Tarantulas (TransMetal): He uses the dots on his shoulder pauldrons both for bullets AND missiles launchers multiple times through out Season 2 and Season 3.
Rampage has got to be the weirdest character in Beast Wars. His role as the Predicons’ uncontrollable berserker was fun and his showcase episode was memorable. Then Transmutate implies there’s something more to him only for the show to never touch on that again. And finally, the way his final scene is framed is seems like he let himself die. Rampage had all of the pieces they needed to make him an interesting character and they just never fully assembled them for some reason.
I’m split on the forms. The gleaming purple metal of original Transmetal Megatron offset by the bronze shell of the remainder of his T-Rex beast form really pops, but his Transmetal 2 dragon form was also something quite impressive to behold.
Trans-mutate: NOT a Predacon - not only was it (she) a Maximal protoform but it (she) didn't like fighting and violence and just kind of want to zen out with everybody and everything. Just had a toddler-like temper when things didn't go its (her) way. Side note: the reason Trans-mutate is referred to as a "she" is because she was voiced by Susan Blu - the original voice actress would did the OG Arcee.
I am aware, Transmuate was voiced by Susan Blu, but women play male characters in animation all the time. In the show it's never stated what Transmutate was. And I put Transmuate on the Predicons, right after Rampage, because he was the character it was closest to, and the Predacons were the faction they were most likely to join. The Maximals just wanted to put them offline because it would have been more convenient to them, but if Transmutate killed Maximals the Predacons made it clear they'd be fully willing to keep them on as a member.
Megatron (TransMetal): His tail cannon is not his only weapon. He can also use the serrated claw at the end of it as a seperate melee weapon - although he tends to use it out of combat more than in it. And his t-rex arms also make for shoulders guns which he uses at least twice maybe thrice.
Couple thoughts. Tarantulas: fired from his shoulders more than once, pay attention. Quickstrike: he's a better cowboy than Wildwheel. Transmutate: wasn't actually a Predacon, never assumed the activation code unlike Silverbolt. Dinobot II: he pummeled Depth Charge pretty effortlessly. TM2 Megs: Inferno didn't kill Tarantulas, just scorched him and he survived Megatron's fire breath because TM durability.
I mean I tried rewatching probably close to 15 episodes to make this video, but I never saw him do this. Transmutate, spent most of it's time with Rampage, and they had to go somewhere. I watched every episode with Dinobot 2, at no point did he pummel Depthcharge. No. Inferno is in fact stated to have killed Tarantulas. He only came back because he downloaded him self into Blackarchnia's mind and then she was able to restore his body.
Rampage: Actually had more weaponry as well. He actually had TWO cannons, a medium-sized one he could wield with one hand and a large one that he had to use both hands to operate. He also had a rifle that he used once in the thrid season (and also came with the original toy).
When I first saw Rampage in the show, I thought for sure he would turn good, magically die, or have a significant decrease in power. Because the Maximals already had way too many problems, and there's no way such a horrifying thing could maintain that terrifying and still have a thirst for blood in order for the show to continue. But somehow he stays as much of a threat while being controlled by Megatron in a way that makes sense, and still the Maximals still win. The fact that the writers and animators could pull that off was very impressive.
Another headcanon I have is that waspinator is actually cursed. Cursed to be the target of all the universes bad luck, while never being able to put out of his misery
Do ya'll ever wonder if a unified Cybertron could defeat Unicron? The Dinobots kicked big holes into his butt, but he didn't really react to anything except a nuclear bomb going off in his pancreas. I guess the Quinteson ship hitting him in the eye made him react, but eyeballs are sensitive. Could the Cybertronians, with whatever they have other than the Matrix, have won the fight against Unicron?
I mean a disunified Cybertron did. I think he was only so successful because he surprised them, though how they didn't notice him chowing on their moons is anyones guess.
A dicent end to a series. And besides that, a bit more accurate examinetion of characters from last video. All tho I think you forgot one thing. Like Rattrap small shield, this was used more or less once, but still counts imo. The thing I'm talking about are Meg's shoulder guns made of his dino hands. I don't remember when they showed up, but I remember them non the less.
