The Flying Kraken! Phoibos Eagle Ray GMT Review PX023D

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024

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  • @shaneweightman
    @shaneweightman 4 роки тому +8

    Very nice , being quartz , bonus super accurate , lighter , thinner ,, winner all the way , thanks Shane uk 🇬🇧

  • @chrisb5986
    @chrisb5986 4 роки тому +10

    Orient Polaris GMT. In-house automatic GMT, that is gorgeous. $370 all day.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      I always forget about that one. I have to go back and watch a review. I know Dave @justthewatch did a good one.

  • @gimbydude491
    @gimbydude491 4 роки тому +3

    You have the best camera work hands down dude. Love your vids and vibe. Like the watch too, especially on your strap choices, which is another area you are king. Have a great Christmas!!

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Thank you! have a Merry Christmas!

  • @HRradness
    @HRradness 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks Shane. Like I said I was looking for a GMT and now I found it.

  • @JusttheWatch
    @JusttheWatch 4 роки тому +3

    I had an Aragon GMT that had this same movement in it. The free adjusting GMT hand really annoyed me every time I tried to change the timezone. I almost always felt like it was slightly out of alignment with the main hour hand. Other than that, it's a great looking watch!

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      I know what you mean. I feel like I have to set the time to the nearest hour before setting the gmt. Just to make sure it's all lined up, then go back and reset the time.

  • @NonyaDamnbusiness
    @NonyaDamnbusiness 4 роки тому +1

    I've got a Nighthawk I've been dragging around the planet for years.
    I usually just set the GMT time to local home time or HQs Rear-D time and then when I'm on the plane I just pop out the crown to the second position to move the hour hand around to local time wherever I am.
    Bouncing back and forth between Germany and the Middle East for a few years, that function came in handy.
    Frequent timezone hoppers should always look for an independently-set hour hand in an "analog" GMT watch, it's just going to make your life easier.
    That being said, can't find myself travelling too much with the Phoibos just because once you have the GMT and time set, once you take off in the plane and want to set the watch to your new local you wind up first having to set the hour & minute hands to the new timezone while remembering *exactly* where in-between the hour markers on the dial the GMT hand was and then you have to either reset the GMT hand back to where it was originally or moving the inner bezel so it's back to where it was. Too fiddly.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I think the only quartz GMT I've seen where you adjust the hour hand (not the GMT) is a Seiko Kinetic. Although I don't remember if the date was linked to the hour hand or the GMT.

  • @watchalot919
    @watchalot919 3 роки тому

    Everyone needs a quartz in their collection, and this one is difficult to beat. I have the green one, and it's gorgeous

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  3 роки тому +1

      I'm still surprised they haven't got more in stock. These sold out so quickly you think they would of tried to get some in as soon as possible.

  • @mrbacchus6127
    @mrbacchus6127 4 роки тому +2

    I like your review style, chill and laid back. This Phoibos is a likely buy for me.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Thanks. I try not to be over the top, and just get to the point about describing it.

  • @bastieniezzi6539
    @bastieniezzi6539 4 роки тому +1

    Love it, the perfect travel watch. Screw down crowns, multiple time zones, dressy enough to go out to dinner, tough enough to swim & hike, and if something happens you are only out $200. Great review as always, thanks.👍

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      Exactly. I love my glycine airman, but if something happens to it that's $600 to replace it.

  • @kndvds1492
    @kndvds1492 2 роки тому

    Love it. I just wish they would have went with a 715 instead of the 515, and charged $20 more.

  • @vargusalex
    @vargusalex 4 роки тому

    I really like this watch and I am thinking of getting one. Another watch that is an alternative to this would be the Richard LeGrand Atlanticus diver. It is very similar and has the seiko nh35 movement.

