The Timeline of Events Leading to CPS According to This Mad Mama | RECAP
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- This Mad Mama returned with an update about HOW she surrendered her kids to CPS -- it's exactly what we feared.
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Why do ppl air out all their dirty laundry online? I could never! My privacy is golden to me
@@gia9298. I have no idea
It's crazy to me as well. In this case, she provided the authorities with the evidence of her own neglect because she recorded it all. I don't like child exploitation, so having it on film is a double-edged sword because the kids were suffering without their most basic needs met. I hope that they sever her parental rights and that good long term foster carers or families wanting to adopt kids open their homes to them. Also that the the new families they are with do everything they can to keep the siblings in contact with each other. It's not easy taking in children who have lived this kind of life, I know this because I was a teacher and single foster Mum which started when I was asked if I could take a 7 year old who went to the school I taught at over the summer/Christmas holidays which ended up being a two year placement. There are a lot of foster parents who are good people wanting to love and nurture all children in their care, but as we know, there are always those who do it for the money. In my country you don't even get enough for food, clothes medical care/ongoing medical needs nevermind swimming lessons or other after school/weekend activities so you don't make money from fostering if you are giving a child all they need. I think that you must get more in America but it should never be a reason to take in a child.
Right? So weird!
I personally couldn't, it's bad enough dealing with it in private, let alone millions of strangers commenting what they think 😢😅
@@gia9298. when you figure that out, let us know I have no idea why people air they dirty a lot out on social media
I feel like she found out what dirtbag was possibly doing to her kid and tried to off herself but it didn’t work and she’s making it look like an accident
Thats my theory too.
I don't know, normally when people use Tylenol like this, it's often a cry for help more than a serious attempt. The problem is, well, Tylenol is really hard on your liver. I have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and I can't take it because it is so hard on your liver. I wouldn't be shocked if she actually did require a lover transplant
@@carlycrays2831 may I ask how you got nafl?
@@927candace
From what I understand--
(from a person whom I believe to be her daughter & one of the victims)
--this scumbag knew what the PDF File was doing to her kids, for YEARS.
If she knew & allowed it to happen, then I hope she gets exactly what she deserves.
She's been knew bc Victoria is one of his victims and she stayed quiet Abt it
guilty people are always so defensive, she acts like the state of her house is okay? no running water, trash everywhere? that is a reason CPS will take kids, she tried to off herself, CPS goes to the house sees the filth they live in and takes them for their safety on top of the father being a csa
All of this. I don't think she's capable of comprehending that, though.
@@cursedreact it's massive denial/everyone else's fault. I know someone who was ordered to clean their home because of the kids...she moaned it was everyone else's fault but her and her husband......poor kids 😢
I agree. And also not getting treatment for poor Donnie
The filth, the unaliving attempt, the medical issues which will arise from the unaliving attempt, her husband SAing those kids and her letting him stay in the house, her not getting CANCER treatment for her son...
I understand she may be having problems, but her first priority should be the kids. Not who she can find to have adult fun with. Sorry she has failed these kids. My heart is with the kids
I agree. She has her priorities mixed up
@@cursedreactshould state I absolutely agree w this though
I could care less about her "problems".
This monster has birthed 12 children it cannot/will not take care of,
has neglected & abused them,
medically neglected a *_CHILD WITH CANCER,_*
allowed them to be SAd,
& prioritized finding "men", over the children.
I don't give half a damn about a monster & it's problems.
In my opinion.
I have seen so many comments of people asking why the older kids can't take care of the younger ones. Ummm how about it's not their job?! That's been bothering the most.
THIS. Parentifying your child is a form of abuse! A teenager shouldn't be expected to babysit 9 siblings for FIFTEEN DAYS! People are nuts.
@@cursedreact I'm dealing with a situation now where the oldest is 12 years old and she has 7 younger siblings. She is completely parentified and it's caused her a lot of issues.
@@kristyrussell5493 oh my gosh, 12 is so young! That poor girl. Sending you guys lots of supportive energy and prayers.
@@cursedreact thank you! 💖
Given their education level and own trauma, I just fail to see how well this would work even if they wanted to
This should have been done over 2 years ago that house was horrendous and SHAME on alisha dougherty she KNEW this family and had them on her chan el several times.... SHE should be next on cps list...
@SevenDeadlyChins7 Alicia is just as bad but has a lot of people fooled. Let's hope that she is the next one to be held accountable for the kids sake.
Ok... So she's in so much pain that she OD's on tylenol and is completely out of it and hallucinating, but is well enough to go hang out with her new boyfriend? Then gets bent out of shape when CPS shows up to her dilapidated house full of kids with no food or water being run by an overwhelmed kidult? This whole situation is super fishy. There's a whole lot that she is not saying. These kids are way better off in foster care for now, getting proper care until she can possibly get her life together.
@@iseleyan8301 I agree. She's not being completely honest about what happened.
