builds along with runewords and terror zones. I thought Llama said this was in the 1.07 patch back in the day. I'll have to some testing when I get some time.
@@seang9450yeah he said 1.07 so you are correct
@@whatthetech7647 Phrozen Keep modders looked at the compiled code, it's been in the game since 1.04 of original D2, before Lord of Destruction released.
@@whatthetech7647It’s in Diablo 2, not just Diablo 2 Resurrected. So not 20 years, but more like 23 years
My guess is that the 19 hour time comes from 65536 seconds. Its the maximum number that can be achieved with 16 bits and its roughly 19 hours.
I like your theory, 65535 seconds is actually closer to 18 hours, but it does make a lot of sense for it to be that number.
@@Dylan-gy1hp You don't code, do you?
@@Dylan-gy1hp this guy doesn't unsigned int
@@Dylan-gy1hp Like I said, just guessing 😘
@@Dylan-gy1hp - never comment again.
You class act sir, I was skeptical too, and you listened. Not only is it awesome of you to say: "hey, I made a whoops" but then you made it right! Love it!
i personally find it ironic how many people are willing to accept the souls thing as real but he throws something else in there with the mf and all of the sudden many of those same people are convinced that it cant be true and llama is a liar lmao
20 years later and thousands of hours of gameplay, i'm still learning new things about this game, wow.
This is beyond insane. That such an Easter Egg existed for 22 Years and we only found out about it recently. 1.07 started with LOD and LOD came out in 2001. Props to the users who found this out and were able to do it. Makes me wonder if the devs behind PD2 know about this Easter Egg.
If you're skeptical, yes, a d2 champion wants to risk his reputation all to play a little trick on you. He's been helpful up until now, but he's just been waiting to toy with you.
Now Llama walks on the path of Diablo Inmortal. 😢😢😢
😂😂😂😂😂
I knew it
No way, he's definitely trying to use this as propaganda to show that Diablo 2 is still new and exciting and that Diablo 4 needs to learn a lesson and convert itself into the Diablo 2 sequel it was supposed to be!
@@TraxisOnTheLines anything after diablo 2 doesn't exist
thoughts?
So this is really beneficial for builds that stack a lot of damage/Survivability and little MF. You go through this ritual and voila you have the best of all worlds
Ok now we need to test the ultimate secret easter egg theories, what if you activate the perfect chat gem, get the souls to spell the letters, then go do something with the Stained glass things, I dont know maybe also clear the cow level or something, maybe then it gives us the way to know which way is the summoner XD maybe theres something more to this we didnt discover yet and that is so crazy to think about.
This could have some actually useful applications on targeting MF for Stone of Jordan. Full clear, Act 5-Act 1 backwards, to try and push as many unique rings as possible in one game - by the time you get to act 1, if manald and nagel have dropped in the game, the only unique left in the pool for that qlvl is the stone.
I have no idea what this means, having a nagel drop does not eliminate it from the drop pool you'll just end up with 40 unique rings 37 being manald 3 being nagels?
@@Lones555 In a single game, once a unique drops, it can't drop again. Because of this, you can take advantage of this to narrow down the pool of Not-SOJ rings.
You can also do the same with gambling - keep a single game open, with a gambling character, feed it gold from other characters over and over, and you WILL pull the targeted unique eventually.
The key is that it has to be in A SINGLE GAME.
@@andrewspencer7804 what happens once every unique ring that could drop has? like what if by the time u get there u alrdy found all of that qlvl what happens then? what drops when the game tells it to be unique ring?
@@danielfreer8487 Standard fallback; if the game attempts to generate a unique that doesn't exist (already dropped, or simply no option), it'll generate a rare item instead - normally this would be triple durability, but in this case, no durability either, so it'd just appear as a standard rare ring.
As an aside, this means the ACTUAL rarest item in the game is a qlvl >= 87 triple durability ethereal Sacred Armor.
Good luck on that one for a holy grail.