  • @andresgonzalezcerda7635
    @andresgonzalezcerda7635 2 роки тому

    Great review. Still looking for a gmt with day date…
    At last for me ,was much useful a 12 hr rotating bezel, with any nh36. ( day date)
    But this thinner case got my attention.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  2 роки тому

      Off the top of my head I can't think of a GMT with a day date. Everyone seems to be excited about the new Seiko 5 version that's coming, but it's still just a date.

  • @darrensmith6999
    @darrensmith6999 4 роки тому

    Just Pulled the Trigger on this one (: Well it is Christmas.
    Great Revue Shane ,Thank You.
    Have a Great Christmas And a Happy New Year.
    Darren , Northumberland Britain.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Merry Christmas. Hope you enjoy it.

  • @georgegarcia566
    @georgegarcia566 4 роки тому

    Excellent camera work

  • @VersedNJ
    @VersedNJ 4 роки тому +1

    Hear good things Phoibos watch . it's a quartz and keeps good time. RIght now may want to get a Great Wall good value and don't have to buy direct and go with Long Island Watch, which has support and is an AD. Have a simple Phibos 300 meter quuartz. Good watch but put it in with watches I palm tp sell, but may keep it because it's inexpensive and sells for $119.00 and well worth the price. Why would I care if you make a commission, even better if I save a few bucks, You work hard making your video and good you get a taste.
    I have a Nighthawk and Blue Angel, a bitch to set up, planning on selling the nighthawk since I just got a G-Shock GBW-2000, easier to set, and has a BT phone connection, it's one of their higher end pieces, cheapest of their better line, and like the dial and no LCD which I have trouble reading and comes on a fantastic band. Got it off and AD for a fair price, actually the same or cheaper than an EBAY cost, which any benefit would be hit on sales tax.
    I do buy my Glycines from Ebay from an AD, price is mostly as good. In the same state NJ which means quick shipping on the free slowest route. I have called them with a problem and they were more then happy to help.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      If you buy direct it might take longer too coming from Hong Kong. So that's another positive with Long Island. So far I've only bought one thing from there, but Mark seems like a stand up guy.
      Some people care about the affiliate stuff, and others don't. So it just seems like the best way to do it is just to say it exists. Just like if someone sends you a watch, instead of buying it.
      Although I have to say that from watching other channels it does get redundant when the host always goes into a 30 second tangent about that and how it won't effect their opinion.

  • @nrs6956
    @nrs6956 4 роки тому

    A good review. Thank you. Your choice of bands gives a boost to the watch. Like much of the "Phoibos" but a quartz? Usually live life on the edge of battery replacement. For the value the watch appears quite a buy. Would appreciate an auto. The Seiko NH35a should not add that much to price. My Invicta costed less than $100.00 with that movement.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      These guys contacted me a while ago asking if they could send me a watch to review. Haven't heard from them in a month, but it's another interesting take.
      www.crestical.com/
      Horrible name, but what's interesting is they were listing one of the movement options as a Seiko Kinetic. Which is the first time I've seen a kinetic outside Seiko.

  • @josepha5
    @josepha5 3 роки тому

    Great channel, great content. Have a nice holiday

  • @lucschrder6821
    @lucschrder6821 4 роки тому +2

    Soon there will be the Straton Tourer GMT. Preorder are still on. Got one :)

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +2

      I haven't seen that one before. Pretty good looking dial. Plus a Super Engineer bracelet. 👍

    • @surfitli
      @surfitli 4 роки тому

      Luc Schroeder I saw that. Really nice. However,I went for the 9015 Version. I’m not familiar with Swisstech.

  • @peternic1
    @peternic1 4 роки тому

    Seems like an excellent watch for the price point, although I'm really not a fan of the hands. I must say though Shane, I'm more interested in the review of the Nodus on your wrist!!

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      Soon-ish. I bought it so no rush to ship it off to someone else. So taking my time with it since I think they have all sold out by now. Plus I'm actually still trying to figure out how I feel about it.
      Fantastic design, and really good build quality. But a little disappointed in the internal bezel action and the lume.
      Yet I've had it for a month and still keep reaching for it to wear. Looks great and nice and very comfortable. Which I guess is the most important thing.

