@@user-ws1ob2hs5s he had wrinkles created from the bagging process. He probably should have just skipped that step and threw on the resin instead of bagging. You can kinda still see them even after he layered on the next few resin. Bagging is usually good when the face of the fiber is inside a mold
Just a tid bit of advice. Use a mild rubbing compound on a foam pad and then use a machine polish on a separate softer foam pad, that will help remove the light hazing (underbuff) and helps eliminate swirl marks. But..that was an amazing end result and absolutely video.
Since you ended up with the carbon bridging in some of the sections(unseen clip areas), do you think with this particular door panel vacuum bagging was necessary? I could see on more complex shapes but this one was pretty flat.
Vacuum bagging gets the bubbles out. It wont help you with the form or anything, it just reduces the amount of epoxy to the required minimum while getting out some air inclusions.
I want my 370Z door panels to look like this! I changed the fabric but want that look for my doors now. I’m in Cali so now I gotta look for someone to do this for me.
Thank you for mentioning that 2k clearcoat is deadly. It's got similar chemistry to cyanide ion, which is what gives you cyanide poisoning. It's pretty much the same thing.
Awesome video and thorough step-by-step! A word of caution to you, though. The isocyanates in 2K clear can get into series 6000 filters and mess you up. You should have a remote air supply even if you can't be in a booth. 2K clear is nasty stuff and wouldn't want you risking your lungs to get a good finish on the parts. Even if you can't smell paint, isocyanates are scentless and are smaller particles than paint. Be safe and keep on recording, these videos are great.
@@alliancecarbon8869 any remote-source system should be fine. They're expensive, but worth it when compared to the side effects otherwise. The important thing to remember is the body can develope an intolerance to isocyanates after only one use, but it could happen at any time. Incredibly scary to see happen.
Vacuum bagging while carbon fiber skiing helps a ton with even epoxy distribution and adhering the carbon to complex parts, I would highly recommend it! Thank you for the comment!
@@alliancecarbon8869 Do you have a video on how to make the bag? Where to get the material to create a bag? Did you just cut plastic and painters tape it together to make a seal? Sorry couldn't tell. Any info on the bag part would be great!!!
If you sand it more you'll sand the carbon fiber and make a mess. wrinkles are almost unavoidable unless you use an actual mold so that the part of the carbon that receives pressure is the back.
Dang! Your the real “chemist “. I would not even know where to start. You should have your own shop, and when you do I will bring my car to ya if it’s not to expensive. If ya don’t have your own shop you should . I just bought a carbon fiber spoiler and it was horrible.. great video!
Great work, I have a similar setup. The only difference is I use composite envisions uvpoxy as my topcoat. Then sand, cut and buff. But your final look is awesome 👌
Dope! 🤘🏻😎🤙🏻 I was wondering why the heck you used the bag.. I skinned a couple parts without the bag, but then read your explanation comment below.. and I'd agree complex parts are certainly a pain in the@$$ I'm gonna look into getting a bag/vacuum setup thanks for the video bro! 👌🏻 Great job.. cheers 🍻
I know this is probably operation budget friendly but dude wear gloves! Slow the heck down when mixing all your doing is aerating your mixture when you stir that fast, and use your brush to work out bubbles or creases on the carbon fiber fabric.
You have a sub from me man! I dabble in a lot of everything on my channel and want to do some carbon skinning. I only have a few questions for you such as what is your bagging setup? How much did it cost you?
