I love that this means that Harvey not only cared enough to pay ahead of time without knowing the bill, but he also took the time to find out (read: ask Donna) where Mike was planning to have the dinner so he could go in early and pay.
I’m pretty sure he just told Donna to take care of it. She literally has his card and buys her own “bday” gifts. Although it’s possible he made a discreet appearance. You never know with Harvey.
@@manuelpinzon7207 so, as a lawyer, have you ever had one of your seniors just sleep around with a bunch women like everyday of the week but has a policy of not sleeping with married women?
@@AlezanDeerHis brother was worse than Mike, when Harvey was in law school his biological brother was getting into high 6 figure debts that Harvey had to pay off. He was never a brother to Harvey just a parasite.
@@DaveDexterMusic It's just not the bill, it's caring enough to make Mike see that things like the Rookie Dinners matter. Harvey says that he doesn't care about anyone, but drops occasional solid advice. It helped Mike a lot in the long run.
@@honor9lite1337 If you can watch this whole series and that's your summary of Harvey, then you not only missed the boat, you didn't even see the ocean.
Rachel was a nothing from start to end. Didn’t like her childishness, her attempts to manipulate, her physical abuse (slapping) or her creepy jealousy of Mike and Harvey’s close relationship.
Considering it's New York, everyone has expensive tastes AND they were really unwise with the drink orders, $180-odd plus tip per person is... still expensive, but not as much as I was expecting
@@OMARWATCHES For a large group event, corporate entertaining, with alcohol, in NYC? $250/head isn't an unusual budget. What's unrealistic is that no company would expect the associate to pick up the bill (well, maybe on the night, but it would ultimately be reimbursed through expenses)
$180 per person is "still expensive"? Wow, New York might not be that bad. It's what I would pay in my corner of the world (which is Eastern Europe) for fancy dinner with expensive wines.
Harvey is such a big bro, advices the kid on hosting the best dinner with advice on making the best impression and pays for the thing too bcz he cares too much... This season taught me more about life and loyalty and covenant bonds than society, college, workplace...
This is proper leadership. Guide w proper experience, ride then relatively hard w work to make sure they can handle it before advancing… and when all is said and done the reward is picking up the $10k check
Harvey really did teach Mike a lot, I hate to say it but I think if Mike secret came out in season 1 he would've never fallen on the sword to save Harvey. Harvey shaped Mike and showed him what loyalty really is. In my belief that's why he took the deal later on
I cried when I saw this for the first time. Harvey knew his history and knew he would never be able to take care of this tab. That’s why he humbly paid it all. I had a manager like this years back. Best 3 years we had killing the market. People who understand what their people can do are invaluable
If I correctly remember. While Harvey was hiring Mike he mentioned that he should give Mike $25,000 just as a signing bonus. So considering that the dinner was appropriately expensive as most people there were earning alot more than that.
@@ichbinda1998 Yeah i remember that but not everybody knew about that so for them he had not spent his signing bonus on anyone. Which was another reason people expected him to pay but Harvey who knew about the situation cleared the tab.
@@suryanshmittal9400people wouldn't know about the signing bonus, but it's mentioned/implied later in season 1 just how much associates at pearson hardman actually make, so a 10,000 dollar dinner shouldnt be too far out of their ballpark, especially since harvey was willing to throw in a 25k signing bonus without a second thought
This is how you run up a restaurant tab: it's not the food, it's the drinks that make it expensive. And a $1712 tip automatically added on is a service of the house, so you don't have to bother with the math.
5.07 You gotta appreciate the hardwork that goes into making these series. Getting it all perfect....The directors show that Rachel is holding wine glass from the stem while Ross grabs the bowl and sips not knowing the correct way to hold that glass, being the rookie in food culture that he is.
My company has these after first years get their bonuses. It’s a way to pay your seniors back for their hard work and mentorship, and shows that you’re there for the long run. Mine is in March and I’m actually kind of excited
what an absolute BS move expecting a rookie employee to give up about 10% of their annual salary to host a bourgeoise dinner for their colleagues. pro sports teams do this, but it's for a much smaller amount/percentage. and not with the purpose to see how stuck up everyone can be.