  • @maidpretty
    @maidpretty 4 роки тому

    Damn it, the watch bug bit me with "hey, you don't have a proper GMT and this one looks nice", so I ordered the blueish dial version (with your code). Tried Citizen Nighthawk - it feels a bit bulky and I don't like the dial - there's too much going on. Also, I think for a travel/tool watch being quartz is a good thing.

  • @hoemuffin
    @hoemuffin 4 роки тому

    This was my first Phoibos, and it fits an excellent slot for me. It's a cheap, reliable travel watch that I won't sweat over if it gets banged up or stolen. The Phoibos is well finished for the price point - you won't mistake it for a 5,000 watch, but it certainly never feels cheap. Though I agree with the mirror finish back, I would have preferred the Kraken. I love their logo, and the fact that it is thinner is a big selling point for me. I wear dress shirts and suits a lot, which is why I've tended to avoid divers - they're just too bulky for my liking most of the time.
    I used to have a more expansive mechanical collection with all sorts of complications, but I have since pared it down to my Rolex GMT Master II. If I ever get back into mechanicals again, I'm sticking with time only - several months for a service is just wild. A GMT Quartz is a fantastic idea, though I do wish the movement had a low battery/End of life indicator like my Casio Oceanus.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I would love to see this as a solar or Kinetic type watch as well. But I'm not sure if Citizen or Seiko sell those movements to 3rd parties. Would be great if they did.

    • @hoemuffin
      @hoemuffin 4 роки тому

      @@RelativeTime Yeah, I'm not sure if I've ever seen a microbrand with Solar - not sure if you've ever had a chance to look at the Casio Oceanus line, but I am just absolutely blown away at its finish and all the tech it has. The second hand there autocorrects itself so its always hitting the marks.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      @@hoemuffin really! It's been on my list of watches to check out. Might have to bump it up.

    • @hoemuffin
      @hoemuffin 4 роки тому

      @@RelativeTime Yeah, I picked up the simple 3 hand version (OCW-T200S) in sky blue, it was such an unusual color. I actually like the way it handles Bluetooth connectivity - just syncs for time, and you can adjust features via your phone. No notifications and all that jazz, plus it is entirely optional. Finishing is excellent; it is a watch that (IMO) punches way above its price point.

  • @andrei-cosmin.popa85
    @andrei-cosmin.popa85 4 роки тому

    Love the gilt details on black dial, but those baton markers, they seem to be misaligned?

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Might be the camera angle, or maybe the crystal distortion. Honestly I'm not sure. Every once in a while I looked at it and something looks a little off. So I did try taking a closer look. Rotating it at different angles, and breaking out a ruler to check. Everything seems to line up, so I just assumed the crystal was playing tricks.

  • @bifflee3603
    @bifflee3603 4 роки тому

    Have you seen the oceanic seahorse super compressor? Kickstarter ended a month ago and I backed it - looks good with an automatic movement

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I must of missed that one. Just checked it out and looks pretty good.

  • @MattBrandon
    @MattBrandon 4 роки тому

    Great review. I am looking hard for a budget travel watch and this ticks many of the boxes. You mention at 9:50 as did one other reviewer that because of the independent GMT hand you can track three timezones. Without having a 24 hrs chapter ring or additional 24hr indices on the dial, how would you accomplish that?

