Do Different Snare Hoops Make Different Sounds? Triple Flanged vs. Die Cast vs. S Hoops
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
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In this sound comparison, we dive into the merits of different snare hoops options! While hoops may not be our first thought when it comes to selecting a snare, there are a wide variety of hoops that come fitted to our snares, so what exactly is the difference?
In this video we set to spell out the exact sound difference between the 3 most popular types of hoops, triple flanged, die cast, and S hoops. Which will come out on top?
Contents (Quick Navigation):
0:00 - Introduction
1:04 - The Details
2:07 - Die Cast
2:30 - Triple Flanged
2:49 - S Hoops
3:09 - Die Cast Roll
3:25 - Triple Flanged Roll
3:42 - S Hoop Roll
4:01 - Die Cast Groove
4:20 - Triple Flanged Groove
4:39 - S Hoop Groove
4:48 - Back to Back Comparison
5:10 - Final Thoughts
Gear Featured:
Tama 'Star Cast' Die Cast Hoops
DrumCraft Satin Triple Flanged Hoops
Mapex 'Sonic Saver' S Hoops
Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage 22x18" Kick
Tama Starclassic 14x5.5" Copper Snare
Zildjian Avedis 14" Hats
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Very interesting to hear. Its often been said that die cast's stifle a drum but TBH they offer an almost pre compressed sound that almost seems to be tighter.
I just got a pearl free-floating Maple mahogany 14 x 6.5 snare drum with die-cast hoops.. although you are correct in saying diecast hoops are more focused and have less ring or sustain/ resonance. And that is truly correct.. however it depends on what type of shell the die-cast hoop is on.. this particular free floater obviously resonates very very well with diecast Hoops which probably has a lot to do with the free floater..it doesn't have any penetrating holes in its shell..and that she'll actually floats in between the top hoop and the floating hoop..than the bottom dicast hoop.( I will take a picture for a better visual of that system. that being said this particular shell has a beautiful tonal resonance cuppeled with a very nice sustain... perfect amount that i I prefer. Like you said earlier it just depends what type of drum it's on but basically in the Wheelhouse you are correct in your comparison assessment and Final opinion.It is audibly noticeable. So I agree👍 kudos !great video! keep up the good work!😎... I couldn't add a photo to this thread maybe I did something wrong if you wanted see what it looks like just Google Pearl free floating snare drum.... I'm not affiliated with pearl nor am I endorsed with anyone... this is just a personal assessment with my own personal snare drum.
I have a rare Michael Miley (from Rival Sons) style Gretsch aluminum which comes with triple flange hoops and tube lugs. Normal aluminums have die-cast and big lugs. Massive differnce. Rings like crazy and I LOVE it.
Thanks! Great video! All 3 were very close. The S hoop seemed to have it all. Great rim shot crack, & lively ring.
I think it’s more about the ring. However my take is this. I prefer die cast because of the feel. Just a bit stiffer and more focused.
Thanks for the video. It would have been nice to hear a snare head that isn't pre-muted like a standard 1 or 2 ply coated so we could hear the real differences. There are differences but the more you mute the head, the less apparent they will be.
thanks
I was waiting to hear the sound diference when doing cross stick
Good stuff. I was wondering what the difference was as I just ordered a Ludwig Absolute brass snare. They off 2 variations with the diecast and triple flange with the diecast black nickel plated matching the black brass and the triple flange being chrome plated. I ordered the triple flange if nothing else because it is cheaper and aesthetically, the chrome pops against the black brass. As a non drummer I didn't hear much difference in other comparisons between the two, but in your comparison the triple flange sounded a bit tighter. Thanks, that makes me happy about my choice.
Ooops. Universal, not absolute. The Yamaha kit is still on my mind.
The thickness of the hoop is important. Triple flange hoops vary in thickness and your choice of a Drumcrsft Lignum Maple triple flanged hoop is not typical as they are thicker than most at 2.5mm. I know I’ve got one! The material also will effect sound. Steel, aluminium, copper, zinc and brass to name a few!!
When considering the MASS of 1.6mm vs 2.3mm triple flanged hoops vs S-hoop vs die cast hoops, ask yourself these basic Q's: 1. how hard do you hit your drums? 2. how big are your sticks? 3. are you using single vs double-ply heads? The harder / heavier / thicker, the greater the benefits of using heavier hoops with respect to tuning accuracy, rimshot projection, and head life.
S hoop 🎼🥁🎼🥁❤️
Triple flange is better for fat sound?
I'm new to this topic so...how can i know wich hoop is what? In case that i wanted to buy one so they don't trick me? Lol ...😂🤔
Maybe with a single ply head(G1/Ambassador) the the differences would have been bigger
No doubt about it
Those are not S Hoops, they are Sonic Saver Hoops.
Spot on! I got confused for a minute.
Yeah not S-hoops for sure.
same inwards curve shape but yeah an S has a wider flange going inwards than the sonic saver
I think the HD Dry head is keeping the hoops from making a bigger difference since it already kills so much ring.
For me, in this comparison, I think I liked the sound of the die cast hoops best.
Personally i mostly prefer thin 1.6mm hoops on my drums.
Yes especially on old aluminium snares. I know a guy who takes whatever the hoops may be, cast/ s-hoops/ Triple flanged 2.6mm or whatever and put those thinner hoops on the snares. Personally I’m a die cast or S-Hoops kind of person.
I prefer triple flanged, there's much more life to the drum in my opinion.
Triple flanged for me.
I just go with whatever hoop my drums come with. This sh!t gets expensive , heads alone are ridiculous , add hoops , sticks etc. , lol.
S-hoops wins all day long on this particular snare!
I don’t hear the difference in hoops. I can hear the difference in snare tension
Die cast is and always will be best
I hear no difference between the triple flanged and the s hoops. The die cast are drier.
definitely the die cast
Those are not S-hoops
What shape would you call them?
@@drumdog you do realize there are S-hoops and these are Sonic Saver hoops from Mapex. Do some research and you will see the difference.
@@drumdog same S shape, but an S has a wider flange going inwards than the mapex sonic savers. S hoops are a bit more dry controlled than sonic savers, which dont seem to be around anymore either, so S hoops look to be the only alternative. There is also 3mm triples which are cool
forget the sound. which hoops are best to make that bastard not detune after a couple of songs? those god damn lugs turn loose so fast itßs not even funny. and i dont even hit extremely hard.