As a metallurgist I am 100% confident this will fail in service. He has over aged the metal. This much heat is more than enough to completely change the metal structure.
@@tonyaugelli1839 lol the balancing of the tire makes up for it man, I’ve had women come in the shop with wheels needing 4-7 ounces of weights in one spot to counteract the ovaling of the wheel from hitting curbs and such
Nope. I ran a wheel repair shop in the 90's in Atlanta. Tech hasn't changed, no reason the quality would either... If your technician cares,and does quality work, it's sound.
@Adam Davis I agree with you, years as a tire guy myself. Our company had an in house guy with all the machines to do this, the only thing that could come back are oversized wheels with no tires hitting pot holes.
To much heat will crystallise the alloy atomic structure, making it brittle, turning it to scrap, when overhead gantry lighting rigs for concerts are being made the bracing thats welded on is carefully monitored with contact barometer to read the temp while it’s welded, this is critical for safety, unless you know the temps your reaching while working these rims it might be a good idea to find a way to check this ? At a guess I would say your running dam close, it depends on the type of alloys like mags are more forgiving with temperatures up to 450 c, best get some info 👍
@@clayton9136 lol 😂 I didn’t see a temperature gauge anywhere maybe it’s good just seems to much of a risk in my opinion a wheel cost less then a life.
I'm not expert on metal, but i know heating one part of metal will change the structure of the heated part which could be dangerous especially for car wheels.
I straightened out Two Aluminum Mag wheels that were caved in similar to this, just by using heavy ball peen hammers, cold chisels ground, and templates to get the right arc. Slow and steady blows fixed them up.
I rather drive on three wheels than put that on my car…the metal is over aged, weakened…alloy wasn’t made for this…the first bump or hole you came across will tear that thing appart…
This works on non forged wheels, like steelies. On flow formed, forged, and even most milled wheels, it's potentially dangerous, especially on any flow formed from all the natural stress being moved around. The wheel will be less safe than a non fixed one, how safe? We don't know because fixed wheels are almost never tested. That's why it's more dangerous
I mean ive been testing 2 of them for the last 9 years on 2 different cars after a pothole snuck up on me on a drive home from work at night and have been perfect fine since. Even run 4 track days a year on them
This works, metals have high melting points, there's definitely no way heating for some second or few minutes like this would get the steel to a high melting point; we use this method (Torch: oxy acetylene) to repair bent edges.
Why do people not understand crack and bend cannot be restored as original, even if anyone tries to restore it they cannot restore compression strength which part has in every direction when it is manufactured.
Wow. Absolute jerk. Heat an aluminium wheel to the point that paint peels of it, and be proud to have "fixed it"? There is NO WAY that wheel will ever be any good ever again.
Bro I have a question if you can tell me your opinion about this.... So is it worth to tix bent rims? Is it really possible? I really want to fix my car's 3 bent rims but my brother is telling me its better to buy brand new ones. If its possible to fix them and worth it, I will do it because new ones are crazy expensive and my Rims are like GTR rims.. unfortunately they are bent and cause steering wheel vibration and I can't drive car 100KM. Or even 80km/h will appreciate your feedback 🤝
I reckon you could do this with steels, take the heat treat of them, get them malleable and slowly return them to an exact circumference or symmetry. Then re treat them quench or what have you but alloys don’t bend or dint on impact they crack and can do badly just think it’s a bit dodgy I wouldn’t drive on them, but maybe what they’re doing is completely safe and road worthy who knows I’m no wheel fabricator.
doesn't matter if it was a forged aluminum wheel, and a cast There is no way to repair all the cracks in the metal, the "repair" actually made it even more unsafe
Wvwryone worried about heat- its a small propane torch - they dont get that hot. A proper acetylene oxygen torch would definitely affect it!! As it gets stuff red hot!!- or liquid.
I used to work for a wheel manufacturing company I used to design them. Most wheels are heat treated you have no idea what has happened to the aluminium in that wheel. Are cracks introduced from the damage is it crack detected. What you are doing is seriously dangerous if you anneal that aluminium you are removing the strength added by heat treatment and it will fail in service.