10%? Do all americans make 100k a year minimum? Always blows my mind, considering many families in South and Eastern Europe have savings less than what this dinner cost.
the whole "rookie" having to pay for things always seemed bizarre to me.... I guess in some fields it's tradition but doesn't make it right. when I have med students and new doctors come through the office I always make sure that they are being taken care of... I couldn't imagine asking them to take me out to dinner
IDK what this show is or how I got here, but I paused on the restaurant receipt and it's hilarious. 5 martinis for nearly $180, OK, those are expensive restaurant prices. But then the 3 daiquiris (which would be harder for the bartender to make) come in at ~$8 a pop??? Is this an Applebees?? Finally, it's cut off but looks like 32 premium scotches were ordered for less than $1 a glass? I know it's just a silly prop for a half-second shot but made me laugh.
It shows especially when at the end the tab was almost 11k and Harvey secretly paid it already and didn't advertise it taking the credit away from Mike. He actually wanted to see him succeed 😊❤
10,600 for so many associates isn’t that much. I’ve easily spent a few hundred dollars ordering the cheapest items in the affordable restaurants in downtown Los Ángeles. I’d expect 20k+
@@theonlyrealrobin4602 I ate at those restaurants in 2013. Lol but I get you. No way I can afford them nowD or would I try. I only went there for a girl I used to know 🤣😂
I don’t get it. Why would a firm make a rookie pay for this dinner? That’s insane. I assume the rookie has to plan it out but the firm will pay for it.
As a software test automation engineer, when I went to 10.30 AM on my last job of 2 years. As a beginner. No one questioned me managers etc. I realized why when I left the job. I was valuable. They didnt want me to leave.
I watched this for the first time when I was a 2nd year law student, and didn’t get what the fuss was about. As a practicing lawyer watching this scene again, I only now understand that what Harvey said about caring things that “don’t matter”, is absolutely true.
If I had watched this as a 2nd year law student, I would have known to drop out, instead of continuing on, graduating, getting a litigation job, and being miserable for the next 13 years. DO NOT. GO. TO LAWSCHOOL. DO NOT. BECOME A LAWYER.
Rewatching this as a law student and it's cool to catch references you didn't the first time, like that he can't go to a certain restaurant because it's a "Wachtell Lipton" client, with Wachtell being the real life firm that Pearson Hardman is based on!
@@fabsi154 it’s terrible. The litigation process is unfair and incredibly inconsistent. The actual facts of the case aren’t just HARD to present, both opposing counsel and the legal process are dedicated to preventing the actual facts from being heard. Also, litigators, especial insurance defense counsel, are the most insufferable people on the planet and you will have to work very closely with them for months on end. The business model is also difficult. If you work plaintiff side, you don’t get paid unless you win, and you never know if you’ll win. So each case is 12-24 months of absolutely infuriating work that you might not get paid for. You can easily go 9 or 12 months without getting paid at all. Or, if you’re on the defense side, you have to meet your billing hours quota bringing pointless motions and doing everything in your power to prevent the facts from getting to the jury. I just took a CLE on lawyer mental health. Lawyers have the highest level of suicide, alcoholism, and depression of any professional career. They said that unless 90% of your cases have two of the three following attributes, your practice will be unsustainable: (1) you work with people you do not have personality conflicts with (including opposing counsel and your clients); (2) you are working in an area of law that interests you; (3) the case is either fully paid or intentional pro bono. I can safely say that NONE of my cases had 2 out of those 3. I barely had any cases with 1. I cannot express how much I hated doing that. And I did it for 13 years!
@@fabsi154 it’s terrible. The litigation process is unfair and incredibly inconsistent. The actual facts of the case aren’t just hard to present, both opposing counsel and the legal process are dedicated to preventing the actual facts from being heard. Also, litigators, especial insurance defense counsel, are the most insufferable people on the planet and you will have to work very closely with them for months on end. The business model is also difficult. If you work plaintiff side, you don’t get paid unless you win, and you never know if you’ll win. So each case is 12-24 months of absolutely infuriating work that you might not get paid for. You can easily go 9 or 12 months without getting paid at all. Or, if you’re on the defense side, you have to meet your billing hours quota bringing pointless motions and doing everything in your power to prevent the facts from getting to the jury. I just took a CLE on lawyer mental health. Lawyers have the highest level of suicide, alcoholism, and depression of any professional career. They said that unless 90% of your cases have two of the three following attributes, your practice will be unsustainable: (1) you work with people you do not have personality conflicts with (including opposing counsel and your clients); (2) you are working in an area of law that interests you; (3) the case is either fully paid or intentional pro bono. I can safely say that none of my cases had 2 out of those 3. I barely had any cases with 1. I cannot express how much I hated doing that. And I did it for 10 years!