Who has a family of children and only buys enough groceries for 2 meals at a time? It’s summer the kids are home from school they’re gonna eat that in a few hours. So sad, those kids have been through so much it breaks my heart!
A monster.
That's WHAT, not who. 💔
Wait.. she said she had no money to send for food. But had money to send for the water bill.. makes no sense 😕
I feel her reaction to the water bill suggests she's gone a lot...and it's kinda of wild her friend is watching M and she thinks she can call her friend and tell her how to care for her kid. A week or a year that's on the person caring for M not the mom who doesn't have custody. They seized their opportunity.
@@stephanielott554 yep. I agree. She's too casual about the bill and using Adam for childcare in general.
Sounds like she left the kids for days while visiting boyfriend and being hospitalized. The timeline helps but she should know better.
Yep! Especially with CPS on her ass already.
By her timeline she has not been able to care for the children for about 15 days. As a parent you need to have a plan in place with that many children and an 18 year old isn’t it.
@@btoyou absolutely. She's parentified those kids so much she doesn't seem to understand that the rest of society frowns on this. It's considered abuse.
@@btoyou Hell putting that many kids including a small child with cancer on any one person would be too much. Especially their 18 year old sibling. Add to that not being left with extra money and food that would be so overwhelming.
@@WitchHazel13 agree
Thank you for explaining all of this! I think it is a good thing that CPS is involved. Veronica needs to take parenting classes before she gets her children back. There is no good reason to not have a fully stocked pantry when you have food stamps to cover the cost of food. Never once does she mention how hard this must be for all of her children to be in foster care. This is a tragic situation. 💔
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I hope she doesn’t get her children back. This mother should not have children. She’s insane and neglectful. The older children should not be left at home to take care of all of those younger siblings constantly. They have lives too and need to be focused on themselves. Their house is also not suitable for 12 people to live in.
This monster should NEVER get those poor children back.
I hope it never does & I pray that it is sterile from hereonout.
In my opinion.
I didn't even think about that fact that she was gallivanting with her bf right before she knew donnie was going to be taken 🥺🥺 that poor baby. I hope these kids thrive in foster care. I know its not likely but hopefully its better than what they've grown up with
Yeah when I realized it shifted my perspective A LOT.
I just think she doesn't know how to handle being an adult and her way of coping is denial
That's probably the reason she went for a date, she wanted escape. Maybe was relieved they will take children for a couple of weeks. But then realized it will be hard to have them back and freaked out
You where the first place I came when I saw all this going down on TikTok and you did not disappoint
Thank you 🙏
SAME
Just a detail but it seems very odd that she would visit her new boyfriend shortly after getting her wisdom teeth pulled while being in unbearable pain. It's a long drive and also kind of a lot that early in the relationship. He could have come to her house to help her out if he wanted to.
I think there's something deeper than tooth pain going on here. Who can do a million home births with no medication or help but overdoses on tylenol⁉️
@@clownbabyzz8495 I find it odd, as well.
I thought Veronica said her kids aren't allowed to date until they are 18 yrs old?
Clearly she’s dumb since she got pregnant at like 14 lol. 😂😂
I can walk into City Hall with my ID and get a copy of my son's birth certificate for like 15 bucks
Yeah, I don't know how it works in this case. The birth was unattended by a doctor or midwife iirc.
Ohhh gotcha. Even weirder lol
When my mom was gaining guardianship of my nephews in 2020, it actually was a bit of a difficult process because of Covid restrictions. You had to mail in certain papers and it did take a few weeks to get everything sorted. But, still, a few weeks isn't that long
tinder was way more important
Yeah but there’s no record of him, he was born at home completely off the radar which in itself is neglectful means he doesn’t exist on paper in society anywhere he could disappear and nobody would know, no Medicaid he can’t be counted towards the household size, can’t get free lunches at school, can’t get a job can’t get SSI, wouldn’t have vaccinations I mean nothing you have to have something and I know he’s just a kid right now, but he’s not a newborn and if somebody is going to do a home birth they definitely plan for those things, and they still get their kids records and documents filed, and taking care of because as a parent, you know that anything can happen and you need to be able to have those records when you need them at the ready and there’s 1 million different situations thatcould come up or you’re gonna need that shit and you don’t wanna be scrambling on the spot trying to figure that out I needed to have my kids, birth certificates and Social Security numbers for countless things already
How was D able to get treated for his cancer to behin with if she didnt have his birth certificate or SSN???
She explained in the neuroblastoma TT or in comments (I forget where) that he got emergency care through the state, which was short term interventionary kinda thing until she could sort the paperwork. Which she didn't. Last year he had surgery or some kind of treatment to remove the neuroblastoma. Everything now is post-treatment care that she can't get because she dropped the ball.
In Jan., NYS started to verify if a person still qualified for Medicad since Covid 19.
