Thank you for a quick, detailed, concise, summery of these two speakers with a good presentation of case scenarios suited to both. This video gets my sub for delivering without colouring the intended information.
Got the Micca coming in after watching you and Zeos talk about it... Micca will take less room on my desk. Hold for my youtube comment review next week.
So how do you like them? Also what type of dac/amp are you using to run them? I also have limited desk space and am looking for a compact yet decent setup.
I have the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speakers that are powered by a Marantz receiver in a small living room. I am always surprised to hear how much bass this pair produces given its small stature. I highly recommend them if you want good performance for a competitive price.
I have two pair of Pioneer BS-22. I love how they look and sound. The size, appearance and detailing are amazing for $99/pair. Playing electronic music at high volume, my class D Crown XLS 1002 is rated 350 wpc (max) @ 4 ohms, and these speakers have survived this abuse for more than two years. They seem to handle plenty of power without noticeable distortion (your results may vary).
I have a pair of Micca MB42X with a budget Polk sub-woofer connected to my PC (w/ one of those tiny low watt desktop amps) and they sound great. They were like $75. They're great budget speakers, especially for a desktop. Also, Z Reviews just gave a raving review of these speakers comparing them to a, get this, smaller Buchardts. I am tempted to get a pair just to check them out. (and I have a pair of Zu Dirty Weekends on the way). Shit, for a $130 it would be worth the effort.
@@AdrianIII Not sure I agree with you, but I was only commenting about my personal experience with one of Micca's products and how much I liked it for a budget speaker. They do seem to put out a pretty decent product. IMHO Cheers! 😁✌️
One pair of the Pioneer speakers at a friend's house are a wonderful feature on each visit. They were purchased in a Department Store (not an audio outlet)! SO, the wonderful Pioneers are facing a challenger!
Mine just arrived today. Plugged them into my restored Yamaha A-520 amp, and they really are amazing, considering their size and price. No regrets whatsoever.
Nice job. Can you help me. Am I hesitating between the Micca RB42 or the EDIFIER R1700BT? I would use them via a PC and an integrated sound card on the motherboard. And they would be used for music, movies and video games... TNX
Sadly, I had to return the RB42s. Bought them to replace desk speakers b/c they are much smaller than what I've been using for the past 5 years (Fluance SX6). Using Schiit Modi 2 Multibit dac and an Emotiva minix a-100 amp. There is a grit in the mid bass that I just could not get out with either JRiverMC EQ or MiniDSP. It's in the 150-300hz range, but is nearly untamable. I tried for several days and could not make myself like these speakers. I liked them better alone than with any sub (tried them with a JBL PB10, BIC F12 and dual Def Tec ProSub 800s). Upon taking them down and re-installing the SX6's, it's clear that the SX6's are far superior.
Hey stave amazing video as Always I’m looking to get the Micca’s for my bedroom. What amp or receiver would you recommend I’ll won’t mind a $400 or $500 budget. Thanks for any advice and help
I feel like the biggest incubator for audiophilia is to have your good sounding system replaced with a tabletop radio. You have to have the seed of quality planted first. Then when you lose it abruptly it just compels you to fix the problem. At least that's how I react. I suppose I already had the bug.
@@AndyBHome There is a place for shitty speakers. I use a google home mini in the bathroom. The speaker absolutely sucks but its good enough for air guitarring in the shower.
How about the Mica MB42X Steve? From this review it sounds like it might be a closer match to the amazing Pioneer. Better yet compare the MB42X to the Dayton Air bookshelf you receomed for an entry Hi-Fi speaker.
I have the Micca MB42X ("X" is the older bro of the MB42) and the Pioneer SP-BS22s. Love both. I use the Miccas with an tiny SMSL amp as my Mac Pro desktop near-fields and the Pioneers with a Harmon Kardon 3700 and Subwoofer in my (small) Living room. The Miccas are super efficient. I saw somewhere that the MB42s (not the X's) are a little tougher to drive
How are they as a near field/desktop speaker? That’s the one thing missing from this UA-cam review anyway. I’d think they might be really good, huh? Is there a matching sub for the fashion minded?
Whatever happened to NHT? Steve, would love to see you do a video review of Gallo Acoustics A'Diva SE, or even the Stradas. You did a review of their Micros some time ago on your blog, and seemed to like them.
