EUGENE DEFENDS ALAN SHORE AT DISBARMENT HEARING

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • The Practice season 8 episode 3, streaming on hulu.

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  • @Nimno74
    @Nimno74 2 роки тому +210

    Eugene was one of the few characters that should have been saved when the show was cancelled. If he had popped up in Boston Legal as a regular, that would have been justice.

  • @maurobertolone5198
    @maurobertolone5198 Рік тому +5

    "EUGENE!" - Alan Shore, in Eugene's first case as a Court Judge

    • @SeansModelBuilds
      @SeansModelBuilds Рік тому

      Ruining Eugene Young's first case as a judge. Salt in the Wound after bankrupting his firm?

  • @boedillard8807
    @boedillard8807 2 роки тому +14

    That's the problem with the "legal" system. You can't have justice when the priority is the technicality of the law; it should be what is morally right.

    • @Ares99999
      @Ares99999 2 роки тому +7

      Except what is 'morally right' differs from person to person.

    • @seanswinton6242
      @seanswinton6242 2 роки тому +2

      @@Ares99999 I agree totally. Many US laws are old, outdated and need to be either purged or updated to fit the times. Many states still have laws on the books forbidding interracial marriage, but it's not generally enforced in spite of federal law. The Constitution itself was written when Black people were considered and categorized as 3/5 human resulting in society at that time seeing them as animals. That in their minds justifies killing Black people, their prejudices, stereotypes, and believing Black people are inferior. Laws for J walking and Truency, unlawful driving procedures, are also written but not enforced. Using laws in court here in this case is justifiable and likely will lead to change following this ruling.

    • @PR--un4ub
      @PR--un4ub 2 роки тому

      Morals inform laws and laws inform morals.

    • @shawnwilt7196
      @shawnwilt7196 2 роки тому

      While I agree you have to look at the idea of "morality". Morality is literally something that changes over time due to a whole slew of factors.
      Current events right now are a good example
      30 years ago a pedophile and child rapist was almost unanimously agreed to as a "immoral" and a criminal, but now there is huge movement to decriminalize this because people are claiming that it and the people who do it are not bound by "your morality". This is how morality is eroded and one day suddenly child rapists are a socaily acceptable thing because they don't identify as belonging to "your morality".
      Morality should play a part in the law, but morality based law is a hugely slippery slope that is always pushing down the slope.

  • @roshandmatabick6676
    @roshandmatabick6676 2 роки тому +1

    Eugene to alan, that will cost you a slice of pie

  • @pamheumphreus9166
    @pamheumphreus9166 Рік тому

    Agree!

  • @PotGooiSuiderland
    @PotGooiSuiderland 2 роки тому

    I REALLY DIDN'T enjoy the transition from 'the Practice' to 'Boston Legal'. Both exceptional shows, amazing characters with moral standing, emotional intelligence, legal knowledge, and caring hearts, and 'the Practice' as a whole thrown under the bus to make the transition, leaving 'the Practice' team looking less than they were portrait to be throughout the years that the show ran.

  • @casey6556
    @casey6556 2 роки тому +268

    “That is an obscure rule that’s never been used before”
    Sure, but it covers THIS EXACT SITUATION

    • @vyse102
      @vyse102 2 роки тому +27

      That irritated me SO GODDAMN BAD. A young woman goes to jail for a heinous murder she was manipulated into confessing to by her father, said father is known to have committed the crime by someone who "violates" attorney-client privilege, you have to bring him to trial for this violation, someone shows up out of the ether and hands you an exemption that exonerates the man who did this noble deed... and your first instinct is to *FIGHT THE EXEMPTION?!*

    • @DPCerberusBlaze
      @DPCerberusBlaze 2 роки тому +8

      ​@@vyse102 ostensibly, challenging the exemption strengthens it actually since it's never been scrutinized.

  • @thomasmcginnis3783
    @thomasmcginnis3783 2 роки тому +234

    OMG, Steve Harris is such a *fine* fine actor. Literal goosebumps. And the reaction shots -- so well done and so nicely edited. What a great drama. How did I miss this episode?!? THANK YOU for posting!

    • @RoonMian
      @RoonMian 2 роки тому +4

      Spader looks almost distressed at the high esteem Eugene holds him in.
      Which really comes to a head later when they have that horrible falling out and face each other in court.

  • @lamlanisibanda9646
    @lamlanisibanda9646 2 роки тому +69

    Few people are equipped with the ability to separate their feelings about someone and standing up for the truth or what is right!
    Now imagine Eugene defending someone that he actually likes!