@@andrewspencer7804 makes sense. so ur only gonna find 1 soj per game doing that and each game will likely take a long ass time so yeah, not that op anyways but still nifty
If this easter egg has been existing since pre-Expansion, someone should try it in 1.07 and 1.08. Diminishing return was only introduced in patch 1.09, so having infinite MF in earlier patches would be a huge game changer: rare and unique drops from every mob.
you would propably have so much MF that you only get blues and no other drops when there is no cap, because the chance you get a blue will be so high that rare and unique drops should not be possible anymore.
@@Vittrich not if there is no diminishing return. This is why I suggest to try this feature in 1.07 or 1.08.
@vitti2801 it rolls for unique first, then set, then rare, then blue
@@Thegiggleofsteel This, you would only get uniques, sets, and few rares of left over unused bases (example: Shadow Bow)
@@Vittrich The game engine picks rarity in order, starting from Unique, then going down. So the game performs a RNG check for unique; if it's not unique, it checks for set; if not set, it checks for rare, and so on. Without diminishing returns set on top of magic find, the RNG check for unique would often result in a success, skipping the need to go down the list.
this is such an amazing find man. it's impressive how depth this game is.
And no one found the cow level in d4 yet :(
can someone tell me how to get the souls? i cleared all of plains of despair and nothing
I would love to see a consistent setup for the Easter egg.
It's really cool, and has potential to boost Mf for a full game run, which sounds super cool.
But in Hell, I find the Burning Souls deal way too much damage to my characters to risk letting them shoot me until they sync up.
only works in hell? or normal just fine?
Since so much MF is gained from the trick, you probably would be fine with having a hammerdin throw 20 points into resist lightning for the 20% max lightning resist and run a Ground runeword helmet for the duration of the trick. With a perf 20% roll, you're taking 60% of 5% damage, for an effective 3% damage taken. Add in Wisp Protector rings during the setup and hit the cap of 40% absorb so you are taking 1% of the original damage.
I mean, just swap gear and stack lightning res just for the time you do this, put on a Thundergods belt and everything and you should be fine.
try great marsh in act3
they don’t hurt much when you max your light res
This will Change Endgame Farming and Magic Find on Items and Charms so much for me on Single Player 🤯 Thx!!!
I kind of like that Easter egg - I know people work hard to get MF on there characters and it can come at a great sacrifice to other important things like resistance, but I've definitely gotten stuck where my character needs one of a few uniques to move on and running Meph endlessly can get pretty old...
Thank you for your videos, didnt play Diablo for like 18-19 years and with a sale on the switch I am back into it❤❤❤
Gotta be bitter sweet finding this. Can't help but wonder how and if this would have effected holy grails.
I would expect this was a playtesting tool built into the game. As it’s not in the text files, the devs didn’t expect players to discover it. And we didn’t. For 20 years.
Most games include development tools for testing. Sacred 2 had an area out of bounds that tested the item drop mechanic of quests. Every 7 quests dropped an item. Which could include any tier of item. If you could get a character out of bounds, you could navigate to the quest test area. Someone figured out he could get a character to perch on houses... which eventually morphed into him finding huge swaths of out of bounds areas... which contained the quest testing area.
If I recall correctly, age of empires 1 had chat commands that could summon existing game units, and some Easter egg ones like rocket launchers. Some were for testing, and some were to amuse the devs.
I spent the time since this came out looking in the text files for willowisps and found nothing besides a little in-joke calling them Will*OW*isps
why would the devs want to wait that long to stack up mf just to test when they have the tools to just grant them that much mf through items with significantly less effort and significantly less time spent
@@tarrantwalter524 It’s a smug way to feel superior. These folks were geniuses. Look at what they did, and when they did it. They revolutionized fantasy games. Took turn based games and made them interactive. It was cutting edge stuff at the time. The idea of super rare loot. The better graphics (at the time). So many great ideas. And they rode the tiger of massive sales. That will swell you’re head. It came out at 1.07, so years after release. So they could cook in their success a bit.