I bought a pr of micca rb42s. For the money, they are awesome, fill my small room 10x16 with excellent sound. I recommend self-powered sub(s), good cable and interconnect, and at least 75 watts pc, to bring them to larger than life. Oh, the best sound is w/ a 100hz high pass filter in the line from your sub. That allows them to breathe, without causing over modulation trying to reproduce 40hz.
In my mind the micca are better suited to every day listening and anyone will appreciate how they sound especially in a smaller environment like a British living room that on average around 25foot by 12foot you wont need a huge amp to make them fill the room with sound
I absolutely love Micca and their products. But I really wish they would expand their products Especially the speakers. Please MICCA, go with a larger woofer. If you build it. They will buy it so to speak
Perfect comparison. I own Pioneer BS22 LR and enjoy listening to them. Great speakers for the price . I bought for $86/pair . I also have 4 SP-FS52 for my 5.1 setup. Amazing sound and value for money !
They might be competitors in the US, Steve, but I can assure you that the Pioneer retail chain here saw to it that anything associated with Andrew Jones has a price completely out of whack with what they cost in the States. I wont bore you with the gory details but I could have the Miccas delivered to my door for a hell of a lot less than the Pioneer, and I don't consider either a good candidate for the living room. I get that we pay for local warranties, but the after-sales 'service' offered by many of the distributors here is abysmal, particularly when the margin is as low as it must be on the BS22. Too many retailers here want to be just lie the big box guys - zero customer relationship, get it off the floor and into a customer's car then move on to the next chump, er, customer. I welcome Micca, Edifier, Fiio and others with open arms. Thanks for the video.
which entry level amp would you suggest for the mixxa rb42 amp that has sub expandability? I an a noob to this, and would really like your input. Thanks!
Look at stuff by SMSL (on Amzn). Nice sound on a budget. And yes, I would suggest getting a model with dedicated subwoofer out as well (for future "upgrade" purposes). The discontinued SMSL Q5 Pro (still available, tho) has plenty of power, tiny footprint, sub-out and a remote as well.
I purchased the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR's at Fry's for $58, specifically to connect them to my recently restored Pioneer SX-450. They sound fantastic even at that low power level of 15 wpc RMS. I have never had the opportunity to listen to Micca speakers, but they seem to be well liked.
I've got the same speakers connected to a one-owner SX-880 playing Return to Forever's ROMANTIC WARRIOR in my home office as I type this. I'm real happy with these speakers. I have a pair of much larger JBL two-ways that I wanted to move downstairs to my music practice room and I'm happy to have them out of here; I don't feel like I give up anything especially at the milliwatts levels I'm usually running them at.
From Steve's CNET review linked in the description: "The RB42 put up a good fight, but the B652 Air was a much clearer-sounding speaker. Not as rich as the RB42, but the B652 Air's bass-midrange-treble balance was smoother."
@@victorsixtythree -- I agree with that assessment. The B652 AIR is pretty good from about 100 Hz on up, but lacks low-end richness and heft -- IMO it needs a subwoofer low-passed fairly high, 150-180 Hz or so.
I have a pair on a 100 watt mini-amp, a cheap little $70 Fosi from Amazon, which seems to run them pretty well. I am using these as computer speakers in my bedroom, and at half volume I can barely stay in the same room. They sound wonderful.
@@jogmas12 I'm not sure that's entirely true since the Technics 1200 is arguably the most iconic turntable of all time. I'm not a fan boy I literally own nothing made by Technics, but I don't think it's fair to discredit everything made by the company.
A tonal comparison would have been nice. True we might not know what they sound like in real life BUT if you play one right after the other we can judge how they differ.
how would the micca rb42 compare to Polk owm3 ? right now i have 2 polk owm3 with a yamaha 10inch sub. would i benefit by switching out the owm3 for the micca rb42?
I got a pair of these along with a sub woofer for computer speakers as I was wanting to get into audiophile grade stuff without breaking the bank, and love them, but I may get another pair and sub and an amp for a music system.
Hi Steve, I am using a 1994 Sony ES model CD player. Is my music missing something? If it is just 1s and 0s do I need to upgrade? Would love a video discussing this. Wondering why anyone should pay 5k for a CD player... love the videos. Always a great break to my day.