That's how you know he's not faking it. The anticipation threw off his whole night. Can't bring a lady friend back because of the possible gastrointestinal issues becoming a matter of gossip.
“Expensive wine” Dinner for 50 associates = 10k - gratuity, that’s like 175$ each. I spent that on my birthday this year. I was expecting a 50-100k dinner.
And to be fair, it’s common courtesy and sense to try NOT to run up the bill too much. There was no need for Louis to order the expensive wines. He’s an idiot. Period
10k is a lot of money, but if Luis was correct and it's him and 50 associates for dinner... Check without tip is 8600, That is 170$ per dinner with drinks per person. Pricey, but not exorbitant for one time deal that is as important as that. And only 15% tip for a party of 51?
Despite claiming to have ordered expensive wines, there is only one expensive wine on the bill and while expensive, it wouldn't be THAT exepensive for people in their field of work
Always been surprised it only costs $8561. Assuming only the 50 associates and Lewis attended. That’s like $170 a person. Expensive yes, but for what is supposed to be upscale New York dining in 2011? With “some very expensive wines”? Idk maybe I’m off, but I always thought he got off cheap.
I haven't seen much of this show, but I'm with Meghan, I mean Rachel on this one: Try new things, including new foods. Makes life a little more exciting.
It's easy to say that when you're rich and can afford to take risks. A regular person with a small disposable income has to risk money on an expensive meal they might not like or a cheaper meal that they know they will like.
@@arandombard1197 Trying new things does not mean those new things have to be expensive things. Not everyone can afford to dine in an expensive restaurant, but everyone can overcome their fear of the unknown.
@@pjacobsen1000 Everything is expensive to somebody. Spending ANY amount of money for some people is expensive. So trying out new things comes at the opportunity cost of not being able to buy something you know you like.
@@arandombard1197 Ok, I'll counter with this: There are new experiences that don't cost anything, but I also know from personal experience that there can be times when we don't have money to do much of anything, let alone eat at a restaurant. But that is not the point of my comment. In the clip, the man hesitates because the food in front of him 'looks weird'. That has nothing to do with money, it has to do with his own closed mindedness. And that is what Rachel is challenging him on.
Man, I wish this show was still going. Although it had some really low and boring points, I did always love the cast and the storylines. They did wrap it up really nicely though.
so Louis gives mike a list of foods he's allergic to and a couple seasons later calls Harold out for being allergic to his cat because allergies are weak
I mean, those really were not in any way expensive wines😂 I mean, they’re not real wines, of course, but price wise they’re not expensive, even for just by-the-glass if we’re talking a truly high-end place and if I’m imagining a wine along the lines of what Louis would order (Mouton, Margaux, and maybe even stuff like Harlan can sometimes be by-the-glass in these establishments). And if he ordered by-the-bottle, then they’re actually downright cheap!
that tab was high but each item is pretty cheap.... especially for a fancy NYC place by todays standards. and also, checks go top to bottom by what was ordered first to last. we cannot see any "expensive wines" on that tab, so I am led to believe that Louis was just messing with Mike with that comment.
I never understood Harvey's inability to lead. He was an individual, but, never a leader. Most people ignore this fact. Louis could take up any kid and improve his performance, but, Harvey never cared about anyone other than Mike.
@@nickn753Lmao you're a random nobody that has never worked in a professional kitchen and I'm a Michelin-starred pizza chef. This is not a discussion. I am _telling you_ that pizza is bad.
Hes saying that you should always take the chance to stand out. Either if its a dinner, a meeting, a presentation. If you show yourself as a regular "mediocre" person, thats what everyone will think of you for the rest of your time with them.
As non American. What the F means "Gratuity"... is it a forced tip of 20%? If it is, so then you just calc +20% on everything and see if its too pricey for that kind of food?
Mike in the first seasons was simply adorable
In the later seasons, he became an abnoxious robot
@@mmbadgers7813and his hair became hilarious😂😂
@@kw12784 what exactly? i don't get it...
season 6 he became ruthless. xD
He became terminator
I love that this means that Harvey not only cared enough to pay ahead of time without knowing the bill, but he also took the time to find out (read: ask Donna) where Mike was planning to have the dinner so he could go in early and pay.
Exactly
@@prateekbhardwaj2559 And I like Mike's little revenge to Louis at the end "There might have been some gluten in the ravioli" :D
I’m pretty sure he just told Donna to take care of it. She literally has his card and buys her own “bday” gifts. Although it’s possible he made a discreet appearance. You never know with Harvey.