@@tarrantwalter524 because this guy thinks he is onto something interesting with it being a "playtesting tool" - because he thinks that is and would be cool 8)
@@redelfshotthefood8213 superior how? why? what the hell are you smoking lol
Let me guess, it doesnt last for 19 hours, it last for 18:12 ....
If that's the case then the reason why its so long is probably because buff timer only have 2 bytes worth of time, and it lowers the time by 1 every second, and the max value 2 bytes can be is 65,535 which roughly translate to , in hours that's 18 hours and 12 minutes, give or take a few seconds
My guess is it’s actually 18hours since that lines up with 2^16 seconds.
I had a older friend one ladder named Kel who used to full clear the game on their zon.. i wonder if they utilized this cause i never understood how they found things that they gave to me all the time. Gosh it was so long ago. I hope you're doing well Kel!
Some test results:
- Got letters on ladder hell souls
- Went act 1 stony/cold plains, cleared with MF27. Result: 1 unique, 2 rares, some magics. Mostly damaged/eth/regular/superior whites.
- Cleared normal cows with MF 27. Result: 0 uniques, 1 rare, some magics (cow king dropped 1). Mostly damaged/eth/regular/superior whites.
Results currently not conclusive to say if it worked or not. Will have to do more runs. But for people who think that after this they will be showered with rares/uniques/sets - it won't happen.
Would love to see this effect in a mod that greatly increases monster density! That would really highlight the change.
Neg magic find would be great for finding runeword bases
Good that i did a wind druid. 😅 Just cyclone armor spam until the letters are finished and then get the loot. 😂 Thanks for info !
There must be another poart to the equation; I've gone through a tone of healing pots and they're still not forming any letters. Closest I've gotten was them making a star with me in the middle.
It works with 3 4 5 souls and the spell different letters
Hey as I am playing pretty much Offline SSF right now I might have discovered something regarding this Easter Egg. I am 99% sure that it works in offline game even after "Save and Exit" the game. Severel times now I started over again and just for the funs started using this Easter Egg even in Normal. After switching to Nightmare the increased MF still exists. I didn't play around with a MODE with -%MF so no proof or something, but maybe worth testing.
It does a similar thing with 5 souls on the screen, drawing a star pattern. Not sure what kind of buff that gives. Maybe more exp? ua-cam.com/video/eG5tTpgmimw/v-deo.html
Any particular reason why you guess XP boost? Or just theorizing?
@@HanClinto just a super random guess lol just my hopes and dreams... probably just more mf
@@pk_lab just test it by using a normal level character at a consistent enemy until they take more than 1 kill to get any movement in xp
Thanks Llama for this! I tried it and after a while standing and moving a little bit the souls started to do the letters. It took a little time but worked. It was on nightmare dif. Then I cleared all the decent zones in the game and get some really good stuff. Thanks!!!
So last night I did this with 4 souls and definitely worked. I just got on tonight and accidentally killed the 4th soul . I proc'd confuse on the other 3 souls and all three went into the letters routine. I am pretty sure they were different letters
Maan, I never thought I could be taught something new in d2. Fun find.
Going to town, then coming back after 4 were shooting me for a minute caused them to immediately perform the ritual once i entered back into Plains of Despair!!!
I vaguely remember a friend had this happen to him around the beginning, we had no idea, and thought it was bugged. Then thought nothing of it.
videos are always 3 times longer than they need to be
I went and reproduced this easter egg with my javazon with around 100mf, then went around clearing all lev 85 areas and all act bosses. Honestly it didn't feel like I had any MF bump at all. (online non-ladder). Maybe I just wasn't too lucky. Very cool find nonetheless!!
Rng bro
mf is not that useful. people greatly overestimate how useful mf is. the cap for effective mf is 250 for uniques. once you reach like 300-400ish mf (would have to double check the math, going off memory), youre sitting at around 230 effective mf towards uniques. its gonna take hundreds and thousands of mf after that to get any more effective mf
@@tarrantwalter524 your numbers are off. First of all, there is not a "cap" sins its a curve. And 300-400 mf, will not bring you 230 effective MF towards uniqes. The formula is (MF*250)/(MF+250), always rounded down. Example : 792mf translates to 190 effective MF towards uniqes, 810 -> 191, 828-> 192, etc. In perspective going from 700 to 800 mf, will increase your effective MF towards uniques with only 5%.