Mostrar estos videos nos ayuda a pensar que hay gente irresponsable,no se puede soldar ésta llanta ya que los materiales con la temperatura perdió su compostura química
The problem here it's metel fatigue n weight if you well u adding more weight on 1 side off the ring causing uneveng weigh distribution in order to balance the tires so it's best to get a new wheel not welded
Если спицы и наружный круг не пострадал, то всё правится. Только вот этот диск нагрет неправильно был, и действительно его в металл желательно. Но ездить будет.
Purtroppo l'alluminio essendo "ricotto" diventa molto meno resistente. Ho fatto un recupero del genere su due cerchi in lega ma erano sempre vulnerabili anche alle asperità dell' asfalto. Sempre problemi di tenuta ed equilibratura.
Ive done this with a steel wheel….out of lack of better options for that immediate time. But would never attempt this with aluminum. Anyone watching this thinking about it, please don’t.
As a metallurgist I am 100% confident this will fail in service. He has over aged the metal. This much heat is more than enough to completely change the metal structure.
There is another factor besides, the wheel must be balanced by its construction, what if it was ovalized by the stroke taken?
@@tonyaugelli1839 lol the balancing of the tire makes up for it man, I’ve had women come in the shop with wheels needing 4-7 ounces of weights in one spot to counteract the ovaling of the wheel from hitting curbs and such
Nope.
I ran a wheel repair shop in the 90's in Atlanta.
Tech hasn't changed, no reason the quality would either...
If your technician cares,and does quality work, it's sound.
And, as far as ovaling goes, you doing have to "chase the bend" so to speak. It's just part of the process....
@Adam Davis I agree with you, years as a tire guy myself. Our company had an in house guy with all the machines to do this, the only thing that could come back are oversized wheels with no tires hitting pot holes.
They skipped the actual repair in this clip
if you watch, he uses a yellow hydraulic jack to unmunch the rim, i had to watch it a couple times to catch it myself.
@@tirbomaxyes you are right
A cast aluminum alloy wheel like this will now crack and break
Nobody ever:
“I wanna drive a death trap”
Machanic:
“Say no more”
Steel wheels can be welded, heated and cut. Alloy wheels on the other hand when badly dented should be discarded, especially the cheaper one.
How to wheel repair in steps:
Step 1: repair the wheel
Step two buy a new one
LOL
@@mjrwrxk2295 frfr💀
@@mjrwrxk2295 that wheel would come back to the shop in a day😂
@@mjrwrxk2295 your better off just getting a new alloy🤦
I love the part where they fix it.
Affirmative. That's what you call FM. Fucking magic!
Me too
Lol
It's a seeeeecret Spongebob.
@@BlackNightJack😊k😊,e? 3
I would never trust that rim. Get a new rim
In Germany we say: TÜV sagt Nein.
Nur schon beim gedanken dran😂
In merka willy says no
I can’t wait to pick up my wheels and take my precious family on a nice ride in the mountains.
O’Doyle rules
Hoffentlich gute Felgen
Lol
😂😂😂
I don’tt 😢😢
It was so cool actually seeing the wheel being repaired! I know exactly what to do now!
LOL
To much heat will crystallise the alloy atomic structure, making it brittle, turning it to scrap, when overhead gantry lighting rigs for concerts are being made the bracing thats welded on is carefully monitored with contact barometer to read the temp while it’s welded, this is critical for safety, unless you know the temps your reaching while working these rims it might be a good idea to find a way to check this ? At a guess I would say your running dam close, it depends on the type of alloys like mags are more forgiving with temperatures up to 450 c, best get some info 👍
Its a very dangerous thing
Heat takes the strength out of the metal , even more so on aluminum or magnesium wheels.
Nah it's fine. Only heating it up to around 600⁰ F.
Not to mention, the rim is only 200 new
@@clayton9136 nope.
Heating develops internal stress which makes it weak and unsafe for use.
@@abhishekkushwaha2455 Nah its fine. Only heating it up to about 600⁰F.
@@clayton9136 lol 😂 I didn’t see a temperature gauge anywhere maybe it’s good just seems to much of a risk in my opinion a wheel cost less then a life.
That's the recondition wheel your insurance company wants to use
I'm not expert on metal, but i know heating one part of metal will change the structure of the heated part which could be dangerous especially for car wheels.