@@LetItFly69 In any case, he's a truly considerate boss, wouldn't you think?
Or this is a fake way to engender gratitude? @landang7906
I was a young college kid when i first saw this. The advice Harvey gave Mike about the dinner always stuck with me
As a lawyer myself, is was of those weird facts that are the truth
It's true in every corporate.
@@manuelpinzon7207 as someone who's been inside a few female lawyers, I can confirm this is the truth
@@manuelpinzon7207 so, as a lawyer, have you ever had one of your seniors just sleep around with a bunch women like everyday of the week but has a policy of not sleeping with married women?
@@tryzmotrippin5481 that's kind a personal question mate.
Even from the beginning, Mike was the little brother Harvey never had. He had his back from the jump
Harvey also had a younger brother.
@@AlezanDeerHis brother was worse than Mike, when Harvey was in law school his biological brother was getting into high 6 figure debts that Harvey had to pay off. He was never a brother to Harvey just a parasite.
Harvery literally had a younger brother
See that’s funny because Harvey actually has a younger brother
Marcus just never existed I guess 😊
One of the reasons Harvey expected unconditional loyalty from Mike.
Pretty sure he didn't think he was buying loyalty by footing the bill.
@@DaveDexterMusic It's just not the bill, it's caring enough to make Mike see that things like the Rookie Dinners matter. Harvey says that he doesn't care about anyone, but drops occasional solid advice. It helped Mike a lot in the long run.
@@achillesdumbeldore true
He does care only what's important for him. @@achillesdumbeldore
@@honor9lite1337 If you can watch this whole series and that's your summary of Harvey, then you not only missed the boat, you didn't even see the ocean.
I love their relationship and chemistry in the early seasons. Rachel when she was an actual character and not just Mikes girlfriend
cmon dont sell Rachel short. She was ANNYOING Mikes cheating girlfriend x)
Rachel was a nothing from start to end. Didn’t like her childishness, her attempts to manipulate, her physical abuse (slapping) or her creepy jealousy of Mike and Harvey’s close relationship.
@@maralonent6257sounds like you’ve got some bad issues yourself if you’re analyzing a fictional character that much lol
@@pineapplecsc7717 Isn't that just Meghan Markle in a nutshell?
@@hawky225 no, I know her in real life. She’s not like that
Lewis doesn't like chicken, and yet later he eats coq for breakfast, lunch and dinner. How the times change
This will forever be the best comment.
I think he does, he just said that to make setting the dinner tougher for mike
😂😂😂😂
Lewis would totally say how coq is not a chicken but a refined fowl
well you can't deny a well cooked gentleman's sausage
Considering it's New York, everyone has expensive tastes AND they were really unwise with the drink orders, $180-odd plus tip per person is... still expensive, but not as much as I was expecting
Currently $250 a head inflation adjusted. I’d say that’s getting to be on the expensive end for NYC
@@OMARWATCHES For a large group event, corporate entertaining, with alcohol, in NYC? $250/head isn't an unusual budget. What's unrealistic is that no company would expect the associate to pick up the bill (well, maybe on the night, but it would ultimately be reimbursed through expenses)
@@matthewjclement That isnt pricy at all. There are a ton of places in NYC that have minimum spend of 20k+ for holiday parties etc.
$180 per person is "still expensive"? Wow, New York might not be that bad. It's what I would pay in my corner of the world (which is Eastern Europe) for fancy dinner with expensive wines.
This episode was filmed 13 years ago you bozos...inflation. These are 2011 prices.
Louis not liking chicken is the most Louis thing ever.
I love how in shows the company doesn’t pay for $10k dinners.
Ten thousand dollars on side? What do they do, cure cancer?!
@hughjassFrom7YearsAgo yes, these sides actually do cure cancer. That's why they were so expensive.
@@hughjassFrom7YearsAgoThey did cure cancer.
Max max i want you to open up max. Why u hold it in 😂
Harvey definitely used company money to pay for the dinner
Harvey is such a big bro, advices the kid on hosting the best dinner with advice on making the best impression and pays for the thing too bcz he cares too much... This season taught me more about life and loyalty and covenant bonds than society, college, workplace...
For those of you who missed the bill was of $10,658 which included $1717 gratuity.
Harvey paid the bill tho, right?