  • @GdpJapan
    @GdpJapan 2 роки тому +109

    Can’t get any better. They were talking about things 15 years ago that are so much true now… Spader is a great actor, but the scriptwriting is just beyond everything.

  • @StsFiveOneLima
    @StsFiveOneLima 2 роки тому +121

    "It is there. It is written."
    I both hate and love the legal profession, but specifically I love it when such things occur. IT IS WRITTEN. It is of the Law.

  • @orangefox1231
    @orangefox1231 2 роки тому +252

    The bar lawyers really tick me off this episode. You don’t see it here as much but in later clips, they treat Shore with blatant disgust and contempt for his actions. Except all he did was exonerate an innocent teen girl who was manipulated by her father into confessing that she murdered her mother and unborn baby brother. He gets off by putting her in prison. So Shore reported it. Law schools even preach that it’s better to have 9 guilty people go free than 1 innocent person be wrongfully incarcerated. So what Eugene said was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! Alan Shore was just and noble in his action. These bar lawyers can take their condescension and shove it

    • @dwightlove3704
      @dwightlove3704 2 роки тому +15

      The look on the face of Shore was priceless he should have bought that man a STEAK DINNER.

    • @kekeke4467
      @kekeke4467 2 роки тому +9

      The problem was that Shore had a duty to as a fiduciary to act in the best interests of his client. by acting in the best interests of another party after the wrongful thing had occurred (which is different if he had knowledge that the wrongful thing was going to occur) he placed his own moral interest and the practical interest of another over his client who's interest he was bound to place above all else. While in this particular instance the system lead to a unjust outcome there are many instances where upholding the principle leads to just outcomes. I work outside of the united states and have seen how exceptions to the principal of solicitor client privilege have lead to clients unwilling to disclose matters to their lawyers which have lead to them being convicted of more serious offences for fear of being convicted of lesser offences which are socially embarrassing.

    • @orangefox1231
      @orangefox1231 2 роки тому +21

      @@kekeke4467 Don't get me wrong. I am not advocating that lawyers be allowed across the board to violate their clients' secrets. But these guys act like, "Oh you did this to save a pre-pubescent child from serving a live sentence for murdering her mother and unborn brother, which her father did instead and then manipulated her to take the fall to save daddy," doesn't make a bit of difference in how they should view his conduct and it really ticks me off.
      And I've watched the series. Technically, it wasn't his client directly. It was his colleagues' Eleanor and Jamie's client. The client in question let his daughter falsely confess then at the end of the episode, he nonchalantly confessed that it was actually he who murdered his wife and unborn son, got his daughter to confess and now he wanted them to do their best to get her out now in spite of her confession. Eleanor was very angry and shook by this. Even said to Jamie that they had to find a way to get him because he used them etc.
      Alan and Eleanor go way back to law school. Eleanor was over at his house; they were having a drink after a long day. She told him lawyer-to-lawyer about what the father did to the girl. Alan, who doesn't care if he gets disbarred, he follows his moral code, then went to the DA and exposed the secret.
      I get why privilege is called privilege and it's sacrosanct. But there are some things that no reasonable person can be mandated to abide by and an injustice of that magnitude is one of them.

    • @orangefox1231
      @orangefox1231 2 роки тому +13

      @@kekeke4467 And one more thing. This is me using legal logic so bear with me, but you said "which is different if he had knowledge that the wrongful thing was going to occur," and you're correct. A future crime is not privileged information or else lawyers would be hired as shields for criminal organizations to freely discuss their plans around and call it privileged. In that same vein of logic, I would argue adamantly that the secret that the daughter lied on the stand to protect her father is in fact an ongoing present-day and future crime in motion as it pertains to her future of a life as a wrongfully convicted person. I don't know if that would fly, but that's my justification for violating the privilege. To prevent an ongoing crime of unlawful imprisonment

    • @TheChickenlittle11
      @TheChickenlittle11 2 роки тому +4

      Orange Fox I just read this comment in my head with Alan shores voice and read it as one of his closing statements that he always does to a jury.

  • @lynnerose7891
    @lynnerose7891 2 роки тому +59

    This is what made the end of the show so hard to watch bc you know they weren’t actually hateful towards each other. I miss this show.

  • @jacksonmarshallkramer5087
    @jacksonmarshallkramer5087 2 роки тому +59

    Not sure who this Steve Harris is, but Eugene was brilliant. That was a HUGE moment for Alan. He's all about loyalty.

    • @seanswinton6242
      @seanswinton6242 2 роки тому +9

      Steve Harris is the older brother of actor Wood Harris who you may remember from films like "Above The Rim", "Remember The Titians", "Space Jam 2" and HBO's "The Wire". Steve Harris is known for his film roles in : "Diary Of A Mad Black Woman", "Bringing Down The House" , TV roles on "The Practice", the latest Law and Order series and Black Mafia Family.