I've said this on another person's video about this person, but I've overdosed on Tylenol before, I did not get put in the hospital even when going to the emerge. It was during a tooth infection, i took an entire big bottle of extra strength Tylenol and puked my brains out, but never once did i pass out or look like she did in the clip of her singing, and i remember everything that happened.
Perfect storm of neglect and endangerment, and your talking about writing a book!!!!!
Yep. It's... Odd
I find it real weird this person chose to have 2 basketball teams worth of kids when she can’t take care of even 1 and you’re asking us to find empathy for her. 🥴
@@Ashley__Rose she's still a human
@@Ashley__Rose you don't have to empathize if you don't want to btw
This is such a sad situation. Veronica may not see it as "help" right now but I do think CPS made the right call. If she can look past the negative, this could be the help she needs to get her health/home/finances in order and that could take some time.
Dating should be her last thing to worry about!
She needs to buckle down and grow up quickly and prove that her kids are priority #1!
If she was involved or knew what Marty was doing...then I agree, throw the book at her as well.
Stellar vlog as usual, CE! I hope you keep us updated on any other unfolding that may happen. ❤🫶❤
I definitely will once she posts again. A medical specialist DMd me on Reddit and thinks she's in a 72 hr psych hold now that she's out of the ICU. Regardless, this is an opportunity to turn shit around IF she's not culpable and this isn't the worst case scenario we all fear.
So her wisdom teeth were painful and she got them removed and also got herself something for pain. Her son who has cancer just had to tough it out. That’s all I need to know about this woman
@@11Christys11 she DID get him treatment through some emergency covid measures thingy. He had a procedure for his neuroblastoma last May. However, he still needs regular scans, as there's still considerable risk that his cancer will return. She DID allow her ten year old to pull a painful growth out of his mouth in February, though... Instead of taking him to an emergency dentist.
Her children are gonna hate her when they are older. 🤷🏻♀️
Your videos are all so well put together. Thanks for doing this!
I’m not going to lie I’m an ex opioid addict and they still gave me painkillers Percocets after wisdom teeth removal why didn’t they give her any? That’s just weird
Some doctors have gone the opposite route with pain management after the fiasco with the opioid crisis. I’m not saying this is the case with Veronica. I am saying it does happen though.
I thought she said she can’t take anything strong because her kidneys. They told her she can take Tylenol which she said in her head made her feel “safe” to be able to take. So now she’s saying the dentist didn’t give her a prescription..? They always do. It’s because of her kidneys they didn’t. The math ain’t mathin
I'm not really sure either what's what.
Imo, liars are always like this. They say one thing and then it turns into another.
@@HollowWaterso absolutely
They do not. Not for an extraction. In the US anyway we are not allowed. Even for a defibrillator placement which is a significant scar. Cut through alllll that tissue to get to the HEART ITSELF- The ONLY doctors- whom we have to refer out to- who can prescribe opioids not bc of misuse by idiots- are pain management doctors. You have to be end stage cancer. My mom came home from a QUADRUPLE BYPASS where she was in ICU for 3 weeks, had 4 chest tubes and a PICC lIne, and was cut neck to pelvis- was sent home w SIX oxycodone. I had my gallbladder and thyroid removed, a D&C, hysteroscopy w many growths removed- in extreme pain- and was sent home that day on TYLENOL. Dentists would absolutely not prescribe opioids for a wisdom tooth ext. when I had it in 2000, yes. We cannot any longer. The pain management will prescribe to end stage cancer patients and that is all. Even then, their urine is tests and pills counted weekly.
I have a separate comment regarding her situation that I believe was intentional and to speak of her enzymes or a transplant in that manner w her jaundice….that was done w other dr*gs as well and over time. ODs do NOT happen like that, either. Not at all. But to be sent home on Tylenol….yes. It’s very sad what abuse has done here in the US to pts who need the meds. I took so much notrin and Tylenol post op it was ridiculous. No OD but about lethal doses if taken over time. THAT is the key. And I had no other choice except the ER to manage my pain. I was advanced trauma technician for 5 years prior yo med school, and I was not wasting their time for a short-term fix to my pain and discharge. And if she is unable to manage her own Tylenol, she should not be caring for kids. I will refrain from remarks regarding stupidity but teen pregnancy needs to STOP being glorified. Jesssfam??? Wrote wayyy back that she was dying to get pregnant to get on the show. Teen pregnancy is a huge risk to mother. Also as someone w fertility issues who spent 29 years in school, this is enraging but I’ve tried to stay civil and I feel for her pain. Also her calm demeanor regarding her children being taken is off-putting. Her speaking on her son’s NV is wild. It has a mediocre survival rate and his only chance at survival is St Jude’s over here. But I’m sure she has no idea.
The doctor could give Mobic- a stronger nsaid- but not with her kidneys. Or toradol. But again, not w her KIDNEY**** sorry she only has 1. And even toradol is abu$ed, or tried to be here. In canada I understand you can get codeine w no prescription. And in UK birth control w no rx?!?!?! That is wild to me. We also can no longer prescribe anxiety meds here except very short term and in extreme cases as on my psych ward. It is abs wild about the codeine & bc w no rx!!!! They are really cracking down here in the US.
