How to Make a Carbon Fiber Panel- Wet Lay Technique
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2021
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Thank you for the demonstration its clear and easy...no crazy music is also appreciated 😅
That, I think, is very much underrated. By the time the 'tutorial/ episode' is over, you so irritated by the (frequent) irritating music, that you do not want to watch it any more,or anything else on that channel.
Great video! Just a tip I've seen elsewhere for those cheap bristle brushes, if you super glue the bristles by the metal part you won't have any strands fall out anymore. Hope it helps!
Good Job AJ. Straight forward, no BS, no over the top technical tems, calm and well presented. Couldn't have done any better myself.
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I need a low seat back for my wheelchair...I am so going to have a go at this. The bought ones are £600! Awesome.
Bro, YOU ROCK, THANK YOU FOR BEING A FELLOW FABRICATOR. I FABRICATE MOTORCYCLE RACE FAIRING KITS. I CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TONYOUR SITE AND GET SOME TIPS AND IDEAS.
Thanks for explaining the "release". I knew there was a method to that part of the process no one else is explaining.
You are the best person I see on UA-cam other people never show any thing for no one can learn
Great video, very informative for beginners!
Awesome! Thanks so much for doing this. I don't do enough with CF to invest in the vacuum system, so this is kind of perfect.
You just earned a new subscriber for this. 👍🏽
Thanks for posting, great info
Nice. I might have to consider this for an undertray.
AJ, great vid and you made it not intimidating!!! Thanks for sharing and helping others....
wow, that underside looks amazing!
Awesome video, AJ. Going to be making a 3 layer sheet soon to cut into pieces and use to block off openings on the front bumper.
Very helpful videos and extremely informative!
Thank you! Glad it helped.
super helpful!
Gret tips for us car buffs that are not building F1 quality, nor need to! Thanks
thank you for video
This is great. You should consider putting a linear way guide on both sides of your table. You might even be able to get away with angle iron or a box tube. It will be faster and give you a nice straight edge without thinking. If you want you can even set it up with a CNC length input.
Straight forward I wish great success you are a good clean mind person first view and I subscribed
Dude, I’ve been waiting for this video for a while. Thanks for the info. I’ve been so scared to do it myself
Start small and learn from your mistakes. There will be many.
Looks to me like a kitchen roller, like you use for flattening dough would work well for this.
Awesome
Danke.!!
Can you do a skinning demo, small parts and trimming would be awesome
If you want to prevent the pin holes on the surface you can pre-wet the fabric before putting it on the surface.
I'm loving this channel and hatching a plan to start doing my own interior panels for my car's interior. I really think a matte finish would look even better however. I've just done some reading and seen people suggest either sanding the gloss finish back or applying a matte clear coat.
Do you have any go to methods for a matte or satin finish?
Very nice video very helpfull tks for posting it. You mentionned most of the time 3k is being used. If I want to cover an interior part of my car how many layer of 3k I should do? Tks
Very nice and informative AJ. Need to update your outro "Be sure to smash that notification bell, because subscriptions don't mean a thing" ;)
Cool
It's fantastic!
At the last step, you used a small roller to work out the air bubbles.
Would you kindly tell me what kind roller it is?
Does that roller have needles to pierce air bubbles?
Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Great primer AJ. I would love to see you expand on this, maybe a wet layup with foam core to add rigidity. Cheers mate
Literally the exact same steps, just a core in the middle.
When your doing it with the foam core do you weigh the core with the carbon?
@@briansexton6695 depends on the core.
@@ajhartmanaero what core would you recommend for a flat floor section?
@@briansexton6695 some sort of foam. Maybe a honeycomb would do well. Balsa wood is a decent cheap option. It’s really up to you.
Great video. However, I have a question, can you set screws into the epoxy/fiber to install onto aluminum parts? Or will the epoxy adhere to aluminum? I'm making a box for my H-D trike that looks like a 32 Ford coupe, but instead of a trunk or rumble seat, I'm doing an aluminum roll up door, like a roll top desk, and need a way to attach the frame without seeing the fasters. Thanks
Good video... I want to ask you a question?
you don't put any release agent on the glass?? before applying the resin?? greetings
Bro, you make this look so damn simple but I've had issues in the past. Granted my first attempt had crevices and bends but I was attempting to lay CF over a dash bezel. I failed lol
Thank you for the video. What kind of release agent did you use?