I don't think mf is overrated. It's an amazing stat, but IF, and only IF, it doesn't slows your gameplay. The number 200-300 mf is mentioned alot, because most builds can reach that number, without sacrificing too much of their other gear and thus slowing their kill speed.
With that been said - most players will not need crazy high MF, unless, their goal, is for example to collect every single unique item ingame (something called the "holly grail"), in which case your are trying to optimize every aspect of your build, to help find those one-in-a-million unique items. Keep in mind - while extremely rare, most of those items are not as usefull, so not alot of players are looking for them, brining us back to why most players don't need to overstack MF.
@@Eld1abl0n3gr0 I believe there is a weird interaction, where if you have too much mf some items have less chance to drop than if you would have fe. a 50 less mf. I believe I remember it from Andariel when I was farming for tal rasha's amulet.
@@Eld1abl0n3gr0 There is a cap since (MF*250)/(MF+250) < 250 (just multiply and compare).
Here's Take 2. Waiting for a Take 3 after people are still skeptical and asking for a specific setup to show numerical proof and or whatever else conditions.
i want Project Diablo 2 mod in D2R
So this is how UA-camrs and streamers have been having crazy drops. Seems like something that the inside community has known about for awhile now.
Craziest thing in D2.
Hands down.
Ive been playing since 2003 and never knew this. Just nutso.
Thanks Mr. Llama. :)
Because NOONE knew this exept developers until now...
He should use a tin foil hat to made this video
If this test is the proof… which obviously it appears to be, how long does the magic find bonus last. Are you going to run THAT test with this mod?
16bit limit in seconds is around 18 to 19 hours so it makes sense
just a though 66,666 seconds = 18.518333 hours
would love to see a video in which you clear the entire game. Every. single. mob.
That's rather... easy ? Casual ? Not ... that ... interesting ?
@@Winnetou17 not so easy for a serial skipper...
@@JosephMagicFlower LoL
Terror Zones with this buff should be nuts.
This makes me think we need to revisit the chat gem
for the ppl who didn't believe it, you just have to see how btdiablo works (how negative mf works) and it gives you shitty drop when you have negative mf, and if you think you will start dropping uniques likes crazy, it will also not happening, because diminishing return on high MF, basically your MF find for uniques will just be at 250ish number, while your "magic items" (blue) will shoot thru the roof and makes you almost always find blues, which is shown properly here too, proving that the easter egg does put you in very high MF.
the mod that btneanderthal made?
@@BMPK yes this is the mod
@@johant73 he sure has come a long way since pod
This is Crazy cool. I just did it but already having 500+ MF I'm not sure how much it really helps. I wonder how long this has been in game and who the hell found it. Still another reason D2r is a top 5 forever game for me.
Will he do a speedrun testing that? Would be fun
Tried this on hardcore ladder on two different characters, got the souls to show all letters but magic find was completely unaffected.
Doesnt this change the game quite a bit? You can now just stack dmg and clear speed, do this and then go MF all areas worthwhile in a game.
changes nothing. this takes way too long to stack up
I was asking myself the same thing, but I think they did it pretty well. It's quite inconvenient to set it up. The time lost can be used to simply kill more monster / do more runs, so it is a bit balanced. Unless you happen to only have somehow very high LR, but no MF, then I guess this would be very useful.
I just did this on my Amazon in SoloPlay Hardcore on Nightmare-Diff. It took me quiet a while to get it going but after like 5mins perma-using pots they started the action. Now I will finish NM and gonna tell you if I can feel the MF. Atm I'm running like 30% MF - so should be quiet significant. HfgL u all
Def. worth it. Realy felt the raised MF.