    • @reelsoffortuneslotsplay4267
      @reelsoffortuneslotsplay4267 2 роки тому +1

      He and his brother, Wood Harris (Avon Barksdale from the Wire, Julius in Remember the Titans) are just great presenters and revealers of emotion

  • @emdee7744
    @emdee7744 2 роки тому +46

    Seriously, though, this is what is wrong with the "legal system", and practice. It operates based on who can wield the words most persuasively, not what is right.
    Twice I hired attorneys to fight unfair tickets, and twice I got favorable results at great financially burdensome cost, I may add. Twice I tried to defend myself against unfair tickets because I couldn't afford a lawyer, and lost.

    • @jefff3886
      @jefff3886 Рік тому +2

      Not cracking on you, I just wanted to point out this old quote that bears on your situation.
      "A man who acts as his own lawyer, has a fool for a client."
      - Mark Twain
      It shows that this problem has been around for a very long time. To be honest, the system no longer serves We The People, if it ever did. Like many other institutions, it serves the money.

  • @ShusekiShihan
    @ShusekiShihan 2 роки тому +10

    They don't make tv show like this anymore!

  • @dwightlove3704
    @dwightlove3704 2 роки тому +33

    The look on the face of Shore was priceless

    • @nunya3163
      @nunya3163 2 роки тому +3

      Brilliant acting, without speaking a word.

  • @stevenator0281
    @stevenator0281 Рік тому +13

    Eugene was always one of my favorite characters on the show.

  • @JohnDoe-zj6xf
    @JohnDoe-zj6xf 2 роки тому +12

    In spite of all that Eugene still hated Alan's guts.

  • @RobSchofield
    @RobSchofield 2 роки тому +17

    With this quality of writing, it's no wonder it's such a consistently excellent show. Superb.

  • @dcomp420
    @dcomp420 2 роки тому +8

    "Your client confessed he is a murderer and now you are in the wrong for admitting that"
    Tell me again how the system isn't broken

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 2 роки тому

      I mean... it's a pretty simple concept: in an adversarial system like we have, you have to be able to talk to your lawyer without worrying that your lawyer is going to incriminate you. If we had a system like the UK it would be different.

  • @andyman8630
    @andyman8630 2 роки тому +6

    this is why so many refer to it as the *Injustice System*
    and i hold myself in Contempt, because the entire system is utterly, completely and incurably Contemptible

  • @YD-uq5fi
    @YD-uq5fi Рік тому +3

    And a few months later Alan destroys Eugene's entire firm.

  • @TheOmegaRiddler
    @TheOmegaRiddler 2 роки тому +17

    He declared Alan Shore Just, then ripped him off later. What does that say about him.

    • @JohnDoe-zj6xf
      @JohnDoe-zj6xf 2 роки тому

      mild hypocrite😁

    • @raskal8578
      @raskal8578 2 роки тому

      It says they were squabbling over who would be the head peacock, because friendly lawyers squabble and dont hit each other. Lol

  • @normancarter5419
    @normancarter5419 2 роки тому +9

    NOTE: Every state has a "CRIME/FRAUD EXCEPTION" in the Lawyers' Rules of Professional Responsibility and their Criminal and Civil Codes in certain situations where lawyers can violate attorney/client privilege and report their client to the proper authorities for certain crimes and frauds they have committed or are planning to commit.

  • @antmagor
    @antmagor 2 роки тому +24

    I would further submit that lawyers are not allowed to lie, that is to say they cannot lie when they’re presenting arguments in court. And they cannot put a witness on the stand if they know that that witness is going to lie when under oath. Doing so legally means that you are an an accessory to perjury. One could argue Alan was acting in his duties as an officer of the court, that to remain silent would make him an accessory to his clients attempt to fraud the System.

  • @Armatige
    @Armatige 2 роки тому +2

    Never ever liked Eugene. But that was because he was played so bloody well by Harris. Truth to tell....I kinda never liked any of the characters in that show, with the exception of Alan and one or two others.

  • @personmcperson4440
    @personmcperson4440 Рік тому +3

    When a man turns an adversary into a friend, he gains my respect.

  • @madcapmagician3130
    @madcapmagician3130 2 роки тому +7

    Should someone tell James Spader that his side burns are different lengths?

    • @YD-uq5fi
      @YD-uq5fi 2 роки тому

      That is probably deliberate, knowing him.

  • @teniola9304
    @teniola9304 2 роки тому +3

    "Privilege is fundamental to the system."
    Alan Shore.