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Thank you.
      I did a short video on the basics of how to use a GMT here.
      ua-cam.com/video/7jDZq1I7HoA/v-deo.html
      But I think your asking something more specific. On how do you read that other time zone if the indicators are adjusted... short answer a little bit of mental gymnastics.
      Most GMTs don't have a secondary 24 hour indicators, it's usually in the bezel. Think of the Rolex GMT Master II, which many people base their designs on. I think my Glycine airman (which I use in the video) might be the exception to that.
      So for an example lets say it's Christmas morning (Merry Christmas by the way), and I live in Dallas, and my brother is in the East Coast (+1 hrs). Yet I also have some friends on the West Coast (-2 hrs).
      So I leave the main time to my time, just so I can use it as normal. Then I adjust the GMT hand ahead one hour for my brother. Which is then followed by moving the bezel back 3 for my friends. It's back 3 because it's in relation to the GMT hand, not mine. So it should be sitting at the 21 mark.
      So for time 1 (me) just read the hour hand as your normally would, 9:45am. For time 3 (my friends) I would read the GMT hand in relation to the now rotated bezel, 7:45am.
      Time 2 (my brother) is a little tricky because of that rotated bezel. So you instead read in in relation to the regular indicators and multiple by 2. But you have to take the halfway point into account between those indicators. So here it's past the 5, but not quite halfway point between it and the 6. So 5 x 2 = 10, 10:45. Yet once it gets to that halfway point it would then be 5.5 x 2 = 11, 11:00 am.
      It's a little trickier but you can do it with some practice. Yet it's almost as easy to say "Hey Siri, whats the time in...."

  • @thenexthobby
    @thenexthobby 4 роки тому

    Nice watch. But all of the style cues remind me of the old joke about feature-laden software, that when you keep updating versions eventually it'll also do email (or something else it doesn't need to be doing.)

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Could be worse. Actually just got another quartz GMT with an internal bezel. Except for this one also has a secondary external bezel. Kind of gimmicky, although it might be as useful as a slide rule these days. Interesting thing about it is that it also came with a Seiko Kinetic movement.

  • @Trex100
    @Trex100 4 роки тому

    It works for me.

  • @Rick-ve5lx
    @Rick-ve5lx 4 роки тому

    I got mine but the hands are not quite aligned, the minute hand says six mins past when hour hand lines up dead centre with hour. A bit disappointed so I’m wondering whether to send it back or am I being too critical?

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      If it was within a min, I'd probably ignore it. Yet 6 min it's pretty bad. I'd probably look into returning it at that point. Although If you are looking to exchange it for another you might not be able to. I think they are all sold out at this point.
      Supposedly they won't be getting anymore for a while. Someone on the Phoibos Facebook group said it won't be re-stocked this year. Which seems like a long time, but who knows.
      Is it consistently like that as it goes around the dial?

    • @Rick-ve5lx
      @Rick-ve5lx 4 роки тому

      It’s the same for each hour. At midnight you can see the hands don’t quite align. I’ve decided to keep it, it’s not noticeable except on the hour and the rest of the watch is good. Thanks for the “relativetime” discount.

  • @colddeadhands7202
    @colddeadhands7202 3 роки тому

    Cool looking watch at a good price.
    Gold or Red ?

  • @perfectwatchquest3091
    @perfectwatchquest3091 4 роки тому

    I liked these color you reviewed... I'm thinking about this one now! Thanks!

  • @JJexciter
    @JJexciter 4 роки тому

    Thanks for another great video and an extra thanks for showing the watch on some many different straps! Greatly appreciate that! 👍

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      Its really the best way to see how it looks.

  • @jasons6344
    @jasons6344 4 роки тому

    Once again a great review. Good looking watch with different straps. Thanks for helping me learn and Merry Christmas Shane!

  • @surfitli
    @surfitli 4 роки тому

    Very nice review. I got the Black/White. It’s really nice for the price.
    I agree the Roman numerals are not necessary.
    Personally, I would rather have a GMT that adjusts like this as opposed to a jump GMT. It it’s not aligned with a jump hand you can’t do anything about it. Wit this you can get it where you want it.
    There is a interesting Quartz GMT from Trintec, the Co-pilot GMT. Saw it for a little over $300. Has the 515.24H. Has a nice pilot/diver hybrid build and 200m wr.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I might have to check that out. A random Chinese company sent me another GMT to check out. It's a little big, but the interesting thing is that it uses a Seiko Kinetic movement. I think this is the first time I've seen a Kinetic outside a Seiko.
      Has a strange name though.
      www.crestical.com/
      That's the kind of name they come up with for new medication. That you usually hear about from a tv commercial.