@@tryzmotrippin5481he did
@@tryzmotrippin5481 no it was canceled because there was gluten in the ravioli
this is like an answer in an english comprehension test
1 sec screen flashing.. great
This is proper leadership. Guide w proper experience, ride then relatively hard w work to make sure they can handle it before advancing… and when all is said and done the reward is picking up the $10k check
1:10 this exchange with Harvey is this dude’s Joker moment 💀
Harvey really did teach Mike a lot, I hate to say it but I think if Mike secret came out in season 1 he would've never fallen on the sword to save Harvey. Harvey shaped Mike and showed him what loyalty really is. In my belief that's why he took the deal later on
I cried when I saw this for the first time. Harvey knew his history and knew he would never be able to take care of this tab. That’s why he humbly paid it all. I had a manager like this years back. Best 3 years we had killing the market. People who understand what their people can do are invaluable
If I correctly remember. While Harvey was hiring Mike he mentioned that he should give Mike $25,000 just as a signing bonus. So considering that the dinner was appropriately expensive as most people there were earning alot more than that.
Are you forgetting the tax and fees before you get that signing bonus?
@@N_May1 still the tax is not more than 50% of the total amount
@@suryanshmittal9400 Mike spent the signing bonus, so that his grandma was taken care of. He had the raise it in episode 1.
@@ichbinda1998 Yeah i remember that but not everybody knew about that so for them he had not spent his signing bonus on anyone. Which was another reason people expected him to pay but Harvey who knew about the situation cleared the tab.
@@suryanshmittal9400people wouldn't know about the signing bonus, but it's mentioned/implied later in season 1 just how much associates at pearson hardman actually make, so a 10,000 dollar dinner shouldnt be too far out of their ballpark, especially since harvey was willing to throw in a 25k signing bonus without a second thought
It’s so funny seeing Season 1 and all the associates 😂 The focus being in the bullpen. How things advanced
They left money on the table with the bullpen as it could have easily been a spin-off itself IMO.
What money on the table. What spjnofff
@@Noonenoone440 do you not understand what a hypothetical is? Also take a grammar class
@@SorchaSublime what
I just finished last season and louis looks so fat
This is how you run up a restaurant tab: it's not the food, it's the drinks that make it expensive. And a $1712 tip automatically added on is a service of the house, so you don't have to bother with the math.
Obligatory tips are the worst. Pay your workers a fking salary and let me decide on my own what or if I want to tip
@@fruhlingsrolle7303 isnt it technichally lets call it a suggestion not something that you actually owe
@@fruhlingsrolle7303 wouldnt paying the workers more just mean that the bill is more expensive anyway?
@@Justking Yes, but then at least they are honest with their prices, yknow?
@@fruhlingsrolle7303also, sales tax, why don’t they just add that to the price tag? US is hella weird…
16 x bottles of house red coming to $105 seems reasonable
Even if this is a 'per glass' price, no upscale restaurant is serving glasses of wine at $6.50, let alone bottles.
It's definitely glasses. And the show is from 2011, 6.50 for a 6 oz glass is reasonable
not at a place like this lol hows the doublewide with a vizio
harvey and mike are the best brothers ever
Left a 19.14% tip. Decent.
5.07 You gotta appreciate the hardwork that goes into making these series. Getting it all perfect....The directors show that Rachel is holding wine glass from the stem while Ross grabs the bowl and sips not knowing the correct way to hold that glass, being the rookie in food culture that he is.
7:37 my favorite part Louis expressions are great 😂🎉
My company has these after first years get their bonuses. It’s a way to pay your seniors back for their hard work and mentorship, and shows that you’re there for the long run. Mine is in March and I’m actually kind of excited
'Gluten in the ravioli' - my favorite comment
That's what you get when you take a huge liberty by 'ordering really expensive wines'.
what an absolute BS move expecting a rookie employee to give up about 10% of their annual salary to host a bourgeoise dinner for their colleagues. pro sports teams do this, but it's for a much smaller amount/percentage. and not with the purpose to see how stuck up everyone can be.
10%? Do all americans make 100k a year minimum? Always blows my mind, considering many families in South and Eastern Europe have savings less than what this dinner cost.
@@GetElectricGRwell if you live in new york and work in a top level law firm, 100k a year is pretty much a given
100k a year in Manhattan at a top law firm will get you some very low performers lol
@@MC-tm2uy not "low performers", he's a rookie associate. i'm guessing his salary, but it should be in that ballpark.