I'm in a similar situation. I brought my old early 90's era Sony CD player down from the attic. My understanding is that the digital-to-audio conversion that happens inside the machine is probably not on par with modern technology. So, it probably doesn't sound as good as a modern CD player or if you were to bypass the unit's internal DAC and use a separate one. (My unit does not have a digital out, so I don't think I'd be able to hook up an external DAC.) My set up sounds fine to me but I don't have a lot of experience and haven't done any listening comparisons. I would be very curious to know how much of an improvement I could expect with a better CD player.
You don't understand digital. At any rate, digital has to be converted to analogue. DAC chips and filters have come a long way since 1994. Also the cost of a CD player also reflects the quality of the drive and power supply. Not all digital sections are created equal as well. The 0s and 1s thing is deceiving and not even technically correct. Most people don't understand all the aspects of digital and resort to the 0s and 1s nonsense.
@@victorsixtythree A vast difference. Even the best Sony CD players from the 90s although super smooth, sounded flat and lifeless. My recommendation is to pickup a really nice player from around 2008 used. Many players that were $3000 to $5000 can be had for about $400 and you will get many of the benefits of modern DACs plus some new features.
If people value the sound quality of music, then they shouldn't compromise the size of their speakers. Size seems to be one compromise that many speaker makers advertise as a feature.
NAD has dried up the sale of NAD and the C 316BEE on Amazon or any place. There are a couple of places in my state but just to far of a drive. I found one place that sells online but they are not on the authorized dealer sale list.
@@felixlaboy1453 I don't have an expensive, or even a powerful amplifier, but seems to do a fine job. Here's a link to it on Amazon. www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Audio-Amplifier-Integrated-BT30A-Silver/dp/B07K7NJ4QN
Having a hard time finding the sound that everyone likes about Miccas. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've tried the RB42's on a few different amps integrated 5.1 set to 2 channel my 45 watt power amp connected my a M200 using bluetooth for now and my SMSL AD-18 and I just don't hear the clarity and bottom end everyone is talking about. Maybe they need more power or I just need to turn them up more? I can't really turn them up where I live for the sound I'm looking for unfortunately so that stinks. I think I need a speaker that is more full and lively at lower listening levels. Do. You have any suggestions? Thank you.
Ah Hello - Mr. Guttenberg, ShellstaX here from Klipsch head office. We trust you're enjoying the Forte's we sent out sir. Um ... Just a reminder ... We seek to have them returned in the condition in which they were sent. Yes, it's just that some people have a tendency to put things on them. No Bullshit - have a nice day. 😉
That's also like comparing a $1,300 mattress to a $999 mattress. Or a $130,000 house to a $99,000 house. The difference in price isn't insignificant. For someone with such a budget, you're asking them to forego a large basket of ramen noodles to get roughly equal audio in exchange. If the Micca doesn't kick the Pioneer's ass, give me the Pioneer and the noodles.
, try the Fluance SX-6. absolutely fabulous speakers especially for the money. exactly the same as the Micca RB.in cost. the Fluance has a 5 inch woofer and a gigantic box so they have good base & toneality to them. the tweeters are very bright when you first get them and the woofer is a little weak also so they need about 20 hours or so of burn in so to speak. I have the White pair, I love them.
I just posted that I returned the RB42s after purchasing them to replace the SX6s due to smaller size. The SX6 is in another class than the Micca RB42. It just is. Had mine since ~2014, I keep trying to better them, and I keep failing.
@Huds S Sorry, I have never heard the Pioneers, nor the Signature Series by Fluance. However, since returning the RB42's, I purchased a set of Emotiva B1+'s to try them out. I sent those back, as well. The SX6 is still king on my desk. I truly think it's the tweeter and the big box combo that make this speaker work. They call it a 1" soft dome, but it measures closer to 1.5" dia. Also, my SX6's are from 2014. As I understand it, Fluance has tweaked the SX6 to be a bit brighter now. Good luck to you.
*You sound EXACTLY like ole boys character off of Oceans 13.The tech guy that had the messed up card shuffle machine... You speak EXACTLY-down to the tone and syllables; like him.* @UnLOKyoUfOOL®
As a general rule there is a price I will never go below when it comes to speakers. These two speakers are below that point. They may be decent sounding speakers and they most likely are but you do get what you pay for. So I’m thinking more value for a little more dollars.