Thanks man I appreciate it you can find a similar set up for sale on composite envisions website under vacuum bagging starter kit. The price all depends on what you are looking for! feel free to message me on Instagram I can help you out a bit more @alliancecarbon
That's a really expensive way to get delamination in a few years. Simplify the process to save time and money, as well as achieve a result which will last virtually forever... Instead of filler, rough up the surface with 40 or 80 grit sandpaper. Follow that with a rag soaked in acetone. Wipe the entire surface so that the acetone softens the top layer. Immediately follow that with a "laminating" polyester resin (instead of epoxy). Add the black dye if you prefer. Don't wait for the resin to set. Immediately lay the carbon fiber down onto the surface. Use a fiberglass roller or a very firm paint roller to press the cloth into place, as well as to press out any trapped air. Mix a second batch of resin. This time use a "finishing" polyester resin. Again, not epoxy. Alternatively, you can add a wax filler to the same laminating resin used in the initial coat. Use a brush to DAB the resin over the cloth. Do not brush it. After dabbing the second layer, roll that out again. Let the second layer cure completely, overnight. No such thing as over-cured. After that, sand with 2000 grit, then spray the clear coat. Cut and buff to your preference. Results: No wrinkles. Lighter weight. Significant cost savings, as polyester is cheaper than epoxy. No trapped air that will cause future delamination. Also no trapped air means you won't have a blotchy finish. Total labor cut by approximately 75%.
I literally just subscribed to ur channel having watched that vid! I swear I would pay you well to wrap my panels in my 350Z just like that! Are you located close to, or near Florida by chance?
@@alliancecarbon8869 you’re kidding right? What part?? I’m located in Daytona/ Holly Hill. How can I message u my contact info? I would be looking to do so whenever u could, very serious. No rush though really as I have 2 others cars I’m getting things for also. So u could literally work at ur own pace
@@Z3us.6 if its your first time you might run into some issues! I would practice on smaller parts before tackling something that big! Good luck brother!
I tried this and it didn't work. Once your carbon fiber touches the epoxy there's no repositioning it. I let it dry until tacky and it just made a mess of my carbon fiber weave.
Nicely done! Idk if you do all your work from home but idc. If I’m helping build ya business that’s awesome. Ima text you about something else I might look into.
in my opinion, he just wanted the carbon fiber pattern on the door panel. Whereas creating a mold will results in changing the door panel into a carbon fiber. On top of that he need to create a mold for just one time use. that's what I thought although it will be pretty interesting to see it. I think he need to use VARTM for that instead of hand lay up
@@coreyconway1289 I will say it's about the same ammount to make it. first make a fiberglass mold and then lay up the carbonfiber inside and vaccum bag it. and then you save all the time doing finish work
because skinning takes less than half as much time and resources, and you still have to sacrifice the original piece either way when it's upholstered like these door cards are
@@alliancecarbon8869 It also states - "how to make a carbon fiber door panel" before it's clicked on so you don't see that until you've got a hit. Seems like just saying how too carbon fiber skin a door panel would be a bit better.
Can anyone do 4 my door panels on my prius 2015 ? Or tell me where they do ? Please. Thank you ! You guys might laugh since I said its prius, I got crazy prius tho !!! 😁
What a waste of carbon fiber you literally did not do any weight reduction you would have a better chance of making a mold of each side put a layer or 2 and mold than them both together for half the Weight
I highly recommend sanding the first cured layer for better results.
what happens if you dont?
@@user-ws1ob2hs5s he had wrinkles created from the bagging process. He probably should have just skipped that step and threw on the resin instead of bagging. You can kinda still see them even after he layered on the next few resin. Bagging is usually good when the face of the fiber is inside a mold
@@Brakzillaa couldn't he have sanded out the wrinkles?
@@Brakzillaa Are you saying he should have started wet sanding after finishing applying the resin at 6:30?
@@hectorvarela_ if you sand carbon it’s really easy to go through the resin and nick the carbon.
Just a tid bit of advice. Use a mild rubbing compound on a foam pad and then use a machine polish on a separate softer foam pad, that will help remove the light hazing (underbuff) and helps eliminate swirl marks. But..that was an amazing end result and absolutely video.
Somebody has been watching ECO-LAPs channel. Great work! But one hint... you really should be wearing gloves through the process.
Yeah, I love his style of videos!
Since you ended up with the carbon bridging in some of the sections(unseen clip areas), do you think with this particular door panel vacuum bagging was necessary? I could see on more complex shapes but this one was pretty flat.
Vacuum bagging gets the bubbles out. It wont help you with the form or anything, it just reduces the amount of epoxy to the required minimum while getting out some air inclusions.