In a real life scenario this would likely just be expensed on a company card or they would pay you back within a day lol
Poor Allen... err Aaron.
Harold?
“I want to live on what I make” if only that were her real life story 😂😂😂
Harvey and Mike is my best bromance of all time🔥
Harvey is literally the best character in every way possible and this last scene shows that
the whole "rookie" having to pay for things always seemed bizarre to me.... I guess in some fields it's tradition but doesn't make it right. when I have med students and new doctors come through the office I always make sure that they are being taken care of... I couldn't imagine asking them to take me out to dinner
IDK what this show is or how I got here, but I paused on the restaurant receipt and it's hilarious. 5 martinis for nearly $180, OK, those are expensive restaurant prices. But then the 3 daiquiris (which would be harder for the bartender to make) come in at ~$8 a pop??? Is this an Applebees?? Finally, it's cut off but looks like 32 premium scotches were ordered for less than $1 a glass? I know it's just a silly prop for a half-second shot but made me laugh.
This was the episode you could see the chemistry between the two and you KNEW eventually they were going to be together.
If there is one thing Harvey and Mike had in common, it was having each others back
Harvey Spectre trained the best of us, even though through a screen; He was our mentor.
Heard that everyone, Rachel wants to live on what she makes and make it all on her own. 😅
"Privacy, privacy, privacy!"
Mike: I think that squid is still rolling around in my mouth. That sums up my take on seafood.
I love it when Mike gets the better of Luis litt
Mike and Harvey are like brothers
It shows especially when at the end the tab was almost 11k and Harvey secretly paid it already and didn't advertise it taking the credit away from Mike.
He actually wanted to see him succeed 😊❤
@@shanecoleman7114 very true
Butch and Sundance
10,600 for so many associates isn’t that much. I’ve easily spent a few hundred dollars ordering the cheapest items in the affordable restaurants in downtown Los Ángeles. I’d expect 20k+
This episode aired in 2011. Everything was cheaper at that time
@@theonlyrealrobin4602 I ate at those restaurants in 2013. Lol but I get you. No way I can afford them nowD or would I try. I only went there for a girl I used to know 🤣😂
Corp events can often negotiate better rates and prices as well.
@@SoullessPyre thank you. Now That makes sense
yuh
“There might have been some gluten in the ravioli.”
Walks off before Luis can respond.
Exactly what Harvey would do.
The bill is actually quite reasonable for such a large gathering in a fine restaurant
I don’t get it. Why would a firm make a rookie pay for this dinner? That’s insane. I assume the rookie has to plan it out but the firm will pay for it.
very little about this show is realistic :). Workplaces don't actually operate like this.
this show is not realistic
Rachel Zane S1 is undefeated
Yess! I was waiting for this for so long!
As a software test automation engineer, when I went to 10.30 AM on my last job of 2 years. As a beginner. No one questioned me managers etc. I realized why when I left the job. I was valuable. They didnt want me to leave.
I watched this for the first time when I was a 2nd year law student, and didn’t get what the fuss was about.
As a practicing lawyer watching this scene again, I only now understand that what Harvey said about caring things that “don’t matter”, is absolutely true.
If I had watched this as a 2nd year law student, I would have known to drop out, instead of continuing on, graduating, getting a litigation job, and being miserable for the next 13 years.
DO NOT. GO. TO LAWSCHOOL.
DO NOT. BECOME A LAWYER.
@@asmodiusjones9563 May I ask why?
Rewatching this as a law student and it's cool to catch references you didn't the first time, like that he can't go to a certain restaurant because it's a "Wachtell Lipton" client, with Wachtell being the real life firm that Pearson Hardman is based on!
@@fabsi154 it’s terrible. The litigation process is unfair and incredibly inconsistent. The actual facts of the case aren’t just HARD to present, both opposing counsel and the legal process are dedicated to preventing the actual facts from being heard. Also, litigators, especial insurance defense counsel, are the most insufferable people on the planet and you will have to work very closely with them for months on end.
The business model is also difficult. If you work plaintiff side, you don’t get paid unless you win, and you never know if you’ll win. So each case is 12-24 months of absolutely infuriating work that you might not get paid for. You can easily go 9 or 12 months without getting paid at all. Or, if you’re on the defense side, you have to meet your billing hours quota bringing pointless motions and doing everything in your power to prevent the facts from getting to the jury.