@@cursedreactlet me know if you can see my comment here re: prescriptions here in the US. Extreme surgeries are even only given Tylenol these days. Tooth w ext is barely worthy of Tylenol bc of the abu$e of everything which I commented on here at length for you guys as a doctor!!
If your intubated you can't throw up!
Oh snap! I'm guessing this was before?
As a nurse I'm telling you half the stuff she's saying doesn't make sense!
If Andrew is active duty, the USMC likely gave him emergency leave when Marty was arrested. My husband was in the USMC for 21 years. He retired less than a year ago. We've seen these things a few times.
Oh, you think? I heard that the military is not very lenient for emergency leave.
Found you on TikTok! Love the vids so far, I love a good rabbit hole and you are very thorough. Subscribed!
@@greggigreen3738 thank you 🩷
Great video! Although dismal, the timeline breakdown was on point! My head was swirling just trying to keep up with the timeline.
She doesn’t seem to feel bad about her kids being taken by CPS.
She said it would be like summer camp for them 🙄
Great recap!! I just heard about this + imo it’s about time those kids got taken away! Let them see what real home life is like! 👍👍👍
Great video! So happy it came up in my recommended! I think you’re right about the timeline with when she went to the hospital. I listened the dispatch from the entire day of June 11 and there is nothing. Just editing my post because I asked if you know her boyfriend’s name but I think I found it. Great video! 👏🏽
Dispatch in her area? And thank you 🫶
@@cursedreact for Oswego. No calls happened with what she said she went through for the day of the 11th, at least none I’ve heard. There was one call for an unaliving attempt but the gender of that one wasn’t said, where every call they say. Idk if I’ll listen to dispatch from other days as it’s so time consuming and Veronica seems to lie a lot so it’ll be hard to find the truth.
@@Jessssicadanielle oh shit. Interesting. I wonder if she arrived on the 10th and was taken to the ICU on the 11th?
If you find the dispatch date, definitely let me know. I think she's flubbing details and using the OD to smokescreen what actually happened.
Can’t afford food but spends over £5k on Christmas???
@@k9drea84 yuuuuuup
In one of her videos she answers a persons comments with: credit cards 🥴
@@Nana2KCASBO ah yes, the plotline of every tween from the Y2K era 🥴
And can't pay a water bill, yet there is a tv in almost every room.
She wants everyone else to be at fault. THEY TOOK THE KIDS (when you knew what was up). I actually wonder if the kids will go back to her next year. She does neglect them quite a bit imo, so let's see what happens.
I don't think so. Especially if what Jaxx is saying is true, that Veronica was knowingly exposing them to someone who csa'd kids (including Jaxx).
I feel like cps should have gotten involved much sooner with what these kids have been dealing with. One can only hope this forces her to get her act together for them but who knows w her, she seems to think shes done nothing wrong 😅
That's the thing, she doesn't seem to think there's a problem. So she's doomed imo
OOOhhhhh this is gonna be an interesting one I can already tell! FOR HE ALGORITM!
Wait a minute!!!! She had her wisdom teeth out and was in so much pain she overdosed but she could drive from Syracuse to Oswego fine?!?!?!? Uhuh! I live in Corning and there aren't good highways between those 2 cities. So did she go to Oswego to do drugs with the boyfriend????
I don't know. The ambulance brought her to Oswego. I don't know where she was before that. Just not at home it seems.
One more thing lol. If you have EBT, you can order groceries online and have them delivered with a small fee for delivery. She could have easily done that via Amazon Fresh, Doordash, etc.
What's EBT? (I'm Canadian and unfamiliar with the terms)
Can you tell she’s BBF’s with Lush? Neither of them can get their (super obvious) lies straight. 🤦🏻♀️
Liars gonna lie
@@cursedreact and not very well 🤭🤯
@@cursedreact or for the “right reasons”. A white lie, sure, if it’s to not hurt someone else, but this, this is craziness.
I think Lush has one of her kids.
@@darkharlezucreek it's pretty unlikely but not impossible I suppose. I doubt it, though, because the friend was concerned about college prep.
LOVE your intro music !
Thank you!
Such a sad situation all the way around.
Agreed
This woman is always putting men before her kids!
Seems like it, eh?
She has no money for food but has money for a water bill? It makes zero sense!
What a horrible “mom” she is.
As far as food she could have found a store in her area that takes foodstamps and deliver the groceries.
My guess is that because she was in the ICU and severely out of it, she didn't have the wherewithal to organize that. It's a great idea, though. I honestly think this whole situation revealed just how flawed/on the edge her approach to caring for her family really is.