Dang bro, you could’ve found mang songs like 2 years earlier
Hahaha, nice joke, but nah. Mf is only part of the equation. To drop an archon staff is not that often to begin with, and then there is still an RNG involved
I just noticed! Where tf is my belt in Diablo 4?!?!
Why is his inventory so big?
3:34 Old School Diablo? ... Diablo 1 has items with negative modifiers. There's a thing called the Naked Sorc Run ... and there's a thing called the Beyond Naked Sorc Run where you would equip all the negative modifier equipment that you find.
18 hours, 12 minutes and 15 seconds? That would be a 16-bit counter decreasing every second from its maximum value (65535).
He has -106 magic find and after the easter egg he starts getting blue, rare and even unique. It probably gave him 120-150 magic find buff or at least somewhere in the +30-50 mark.
each letter is 20 points each. he did 7-8 letters, so he go 140-160 magic find boost.
each letter is 600 mf. 150 mf in hell x the number of souls. then for each letter.
@@tarrantwalter524 Where did you get that info from? He said in this video that it's 150 mf per letter that they spell.
Hey did u ever try to do with 5 burning souls...i took 5 by accident and the shape they did was a star (like the one diablo stands on). Mind testing that to see what it does?
:o this needs to be investigated!
Such a cool discovery. Just do this with your nova Sorc, singer barb or Bowszon (any character that naturally lacks MF) then farm the game , TZ, bosses, AL85’s and repeat. Gonna make the game very fun to play those type of builds and not be stuck on Blizzard Sorc and Hdin just to gear up the lesser played characters. I thinks it’s asome !
Such an amazing find!!
Hey mr llama! Hope the family is doing well brother. Keep up the great work
"can use this to Mf with any character!"
yeah.. all you need now is to be able to survive 4 souls in hell without moving for a minute...
holy thunder weapon, tgods, mosers, any and all sources of light absorb and resist like 2 wisp projectors and a guardian angel... ground for helmet.
Very easy with just any light res gear + some light absorbs, any class can do it you just need to prepare a bit for it.
You can also just do this on nightmare and then farm the whole difficulty to find SoJ
Hello mr Lama, I was wondering something. Since we found that secret after all these years. I know this sounds tough but do you think if you get a game with the other easter egg the stained glass and then lure them to near that? Do you think that might have some sort of interaction as well???
Back on D2 content I love it, can you make a guide with new update on bladesin.
I just can't imagine still playing this game full time 20 years after launch. I'm lucky if a game holds my interest for 20 hours. Power to you sir.
nobody has the longevity of the tetris boys
Play better games
man I absolutely agree like i have a FEW standouts which i LOVED and had tons of fun with in the hundreds of hours but like 20k hours in one game NOPE
@@styleisaweaponafter this many years, things are finally starting to fall into place.
@@rainbowGZUS7 I play a shit load of games. Both good and bad. There are plenty of bad games that kill that average.
Don't get me wrong I have over 4,000 hours in Destiny 2 so I'm also prone to replaying the same game forever. But Diablo 2 hasn't had new content in 2 decades. That's a rough grind to keep going back to.
Do we know that it stacks?
I was looking in Diablo 2 Resurrected files and found some peculiarities…
Wirt’s Leg with 3 Ist Runes. Best cow run ever!
this is way to difficult for me. I've tried at least 10 times and i always end up killing the souls accidentally.
Next question; who did this and found anything good?... how many times did you have to do it?...
Ahhh. Glad to be back to D2. Feels right and good.
I bet with cheat engine and looking at hex values on your magic find you can see it go up and down behind the scenes. The MF increase is being written somewhere I'm just not smart enough to find it behind the scenes but I bet a D2 fan with advanced cheatengine knowledge could find it.