So you are saying the mica do not strip you ear drums with the Pioneer sharp peak, or that uncontrolled no musical slightly booming bass. For the money the pioneer is a fun occasional speaker to listen to. I own the pioneer BS 22s and the BS 21s as comparison
The pioneer can't handle the bass..the micca is just the one hell of a speaker and speaking of size the pioneer is just about the same size speaker it just the cabinet is bigger the micca is deeper in a small little box
So, to recap: The Pioneers reveal more information, will play louder, have superior base and cost significantly less (based on percentage), but the Micca is the winner. Got it.
Buying gud speakers is worst than buying a car...you NEVER know wut you get until you set it up as home for a week or 2. Also the mark-up $$$ is HORRENDOUS for som brands! A $100 pair can sound just as gud or better than a $500 pair...and the average consumer doesn't know shite about sound quality. It's such a crap shoot when you go to stores and worst shopping online.
Steve how about playing some music on them while you tell us your reactions. A speaker is a machine that produces sound, just like a car is a machine made to be rolling on the streets.
@Daniel Combs It´s so he can play music and comment alone how he feels and his emotions with different genders of music. Its like reviewing a car. it is not meant to compare speakers as your computer´s speakers are different than mine.
Yea too bad nobody can buy these !!!!!! They are gone just like the jamo speakers, POOF , Gone. Sucks. Even micca website, gone but they do have the MTM version with two woofers and one tweeter.
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That's what I'm talkin' about! Thanks for the comparison, Steve.
Steve thanks for the budget reviews, Zeos is also raving about the speakers -
Thank you for a quick, detailed, concise, summery of these two speakers with a good presentation of case scenarios suited to both. This video gets my sub for delivering without colouring the intended information.
I love the RB42's! I have several sets of speakers, but I keep coming back to them.
Very good speaker is the Pioneer SP-BS22-lR. I love mine !
Got the Micca coming in after watching you and Zeos talk about it... Micca will take less room on my desk. Hold for my youtube comment review next week.
Micas are deeper than the pioneers.
So how do you like them? Also what type of dac/amp are you using to run them? I also have limited desk space and am looking for a compact yet decent setup.
I have the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speakers that are powered by a Marantz receiver in a small living room. I am always surprised to hear how much bass this pair produces given its small stature. I highly recommend them if you want good performance for a competitive price.
I have two pair of Pioneer BS-22. I love how they look and sound. The size, appearance and detailing are amazing for $99/pair. Playing electronic music at high volume, my class D Crown XLS 1002 is rated 350 wpc (max) @ 4 ohms, and these speakers have survived this abuse for more than two years. They seem to handle plenty of power without noticeable distortion (your results may vary).
I have a pair of Micca MB42X with a budget Polk sub-woofer connected to my PC (w/ one of those tiny low watt desktop amps) and they sound great. They were like $75. They're great budget speakers, especially for a desktop.
Also, Z Reviews just gave a raving review of these speakers comparing them to a, get this, smaller Buchardts. I am tempted to get a pair just to check them out. (and I have a pair of Zu Dirty Weekends on the way). Shit, for a $130 it would be worth the effort.
Z knows that making such comparisons is very good for clicks. Z has room to like everything, so it's hard to know what to believe with his reviews.
@@AdrianIII Not sure I agree with you, but I was only commenting about my personal experience with one of Micca's products and how much I liked it for a budget speaker. They do seem to put out a pretty decent product. IMHO Cheers! 😁✌️
One pair of the Pioneer speakers at a friend's house are a wonderful feature on each visit. They were purchased in a Department Store (not an audio outlet)! SO, the wonderful Pioneers are facing a challenger!
Mine just arrived today. Plugged them into my restored Yamaha A-520 amp, and they really are amazing, considering their size and price. No regrets whatsoever.
Nice job. Can you help me. Am I hesitating between the Micca RB42 or the EDIFIER R1700BT? I would use them via a PC and an integrated sound card on the motherboard. And they would be used for music, movies and video games... TNX
I finally figured out what's killing expensive high-end audio, you are😅😅😅😅😅
Bought both to a-b test. The Pioneer sounds better to me. The rb42 has better bass but it muddles the sound.
