Snare Hoop Comparison | Triple Flange vs. Die Cast vs. Wood | Thomann
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- With this video i'd like to investigate the importance of snare hoop materials! Can you hear the difference between wooden and metal hoops? Let me know in the comments!
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Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Introduction
0:25 Hoops presentation
0:45 Triple flange hoop
1:33 Die cast hoop
2:30 Wood hoop
3:37 Back to back comparison
4:15 Personal faves & Outro
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I HAVE wondered, many times.
Thanks for the video.
Wooden hoops is the clear winner for me.
Full sound, warm, doesn't lack detail with ghost notes and doubles, crisp cross stick. Killer looks. ✨
He did not point out how much easier rim shots are on wood hoops, they have a wider easier to hit area and are much less impactfull to you hand/wrist from rimshots. They also unlike people think are very durable. (you are hitting a wood stick againt a wood hoop) I cant even dent mine if i try. they wont hack into you sticks and snap it like a metal hoop. I just fit a wooden hoop to the top of my snares.
@@krusher74 I'm getting mine as soon as...
I just tried bronze hoops and can’t believe the difference it made. Unbelievable!!
Always thought I would prefer diecast, but I'm loving the warmth of the wood! Curious to know the manufacturer and where they were purchased.
i like the diecast hoops cleaner tighter and more of a distinct sound!
to me, the Woody rim shots from the wood hoop fit more in the overall drum sound. I"m really impressed by this hoop. ok with the triple flange, surprisingly disappointed by the die cast.
Now thats the video we all needed! I always wondered, what kind of a difference these hoops were making, especially in a direct comparison... so this is great. I actually use a DW Collectors Knurled Steel Snare (heavy thing!) with a top die-cast hoop. But having heard this, the wood hoops actually sound better to me... and the looks are just great. I think I have to look for these now... thanks for the enlighting! :)
Your welcome. I also love the combination of a wood hoop on the batter side and a triple flanged or die cast on the reso side. //Simon
im using diecast now. thank you for this. i want to change to wood. it really helps, containing the overtune
Ok, nothing to add, the characteristics of the single hoops are performed picobello 👍! But my experience with recording and life playing is that there is a tremendous difference between the snare drum sounding alone and with music. This gives a little more advantage to the die cast hoop in many situations. Also the waste of sticks matters, with die cast hoops more, with wood hoops less. And finally the tuning stability, which is clearly the most disadvantage of a wood hoop (i have three snares with all kind of wood hoops). So, as a result the winner is the classic triple flanged hoop with the average best sound and the very best over-all practical conditions.
From just a regular tap, I'd say not a lot of noticeable difference. BUT, rimshots yes: Wood having a more open note, die cast less (and this too me is related to the mass of each one on the head).
Left off from the test, the rim-clicks/side-sticks would also all be different. I play smaller gigs and ska so wood hoops on a wood drum with maple sticks are great for that smaller gig vibe. And I love a diecast rim click when I'm playing ska.
Diecast on top, triple flange on bottom. The preferred method of Stewart Copeland of The Police. Hard rim shots on top and still lets the drum ring out the bottom.
maybe a 1.6 bottom would be even better then? i have to try now.
Hi bro. Do you know if the dw true hoops fit on the other dw series, Like the design or performance.
Hey man. I‘m not a 100% sure but I think it should be no problem. //Simon
The difference between the die cast and triple flange are minimal. The wood though is like night and day different. The wooden hoops appear way warmer with sweeter overtones as opposed to dissonant ones found with the metal.
From my experience die cast hoops give you a very broad spectrum of overtones, while triple flange hoops has more energy in just the lower/mid overtones. Also die cast hoops seem to give a more consistent rimshot, while the triple flange has more variation when you move the stick slightly. And wood often just sounds kind of sour in my opinion.
what about these Angel hoops?
WOOD sounds awesome
I really like it too //Simon
The. Diecast and triple flange sound the same 🤔
OH NO !!
I went from 1.7mm triple flange to die cast and then to 2.3mm triple flange. The 2.3mm triple flange gives me exactly what I want. The wood hoops are nice, but not for the type of music I play.
Wood hoop on the top, die-cast on the bottom!
why not adding to the test the 3mm triple flanged? basically like a 2.3 but with a tad more control on overtones and better stability for tuning. really a good hoop too!
Great tip. Definitely want to check them out //Simon
Ok that was weird but i personally preferred the wood hoops. It just sounded more pleasing to my ears.
What's wierd is maybe you listen with your eyes more than your ears.
@@krusher74 i wasn’t watching just listening.
Ok. It depends on the drum material, the depth and the style. If you're playing a wooden snare, you better choose Die Cast (for focus) or Wood (for fatness). Triple flanged will give you just overtones. If you're playing a metal snare (Specially brass, chromed or black nickeled), Die cast (for less overtones and focus) or triple flanged (for warm and open). If it is a thick shell... use triple flanged so you can combine the characteristics. If it is a thinner shell... die cast will help to gain focus. Get this: Die cast records amazingly well... but if you play jazz... better triple flanged... Die cast is for people that hit like a Rhino (or just wants more articulation)... and triple flanged will give you more substance of the drum.
Thanks for the info!
Wood is the CLEAR winner!
The die-cast rings too much, the wood sings too much, I think the triple-flanged hoops sound the best in my opinion. Classic snare sound.
Of all the rock drummers I've ever heard the only drummer who really knew how to tune a snare drum was the one from Sting. Nice crisp solid sound. Learn to tune a snare drum.
Which one? Sting has had a looot of drummers. Stewart Copeland, Vinnie Colaiuta, Manu Katche, Omar Hakim, Zach Jones…
Hooddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!
Too much ring. The head is not muffled. Drum sounds like crap
To compare how different hoops affect the sound of a snare, it would make little sense to change the sound of the snare beforehand by damping it. That's exactly what you want to hear, namely how the hoops affect the ring and sustain.
The ring is needed to cut through a mix. That is a pleasing amount of ring. Dead snares sound horrible on recordings, and live.