Micca RB42 Sound Demo & Comparison vs Pioneer SP-BS22-LR vs Sony SS-CS5 vs ????
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2020
- Great speakers for their size. These are the best sounding little bookshelf speakers I've tested. Really the only flaw is their low efficiency, but this isn't enough to ruin them.
Sensitivity:
Micca RB42 = 83db
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR = 85db
Sony SS-CS5 = 87db
Sansui SP20000 = 93db - Наука та технологія
This is a basic audio comparison just to demonstrate the RB42's low sensitivity and laid back midrange. This is not a test of fidelity. The only way to know what speakers are going to sound like for you is to take them home and set them up in your room with your equipment. At a store and on UA-cam can't reproduce this.
Another nice review/demonstration. Thanks
I think what alot of reviewers miss about the rb42's is their compactness and by extension their versatility. I have them set up in a 2 channel stereo home theatre system along with a Yamaha receiver so they do double duty for music as well as tv speakers instead of a soundbar in my bedroom . Most other speakers are not ideal for this as they are too tall and will block the tv screen unless you mount the tv too high. And they fit fine with the receiver on my 4 foot wide dresser. So use case is also a very important factor and can be a big plus for the Miccas depending on your use case. Also the low bass extension negates the need for a sub in my bedroom so it's the perfect speaker for small rooms where space is an issue or rooms that have a dual purpose i.e. a bedroom with lots of other furniture where you don't necessarily have an ideal space for a sub. Really fantastic speakers for their size and price. Glad I went with the Miccas!
I bought mine FOR portability-- the sound quality was just a bonus.
The wife and I travel to remote places kayaking. We'll rent a cottage for a full week, and while you can always get a phone signal over the large bodies of water, you can rarely get internet. These tiny speakers along with powerful but tiny SMSL bluetooth amp bring full size sound to a smallish cottage.
You need a better way to distinguish which speaker is playing at a glance if we are to jump around the video and compare the sound.
Agreed, but I think he wants people to actually WATCH the video, not skip through it.
I guess we need to make our own time marks, or maybe someone could list them.
To be honest I don't like editing video, it can be quite time consuming, and frustrating...lol. But I understand and a visual indicator wohld be nice. I'll see if I can work in a easy fix, like a laser pointer....lol. Thanks for watching guys.
@@iowaudioreviews stick a piece of tissue near the dome 😊
Hi Can you please tell me what is the track you are playing at 5.08? Thanks
I currently have the Rb42 but hate that I have turn my receiver way up to get good volume. They do sound great! however, not a fan of that aspect. Do you recommend I upgrade to the SS-CS5s? Thanks for the demo, btw👊
I totally agree with your comparative review results/preferences. I own pairs of the Sony as well as the Pioneers. I also have the Fluance SX30s and Emotiva B1+. With all sensitivity ratings being similar (+/- 2 Db), I would rate these speakers accordingly: 1) Fluance SX30, 2) Emotiva B1+, 3) Sony SS-CS5 and 4) Pioneer BS22. I considered getting the Micca RB42s for a long time but glad I held off, even though they get great reviews.
Awesome video mate! Try to get your hands on the Cerwin-Vega SL-5M when you get the chance.
Good news I have a set on the way. Stayed tuned for review and sound demo vs the Sony CS5.
@@iowaudioreviews Wow you're the man. Keep up the great work!
i use 3x RB42C for a 3.1 setup. i love it.
you need timestamps dude. and an onscreen graphic to indicate which speakers are playing. You obviously put a lot of love into your channel but I"m not going to cue through a 26 minute video trying to find the information I need. Much love.
I know, I need to go back through all my videos and at least ad time stamps in the description. I've started adding them in my new videos, as I'm investing more time and effort in the channel. Thanks for watching!
Your voice sounds great. The Sonys seem to be almost krackling. when I listen to them. Weird.
You can't beat The Sony's for the price, great sounding speaker. I have 2 paired with the Sony subwoofer and they rock. Best buy online $75 on sale.
Would be interesting to hear the Rb42's adjusted to match volume of the others. It was also doing a ramping up phase each time you switched which seemed to take 1-2 seconds for the sound to fully kick in, which before I noticed, accentuated the difference in sensitivity a bit.
Its the stereo mic on my Galaxy S9. It auto adjusts because the loudness is changing when I switch speakers. IF the Rb42 had a typical sensitivity of 86 or 87db they would be near perfect little speakers for the price. The low sensitivity is really the only major con especially if like you audio louder and dont have lotts of watts. BUT for the average person they won't notice and will just enjoy the delicious audio they turn out. Still best compact Bookshelf Speaker out there.