  • @al-bot1094
    @al-bot1094 2 роки тому +3

    D-Denny Crane...?

  • @sizwekoomtheMc
    @sizwekoomtheMc 2 роки тому +9

    Thank u for sharing this, I love James Spader so much.

  • @josephmassaro
    @josephmassaro 2 роки тому +21

    "Dammit, I really wanted to get disbarred." - Alan Shore

  • @TheKamikaziButterfly
    @TheKamikaziButterfly 2 роки тому +3

    Badass. So many parallels in so many other professions and circumstances. Hard not to see the hypocrisy in so many other situations.

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 2 роки тому +7

    That was so so so cool.

  • @rael7298
    @rael7298 2 роки тому +1

    Mmmmhmmm

  • @BroJ3221
    @BroJ3221 2 роки тому +3

    Steve Harris is incredible

  • @corykelley786
    @corykelley786 2 роки тому +1

    My God the court has been corrupted by politics

  • @caesarforlife1663
    @caesarforlife1663 2 роки тому +4

    What great writers this show had.

  • @raskal8578
    @raskal8578 2 роки тому +1

    That one statute was enough to exonerate Shaw, the fact it existed with such specificity is actually laughable, but hey i wouldnt be surprised to see it in massachussettes law.

    • @jezalb2710
      @jezalb2710 2 роки тому

      It was not a statute. It was Rules of Professional Conduct.

  • @sardoggy
    @sardoggy 2 роки тому +2

    wow, great argument. great performance. perfect execution

  • @stevensmith8923
    @stevensmith8923 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic

  • @GUNTHERSHELL
    @GUNTHERSHELL 2 роки тому +19

    That is a great scene. Makes me want to buy the 8th season of the Practice.

    • @saurabhmhjn
      @saurabhmhjn 2 роки тому +1

      It's on Hulu

    • @orangefox1231
      @orangefox1231 2 роки тому +2

      Do it. It’s worth every penny

    • @RonBand01
      @RonBand01 Рік тому

      The 8th Season was a great season for many reasons. Presentations like this were seldom seen in in seasons 5-6 and 7. David E. Kelly knew that he was ending this series for Boston Legal and I guess he wanted to go out with a "bang," Of course it was the lead in for the next series but the trial of Alan Shore was outstanding !

  • @RandallHallKaizenReiki
    @RandallHallKaizenReiki 2 роки тому +22

    How many times do you think Eugene kicked himself over this later on in the season?

    • @SlimThrull
      @SlimThrull 2 роки тому +6

      @@jenniferstarrwolf2602 Completely agree. Eugene knows what he is doing now is just. Things between him and Allen my change later, but his act was still one of justice and fairness.

  • @himzalvin4278
    @himzalvin4278 2 роки тому +1

    Last time i had goosebumps like this... my crush finally kissed me.😎

  • @ralph0901
    @ralph0901 2 роки тому +1

    recently have been watching clips of this show, a whole lot of wonderful acting and writing going on

  • @unclefester9113
    @unclefester9113 2 роки тому +1

    Sometimes I don't know which I miss more - NYPD BLUE - or the Practice. Both - have set a very durable high bar that may never be matched again.

    • @jefff3886
      @jefff3886 Рік тому

      If you enjoy top-level scriptwriting, may I recommend Star Trek: Deep Space 9. Avery Brooks delivers amazing performance after amazing performance, with some of the most legendary writers in the business, and also a great supporting cast. The first couple of seasons have a lot of backstory and world building, but by the time you get to Season 3, all the pieces are in place and the show is really rolling, and it's some of the best TV out there.
      Disclaimer: This comment made by a hard core Trek fan, your mileage may vary.
      Live long and prosper!

  • @waynefarrellvoiceovers
    @waynefarrellvoiceovers 2 роки тому +3

    Brilliant acting

  • @dannycassinellibarac9993
    @dannycassinellibarac9993 Рік тому

    He is just becouse he did something nobody else would have done or becouse he did something that upset privilege and status quo? Just as balance is not something you achieve by thinking or arguing or even because the environment tells you you are that.

  • @julialeite6923
    @julialeite6923 2 роки тому

    Yes, we must learn to assess whether something is moral, legal, or ethical first in all things. Attorneys must take an ethics curriculum. So they all know what they should do. The just ones are few and far between. Why? Because they are weak and can be bought. Money is the root of evil unless it is possessed by a just, strong person. My advice is learn not to compromise what you know is right. Like the character Alan Shore.