Sadly, I had to return the RB42s. Bought them to replace desk speakers b/c they are much smaller than what I've been using for the past 5 years (Fluance SX6). Using Schiit Modi 2 Multibit dac and an Emotiva minix a-100 amp. There is a grit in the mid bass that I just could not get out with either JRiverMC EQ or MiniDSP. It's in the 150-300hz range, but is nearly untamable. I tried for several days and could not make myself like these speakers. I liked them better alone than with any sub (tried them with a JBL PB10, BIC F12 and dual Def Tec ProSub 800s). Upon taking them down and re-installing the SX6's, it's clear that the SX6's are far superior.
Yeah I hear the same weird mid bass with mine
Hey stave amazing video as Always I’m looking to get the Micca’s for my bedroom. What amp or receiver would you recommend I’ll won’t mind a $400 or $500 budget.
Thanks for any advice and help
Cool review! Thanks for posting
I might get a pair for my nephew. I'm trying to infect him with my Audiophilia
I feel like the biggest incubator for audiophilia is to have your good sounding system replaced with a tabletop radio. You have to have the seed of quality planted first. Then when you lose it abruptly it just compels you to fix the problem. At least that's how I react. I suppose I already had the bug.
@@AndyBHome There is a place for shitty speakers. I use a google home mini in the bathroom. The speaker absolutely sucks but its good enough for air guitarring in the shower.
haaa! me too, and he's still young...but that little man loves big sound!
Oh my God that these sounds nasty LOL
I ordered the miccas! Hope it works well for listening to music in the second zone while cleaning house...
How about the Mica MB42X Steve? From this review it sounds like it might be a closer match to the amazing Pioneer. Better yet compare the MB42X to the Dayton Air bookshelf you receomed for an entry Hi-Fi speaker.
Definitely take the speaker enthusiast for a storm.
Sadly it's not sold locally here.
I have the Micca MB42X ("X" is the older bro of the MB42) and the Pioneer SP-BS22s. Love both. I use the Miccas with an tiny SMSL amp as my Mac Pro desktop near-fields and the Pioneers with a Harmon Kardon 3700 and Subwoofer in my (small) Living room. The Miccas are super efficient. I saw somewhere that the MB42s (not the X's) are a little tougher to drive
How are they as a near field/desktop speaker? That’s the one thing missing from this UA-cam review anyway. I’d think they might be really good, huh? Is there a matching sub for the fashion minded?
Whatever happened to NHT?
Steve, would love to see you do a video review of Gallo Acoustics A'Diva SE, or even the Stradas. You did a review of their Micros some time ago on your blog, and seemed to like them.
Have a 5.1 system using the pioneers. Love it
I bought a pr of micca rb42s. For the money, they are awesome, fill my small room 10x16 with excellent sound. I recommend self-powered sub(s), good cable and interconnect, and at least 75 watts pc, to bring them to larger than life. Oh, the best sound is w/ a 100hz high pass filter in the line from your sub. That allows them to breathe, without causing over modulation trying to reproduce 40hz.
In my mind the micca are better suited to every day listening and anyone will appreciate how they sound especially in a smaller environment like a British living room that on average around 25foot by 12foot you wont need a huge amp to make them fill the room with sound
Great impressions. I have Energy Take Classics 5.1, would the Micca's be a nice upgrade? I was also thinking about the Q Acoustics 3010is or 3020i.
NO
I absolutely love Micca and their products.
But I really wish they would expand their products Especially the speakers.
Please MICCA, go with a larger woofer.
If you build it. They will buy it so to speak
Perfect comparison. I own Pioneer BS22 LR and enjoy listening to them. Great speakers for the price . I bought for $86/pair . I also have 4 SP-FS52 for my 5.1 setup. Amazing sound and value for money !
@Karthik G are you using the SP-FS52 as surrounds? I was considering this as they are withing my budget to do this.
@@maft43 Iam no audiophile.. but Iam not finding any reason to not have as surround.
