Just bought the tfo 12 with the saltx 4000 based off your recommendation for my dad. Thanks for all the informative videos. Sending love from the ormond beach area. Hope he loves the setup as much as you do. Take care!
My favorite fishing kayak is a Tarpon 140. I also use 20# braid and have no problem reeling myself in on a snag. Boat weighs 75 lbs empty, so probably 300 with me and gear in it. Remember you don't have to lift the fish up out of the water with the line and rod.
20 lb imho i think minimum if your going after medium heavy to heavier fish like larger snook, redfish, black drum, Tarpon, Jacks, etc you prob could do more of a minimum 30-40 all the way up to 65lb maybe 80lb braid with a 6000, 8000 and even a 10k size reel especially if your going surf fishing. then using a 10-12ft surf rod with a 5k-8k size reel(making sure to matche the line rating of the reel to rod and if your using 40lb braid with a 6k reel make sure the line your using falls within that rating on the rod so it all flows well with each other. and then look at the rod and reel weight just so you gane make sure you can potentially get the lightest possible setup especially if your going to be casting Lures all day. If your going to be baiting and waiting then weight of overall setup doesnt necesarilly make a difference. people here in the northeast such as the cape code canal will use rods rated for 6-10oz lures and line ratings that arre similar to 20-50lb line and 11 or 12 ft rods that are heavy or extra heavy. So yes ive spent half my life down in florida fishing for everything from sheepshead to snook and smaller side of sharks all from a kayak. ii specifically use a 7.5ft medium heavy split grip spinning rod with a 3500bg with 25lb braid and 30, 50lb leader because its my style of fishing. then the other combo is my trolling behind kayak. Its a ugly stik lite conventional rod, forgot the reel at the time of this, spooled with 20-30lb mono with a leader of 40-60lb mono or fluoro leader to a TA clip 75lb or even the 125lb. but i think this video was very very helpful and understand these reviews and input made by you was your opinions and your suggestions that you found work for you and i really appreciate it.
Great video. Love your reviews. Looking to pick up either a Salt X, Slammer 4 DX or a Shimano Saragossa this weekend to match with my new 10’ Penn Battalion 2.
@@shep9879 I would up picking up the Slammer DX 6500 for my 10’ Penn Battalion and then picked up a Saragossa 10K matched up with an 11’ Dark Matter Cape Cod Canel rod, 4-10oz. Both are great reels, but the Seragosa is super smooth
Thanks for the excellent video as usual! I want to have a cart built over in Gulf Shores where I believe you got yours. What model or size should I ask for? I believe yours looks like it is a perfect size to haul in a Chevy Equinox
Beach Power Manufacturing built mine, but I don’t think they’re making any during the summer so they can focus on wheelchairs. I just have the regular size…you might wanna ask for the option to take off the wheels with a pin just in case it’s too wide for the Equinox
Curious. How does the TFO compare to the Bummy Stick? I know one is a 12 footer rated for heavier weight vs the 10 foot Bummy Stick. I’m looking for a good all around rod.
Hey Phil, this is Curtis from Orlando. I'm an avid surf fisherman and I watch your videos and enjoy them. Can you please send me contact info on the sandspike holders? I use the same sandspikes you use but have been unable to find holders that work with the balloon tires. I really would appreciate it. Keep the videos coming!
Beach Power Manufacturing made those sand spikes for me (you can find them on Facebook). Right now they are putting a pause on fishing products, but might make some sand spikes for you.
Ive been surf fishing for years, ive never heard of anyone using a 4k reel on a 12ft rod. Id definitely go 6k or 6.5k on a 12ft rod. If you’re talking van staal on a 12ft rod then a 250 would be perfect.
Do you use a fluorocarbon shock leader on your braid? Also will 20Ibs braid cut your finger when casting? I'm looking to make the switch from mono to braid but not completely sure how to approach it.
I have a vintage Penn 704 greenie and a vintage Penn 710 greenie. Best spinning reels ever made. They are both about 45 years old and will last another 40 years. The Penn Z reels are one of the best surf fishing reels ever made. I'm done buying Chinese garbage. I've had new chinese made Penn reels, okuma, quantum, Lew's, Abu Garcia, pflueger. All worthless garbage. They all crapped out within 2 to 3 seasons.
Hey Phil. Sent you an email . Be glad to build you a rod for free. You pay for components. I have tons of contacts. Try out some of my rigs. You'll never buy a factory rig again.
Have you built any casting rods for surf? I've got some surf 13xd with Akios 656s and I love them. Haven't found any blanks that fit the bill. I like Florida Surf Tackle rods, Carolina cast pro, AFAW. They'll throw 100 yards easy and have a soft tip for bite detection.
@@SaltSquatch yeah we have low relief beaches here in New Smyrna need to make 100 yard casts quite often. I was wondering if Richard had any blanks he's used that compare to the rods I listed. I haven't had any luck at Mudhole.
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Just bought the tfo 12 with the saltx 4000 based off your recommendation for my dad. Thanks for all the informative videos. Sending love from the ormond beach area. Hope he loves the setup as much as you do. Take care!
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I have aluminum sand spikes with PVC rod holders! Best of both worlds!
My favorite fishing kayak is a Tarpon 140. I also use 20# braid and have no problem reeling myself in on a snag.
Boat weighs 75 lbs empty, so probably 300 with me and gear in it.
Remember you don't have to lift the fish up out of the water with the line and rod.
Good quality gear Phil - nice review! I’ve recently added a few things to the arsenal that I’m exited to reveal.
Looking forward to seeing your new lineup!
bro wasted zero time, didnt use a corny youtube voice, got right to the point and gave sound advice. salute.