Leaving only Adam to care for the kids is crazy in the first place. He doesn't even drive and I don't think there's reliable public transport where they live, so what if one of the kids would need to get picked up from school or what if there's some other kind of emergency? Imagine an overwhelmed 18 year old in a house with 7 school kids who all need to get to school at different times as well as a medically fragile 4 year old and a toddler who's still in diapers in a house with no water and barely any food. And she acts like she doesn't understand why the kids had to leave the house. Did she think CPS was going to send babysitters over or what did she expect?
@@annaf3915 ALL OF THIS
I wonder if no water means no tolets becasue has there ever been a video of a bathroom.
There has! But she only tends to show the bathroom/laundry. The other has a giant hole, last I knew 😬
Jfc I didn't realize this was so close to my home town.
I have dentures, and the small "tooth" poking out of her childs gums looks like a bone shard and let me tell you those things are so painful it feels like a red hot electric poker is jabbing you in the face. It can also lead to an abscess or jaw bone infection (I've had both hence why I now have dentures😂 and I wouldnt wish that pain on my worst enemy)...her not getting pain meds for wisdom teeth removal isn't surprising because after having all my teeth and parts of my jaw bones surgically extracted I was given 7 days of the lowest dose lortab pain meds no refills just told to alternate ibuprofen and tylenol after those ran out (which was fine because after 2-3 days the worst of the pain is nearly gone anyways). Plus, if it's noted that she has a history of kidney issues, they are limited on what they could give her because most pain meds are hard on the kidneys. She is the same age I am, and I understand she was likely taken advantage of by the fathers of her children, but now the kids are here, and she needs to stop acting like she doesn't understand anything or have any power in her own life. She absolutely does she just seems to act like everything is happening to her for no reason. She needs to find her backbone, or she's going to lose everything, trying to be passive about her own life. My heart goes out to the kids❤
You're right. She tends to approach her problems with the mentality of a teenager and not an almost-40 year old woman. I really hope that the kids are placed in good and safe environments.
Also holy cow to your own dental experiences! I'm glad you're okay now but holy Hannah that sounds horrific 😔
@cursedreact bad teeth are so dangerous, and most people view it as a cosmetic issue when, in reality, getting an infection there can so quickly travel to the brain or heart. Getting dentures was honestly the best decision I ever made, and it improved my health and self-confidence so much. 🥰
@@AshatHome 🩷🩷🩷
I’m betting her overdose was on something else.
A lot of people wonder the same.
I would agree as a physician for a couple reasons the first being that The minimum toxic dose for an adult is literally four times the maximum daily dose, which would be 16,000 mg and the most dangerous and potentially deadly intoxication of acetaminophen are actually those that are taken in small excessive doses over an extended period of time rather than one big one. Secondly, if she had her wisdom teeth removed, that is going to be a kind of pain that is postoperative and inflammatory Tylenol does not work great at all for those kinds of paint and would normally only be prescribed in conjunction with a narcotic for that type of pain in somebody who is unable to take ibuprofen or naproxen for whatever reason Tylenol is an analgesic and antipyretic. It works great for fevers, but it does not reduce inflammation things like injuries or postoperative pain are going to respond much better to a non-steroid anti-inflammatory and possibly with an opioid analgesic, which would actually work on me source of the pain and improving that like when you sprain your ankle the pain that you feel is going to be due to a lot of inflammation and swelling, which is your body‘s way protecting itself to heal, but I can also cause a lot of pain now I don’t know everything about every provider and what they prescribe, but like I said, I have not heard of and I do not personally use Tylenol at all in any postop or post procedure recommendations or prescriptions generally speaking and oral surgeons don’t either they’re going to prescribe a prescription dose of ibuprofen or naproxen or perhaps, depending on how serious the procedure was for her wisdom teeth if it was a major surgical extraction of impacted teeth then there is a good possibility that she would’ve been prescribed what is known as Vicodin in other words, ibuprofen and hydrocodone in tandem which is a pretty typical postop prescription if somebody can’t have ibuprofen like I said for whatever reason then we would give them some thing like Tylenol three which is the equivalent with codeine or hydrocodone and thirdly, if the Tylenol that she was allegedly taking wasn’t helping in other words if it’s not effective at all taking more is not the solution taking more is not going to get you efficacy, and you would think that somebody of her age which I believe she is just a year my junior and who has raised 13 children would know a thing or two and be a little bit familiar with dosing of common over-the-counter medication if you don’t that in itself is concerning to me that you can make that big of a mistake and do something so foolish normally if people are having really severe pain following a procedure and they are not getting the kind of relief that they should be granted a little bit of pain as expected, but they feel like it’s excessive and they are not comfortably rest they would normally call us and let us know like hey I don’t feel like this medication is doing the trick. Is there something different I can or should take or is there more that I can take? How much should I be taking provided that they weren’t told that already which we normally tell them all of those things, even though a lot of it is common sense and you can read it on the Tylenol bottle, we still like to remind people and we send instructions something is not adding up here with her story. In fact a lot of things are not adding up that’s just one of them that stood out to me personally that I do not buy and the whole CPS thing is a crock of shit that’s not how CPS works and if you let’s say are a single parent and you’re going through chemotherapy or you had a stroke and there’s nobody in the family or another parent who can take the children or a family friend anything you’re completely on an island by yourself CPS can come in and provide temporary placement matter fact, my best friend is a temporary emergency foster parent and some of the situations are just like that she even takes them to visit the parent she communicates with the parent. It’s not necessarily something nefarious going on and in that case, the children are simply in the care of someone else because of circumstances their parent is in the hospital or just too sick, and the parent still has legal guardianship and authority over the children and decision-making ability and rights in that case they haven’t lost any of that they’re simply being helped with the portion that they are unable to do which is having the children in their physical custody and caring for them 24 hours a day and when they are in a better place physically and on the mend, they simply you know show that they are medically cleared and healthy. It’s not going to be an undue burden on them and they get their kits back. There’s no petitioning needed. There is no process to it. They don’t have to go to court. None of that because they didn’t have to go to court to have it done in the first place there’s no court order. That’s not what’s happening here at all and nobody signs their child over to CPS to get their child birth certificate and Medicaid coverage. That is the biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard it’s an embarrassingly bad lie.