They might be competitors in the US, Steve, but I can assure you that the Pioneer retail chain here saw to it that anything associated with Andrew Jones has a price completely out of whack with what they cost in the States. I wont bore you with the gory details but I could have the Miccas delivered to my door for a hell of a lot less than the Pioneer, and I don't consider either a good candidate for the living room. I get that we pay for local warranties, but the after-sales 'service' offered by many of the distributors here is abysmal, particularly when the margin is as low as it must be on the BS22. Too many retailers here want to be just lie the big box guys - zero customer relationship, get it off the floor and into a customer's car then move on to the next chump, er, customer. I welcome Micca, Edifier, Fiio and others with open arms.
Thanks for the video.
which entry level amp would you suggest for the mixxa rb42 amp that has sub expandability? I an a noob to this, and would really like your input. Thanks!
Look at stuff by SMSL (on Amzn). Nice sound on a budget. And yes, I would suggest getting a model with dedicated subwoofer out as well (for future "upgrade" purposes). The discontinued SMSL Q5 Pro (still available, tho) has plenty of power, tiny footprint, sub-out and a remote as well.
@@goobfilmcast4239 I ended up purchasing a SMSL AD18. Works great!
@@NVSTRZ34 Nice....put this in the "great minds" category .....Good Luck!!
You need power, lots as they are inefficient as all get out, 75 watts min.
I purchased the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR's at Fry's for $58, specifically to connect them to my recently restored Pioneer SX-450. They sound fantastic even at that low power level of 15 wpc RMS. I have never had the opportunity to listen to Micca speakers, but they seem to be well liked.
I've got the same speakers connected to a one-owner SX-880 playing Return to Forever's ROMANTIC WARRIOR in my home office as I type this. I'm real happy with these speakers. I have a pair of much larger JBL two-ways that I wanted to move downstairs to my music practice room and I'm happy to have them out of here; I don't feel like I give up anything especially at the milliwatts levels I'm usually running them at.
Both look great. Although nearly twice the price, the PSB Alpha P3 is a good "step up" speaker in this size class (4" 2-way)
And the next question is how these two compare to the Dayton Audio B652 and B652 Air...???
From Steve's CNET review linked in the description: "The RB42 put up a good fight, but the B652 Air was a much clearer-sounding speaker. Not as rich as the RB42, but the B652 Air's bass-midrange-treble balance was smoother."
@@victorsixtythree -- I agree with that assessment. The B652 AIR is pretty good from about 100 Hz on up, but lacks low-end richness and heft -- IMO it needs a subwoofer low-passed fairly high, 150-180 Hz or so.
$130 speakers on a $400 amp. What is more interesting is how these 4" power hungry speakers sound on a similar budget amp?
I have a pair on a 100 watt mini-amp, a cheap little $70 Fosi from Amazon, which seems to run them pretty well. I am using these as computer speakers in my bedroom, and at half volume I can barely stay in the same room. They sound wonderful.
@@michaelvansise4887 A pair of which speakers though?
@@Cpt.Phenom RB42s
@@Cpt.Phenom DERP
@@madmax2069 How was I supposed to know which speakers he was referring to?
I agree. I have the miccas and the aural pleasure and the aural pleasures don't come close.
The Micca looks like a Realistic Minimus 7!
Daniel M no, it actually looks like the Q Acoustics speaker line.
@@jogmas12 lol the Minimus 7 was around 30 years before q existed Hahaha
Daniel M dude I know realistic from radio shack and none of their stuff was really any good.
@@jogmas12 I'm not sure that's entirely true since the Technics 1200 is arguably the most iconic turntable of all time. I'm not a fan boy I literally own nothing made by Technics, but I don't think it's fair to discredit everything made by the company.
Daniel M u in the twilight zone? Technics is not a part of Realistic by Radio shack. Technics is or was owned by Panasonic!
Arylic A50, with RB42 or the Emotiva B1+?
I never tried the Pioneers because I can't get over how "Blah" they look. The Micca's, on the other hand, have the look I'd go for.
Is it optimal for desktop/nearfield setup?
I had a set of Micca MB42x's I gave to my BIL when I upgraded. He raves about them still.
ZReviews did the exact same Micca Pair today LOL ! What are the odds .. !
And plus you get to see Z interact with his furry friend Chewbacca!..........unlike most review vids which don't include those special touches! : D
Hey Steve would like to see you review the PSB Alpha P5 Hope you get a chance to thx
I've heard that Micca may be coming out with a center speaker based on the new RB42 as well.