I want my 370Z door panels to look like this! I changed the fabric but want that look for my doors now. I’m in Cali so now I gotta look for someone to do this for me.
you should do a video on how you did the leather insert as well looks great :)
for realllll where did you get that hex pattern material??
@@orangehammock its all over ebay , I ordered some myself.... matches my floor mats and trunk mat!
Thank you for mentioning that 2k clearcoat is deadly. It's got similar chemistry to cyanide ion, which is what gives you cyanide poisoning. It's pretty much the same thing.
Omg.... the intro had me 😍🤤😍🤤😍 those door panels came out Amazing!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
🔥🔥🔥 Nice tutorial. Thanks for the insite.
Thats a great idea!! So its pretty a real carbon fiber wrap. I like how that turned out.
Awesome video and thorough step-by-step! A word of caution to you, though. The isocyanates in 2K clear can get into series 6000 filters and mess you up. You should have a remote air supply even if you can't be in a booth. 2K clear is nasty stuff and wouldn't want you risking your lungs to get a good finish on the parts. Even if you can't smell paint, isocyanates are scentless and are smaller particles than paint. Be safe and keep on recording, these videos are great.
Hi thanks for the comment, do you have a recommendation as to what would be the safe option?
@@alliancecarbon8869 any remote-source system should be fine. They're expensive, but worth it when compared to the side effects otherwise. The important thing to remember is the body can develope an intolerance to isocyanates after only one use, but it could happen at any time. Incredibly scary to see happen.
@@patrickpetersen8663 Thank you for the heads up I will look into that!
Man great I've been looking for a video tutorial that included bagging in the lamination process. Big help and big props great work.
i watch this one vid now i thank im a carbon fiber putter on expert ...
That came out really good, but how can avoid having those wrinkles from the plastic cover when you vacuum sealed it?
gotta sand them down
Very great job! I’ve considered bagging but I’m too afraid lol. That is definitely the best way to go about carbon skinning. Very impressive!
Vacuum bagging while carbon fiber skiing helps a ton with even epoxy distribution and adhering the carbon to complex parts, I would highly recommend it! Thank you for the comment!
@@alliancecarbon8869 Do you have a video on how to make the bag? Where to get the material to create a bag? Did you just cut plastic and painters tape it together to make a seal? Sorry couldn't tell. Any info on the bag part would be great!!!
i would have sanded that first layer more
I agree
If you sand it more you'll sand the carbon fiber and make a mess. wrinkles are almost unavoidable unless you use an actual mold so that the part of the carbon that receives pressure is the back.
Amazing work. 🤘🤘🤘
You do good work
My favorite asmr video!
What epoxy are you using. I haven't been able to get mine to stick to plastic even after using 60grit sanding.
Nice job! If you switch over to prepreg carbon fiber you would be done after taking it out of the vacuum bag.
This is an overlay, not a full carbon fiber part!
Well I tried. I think with prepreg you need to cure the part in a oven or autoclave which a door panel probably wouldn't like.
Why did you multiplay the resin with 0,33? I thought its like alwys half the gramms of the resin like 100g resin and 50g hardener
Beautiful job!
Dang! Your the real “chemist “. I would not even know where to start. You should have your own shop, and when you do I will bring my car to ya if it’s not to expensive. If ya don’t have your own shop you should . I just bought a carbon fiber spoiler and it was horrible.. great video!
What kind of carbon fiber material is this? The website that’s listed has plates, sheets,twill weaves
Great work, you made it look so simple👍👏👏👏
Thanks so much 😊
What is the purpose of using the 2K clear why not just cut and buff the epoxy?
UV protection from the sun
Great work, I have a similar setup. The only difference is I use composite envisions uvpoxy as my topcoat. Then sand, cut and buff. But your final look is awesome 👌
@@blinky22729 that will yellow over time most likely but regardless its good stuff!
Looks nice!
where the honercomb fabric from though i been looking everywhere ?