  • @codedusting
    @codedusting 2 роки тому

    In the end, everything was destroyed for money. So realm

  • @dcomp420
    @dcomp420 2 роки тому +2

    We need a revolution

  • @douglasskinner6348
    @douglasskinner6348 2 роки тому +4

    If Alan knows his client has indeed committed a crime, he is under legal obligation to report it to the Court or be held liable as a co-conspirator. It's the same line as knowing your client is a big time drug dealer. Alan legally did the right thing and can't be disbarred for it. If the client maintains their innocence despite the evidence, Alan has to maintain confidentiality; however, upon admission of guilt, he either has to work on a deal or get his client to plead guilty. He can't let someone else take the fall, especially if his client arranged for it.

    • @Rabithebengali
      @Rabithebengali 2 роки тому +2

      if the lawyer knows about a crime in the future. If his client tells him about a crime he committed, it can't be revealed, unless a life or injury is at risk

  • @MrJamberee
    @MrJamberee 2 роки тому

    Alan Shore was unable to make that argument? This is a silly script.

  • @TheSuper10dulkar
    @TheSuper10dulkar 2 роки тому +6

    Aside from the sometimes overbearing sexist remarks and inappropriate work place behaviour it promotes , this series is one of the best !

  • @Alpha4Sierra
    @Alpha4Sierra 2 роки тому +1

    Damn.

  • @patwatkins2952
    @patwatkins2952 2 роки тому +1

    WOW!!!!

  • @MrBonddaddy
    @MrBonddaddy 2 роки тому +4

    Well done indeed

  • @robertmoore6149
    @robertmoore6149 2 роки тому +7

    There was no more dialogue, because he dropped mic and walked away. He so owned them.

  • @thomasmcginnis3783
    @thomasmcginnis3783 Рік тому

    "Mic drop!"

  • @litabrooker7872
    @litabrooker7872 Рік тому

    I'm crying.

  • @outermarker5801
    @outermarker5801 2 роки тому +1

    Great show, but looking at these old clips....JS is kind of a one trick actor. Same inflections, demeanor, even that thing he does with his mouth....this is a young Red

  • @robertiravonga559
    @robertiravonga559 2 роки тому

    Engine Young

  • @markhenderson9801
    @markhenderson9801 2 роки тому +1

    Defence lawyer would rather have a 100 guilty people go free than a not guilty person go to Jain and eat at their souls for the rest of time

  • @antondelacruz9362
    @antondelacruz9362 2 роки тому +2

    So if it is legally and morally correct, then alan shore is overwhelmingly in the right and all the tension is fake and unnecessary.

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 2 роки тому

      It's a TV drama. Duh? 🤣

  • @stephenbruce1548
    @stephenbruce1548 2 роки тому +1

    Man did Eugene here fuck up....

  • @michaelmccarthy2840
    @michaelmccarthy2840 2 роки тому +2

    That Was Awesome.

  • @ianbrewer4843
    @ianbrewer4843 2 роки тому +1

    Great clip

  • @hmmmmmmminteresting
    @hmmmmmmminteresting 2 роки тому

    Eugene better character and actor than overrated Alan Shore.

  • @sirrykr1679
    @sirrykr1679 2 роки тому

    Good TV shows and movies about the US legal system make me so greatful I am NOT an American. I would never want to live there, though I admit there are places there it would be interesting to visit. Especially the Rocky Mountains.

  • @jackmyers8687
    @jackmyers8687 2 роки тому +13

    Fun fact: In the UK there's no such thing as "client privilege" so if the Barrister/Solicitor knows your guilty they have to make that information available to the court.

    • @madlion1988redeemer
      @madlion1988redeemer 2 роки тому +1

      A FACT that is usually ignored by all American citizens, our legal system was built by acknowledged criminals of their time.
      Much of the legal system was composed to protect illegal activities.

    • @TheMaleRei
      @TheMaleRei 2 роки тому +3

      Then - then what's the point?
      The client has to lie to the lawyer - kinda hard to form a defense against that, one would think.
      So, does it go something like this?
      "Yo, yo on-uh, oh, I means, muh lud, yeah - uhhhh, my client just admitted to me that he did it. So, case closed, time for a pint, eh?"

    • @SlimThrull
      @SlimThrull 2 роки тому

      How on Earth do Barristers defend clients that they know to be guilty?

    • @Wiggles4396
      @Wiggles4396 2 роки тому +8

      Fun fact you're wrong. Client privilege very much exists in the UK. It is called the duty of confidentiality but it must be balanced with the duty of disclosure where a lawyer can break confidentiality if its in the public interest to do so. I'm a lawyer, client privilege very must exists

    • @kelanjames8429
      @kelanjames8429 2 роки тому

      Lucky bastards we could fix so much crime if we adopted that policy