I just took a CLE on lawyer mental health. Lawyers have the highest level of suicide, alcoholism, and depression of any professional career. They said that unless 90% of your cases have two of the three following attributes, your practice will be unsustainable: (1) you work with people you do not have personality conflicts with (including opposing counsel and your clients); (2) you are working in an area of law that interests you; (3) the case is either fully paid or intentional pro bono. I can safely say that NONE of my cases had 2 out of those 3. I barely had any cases with 1.
I cannot express how much I hated doing that. And I did it for 13 years!
@@fabsi154 it’s terrible. The litigation process is unfair and incredibly inconsistent. The actual facts of the case aren’t just hard to present, both opposing counsel and the legal process are dedicated to preventing the actual facts from being heard. Also, litigators, especial insurance defense counsel, are the most insufferable people on the planet and you will have to work very closely with them for months on end.
The business model is also difficult. If you work plaintiff side, you don’t get paid unless you win, and you never know if you’ll win. So each case is 12-24 months of absolutely infuriating work that you might not get paid for. You can easily go 9 or 12 months without getting paid at all. Or, if you’re on the defense side, you have to meet your billing hours quota bringing pointless motions and doing everything in your power to prevent the facts from getting to the jury.
I just took a CLE on lawyer mental health. Lawyers have the highest level of suicide, alcoholism, and depression of any professional career. They said that unless 90% of your cases have two of the three following attributes, your practice will be unsustainable: (1) you work with people you do not have personality conflicts with (including opposing counsel and your clients); (2) you are working in an area of law that interests you; (3) the case is either fully paid or intentional pro bono. I can safely say that none of my cases had 2 out of those 3. I barely had any cases with 1.
I cannot express how much I hated doing that. And I did it for 10 years!
Loyal isnt a strong enough word for what i would have been to Harvey
Look how the former princess walks 😂
A known 304
This was when SUITS was fun and exciting.
Mike - There might have been some gluton in the ravioli”
Louis - 😧
That's how you know he's not faking it. The anticipation threw off his whole night. Can't bring a lady friend back because of the possible gastrointestinal issues becoming a matter of gossip.
Back when $10k would buy a fancy dinner in NYC for 100 plus
“I hope that’s okay”😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Expensive wine”
Dinner for 50 associates = 10k - gratuity, that’s like 175$ each. I spent that on my birthday this year. I was expecting a 50-100k dinner.
Okay fine, I’ll binge watch suits again
2:11
Practical Example and reality of corporate world
FINEEEE i'll watch Suits again
Amazing video! I couldn't stop watching it.
Harvey is so great
Favourite show of all time.
How you do anything is how you do everything.
Well Alan.
It's Aaron.
Well I think that says it all, don't you?
Gentlemen, badassery from Mr. Spectre
was Mike able to pay the bill at all before Harvey stepped in? Not sure of his financial situation at that point...
He did get a 25K signing bonus from Harvey in the first episode so he should have been able to pay it. Clearly didn't want to though.
And to be fair, it’s common courtesy and sense to try NOT to run up the bill too much. There was no need for Louis to order the expensive wines.
He’s an idiot. Period
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I mean no one would want to. Just think about it.
Well Allan...
It's Erin.
I think that says it all, don't you?!
So glad this show ended on a high with season 3
Justice for Aron
I won't lie I will say that Louis still told him about the Rookie Dinner instead of simply letting Mike flounder
10k is a lot of money, but if Luis was correct and it's him and 50 associates for dinner... Check without tip is 8600, That is 170$ per dinner with drinks per person. Pricey, but not exorbitant for one time deal that is as important as that. And only 15% tip for a party of 51?
Is the bartender at the end Trent the White Dino thunder Power Ranger?
Yessir
Having a Harvey… means appreciating finding your Mike later on in life.
I am here for rachel
Despite claiming to have ordered expensive wines, there is only one expensive wine on the bill and while expensive, it wouldn't be THAT exepensive for people in their field of work
Always been surprised it only costs $8561. Assuming only the 50 associates and Lewis attended. That’s like $170 a person. Expensive yes, but for what is supposed to be upscale New York dining in 2011? With “some very expensive wines”? Idk maybe I’m off, but I always thought he got off cheap.
Thats what you pay today at McDonalds for your family 😅
I haven't seen much of this show, but I'm with Meghan, I mean Rachel on this one: Try new things, including new foods. Makes life a little more exciting.
It's easy to say that when you're rich and can afford to take risks. A regular person with a small disposable income has to risk money on an expensive meal they might not like or a cheaper meal that they know they will like.