@@iowaudioreviews I'm tempted to get them as my main front speakers for a budget small living room minimalist 5.1 setup, but the receiver I bought is a lower end Sony DH590, they claim 145W per channel @6 ohms (but in reality it's 90 watts RMS @ 6ohms). I'm a little worried about it having enough to power everything at the same time and concerned about volume output matching. I havent had the chance to try out the receiver yet so I'm not sure if I can control the volume of each channel separately. I was thinking of a pair of RB42s with a RB42-C or OoO as the center.
Another concern, even though I like that that the RB42's have decent lower end for a bookshelf, someone told me that its not good to crossover the same frequency ranges on different speakers in a setup, so if the sub is handling some of the same lower end frequencies the RB42's are, it can cause some mudding of the sound in that range because they're competing for that frequency space. I'm not sure how much that is true, but if so, maybe I'd be better off going with the Sony CS5's as my Front L/R.? or the cheaper MB42x. Or the Pioneers.
Thanks for putting these comparisons out there btw :)
@@paulyd0021 If you want to stay compact get good performance and not deal with the Rb42 issue I'd recommend using the the Mb42x for fronts and backs and then the Mb42x-c as the center. Even pick up a micca 10 or 12 sub should be a great system for cheap. Using all Mb series speakers you shouldn't have to adjust gain for each channel much unless your room/setup is wierd and not all speakers all fairly equal distance from the couch. For the sub use the LFE/RCA input and set the LFE in your reciever to 100hz. This sends freq above 100hz to the main speakers and everything under to the woofer. You don't want the small speaker dealing with to much of the low frequencies as it limits their ability and can damage them if you want to crank movies up. If you got a sub let it do the low end heavy lifting. Power wise 90w rms should be enough unless you want it quite loud and have a big room. The loudness difference from 90w to 145w is about 1db differences so even if the Sony was 145w rms you would really be able to tell. Look up a watt logarithmic chart. 90w is a good amount of power for most people in a typical living space.
@@iowaudioreviews is the reproduction accurate enough through s9 mic?
@@ah.l No, accurate sound reproduction isn't possible through UA-cam. Just for basic and obvious differences.
What receiver would you recommend I got the Sony speakers and I want to add surround speakers and a sub if you recommend any?
Well it always depends what you want to spend. For the surround speakers and center channels I'd just buy to more set of the CS5. For a great subwoofer on a budget Dayton Audio SUB-1200 or SUB-1500. This will give you a good 6.1 system. I've heard good things about Denon. I'd look in that direction maybe even pick up a new or used one off ebay. Again depends what features you want and your budget. I don't do surround I just have a pair of Sony CS5 powered by a little SMSL SA300 in my main room. Plenty good for TV for the wife. I don't watch much for TV or movies.
Would you recommend the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR at $80 over the Sony's?
No. They both sound great for the price but the Sony CS5 have better bass and midbass due to their larger woofer. The 4" woofer in the bs22 gets over whelmed at higher volumes in some music.
In my room, the Micca's are fantastic. I am driving them with a Yamaha A-S 301 integrated amp. They get way loud enough for me. It's difficult to review different speakers when the sensitivity ratings are so different. The Micca's were a knockout from the beginning. I absolutely love them.
Wanting to purchase the micca rub 42’s ! Thanks for telling me what amp your using
@@davemelnick6977 They are wonderful little wonders.
How will the micca's do as L/R in a small room? I'm making a small gaming room for the kids 5.1 got the micca rb42-c coming and I have a spare PSB imagine mini laying around Ill be using as surrounds. Or maybe use the PSB as L/R and get micca as surrounds as the PSB are much more of a high end bookshelf than micca. Whats your thoughts?
The RB42 will work great as front L/R. They are great speakers overall just require more power if you want to get them loud. A decent theater reciever should be able to drive them fine though. Otherwise just go with the MB42x.
@@iowaudioreviews I have an old yamaha aventage 2030 to run it its more than enough to power these small speakers.
I have all 3 and for my computer desk, near-field computer desk setup, the Sonys are fast and punchy, the Pioneers have a warmer sound and the Miccas are compact have become my home theater rears
I'd agree with that.
Thanks for this comparison, with this price range the difference is marginal.
I've always held back on the Pioneers simply because they look so cheap.