I trust my sledge hammer on a steel wheel in the field more than I would ever trust this
Steel wheels are the best. It’s a 3 second fix if it bends
And the factory heat treatment has just left the chat 😅
Perfect wheel for someone u don‘t want to live anymore.
💀
In factory even hairline crack thru x-ray is not acceptable.👍this is nuts
I'd never trust that wheel!
This is toast, and I'd say it's unlikely to hold pressure.
I wouldn't want them back on my car.
X-ray that wheel, cut it up and throw it in the trash.
That wheel is compromised and should be recycled.
Damn bro you didn't even show the repair or nothing... Awesome video
The driver will have to rely on his guardian angel.
Well, I learned absolutely nothing from this.
I straightened out Two Aluminum Mag wheels that were caved in similar to this, just by using heavy ball peen hammers, cold chisels ground, and templates to get the right arc.
Slow and steady blows fixed them up.
Really should use a lead hammer instead.
It's not even worth saving. Like its a cheap rim. Probably costs more to fix it than to buy a new one
I rather drive on three wheels than put that on my car…the metal is over aged, weakened…alloy wasn’t made for this…the first bump or hole you came across will tear that thing appart…
This works on non forged wheels, like steelies. On flow formed, forged, and even most milled wheels, it's potentially dangerous, especially on any flow formed from all the natural stress being moved around. The wheel will be less safe than a non fixed one, how safe? We don't know because fixed wheels are almost never tested. That's why it's more dangerous
I mean ive been testing 2 of them for the last 9 years on 2 different cars after a pothole snuck up on me on a drive home from work at night and have been perfect fine since. Even run 4 track days a year on them
Это уже не диск
мылом хозяйственным мазать надо как только мыло потемнеет катать диск.
This works, metals have high melting points, there's definitely no way heating for some second or few minutes like this would get the steel to a high melting point; we use this method (Torch: oxy acetylene) to repair bent edges.
Why do people not understand crack and bend cannot be restored as original, even if anyone tries to restore it they cannot restore compression strength which part has in every direction when it is manufactured.
I'm not a mechanic.. but i have used a sport rim repair from burning like this. it's been 1 year+ still working fine. from my opinion it's ok.
The labor for the repair costs the same price as buying a new wheel 😂
Потом такие диски по микротрещинам рассыпаются. Прям на ходу!
Wow. Absolute jerk. Heat an aluminium wheel to the point that paint peels of it, and be proud to have "fixed it"? There is NO WAY that wheel will ever be any good ever again.
Wheels was my job for nine years. Did many wheels for Ferrari and Maserati. Porsche Vancouver, and every body shop in between.
Customer states: It just shakes when driving.
This is aluminum alloy once it's bent it's garbage.
Combine this vid with a retread vid 😎
And a crash vid.
This is the work of the Chinese then they re sell as new 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably more efficient and safer to just replace that wheel.
More like for sure.
Did the owner pay before his fatal crash?
Диск в металлолом ездить опасно.
По городу можно
Как вы ездите , вам вообще за руль опасно
Bro I have a question if you can tell me your opinion about this.... So is it worth to tix bent rims? Is it really possible? I really want to fix my car's 3 bent rims but my brother is telling me its better to buy brand new ones. If its possible to fix them and worth it, I will do it because new ones are crazy expensive and my Rims are like GTR rims.. unfortunately they are bent and cause steering wheel vibration and I can't drive car 100KM. Or even 80km/h will appreciate your feedback 🤝
I like how they hammered the part after heating which unfortunately peeled off the paint
I reckon you could do this with steels, take the heat treat of them, get them malleable and slowly return them to an exact circumference or symmetry. Then re treat them quench or what have you but alloys don’t bend or dint on impact they crack and can do badly just think it’s a bit dodgy I wouldn’t drive on them, but maybe what they’re doing is completely safe and road worthy who knows I’m no wheel fabricator.
doesn't matter if it was a forged aluminum wheel, and a cast
There is no way to repair all the cracks in the metal, the "repair" actually made it even more unsafe
Pros: wheel is fixed
Cons: owner is now dead
😂 got me! I’ll be sure to never click on his videos again
I would never put a so damaged even if repaired I would never mount it on my car
Fixed with nothing but the the power of positive thinking.