Very good vidéo Thank you ! How is joint between the layers ,strong or so so ? Can It be better by adding pressure instead of vacuum ?
Thank s
If you arent getting a good carbon-to-epoxy ratio doing wet layup then you simply need practice. Too many people use vacuum bagging as a crutch to being crappy at laminating. A good way to practice is laminate with fiberglass cloth. You will be better able to see sections that are too heavy or too light and with time develop a feel for it. When done right it should have a very consistent canvas like look.
Spasibo ! So cool technik 👍 I think it will be cool to put same mirror on top for over night.
Did the oven get out air bubbles? Ive heard of people using a heat gun or torch to get out bubbles. A close up of the finished product would have been cool. Fantastic video!
If you wanted the top side to have a glossy finish as well. Would you just use a non porous teflon coated peel ply on top?
Have you experimented with resins that come close to a heat source? Like a exhaust cover or a high heat area of the engine bay. If so can you recommend a resin what will handle those high heat cycles. Great vids!!
Yes, sort of. I have some intake tubes on the cold side of my turbos and intercooler end tanks. All done with basic epoxy. Never tinkered with specific high heat stuff tho.
so amazing the video is, can you do one for us?
good afternoon where do you purchase your carbon materials and I like the information abut the different grades of CARBON! I AM NEW TO THIS SO I AM LEARNING WOULD like to try this method to do a sheet of carbon to make a front spliter for my car!
What would you recommend for an outer shell (canopy) for an electric camper)?
Was curious. Are you using carbon that has a veil on the back of the carbon? It doesn’t look like it fray when you cut it. Great videos.
i build a lot of carbon wings for drag car always wet lay never vacuum bag. i clear gel first . everyone say we build the best carbon wing. do you ever use carbon with weave stabilization ? i like it for the first layer
This video from your old shop? Thanks for posting this... been wanting to try making a few panels.
New shop from last weekend.
Hey AJ, love your videos! For a DIY guy like myself, would you recommend doing wet lay with curved and more complex molds? Or at that point would pooling of the resin be too much of an issue affecting strength and weight.
its kinda hard to achieve perfect part without vacuum if the mold is too complex.
Wet lay on curved stuff, or anything with tight corners is a pain. I’d only try it if it was your only option.
A 1'' paint roller works best for a project like this.
So do you ever use prepreg material? I find it much easier to work with but it does have a short shelf life if you dont have a proper storage freezer
Aj good day i would like to make free diving fins for ocean diving please temm me what rasin to used epoxy or vinerlister rasin thank you
Wow way over a welders pay grade, I'll just buy parts of the internet... Good video.
New sub here! Do you know what the strength of that piece is? or a comparable to another type of lay up? Thank you.
Where do you recommend buying carbon sheets from? And do they sell them in 60” widths?
Please what can we use the carbon fiber for? Thank you
can I just using only PVA on to the mold/mirror?
I’m curious, would this technique work on an old claw foot tub, I wanna restore it but with a high tech flare.
where do you buy your carbon fiber rolls at?
I'm looking for information on doing a one piece front end
A close up would have been interesting
Hello is it okey to make a frontsplitter with a 10mm foamcore with these technik.
Just a quick question , can you just lay carbon fiber over a fiberglass hood and epoxy it to it ? Is this a form of wet lay .? Does it need to be 2 layers?
Awesome video AJ! I have a question for you, do you know how people lay two pieces of carbon fabric down lets say in the center of a hood for an example and get it perfectly straight?
I do. And funny enough, literally today am recording laying up a video where I have to put seam down the center of a hood. I will do a video specific on it in the near future.
@@ajhartmanaero Hahaha thats awesome! I am subbed can you let me know when its up please and thank you!
hey bro..I have problem with a little dent on surface of the sheet when it cure...why and how I can I avoid that problem?thank bro
Which epoxy from us composites this is?
Thanks for the video. Any problem with using a non shed mini roller for application of the epoxy? Come from a paint background and Wooster makes a nice 5/16 nap micro fiber roller that doesn’t shed and is not too expensive. Couple bucks a piece.