Hey,,, where did you purchase the quilted leather fabric?
amazing results man
that vacuum was freaking smart😭
Nice one bro
Wait so the original panel is still adhered to it?
I now know what I’m going to do for my bmw e46 doors 😍
Thinking of doing the same, do you have any notes?
How much would you charge to do this?
As labor intensive as it is and at about $10.00 per hour it would probably come out to about $1700.00 per door.
Muy buen tutorial,gracias👍
Came out fire
What kinda metal valve you have (this one which you mount on bag)
Dope! 🤘🏻😎🤙🏻 I was wondering why the heck you used the bag.. I skinned a couple parts without the bag, but then read your explanation comment below.. and I'd agree complex parts are certainly a pain in the@$$ I'm gonna look into getting a bag/vacuum setup thanks for the video bro! 👌🏻 Great job.. cheers 🍻
It came out perfect and shines great.👍
good job
Thanks for the video, you killed it.
Thank you!
Do you sell these panels finished?
how could you have avoided the wrinkles/bunching for next time?
I should've laid the peel ply down evenly and made the bag larger, mistakes were made.
Can you list the product you use.
Great job. Looks very good!
Came out really good 👍
I know this is probably operation budget friendly but dude wear gloves! Slow the heck down when mixing all your doing is aerating your mixture when you stir that fast, and use your brush to work out bubbles or creases on the carbon fiber fabric.
You have a sub from me man! I dabble in a lot of everything on my channel and want to do some carbon skinning. I only have a few questions for you such as what is your bagging setup? How much did it cost you?
Thanks man I appreciate it you can find a similar set up for sale on composite envisions website under vacuum bagging starter kit. The price all depends on what you are looking for! feel free to message me on Instagram I can help you out a bit more @alliancecarbon
AllianceCarbon appreciate it and I will add you for sure!
@@alliancecarbon8869 Hi, if I pay, for how much would you charge for my prius 4 door panels ?
is the vaccum bagging necessary?
Are you going to offer this at your website?
where did you get that hex pattern material for the door inserts?
I had it custom made
That's a really expensive way to get delamination in a few years. Simplify the process to save time and money, as well as achieve a result which will last virtually forever...
Instead of filler, rough up the surface with 40 or 80 grit sandpaper.
Follow that with a rag soaked in acetone. Wipe the entire surface so that the acetone softens the top layer. Immediately follow that with a "laminating" polyester resin (instead of epoxy). Add the black dye if you prefer.
Don't wait for the resin to set. Immediately lay the carbon fiber down onto the surface. Use a fiberglass roller or a very firm paint roller to press the cloth into place, as well as to press out any trapped air.
Mix a second batch of resin. This time use a "finishing" polyester resin. Again, not epoxy. Alternatively, you can add a wax filler to the same laminating resin used in the initial coat. Use a brush to DAB the resin over the cloth. Do not brush it. After dabbing the second layer, roll that out again.
Let the second layer cure completely, overnight. No such thing as over-cured. After that, sand with 2000 grit, then spray the clear coat. Cut and buff to your preference.
Results: No wrinkles. Lighter weight. Significant cost savings, as polyester is cheaper than epoxy. No trapped air that will cause future delamination. Also no trapped air means you won't have a blotchy finish. Total labor cut by approximately 75%.
@6:36 what are those things/products that you used?
I literally just subscribed to ur channel having watched that vid! I swear I would pay you well to wrap my panels in my 350Z just like that! Are you located close to, or near Florida by chance?
Thanks man! Yes swfl
@@alliancecarbon8869 you’re kidding right? What part?? I’m located in Daytona/ Holly Hill. How can I message u my contact info? I would be looking to do so whenever u could, very serious. No rush though really as I have 2 others cars I’m getting things for also. So u could literally work at ur own pace
@@LuisGonzalez-ns1mc you can contact us @alliancecarbon on instagram
I’m trying to get this done to my dashboard lol do you think it’s possible?
yes it is, I wouldn't skin carbon over an airbag though.