Hi, Steve, do you have any suggestions where I can get a pair of these Micca’s? Looks like they aren’t available on Amazon.
Just came back in stock. Get them while they're still in stock.
A tonal comparison would have been nice. True we might not know what they sound like in real life BUT if you play one right after the other we can judge how they differ.
The Pioneer SP-BS22-LR speakers are always out of stock on Amazon even though Pioneer says they're not discontinued.
how would the micca rb42 compare to Polk owm3 ? right now i have 2 polk owm3 with a yamaha 10inch sub. would i benefit by switching out the owm3 for the micca rb42?
If you own the Pioneers, this really isn't an upgrade, then?
Not an upgrade.
I got a pair of these along with a sub woofer for computer speakers as I was wanting to get into audiophile grade stuff without breaking the bank, and love them, but I may get another pair and sub and an amp for a music system.
Hi Steve, I am using a 1994 Sony ES model CD player. Is my music missing something? If it is just 1s and 0s do I need to upgrade? Would love a video discussing this. Wondering why anyone should pay 5k for a CD player... love the videos. Always a great break to my day.
I'm in a similar situation. I brought my old early 90's era Sony CD player down from the attic. My understanding is that the digital-to-audio conversion that happens inside the machine is probably not on par with modern technology. So, it probably doesn't sound as good as a modern CD player or if you were to bypass the unit's internal DAC and use a separate one. (My unit does not have a digital out, so I don't think I'd be able to hook up an external DAC.) My set up sounds fine to me but I don't have a lot of experience and haven't done any listening comparisons. I would be very curious to know how much of an improvement I could expect with a better CD player.
You don't understand digital.
At any rate, digital has to be converted to analogue. DAC chips and filters have come a long way since 1994.
Also the cost of a CD player also reflects the quality of the drive and power supply. Not all digital sections are created equal as well. The 0s and 1s thing is deceiving and not even technically correct. Most people don't understand all the aspects of digital and resort to the 0s and 1s nonsense.
@@victorsixtythree A vast difference. Even the best Sony CD players from the 90s although super smooth, sounded flat and lifeless. My recommendation is to pickup a really nice player from around 2008 used. Many players that were $3000 to $5000 can be had for about $400 and you will get many of the benefits of modern DACs plus some new features.
Would you like/respect the Micca more if it were priced at $1000/pair? It could be done under a different brand name.
was about to buy the Swan mk200mkiii and now these have popped up. Do they compare?
Swans are powered speakers, these are passive...I have the Swans... for desk or TV they are terrific.
If people value the sound quality of music, then they shouldn't compromise the size of their speakers. Size seems to be one compromise that many speaker makers advertise as a feature.
, I'm actually going to be buying both of these speakers because I like them both very much.
This was cool. There is something for everyone. Fresh review of same said Miccas over at Z reviews posted today as well. Enjoy!
Yep. Z was absolutely RAVING about these Miccas. I think he said something like they were the best he'd ever heard for under $300 if not mistaken
NAD has dried up the sale of NAD and the C 316BEE on Amazon or any place. There are a couple of places in my state but just to far of a drive. I found one place that sells online but they are not on the authorized dealer sale list.
Looking for info on Chain Audio A 5.4 speakers. Read about them a couple of days ago and can't find anything on them with search.
Would you recommend the Mica over the Sony sscs5?
I would. I have both, and both are great, but my ears prefer the RB42's.
@@artcoffeejeff Thank you. May ask what Amplifier are you using them with.
@@felixlaboy1453 I don't have an expensive, or even a powerful amplifier, but seems to do a fine job. Here's a link to it on Amazon. www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Audio-Amplifier-Integrated-BT30A-Silver/dp/B07K7NJ4QN
@@artcoffeejeff thank you very much buddy
What about the Micca MB42X ?
Having a hard time finding the sound that everyone likes about Miccas. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've tried the RB42's on a few different amps integrated 5.1 set to 2 channel my 45 watt power amp connected my a M200 using bluetooth for now and my SMSL AD-18 and I just don't hear the clarity and bottom end everyone is talking about. Maybe they need more power or I just need to turn them up more? I can't really turn them up where I live for the sound I'm looking for unfortunately so that stinks. I think I need a speaker that is more full and lively at lower listening levels. Do. You have any suggestions? Thank you.