2023 and still didn’t know this
Those ridiculous numbers like 19 hours are mostly determined by data types. Because D2 needed something like 8 MB of RAM, they needed to optimize each bit. Something trivial like MS Paint eats 10 times more than that nowadays just from the start with plain white canvas. That's why PMH lasts approximately 80 minutes and you can't see more than 32k life etc.
haha, 8MB of RAM is something DOS games in mid 90s required. Diablo 2 system requirements are actually 1-2GB of RAM
@@JN-hs5xl They had to update them over the years. But I was wrong tho, it was actually 32 MB.
as someone who just cant get into d4, glad to see you back at D2!
So this is bound to game and all players that join the server will also benefit from extra mf? Plus it's ~19h per game meaning a single session or until I close D2R game?
D2R needs a "Poorman" mode, where creating runewords would be disabled (you can still find runes and use them, but no runewords) and no uniques would drop... So basicaly rare items with some powerful runes or jewels would be best in slot... also maybe some sets would become more viable ?
Also, base Teleport CD is 1 minute, to balance it outm for other classes, without enigma :)
And make this another option when creating a character -> next to ladder, expansion and hardcore.
It's called classic idiot. 99% of items you use are rares.
This is what happens when you build a game from love
Is this in a OLD video? I found you at around d2r launch and never once have I seen any video talking about this? Also, way back when, did the devs tell the community about this easter egg? How could anyone accidentally find this? Lol
While cool, tryin to make a point going to trav and killing council is meh. They don't drop white items..
You would get nothing but blue items with negative MF or nothing if they could *not drop white items*. He was just running around clearing things getting rares/set/uniques to show the difference of literally nothing but white items before hand.
just play non xpac if you want to enjoy finding rares again lol. still the better version of d2 by far. the OG battle hammers, lances, ornates etc.. 🤤
OK after testing it on my own. Yes it does actually work. It's a big PITA though. Probably worth it if you have the time. I'm sure this gets patched out next update.
I did the Easter egg and it worked the one and only first time. It's a one time deal fools.
I’m not saying hokum, because I don’t think it is, BUT, using a modded game proves very little.
I also played with drop-mods back in LoD launch days..
We can have a video explaining the full story of this cool Easter Egg? 😊
I tried the easter egg on cow level and almost everything that dropped was Magic.
The concept of magic find on item level was a mistake in the game design. Fortunately, such stats have disappeared in many modern games.
Hey Llama just wanted to say as of rn there is no link in the description pointing to the easter egg video :)
Does this work in D2 original ?
I reproduced this yesterday on HC seasonal, it is 100% legit. btw the mod you play is interesting because Enigma already has everything included 100 mf which kinda breaks the game...
A really good dungeon crawler on the GBA (Shinning Soul II) had the same concepts. People would craft the "unlucky hood" to go into negative item find, but the game was anticipating players to have some item find on top of that so -1 actually took you to the top value instead. Very cool find, llama.
I love your presentation but I wanna see the exact number of MF. how much it's up to?
theres no way to see the number without reading things from the game that isnt allowed by blizzard
But why didnt you do a cow run before and after? Would have been best...
Tested it on normal offline, they only started making a pentagram after a while and then attacked me again
damn shame diminishing returns hit so hard or this would be worth it. i mustve stacked up to 5000%+ MF but wasn't really getting any more uniques than usual. thanks for the share either way, was fun to try once
I'm genuinely curious to see their modern ethics behind this
do they patch it because its clearly good
or do they keep it because its been in the game for decades
huh? the 4th one is d2's demon symbol (seen on health bars in terror zones too) / the demon symbol used all over other things as well. The first 3 are founders of the game and last 3 are the leads of the categories art/programming/design
This stuff is like 15 years old lol you guys just learning about it?
The fact that it gives mf is like 5-7 years old (knowing that it does)
but characters say "thank you" at the end so people figured it was something forever
This is seriously great for end game, since the ghost spawn at act 4. But I can't seem to understand the meaning of beating the previous bosses and quests with it, since it last only until you beat the game. does that not mean that you have to do it all over again to have it? like, I do this trick, I beat diablo or mephisto and finish the game, then the bonus reset and can't be passed to other character, right? so what gives?
Is this the Show Item Level mod by Beardly357 he is using also?