  • @csharpewalls
    @csharpewalls 4 роки тому

    Nice, well since I have three Phoibos watches, somehow I think I’m going to have a fourth.🤩

  • @FitOutPost
    @FitOutPost 4 роки тому +1

    Good time piece, but I'm not a fan of this hands set. Thanks for sharing.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Phoibos seems to be using a lot of syringe hands.

  • @davidmckenna1549
    @davidmckenna1549 4 роки тому

    In terms of build quality, how does this Phoibos compare with the new Seiko 5 line?

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      I'd say they are pretty close to each other, this specific Phoibos might be a little ahead but not by much. With the Eagle Ray GMT you are getting Sapphire crystal, yet you are also getting a snap on caseback.

    • @davidmckenna1549
      @davidmckenna1549 4 роки тому

      @@RelativeTime, thanks very much, the snap on caseback for me is a deal breaker.

  • @xPennybagsx
    @xPennybagsx 4 роки тому

    Bro I've been looking at this exactly piece... Clutch review... You da real MVP

  • @lesterlau
    @lesterlau 4 роки тому

    Waiting for mine to arrive - great review!

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Which one did you get?

    • @lesterlau
      @lesterlau 4 роки тому

      @@RelativeTime I went with the green version, as I didn't have a green watch in my collection yet. I really dig the dial on this piece, as well as the under 42mm size. Nothing wrong with quartz in my opinion! I've also got the Blue Angels Citizen Nighthawk and love it to bits, but this Phoibos is an entirely different aesthetic, and is probably more durable with its sapphire glass.
      Thanks for all the work you put into this channel - keep up the good work!

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      @@lesterlau thanks. This one was fun to shoot. I've been trying to save time by limit how mybself to 2-3 different straps and only 2 timelapses. But this one couldn't help myself. I think I did 6 or so timelapses.

  • @gaylemcgee2221
    @gaylemcgee2221 4 роки тому

    This is a beautiful time piece. I really want to buy a Phoibos watch and the one with the gold numbers is one that catches my eyes. It looks nice with the green and blue straps as well. I like the green dial also. I was wondering how the Citizen's watch compares to the Phoibos since they are similar. Have you done a video on the two? Thx for your videos.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I've looked at the nighthawk a lot, but never got one. The seem to be about the same size, just very different styles.

  • @77cjam
    @77cjam 4 роки тому

    You should add a G-Shock square to your collection mate. Perhaps a GW-5610. Positive display, multiband 6, tough solar, great size, rock solid and cheap. Pretty sure you wouldn't be disappointed

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I think that would be the g-shock I would get. A lot of the others just seem too big.

  • @internettroll7497
    @internettroll7497 4 роки тому

    Cool watch. Quartz doesnt seem to be a deal breaker for this price . The design is so beautiful. Feel like it would look much better on a bracelet. Nice review 👽🤘

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      So far thats the one thing I haven't tried with it. Most of the spare bracelets I have are 22mm. Although i do have a shark mesh at 20. Might have to give that a shot.

  • @destructoooo
    @destructoooo 2 роки тому

    What's the weight of this watch?

  • @phil726
    @phil726 4 роки тому

    Looks stunning 👍👍

  • @adrienne4934
    @adrienne4934 4 роки тому

    Waiting for mine to arrive, also. Thanks!

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      Which one did you get?

    • @adrienne4934
      @adrienne4934 4 роки тому

      The black dial with white. I wanted the one you you showed here, but already sold out last week.