@@jordanalandry1866 your explanation is so logical! Everything I've been thinking, you put into words. I also want to add, in her new videos today, she's stating how hard it is to get her child's birth certificate because he was born at home during the pandemic. It's simply not true. I had my baby at home in 2020 and I had no issue getting the birth certificate or social security card for my baby. She mentions a document called delayed birth certificate form. I Googled it for her state. It is easily accessible. However, there are some things that she would need to do such as have a verbal interview and give 3 things showing proof that she had her baby in the state of New York. Something tells me she is hesitant to do that possibly because they may find that something was nefarious going on during that time. She had an unattended birth. Not sure if that's legal in New York or not, but something seems very strange about the whole thing!
How in the hell does this "mother" not have documentation for a child!?
She had a home birth unattended
@cursedreact ok, that doesn't make it impossible not to get one. The mother would have to sign off as the witness if or whoever else may have been there. You can get the paperwork for vital statistics online. Some places have X amount of days by law to file but typically still up to one year. After that it can be more of a hassle but still not impossible. I saw somewhere an excuse was no printer? Loads of places will print documents for you. A doctors office couldn't have? I see the child is 4!? Treated for cancer too and that didn't throw any red flags? There are literally people in hospitals too who can help with that paperwork! Also did she not go to a hospital after the birth?? Like holy cow this blows my mind to be THAT irresponsible and make excuses as to why a child is undocumented for so long! Especially when they need medical attention and could be receiving benefits to help that child. 🤬
@@nrfmom06 I agree. Veronica likes to make excuses. I'm also surprised that her ex (the dad) couldn't help her with this task.
I even appreciate your grammar when you are speaking. You speak with the intention of commas, words’ meaning, etc. If that makes sense. I already said DCP sent a lot of us here but I am growing further from him every day….it was your topic relevancy to my interests and your grammar that kept me😅OH and your humor, of course 🤣🤣My own grammar and spelling is admittedly a wreck after a long day of work, and, online, it somewhat falls apart. Sorry to anyone to whom that bothers!!! 😬
Aw thank you. It's because I'm reading a script I wrote specifically to be read out loud. So it's my way of speech, but with structure 🫶
Notice how she says the kids would mostly be at school so the adult kids didnt have to watch them that long. Ummm, its summer lol smh
I noticed lol it just demonstrated to me just how much she relies on the older kids. The parentification has been a problem for YEARS in that house
And yes online is not the place to be putting all of this if you want to make things right
By the way it’s Social Security number that is needed for D, not social insurance like in Canada :)
Lol! Good catch. My brain is default Canadian.
@@cursedreact I just moved from the USA to Canada so I am more likely to notice than others haha! When we were getting married in the states, the courthouse kept asking my Canadian husband for his Social Security number 😆 I explained 3x he was Canadian but they kept asking!
@@KellyOsman-fc4cy lol how're you enjoying it? It's like Uncanny Valley whenever I go to the USA.
@@cursedreact SAME when I go back haha. I’m in BC and moved from North Carolina, so it’s all very different culture wise but very fun to experience! Loving not paying hundreds of dollars for basic healthcare though.
@@KellyOsman-fc4cy BC is a beautiful place to live. I'm glad you enjoy it 🩷
Mad Mama singing is really creepy ngl
It's definitely a vibe
She needs help.. I really hope she will receive it.
Me too.
I wanna know where she got 800mg Tylenol otc. That's Rx in America as far as I know. I've always had to be Rx it. And I googled it and 650 was the highest I could find otc.
@@Kadeebug06 I think we all would like to know. As she said she wasn't prescribed anything and yet... Was taking a prescription level dose.