I’ve seen that method used but no personal experience.
🥂class thinks
Now I can build me a carbon fibre coffin hehehe
So no release on the mirror?
I’m looking to try do some car wheels Will sand blast it first and may add sand grit in the base coat to help stick Going to skin it and put in a vacuum pack to help stick. Have you seen anyone do this or know of any problems
Great info. What was the final thickness of that sheet using those two fabrics? How much will vacuum bagging change the final thickness?
About .040”. Vac will be about .035”. I get into vacuum bagging in the next one and will be up in a few days.
Hello, I am a follower of your channel, I want to learn how to make pieces, where do you buy your material, can you pass me the information, thank you
whats the exact reasoning on why mirrrors are used?
Trying to work out how to add a thread to carbon to screw a lid on ?
Do you make custom size panels? I am looking for a 6" x 36" x 1/8 inch panel or 2 x 3" x 36" x 1/8 panels.
Boss .What is the name of the liquid applied to it .Can you tell me .
Amiguito, que tal te salio de poros??
Good explanation. But when ever working with fiber fabrics you should use gloves when touching the fibercloth to prevent leaving grease from your hand on the cloth. It provides you with a better final product.
How greasy are your hands?
Really appreciate it bro.
Question
Does it need to degass the resin hardener epoxy?
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Do in need to put it in an oven to cure? Or ill set it for a 24 hours period of time?
@@ziegfredpanen6623 no to both. It can room temp cure.
No pressure is required for the penny roller.
Do you ever use lantor soric in wet lay? I’ve been playing with in on small pieces with some luck. Vacuum infusion is beyond my current level of patience
I’ve seen people use it with wet lay but personally have not. I only use it with infusions.
Only missing the thikness of the end product .
I’ve got some floor panels in my airplane that are roughly 1/4” thick plywood. I’d love to replace them with some carbon fiber panels.
Would a wet lay work well for a 1/4” thick panel?
Would I be better off to vacuum bag the panel?
Thanks
I’d use a core and vacuum bag.
@@ajhartmanaeroWhat would you suggest as core material?
AJ, it can be confusing when you speak of Tow size 4,6,10 k etc instead of aerial weight Oz/yd2 or gr/m2 to describe your CF fabrics
Hey, on a resin infusion for a new edge hood, how much epoxy do you use for the inside skin and outside skin? I’m about to make my first attempt and I’m worried I might not buy enough, although it’s expensive 😅
Ehhh depends on how you Kay it up but 4000 grams should be plenty
@@ajhartmanaero perfect, thank you!
Mad vid but can't you just use glass
Could you wet lay with a lantor soric core, and then add the vacuum pump to suck out exces resin?
There’s other cores more appropriate for that process.
@@ajhartmanaero ok. Which ones?
my epoxy resin write 1:1, can i mix 2:1 epoxy and harderner
why would you not mix it how the epoxy manufacturer suggests? Just follow what they say.
Not to sound like a Complainer, but should I have a auto body Respirator on when dealing with all of the Chemicals Involved.?
Polyester probably yeah. Epoxy, not really necessary.
I've worked with E-glass for decades, but with carbon fiber, it's not transparent when wetted out. So how do you know where the bubbles are that need stripling out to the sides?
Experience
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Very good it’s definitely an art to make parts lol. Tell people it’s best to use epoxy resin for carbon fibre weave and not the polyester resin with cat mix. That’s a pain
Thickness of this panel?
I don’t remember exactly. Maybe .030”? Video was just for a demo so didn’t use much material.
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Isn’t your epoxy mixed by volume and not by weight? Bit odd that you weigh it before it’s mixed.
It’s obviously mixed by weight if I use a scale.
@@ajhartmanaero I’ve never seen a epoxy mixed by weight, hence why I asked.
@@kizzjd9578 the nice thing about mixing by weight is you can reuse the cups with volume marks many times.
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3k?12k?
Whatever your heart desires. Process is the same.
Kinda like fiberglass work? Were can I can I get the CF
What is 3k?12k? As a total novice these terms are un understandable. Where would I find definitions to the jargon?
@@crawford323 the thickness of the carbon strands that make up the fabric.
@@ajhartmanaero Thank you very much for the professional reply. So many respond with rudeness or sarcasm.