The mb42x micca r awesome and r hella efficient
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Let us hear them for Christ sake!
Sound test?
Pioneer va Edifier RT ?
Can you compare these with Sony cs5 please
You should review the JBL powered studio monitors 305, 306, or 308.
good review
That's also like comparing a $1,300 mattress to a $999 mattress. Or a $130,000 house to a $99,000 house. The difference in price isn't insignificant. For someone with such a budget, you're asking them to forego a large basket of ramen noodles to get roughly equal audio in exchange. If the Micca doesn't kick the Pioneer's ass, give me the Pioneer and the noodles.
Micca is easily the better looking speaker
, try the Fluance SX-6.
absolutely fabulous speakers especially for the money. exactly the same as the Micca RB.in cost.
the Fluance has a 5 inch woofer and a gigantic box so they have good base & toneality to them. the tweeters are very bright when you first get them and the woofer is a little weak also so they need about 20 hours or so of burn in so to speak. I have the White pair, I love them.
I just posted that I returned the RB42s after purchasing them to replace the SX6s due to smaller size. The SX6 is in another class than the Micca RB42. It just is. Had mine since ~2014, I keep trying to better them, and I keep failing.
@Huds S Sorry, I have never heard the Pioneers, nor the Signature Series by Fluance. However, since returning the RB42's, I purchased a set of Emotiva B1+'s to try them out. I sent those back, as well. The SX6 is still king on my desk. I truly think it's the tweeter and the big box combo that make this speaker work. They call it a 1" soft dome, but it measures closer to 1.5" dia. Also, my SX6's are from 2014. As I understand it, Fluance has tweaked the SX6 to be a bit brighter now. Good luck to you.
The micca is better..much Fuller I tested both on my pioneer 440watts receiver
Way to jump right in the debate!
Which has more bass? Anyone?
I want those forte so bad but they are probably overkill for my apartment
I'm a hoarder so I'd probably wanna own both.
*You sound EXACTLY like ole boys character off of Oceans 13.The tech guy that had the messed up card shuffle machine... You speak EXACTLY-down to the tone and syllables; like him.*
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As a general rule there is a price I will never go below when it comes to speakers. These two speakers are below that point. They may be decent sounding speakers and they most likely are but you do get what you pay for. So I’m thinking more value for a little more dollars.
And you would be incorrect. These Miccas are fantastic. I bought them and let me tell you, they are incredible.
So you are saying the mica do not strip you ear drums with the Pioneer sharp peak, or that uncontrolled no musical slightly booming bass. For the money the pioneer is a fun occasional speaker to listen to. I own the pioneer BS 22s and the BS 21s as comparison
The pioneer can't handle the bass..the micca is just the one hell of a speaker and speaking of size the pioneer is just about the same size speaker it just the cabinet is bigger the micca is deeper in a small little box
So, to recap: The Pioneers reveal more information, will play louder, have superior base and cost significantly less (based on percentage), but the Micca is the winner. Got it.
83 db. No thanks dont need to have a 100 watt amp to drive tiny computer speakers. Deal breaker.
I am pretty sure MICCA also has a powered version of this speaker
100w amp can be better put with old 12" 3 way speakers
Buying gud speakers is worst than buying a car...you NEVER know wut you get until you set it up as home for a week or 2. Also the mark-up $$$ is HORRENDOUS for som brands! A $100 pair can sound just as gud or better than a $500 pair...and the average consumer doesn't know shite about sound quality. It's such a crap shoot when you go to stores and worst shopping online.
Steve how about playing some music on them while you tell us your reactions. A speaker is a machine that produces sound, just like a car is a machine made to be rolling on the streets.
@Daniel Combs It´s so he can play music and comment alone how he feels and his emotions with different genders of music. Its like reviewing a car. it is not meant to compare speakers as your computer´s speakers are different than mine.
Not as dynamic you say. Nm
Man play them
mica, q acoustics
Only talking no testing!
Yea too bad nobody can buy these !!!!!!
They are gone just like the jamo speakers, POOF , Gone. Sucks. Even micca website, gone but they do have the MTM version with two woofers and one tweeter.
They just started shipping today on Amazon (now up to $150)
Looks like q acoustics
Save up, buy better speakers.
Are they made in China steve?. Because if they are they must be rubbish.