@@cursedreact I get it's "just" Tylenol, but she's clearly not responsible enough to take it, Rx or not. You or I would be able to take a friend's 800mg Rx (not saying it's legal or we should, just saying we're responsible enough) and be fine because it's "just" Tylenol. Charly she can't be trusted. How did she give a child medicine for CANCER when she can't even take Tylenol?
@@Kadeebug06 it's a good question. It brings a lot of things into question.
With her following she gets a decent check from Tik Tok and YT. Where does that money go? I'm guessing towards traveling for her Tinder dates???
Usually, to frivolity. But she hasn't posted much this year, so those checks have been light.
i hope the kids get justice and love and care that they deserve. veronica is just very immature problematic out of touch with reality
I hope so too 🫶
Also the whole no insurance thing on D 😮 she lost my support. Theres no excuse one he had cancer once it was lost DO SOMETHING but she got a bf. How interesting
@@stephanielott554 💯 her priorities have been clear for awhile imo
Wouldnt ...be able to wvwn try to do nothing ..with anyone ..after my kid potentially sa'd . Tf
Why are the documents so hard to get?
🤷♀️ she gave a bunch of reasons.
They aren't. I Googled them today and they showed up for her state. She's trying to make it seem like they are hard to get and they aren't. I also had a baby at home in 2020. Very easy to get birth certificate and ss card. She's not being entirely truthful on what's really going on
I would love to see you do some content on asweetmadness
Which platform?
Okay, I found her on TT. WTF is an "AIDS daughter"? WHERE HAVE YOU SENT ME?!
@@cursedreact I’ve just recently learned about a sweet madness from @wndyswrld9095 She’s…😳 I love your commentary and I’d love to hear your thoughts on her. I’ve only just started this rabbit hole 😬
@@capricornfairy624 I'm definitely intrigued. Her TikTok views are abysmally low for nearly 50k followers and nearly every vid I clicked was a paid partnership??? What? Is there a subreddit, do you know? Or are we on this adventure together?
@@cursedreact not that I’m aware of but if I find one I’ll let you know. We are definitely in this together 🤣😉
Side note. Being from the area I love hearing how people pronounce the towns/cities. Overall this whole thing is a shame
@@GainingKailyn oh I don't doubt I said it all odd, haha. The Canadian accent betrays me a lot, too. But I agree. It's sad and unfortunate.
@cursedreact I liked your pronunciation better, honestly 😅 I've heard the Rochester accent (which I apperantly have) is like a Midwestern/Canadian Mix. I don't hear it
@@GainingKailyn New York State accents definitely have some of the same vowel sounds and rises. But then other stuff is so foreign sounding I don't recognize the word immediately. I find it really interesting, because really, it's a lake/river separating us. For my accent (what's left of it) it's very Ottawa Valley, which has a large Irish/Scottish background. But areas closer Hamilton and Waterloo have a more Dutch/German influence. I find it super interesting. 🩷
@cursedreact That's so cool! I never realized! Regardless, thank you for everything you do 🫶🏽
Um why couldn’t she take care of the water where she was from? I still had bills and insurance things to sort for my son and various other things. Ask for your purse!
I think she was making excuses
She just posted 2 more videos about an hour ago. It's unreal. The excuses she's making
@@arlenabrown1815 Thanks for the heads up 🩷
Yep! And I also had a baby in 2020 at home. She's making it seem like it's so hard to get a birth certificate and social security card and its not. I literally googled the forms for her state. Sounds like medical neglect to me!
@@arlenabrown1815 the excuses are wild to me. WILD.
I have no idea how she is even so calm talking about it. As a doctor though, I know that childhood NB has a minimal survival rate. Those patients need St. Jude. And a very stable family and mother. As someone with infertility struggles spending $44k (in debt actually) for IVF for one chance at a miracle baby after miscarriages alone in the bathroom delivering a tiny fetus and just blood and tissue…it is hard to find sympathy. Stop glorifying teen pregnancy. She started at just 14. The many health risks alone are not outlined on Teen Mom or 16 and Pregnant. Sorry it’s too late for “ .” Lol. But people like JessssFam?? were dying to get pregnant young to be on the show.
Apparently she is unaware but he is very much not okay, and he needs a miracle. Nobody deserves that diagnosis as a mother or certainly as a child, and I do feel for her in that regard. But ODs do not happen in the manner she describes. They just don’t. And court was that day?? I am worried this was very intentional. Her jaundice and talk of a transplant suggests this happened over time w many insults to the liver, possibly w other dr*gs. It takes a long time for liver enzymes to climb high enough to discuss a transplant, and there is a reason her kids were taken. I’m afraid w court so close, and her past talks and current talks of the foster parents being *a place for them to go should something happen in the future* scares me. Maybe this is the time for her to get the help she needs.