The miccas are holding their own well against those other speakers. Sony have more range but they are 60$ cnd more. With a good amp the 42's will perform well its all in the good crossover they are using. I use them for my outdoor projector setup with an smsl as300 amp and they give great sound. Besides they are more of a desktop speaker then a HT speaker. For the price of those sonies I would get a pair of wharfedal diamond 220 you can get a pair for 200$ cnd on ebay and they are one of the beat speakers on the market for under 500$.
Polk audio t15 or pioneer sp bs22?
Which is better?
I like clear audio, clean vocals, sharp instrumental sound. Bass is not my priority. Please help me
For the money Sony CS5, Pioneer BS22 then Polk T15.
@@iowaudioreviews dont get T15 those dont have the crossover. get the TSI 100, cost less than the others in the video but are better
need editing to see which speakers are playing on the screen.
Thanks for the comparison. The Fluance SX6 have comparable specs to the Sony SSCS5 and very curious how these two would stack up to each other.
I looked at the SX6 because I've heard good things about them, But there is already a few reviews on them so they'll have to wait. Another commenter mentioned the Cerwin Vega SL-5M and there are no reviews on them so I have those coming for review and comparison to the Sony CS5.
I have Sony's and SX6, I enjoy both, they have different sound flavor, if I have to choose one I think is the SX6, they sing great with all styles of music and sony some times it has a weak definition in voice, yes sony has a great big soundstage but some times they lost the definition of de voice in that soundstage, I hope to see your opinion of SX6 soon is a great cheap speaker.
noob here ... what amp(on budget) for sony ss-cs5? do they need a sub?
As always budget is the biggest factor. Do you like loud music that requires many watts? Do you want bluetooth built in? They do pretty good with no sub but one can always be added later on. A great affordable option with good features is the Pioneer SX10AE. Excellent affordable subs I go Dayton Audio or Monoprice.
@@iowaudioreviews Thanks! I do not like very loud music ... will have to see what options do I have. How about a Sony str-dh190?
@@iowaudioreviews Pioneer SX10AE is an "affordable option"? It's $500 on Amazon!
I thought the Pioneers sounded thin compared to the Miccas.
Do you have comparison of pioneer vs sony sscs5?
Yeah that's what I'm looking for
I have mentioned it in some of my other videos. I may just do a direct comparison.
those sonys sound good! Im upset they just increased the price across all vendors to 168 from the 118 and 73 dollars they were selling for :( thats what I get for waiting around too long I suppose.
My 1" laptop speakers really bring out the sound of your phone camera!
. . . on any of these smaller speakers, one needs a high pass filter, set at near 100hz . . . and a subwoofer like the Dayton Audio 8 and 10" models . . . I have RB-42s set up this way, driven by the Emotiva X-100 50 wpc, in a small 8 x 16' room, the filter takes the stress of repro under 100hz from them, and the powered subs do the down n dirty bass notes . . . works well in my modest system.
Miccas all the way, nice video🙉
The Miccas are 4 ohm speakers and the others are 8 ohm. When you change the speakers for the test you are having to change the volume. I own the Miccas and the longer I have used them the better they sound.
They do sound very good for such a compact speaker but having a very low efficiency (83db 1w/1m) and at 4 ohm is definitely undesirable for many buyers. But I still consider these a very successful speaker and punches above its price. Speakers are like engines, theres no replacement for displacement. Thanks for watching. My opinions are not definitive, just my opinion.
The Sony's are 6 ohm not 8.
Pioneers are 6 ohms…
Good compare, but to be fair that's a big space. If someone is buying these small Micca speakers for a desktop use or small bedroom system where space is limited they will fill the space beautifully because it's a smaller space. Your testing there in a large space relative to the little speakers. As I said though, good compare here.
Please make a sound demo of the Jbl stage A130
I will be making one comparing them with the Sony CS5 in a week or so. Thanks for watching.
@@iowaudioreviews I'm considering the Jbl over others in this! I would finalise my decision after your sound demo. Thanks a lot man!
Also please try and incorporate as much variety of genre in the test as possible it would really help!
Hello there! I do appreciate the kind of job you're trying to do here. We lack a lot of this in a world where we need to buy things online, without having the opportunity of listening to these speakers anymore. But, I'd like to let you know that the kind of music you chose for the A/B comparison is not good for the purpose at all. We dont get as much (how can I say this?) of a dynamic range out of it which means we are not able to tell if a great variety of frequencies are being well reproduced by the speaker. All I could hear with this song is a bunch of noises and that one speaker does louder noises than the other and that's not very revealing.
What I am trying to say is, you are going in the right direction because this kind of comparison is very useful although you should choose more songs like with an acoustic guitar, with singular human voices, things like a female singer doing jazz or a folk song really well played, and then, maybe, you could use some RnB, some soul music, but always keeping in mind that you need to play songs that will make the speakers reveal what they can do.