    • @adrienne4934
      @adrienne4934 4 роки тому

      UPDATE: The lume as you speculated on the black\white dial, is brighter. This is a well done gmt for the money.

    • @Rick-ve5lx
      @Rick-ve5lx 4 роки тому +1

      Joe Ross
      I saw this one was sold out in Europe so I ordered from Hong Kong using the “relativetime” code which got me $20 off the price.

  • @jacklaporte472
    @jacklaporte472 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the review Shane. Really appreciate the perspective. Up next.....the Duality?

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      Well it will be soon...ish. I bought it, so I'm not in any rush to ship it off to anyone and taking my time. Plus I think they are already sold out.
      That and after a month I'm still trying to make up my mind about it. Beautiful design, and mostly well made, yet a few things that wound up disappointing me. Namely the internal bezel action is gritty at times, and the lume is just ok. For the price they should of been better.
      Yet I do love how it looks, and frequently wear it. In fact I'm wearing it right now on a Barton silicone strap.

    • @jacklaporte472
      @jacklaporte472 4 роки тому

      Relative Time I appreciate the honesty. I’m kinda happy I didn’t get one now. Safe to say in relation to price the Eagle Ray GMT is a better purchase then?

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      @@jacklaporte472 it definitely has more value. Yet that's the question I'm still having a hard time answering with the duality.
      Other than the bezel it's really well done with lots of great details.

  • @WizardWatch
    @WizardWatch 4 роки тому

    I also Reviewed the same model ... I think is beautiful watch !Definitely a keeper :)

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      It really is. I'll check out your review.

  • @dparis2172
    @dparis2172 4 роки тому

    I spy a new Dan Henry 1970 40mm... 😃

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      Yup!
      instagram.com/p/B6HC0EZnubD/
      Not entirely sure when I'll get to it. Was sort of an impulse purchase.

    • @dparis2172
      @dparis2172 4 роки тому +1

      Another great capture of what I think is a super watch. I appreciate how you will sometimes seek out the less conventional color ways of a particular release (e.g. this DH, the Seiko rootbeer bottle cap). As soon as I saw that 40mm 1970's were available again, I jumped on a W&W edition. Such are the looks, fit and value of this line, that I would consider buying a second one in a different color.

  • @danielq.4371
    @danielq.4371 4 роки тому

    What's your wrist size??

  • @danielq.4371
    @danielq.4371 4 роки тому

    This is definitely a looker. I usually hate the logo of this company but with watch it looks amazing. You would think the black and white one would look better than this one but its lacks character.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I felt the same way. I was tempted to ask for one of the color gradient dials. Like the green or red, but something about this gilt one just felt right.

  • @charliedoyle118
    @charliedoyle118 4 роки тому

    Those Roman numerals have to go. Otherwise, nice watch.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      It's pretty hard to tell where the 1 is on the chapter ring. It just blends right in.

  • @violinmke
    @violinmke 4 роки тому

    Dec 24 you should just wear an xmas sweater and read us Twas The night before Xmas since your voice is so pleasant.

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I've thought about it. I'll see if I have time to do that, but might be tricky with family coming.

  • @TinBin-Craig
    @TinBin-Craig 4 роки тому

    very nice.. i do like for the price cheers

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому

      I nit picked a few things, but overall it's pretty good.

  • @rumatadestora
    @rumatadestora 4 роки тому

    Sorry, but a quartz diver is a joke

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +2

      Is that because you potential reduced the water resistance when you swap the battery? Or is there another reason?

    • @rumatadestora
      @rumatadestora 4 роки тому +1

      @@RelativeTime yes, exactly. In my region it is almost impossible to find a watchmaster who has the necessary exuipment and skill to change the battery and keep the watch watertight after that

    • @RelativeTime
      @RelativeTime  4 роки тому +1

      Perfectly understandable. I would really like to see a solar or kinetic version of this as well. But I'm not sure if Seiko or Citizen sells thoughts movements to Microbrands.