AllianceCarbon good thing I have a mans car lol kidding. My s13 didn’t come with airbags. I’m also afraid it’s going to come out crappy.
@@Z3us.6 if its your first time you might run into some issues! I would practice on smaller parts before tackling something that big! Good luck brother!
Just bear in mind if your going for a gloss finish it kicks off a lot of glare in the sun. May want to finish it in matt clear instead.
Awesome work 🔥
mantapp sultann
You are 100% RICER
Easy.
I tried this and it didn't work. Once your carbon fiber touches the epoxy there's no repositioning it. I let it dry until tacky and it just made a mess of my carbon fiber weave.
10 number 5 star
Nicely done! Idk if you do all your work from home but idc. If I’m helping build ya business that’s awesome. Ima text you about something else I might look into.
thanks brother
Dam thats sick
What epoxy do you use and which fabric, 3k or 6k?
epoxy is shown in the video, i used 3k
don't compress again, it wrinkle your fabric
With your basic skills why don't you do it the right way make a mold and make it in pure carbon fiber and not overly
in my opinion, he just wanted the carbon fiber pattern on the door panel. Whereas creating a mold will results in changing the door panel into a carbon fiber. On top of that he need to create a mold for just one time use. that's what I thought
although it will be pretty interesting to see it. I think he need to use VARTM for that instead of hand lay up
It is very expensive and time consuming that's why Most people are after the look not weight reduction
@@coreyconway1289 I will say it's about the same ammount to make it. first make a fiberglass mold and then lay up the carbonfiber inside and vaccum bag it. and then you save all the time doing finish work
because skinning takes less than half as much time and resources, and you still have to sacrifice the original piece either way when it's upholstered like these door cards are
How’s the glare in the sun 😎...
Was waiting to see a carbon fiber part not skinning change the tittle
the title says its carbon fiber skinning check your eyes
@@alliancecarbon8869 It also states - "how to make a carbon fiber door panel" before it's clicked on so you don't see that until you've got a hit. Seems like just saying how too carbon fiber skin a door panel would be a bit better.
Where are your protective gloves? You are dealing with chemicals. You should put them on.
Looks good, but this is skinning, not part creation.
says it right in the title boss
Epic come back 😂
Little bit of practice and next one will be perfect
What's with all the extra coats, isn't that just adding weight, should be able to resign straight over the panel.
I’ll pay you to do this for me 😂😂
Send me a DM on instagram @alliancecarbon
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Can anyone do 4 my door panels on my prius 2015 ? Or tell me where they do ? Please. Thank you !
You guys might laugh since I said its prius,
I got crazy prius tho !!! 😁
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Nice foot bro
Crazy the carbon fiber looks great then that shitty leather wrapped door insert makes it look cheap.
Please use a respirator when cutting carbon. Little diamonds in your lungs are not just gonna go away. It‘s basically asbestos
Do you hate that calculator or something
As much as I love carbon fiber I think this is a little to much carbon fiber.
To match work
I found my doppelganger same bear feet does carbon fiber i even got those shorts and hat are you bad with grammar
it was not best way to do it... but still not bad.
Not everything has to be wrapped
how to fuk up this without sanding 1st layer... xd
Tires of videos and people just covering there shit I want a full carbon build 🙄
Lol no talk
Good. But not real carbon fiber
it's not a carbon fiber mold title says carbon fiber skinning. but that is in fact real carbon fiber
not much of a how to video, more like a look what i did video
I showed the step by step process, thanks for the feedback.
What a waste of carbon fiber you literally did not do any weight reduction you would have a better chance of making a mold of each side put a layer or 2 and mold than them both together for half the Weight
Nice Feet.
Fijn, alles zonder handschoentjes! Wat een beunhaas!🤦🏻♂️
Omg put it back to normal looks a bit tacky
bad quality carbon fiber skining technique
so many wrinkles
Just hydro dip
shit is fake ass fuck. u dont put that on a Z
@@j.a.3138 you can put whatever you want the car is yours
Definitely not how you do any of this you used all the wrong tools 😂