Also, I dont know what rig you're using for recording currently, but, what it is doing is record the acoustic of your room. It is not capturing the speaker itself. I know how expensive this might be, but if you can buy yourself a set of stereo mics (with a flat curve) and a professional recorder like the Teacs or the Zoom's ones, or even with the DAW in your computer (just like Zeos do) it would improve a lot the audio on your channel. Well, anyway, I dont know if I am being useful or not, but, I just wanted to point this out as someone who has been enjoying your videos and wishing you all success. Thanks for the information man!
This is not an audiophile test. This is a regular average customer test. How many customers that buy a bookshelf speaker of this price range are purchasing for hi fidelity? We just want an honest comparison on which is the best bang for the buck.
@@hotelpv Well, sir, if that's all you want, then why do you need a sound demo for? Just take somebody else's words for it and go shopping. I am trying to give the guy some good feedback on his audience to help him go on with his business. And I figure that you dont know about this, but the Jammo's, the Micca's and the Sony's he's talking abt are considered very audiophile bargain's in the market right now.
I agree on some things. I do these videos with a Samsung Galaxy S9 since it has decent 1080p video and built in stereo mics. I would use a stereo mic setup but my channel is small and I have a full time job, family and remodeling a house so my time is limited. On the other hand there is no point in trying to facilitate a true audio test through UA-cam, its just not possible. I don't compare all the speakers I review, only the ones I know people will easily be able to notice a difference. I felt the RB42 would be a good speaker to demonstrate low sensitivity compared to other bookshelf speakers and high sensitivity of large speakers. My next comparison I'll use more than one song. At the same time trying to keep my videos under 30 minutes LOL. In the future if my channel grows I may consider a patreon or somthing so I can improve some things. Thanks, I always appreciate kind feedback.
the thing witht the rb42 bass is so crisp ... so i think for bass rb42 sound d best by far. it's remind me people who like beats headphone r n b or hip hop you need something like rb42 ... if you listening to other type of music the other will do i guess better .....
Polk TSI 100 $149 (dont get the T15, it has no crossover) and the Neumi BS5 $99 are better value at their price points IMO.
10:33 Micca vs Pioneer
16:33 Micca vs Sony
The Micas are less fatiguing than all of those speakers. You could clearly hear the Sansui, Sony, Pioneers are brighter and more fatiguing.
can you put good songs like Z reviews channel he doesnt see mt oget copyrighted.
I got Sony SS-CS5 for 90$ and they worth more than 250$. Easy to drive . They are absolutely fantastic for a 2nd system. I had Micca MB42x and they were overhyped crap..
. . . You have to give them equal gain to make a fair comparison. Otherwise, it's an unfair comparison, you must have instant efficiency equalization, or the most easily driven will trick the ear into believing it's actual overall sound quality is better, when it plays 3 or so db louder. Balanced output is a must if doing A/B comparisons.
Micca is far more superior than Sony n Pioneer. Its sound is much more refined n pleasing to my ears.Period!!
At least in this sound demo. In reality if you had all 3 like I have you might change your mind. The RB42 do sound great but the 83db sensitivity is ridiculous. Z Reviews blew them out of proportion and hyped the crap out of them. For the money they're not that impressive.
@@iowaudioreviews Thank you for this, after hearing the z reviews sound tests it appeared that the RB42 sounded much better, but after seeing your direct side by side comparisons, I realized that UA-cam was normalizing the volume on the z review Sony sound test video by -3.3 dB, while normalizing -1.9 dB on the RB42 sound test video. Also, the video on the z review sony sound test was recorded at a lower volume than the RB42.
Those Sansui speakers sound God-awful (no offence). Those Pioneers are surprisingly good, particularly at the price they can be had on the used market (I've bought and tried them for a while).
Nice video! The Pioneer is overrated, sounds muffled and colored
sony over power the micca coz its bigger. But micca is awesome
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Use www.riffnwolf.bandcamp.com 300 + songs to choose from...I give you my express consent since I own the music unless it's a cover or an alternate version of a cover.
Volume 11
The Sansui speakers are louder, but that's all they have going for them. They sound like a cheap Japanese transistor radio from the 60s.
My phone sounds better than all of those speakers!! What mic you use, your phones mic?
I would love for you to compare the Micca RB42 (now $149.99 on amazon) to the Q Acoustic 3020 (now $149 on amazon) - the are both very close in size and specs - the RB42 being much heavier / denser 🤠🤷🏻