Everyone is going on about the CSA criminal living in the basement but I’ve not enough information nor understanding to speculate on this being part of the removal ***or how asinine OR NOT it was to have him there…
I’m a physician also actually an OB/GYN and I just commented exactly what you just said on another post. The cancer thing is very sad. It makes me sad just to think about some very good friends of ours. My son childhood best friend was diagnosed with a very treatable childhood cancer in 2nd grade, his parents were DEVASTATED, mom had to shut her home daycare down effective immediately as they had to travel several times a week to another city for treatment his school schedule had to be amended and allowed to work from home on it due to keeping him away from communicable illnesses etc and I had to give him his chemo treatments at our house for my sons bday party sleepover and limit the guests to 2 healthy ones in addition to our family his mom ONLY allowed it it was the first time she’d been aaay form him over night for the duration of his two year treatment and since I’m a physician and lived right down the road I said you can call anytime in the middle of the night he can go home anytime we’re literally just a phone call and a two block drive away and had to BEG her and dad to go out to dinner and a movie, which they enjoyed but they hadn’t had any time together to just breathe in two years and two young parents of two boys I felt like that could easily be any of us, this woman is unhinged I have wondered for soooo long why she had any platform and support when she’s so clearly dysfunctional and lives in squalor and poor kids man
She's not being honest about how and why the kids went to CPS
Agreed.
No she is not a victim
Interesting. Why do you feel that?
I have a feeling that D is having symptoms of cancer relapse. The way Veronica talks about him makes me uneasy. I hope I'm wrong.
God I hope not. But she did say that the surgery he had had a really low recovery for he's stage of cancer, and that was IF he had survived it (he did). Iirc she said they wouldn't know if he had beat it until after 5, which is harrowing. Tbh, I've avoided the cancer stuff because my son is about the same age and that would destroy me. Utterly. Completely.
Pray the rosary for that little one 😭😭
Omg. That tooth
Yeahhhh 😞
CPS workers typically work in pairs-so could be a man and a woman.
Oh, well then that must be it then. (I know nothing about cps)
Omg that’s so scary! 6:35 if I was a single mother with that many kids, I would NEVER look for men to come around and possibly have any contact with them… her life is DONE, too many kids, that SHOULD BE you’re LIFE. A woman like this shouldn’t have a personal life imo. What a selfish person and now those children will live a life of poverty and suffering!
I understand why she sought out a relationship, but I agree. It was messing up her priorities clearly.
So Marty only hurt Jax and not the other children?
We don't know.
@@cursedreact ok. Yeah! I hope not for their sake, but them cutting up the privacy curtain says differently.
@@Viper-bossHarming one is too many… but that said, hopefully just limited to only one. It’s still too many though… that’s some sick ish!
@-KingOfKhaos exactly! One is to many. For her not to report him and still leave him alone with the children. I hope she doesn't get any of the kids back.
I think Jaxx is out of the statute of limitations unfortunately. :( Jaxx wouldn't have been the right age for the charges I don't believe either. I hate to say it but I believe there's more than one.
Well this video is great for cps to use in court not good for Veronica though
And i HOPE TO GOD alisha doesnt see this as another one trick pony
I don't think she will. Alicia is many things, stupid is not one of them. Or at least, she's not as dumb as Veronica.
You say the word reputable wrong
I say it how I say it.
I think you meant to say, "you pronounce the word 'reputable' incorrectly." But if you know what word she was saying then there is zero reason to correct someone.
@@justine8387 Also "incorrect" to them maybe not to me. I get comments like this sometimes. I'm assuming because I'm Canadian. I've had people point out how I say "pasta" as well.
@@cursedreactmy view is that a word is only incorrect if the person hearing it cannot decipher meaning.
@@justine8387 agreed 🫶
If people would mind there own business as much as they worry about this woman's business the world might be better off 🙄
Lady, she posted it to TikTok for the world to see. Skidaddle clown
Exploit kids and people are going to talk
She didn't have money so she had to use 1,400 in food stamps. Isn't that what they are for to feed your children ? And she can feed 12 children on that much if she stops the junk food. Make a list of good food when you get those food stamps (everybody else is paying for ) and stick to it. She's to lazy to do that instead she feeds her children chips, candy and sugar laced drinks for dinner and then can't understand why they are up all night.
Please tell me this gets to the point without a heap of yacking ? I enjoy your channel but it really drags and My wanders especially when it goes round in circles.
Said with love 🇦🇺🦘
Have you tried 1.5x speed?
Did you watch the vid first and then comment… or comment first and then watch? Or didn’t watch at all? She gets to the point in 20 seconds… not sure how much faster you want the first point to be laid out lol
@@cursedreact yea I have it on that speed or quicker. Hope I didn’t offend.
That upload was great. Geezus there are some deadbeat parents on this world
@@andreamoore367 not at all. I have ADHD and I get impatient with the channels I watch, too 😉
@@-KingOfKhaos I’m referring to past vids mate. It this was great