Where is the process????
How did they manage to damage the inside of the wheel???????
Wvwryone worried about heat- its a small propane torch - they dont get that hot. A proper acetylene oxygen torch would definitely affect it!! As it gets stuff red hot!!- or liquid.
Definitely safe. Rip to who ever drive that vehicle on those wheels
Same process on forged wheels?
Thats more like "How i can kill my customer effectively"
These wheels can crack right?? Why would u repair them like this isnt it dangerous?
I used to work for a wheel manufacturing company I used to design them. Most wheels are heat treated you have no idea what has happened to the aluminium in that wheel.
Are cracks introduced from the damage is it crack detected.
What you are doing is seriously dangerous if you anneal that aluminium you are removing the strength added by heat treatment and it will fail in service.
Almost every car manufacturer states this is an absolute no go in their work shop manuals!
Nice temporary repair. Straightening alloy wheels weakens them.
Nice job and it's a temporary fix if you don't have 500 to 1000 dollars for a new rim
Aluminium for flame heating???? , only cattle will do it
Mostrar estos videos nos ayuda a pensar que hay gente irresponsable,no se puede soldar ésta llanta ya que los materiales con la temperatura perdió su compostura química
Will the repair cost more than a new wheel?
Fine bit of editing there, he pushed the dent out and the wheel broke and it had to be welded back together.
Wouldn't put it on my car.
DO NOT USE THAT WHEEL!!!
Sooooo according to the video you make it hot and slang it out😂👍🏻
The problem here it's metel fatigue n weight if you well u adding more weight on 1 side off the ring causing uneveng weigh distribution in order to balance the tires so it's best to get a new wheel not welded
So just heat it up and it straightens itself out👎
Been nice if we could've seen some of the process. With this, you coulda did a before and after pic... Lmao.
Этот диск можно уже выкинуть
Если спицы и наружный круг не пострадал, то всё правится. Только вот этот диск нагрет неправильно был, и действительно его в металл желательно. Но ездить будет.
Знакомый работает на шиномонтажке, каждый день проделывает подобные операции с дисками. Недовольных клиентов нет - ещё ни один не возвращался.
I’m no expert but I’m fairly confident the heat treat on that wheel is now fucked. I wouldn’t drive on that.
One aluminum doesn’t show stress when heated and heating aluminum with a torch makes that like a potato chip
Purtroppo l'alluminio essendo "ricotto" diventa molto meno resistente. Ho fatto un recupero del genere su due cerchi in lega ma erano sempre vulnerabili anche alle asperità dell' asfalto. Sempre problemi di tenuta ed equilibratura.
Dont fix it, buy a new one. Microscopic cracks are still in there.
I've fixed hundreds of aluminum wheels and never once had an issue.
@@clayton9136 Probs cuz your customers are dead. Or were told to buy new ones elsewhere.
@@sebastianriz4703 Lol okay.
Yeah 😎 at this point just get a new wheel I’m sure this will withstand many many years of service! A new wheel is cheaper too!
Ive done this with a steel wheel….out of lack of better options for that immediate time. But would never attempt this with aluminum. Anyone watching this thinking about it, please don’t.
Repair process so impressive they forgot to film it
this is a danger, in Brazil a famous singer died because of this repair, his car fell into a road hole, the car overturned and killed everyone
So is this a scam business? Because that is going to fail on the first big bump.
I wouldn’t trust that for a second. 🇳🇿NZ
How much does this 'fixing' cost? How much is a new rim? My family's lives and my own make it worth buying a new one
So _that's_ why my "reconditioned" alloy wheels don't balance for shit.
Guaranteed to 30mph, or the end of the road, whichever comes first.
Replace it. Not worth taking shortcuts that will put you at risk just to save a buck.
I'm glad a full set of new Terras for my car is less than $700, because NO thank you, alloys are weak enough to begin with lol
Диск перегрели, он уже никуда не годится
this is very dangerous cause this weaken the metal
Отпуск сделали, норм
Херня
So when was it repaired?
Only missed the part where you straighten the dam wheel
I have a rim business if this happens to your wheel don't be dump an cheep with your life just buy a new wheel
The wheel will keep cracking. He keep repairing. The wheel will crack again. $$$…