How much sinker weight do you use on the 12 foot rod?
Catfish rod 10ft to 9ft that saltwater rust resistant are perfect for big sharks in surf
20 lb imho i think minimum if your going after medium heavy to heavier fish like larger snook, redfish, black drum, Tarpon, Jacks, etc you prob could do more of a minimum 30-40 all the way up to 65lb maybe 80lb braid with a 6000, 8000 and even a 10k size reel especially if your going surf fishing. then using a 10-12ft surf rod with a 5k-8k size reel(making sure to matche the line rating of the reel to rod and if your using 40lb braid with a 6k reel make sure the line your using falls within that rating on the rod so it all flows well with each other. and then look at the rod and reel weight just so you gane make sure you can potentially get the lightest possible setup especially if your going to be casting Lures all day. If your going to be baiting and waiting then weight of overall setup doesnt necesarilly make a difference. people here in the northeast such as the cape code canal will use rods rated for 6-10oz lures and line ratings that arre similar to 20-50lb line and 11 or 12 ft rods that are heavy or extra heavy. So yes ive spent half my life down in florida fishing for everything from sheepshead to snook and smaller side of sharks all from a kayak. ii specifically use a 7.5ft medium heavy split grip spinning rod with a 3500bg with 25lb braid and 30, 50lb leader because its my style of fishing. then the other combo is my trolling behind kayak. Its a ugly stik lite conventional rod, forgot the reel at the time of this, spooled with 20-30lb mono with a leader of 40-60lb mono or fluoro leader to a TA clip 75lb or even the 125lb. but i think this video was very very helpful and understand these reviews and input made by you was your opinions and your suggestions that you found work for you and i really appreciate it.
Great video. Love your reviews.
Looking to pick up either a Salt X, Slammer 4 DX or a Shimano Saragossa this weekend to match with my new 10’ Penn Battalion 2.
What size reel ?
@@shep9879 I would up picking up the Slammer DX 6500 for my 10’ Penn Battalion and then picked up a Saragossa 10K matched up with an 11’ Dark Matter Cape Cod Canel rod, 4-10oz.
Both are great reels, but the Seragosa is super smooth
Thanks for the excellent video as usual! I want to have a cart built over in Gulf Shores where I believe you got yours. What model or size should I ask for? I believe yours looks like it is a perfect size to haul in a Chevy Equinox
Beach Power Manufacturing built mine, but I don’t think they’re making any during the summer so they can focus on wheelchairs. I just have the regular size…you might wanna ask for the option to take off the wheels with a pin just in case it’s too wide for the Equinox
@@SaltSquatch thank you sir! Excellent idea about the pinned axle. That would be ideal I believe in my case
I’ve learned the hard way about that with an SUV
Curious. How does the TFO compare to the Bummy Stick? I know one is a 12 footer rated for heavier weight vs the 10 foot Bummy Stick. I’m looking for a good all around rod.
No more than 20#? What happens when you hook up with a shark?
Does someone make that attachment for your cart that hold the sand spikes on the side ?
Yes, it’s actually welded onto the cart. The same local guys who made my cart built that attachment
Hey Phil, this is Curtis from Orlando. I'm an avid surf fisherman and I watch your videos and enjoy them. Can you please send me contact info on the sandspike holders? I use the same sandspikes you use but have been unable to find holders that work with the balloon tires. I really would appreciate it. Keep the videos coming!
Beach Power Manufacturing made those sand spikes for me (you can find them on Facebook). Right now they are putting a pause on fishing products, but might make some sand spikes for you.
Ive been surf fishing for years, ive never heard of anyone using a 4k reel on a 12ft rod.
Id definitely go 6k or 6.5k on a 12ft rod. If you’re talking van staal on a 12ft rod then a 250 would be perfect.
Talk to Frisky about that blank. He can fine it.
Thanks! I need to ask him about that!
Do you use a shock leader with the 20lb main braid?
No shock leader, I tie straight to my leader
@@SaltSquatch thanks
Do you use a fluorocarbon shock leader on your braid? Also will 20Ibs braid cut your finger when casting? I'm looking to make the switch from mono to braid but not completely sure how to approach it.
Likely. Go 30 at minimum or you’ll need gloves after lots of casts
I have a vintage Penn 704 greenie and a vintage Penn 710 greenie. Best spinning reels ever made. They are both about 45 years old and will last another 40 years. The Penn Z reels are one of the best surf fishing reels ever made. I'm done buying Chinese garbage. I've had new chinese made Penn reels, okuma, quantum, Lew's, Abu Garcia, pflueger. All worthless garbage. They all crapped out within 2 to 3 seasons.
I agree the old American made reels were built to last. Wish they still made them like that
Still have a Greenie 706. Build like a tank.
Hey Phil. Sent you an email . Be glad to build you a rod for free. You pay for components. I have tons of contacts. Try out some of my rigs. You'll never buy a factory rig again.
Thanks, Richard! What email did you send it to? Can’t find it in my inbox
Have you built any casting rods for surf? I've got some surf 13xd with Akios 656s and I love them. Haven't found any blanks that fit the bill. I like Florida Surf Tackle rods, Carolina cast pro, AFAW. They'll throw 100 yards easy and have a soft tip for bite detection.
I’ve never used surf casting rods. Along the Gulf Coast we don’t have to cast as far to get to the fish, so spinning tackle does the job great.
@@SaltSquatch yeah we have low relief beaches here in New Smyrna need to make 100 yard casts quite often.
I was wondering if Richard had any blanks he's used that compare to the rods I listed. I haven't had any luck at Mudhole.
My 12’ TFO’s have some serious backbone for casting and can get to 100 yards no problem