@@arandombard1197 Trying new things does not mean those new things have to be expensive things. Not everyone can afford to dine in an expensive restaurant, but everyone can overcome their fear of the unknown.
@@pjacobsen1000 Everything is expensive to somebody. Spending ANY amount of money for some people is expensive. So trying out new things comes at the opportunity cost of not being able to buy something you know you like.
@@arandombard1197 Ok, I'll counter with this: There are new experiences that don't cost anything, but I also know from personal experience that there can be times when we don't have money to do much of anything, let alone eat at a restaurant.
But that is not the point of my comment. In the clip, the man hesitates because the food in front of him 'looks weird'. That has nothing to do with money, it has to do with his own closed mindedness. And that is what Rachel is challenging him on.
@@pjacobsen1000 Everything costs something, even if it's just time.
Man, I wish this show was still going. Although it had some really low and boring points, I did always love the cast and the storylines. They did wrap it up really nicely though.
Solid episode
$1,712 gratuity!? Is it normal though?
the bill before tax is 8.5k, so the gratuity here is about 20% which isn't uncommon.
19.26% You could argue that it's on the low side, but it's not terrible.
Only in the place they use childrens schools as a gun range
I’m surprised it was a forced 20% - 25%. They usually force gratuity when the party is larger than some amount
@@OMARWATCHESit was like 50 people??
In 2011, a formal bespoke dinner for 50 New York lawyers with 'very expensive wines' came in at under two hundred dollars a head before tip.
im not from us, but considering a coffee is like 15$ there, 10k seems cheap for 50 people
Nice to see the scene at 2:55 come around full circle at the end of the show
I'm guessing the rookie dinner only happens when your firm pays you quite well?
No difference between rookie athletes & rookie lawyers.
They pay. Period.
Considering they only hire from Harvard, Id say money isnt an issue for most of them.
so Louis gives mike a list of foods he's allergic to and a couple seasons later calls Harold out for being allergic to his cat because allergies are weak
shrimp and goat cheese... pizza ?
don't forget the red pepper, its the only thing that brings the goat cheese and shrimp together
I think I've been to dinners that have cost about the same, but had far fewer attendees. 10k is laughably cheap, even for the time.
That restaurant needs to change its cash register paper
I mean, those really were not in any way expensive wines😂 I mean, they’re not real wines, of course, but price wise they’re not expensive, even for just by-the-glass if we’re talking a truly high-end place and if I’m imagining a wine along the lines of what Louis would order (Mouton, Margaux, and maybe even stuff like Harlan can sometimes be by-the-glass in these establishments). And if he ordered by-the-bottle, then they’re actually downright cheap!
Who apologizes to someone for another person paying the check ??
Maybe for giving him the bill when it’s already been paid
that tab was high but each item is pretty cheap.... especially for a fancy NYC place by todays standards. and also, checks go top to bottom by what was ordered first to last. we cannot see any "expensive wines" on that tab, so I am led to believe that Louis was just messing with Mike with that comment.
I never understood Harvey's inability to lead. He was an individual, but, never a leader. Most people ignore this fact. Louis could take up any kid and improve his performance, but, Harvey never cared about anyone other than Mike.
Always hilarious when non-foodies try and write foodie characters
That pizza sounds _HIDEOUS_
Nope it sounds great. As long as they use soft goat cheese and not too much of it, that should be a banging pizza.
@@nickn753Lmao you're a random nobody that has never worked in a professional kitchen and I'm a Michelin-starred pizza chef.
This is not a discussion.
I am _telling you_ that pizza is bad.
This show reminds me of my condescending FBi and CIA "friends". I still love Y'all ;-) Now stay out of my phone and PC
miss season 1 suits
Mike was so cute in the first seasons
Louis character is way different in these scens compared to the rest of the show. They demolished it.
If it were a real restaurant bill, they would’ve added 25% minimum there’s no way a guy like Harvey would that light on a bill like that
Can any one explain what harveys says about dinnner
Hes saying that you should always take the chance to stand out. Either if its a dinner, a meeting, a presentation. If you show yourself as a regular "mediocre" person, thats what everyone will think of you for the rest of your time with them.
That's a nice gratuity for a nights work.
I clicked on this video to watch Meghan Markel walk! She is glorious!
As non American. What the F means "Gratuity"... is it a forced tip of 20%? If it is, so then you just calc +20% on everything and see if its too pricey for that kind of food?
8 seasons later we KNOW it never mattered at all