Beats wars was awesome. It was the first transformers show that actually made me feel something since the 86 movie. I’m a 2000s kid, but I stumbled across it on Netflix one day and couldn’t turn it off.
Ravage Weaponry 5 maybe 6: big guns, invisiblity, and I think he might have laser eyes Skill 7: one of the best shots, able to shoot all the weapons out of the maximals hands without even trying; not to mention his expirence in the war; flying his ship also has to count for something to Strength 3: not really show that well, but I’m assuming he’s pretty weak Tactics 8: he’s a spy, can set up a hostage negotiation, knows the value of having a man on the inside, and can easily sneak in and out of somewhere Do you think these stats are accurate
I did rewatch about 15 episodes of the show to make this video, and he never used those in any of those, so I did forget, but they also were just about never used.
I think the transmetals are fireproof, sicne tarantulas is also thrown into lava and lived and so did optimal Optimus, this could explain why inferno seamed to get less threatening every season
Dinobot (Clone): Pretty spot on with that one - however it's kind weird how you fixated on the Blackarachnia fight when he also has a pretty significant fight with the TransMetal 2 version of Cheetor as well.
I rewatched about 15 episodes of the show to to make this list, including every episode after he was introduced, and the reason I focused on the Blackarachnia fight, is because she is the far FAR better barometer for his abilities. TM2 Cheetor is literally worse than Blackarachnia in all ways except for strength. So that would also make him worse than Dinobot 2 in all ways. How am I supposed to figure out his stats from seeing him beat on someone who's not his equal in any way.
Do they have different strength levels in each mode. Blackarnia can swing rampage around in beast mode, but can’t pry herself out of Optimus’s hand in robot mode, and whenever we see waspinator carry something it’s in beast mode, same with most characters towing something, and rattrap can carry Dinobot in his transmetal form
I mean no matter what Optimus would be stronger, and it could be they aren't necessarily stronger, but in bug mode with 6 legs she might have more torque.
Tarantulas didn't get his "crossbow" back to shot a web, he used a blue pistol. He used the machine guns in his pauldrons twice, once against Silverbolt and once against the Vok, and he's also shown the be able to shoot missiles from them and in "Cutting Edge," he shoots missiles from his spider legs while in vehicle-mode. He also has the cybervenom arrowgun he uses on Optimal Optimus and the laser rifle he uses in "Other Visits." And I doubt he lost his web-slinging ability because he got on top of the Vok's battle station somehow. He also didn't loose his spider-fangs, they're on the backs of what become his robot feet and clearly visible in beast-mode. What do you think he was going to feed on that gazelle with? I agree on Quickstrike mostly, but I think him quick-drawing Depthcharge and putting him in stasis-lock with one shot deserves some recognition. Finally rampage; his missile-launcher didn't destroy the whole mountain, just the cap, which is still impressive and raw energon--which is shown many times to be volatile and dangerous--is what's needed to kill him. Megatron's scalpel was likely made of refined energon and he would have used surgical precision when splitting Rampage's spark, which may have been what made it vulnerable to that raw energon in the first place.
My brother was around to see Beast Wars as it was airing, but not consistently. Whenever he managed to catch an episode, it was part of a two-parter, which is always awkward.
Rampages demise is well set up, first of all ramages speak based on starscream’s Whcih was ejected with raw energon, two as you said energon allowed megatron to cut into his spark in the first place, as for why that didn’t kill him, he used a paper thin peice with no specified power level, deapth charge got probably the last of the super unstable energon that can kill transformers in seconds, and used a shard larger than the spark.
I think it's a comprehensible leap to say it works like that, but it was never established previously, and if it did work, why didn't they do that on Cybertron, rather than plan on dumping him in a black hole?
First tm megatron did use his shoulder moundted rex fingers as guns, probably once i dont remember, but he did, so... No, his tail gun is NOT his only weapon, and that itself at least had more than one firing mode so i would give him that at least
In my defense I re-watched like 15 episodes of the show to refresh my self on these abilities, and they were never used in any of those. What would be the point of the other Firing modes though? Kill, Kill Slightly more hard?
@@PerspectiveEnd i mean, megatorn has used some fast firing from the tail and some charged ones, and to be completely honest might just be the animation speed and nothing more, and in the end, it surely hasnt made that much of a difference; i think the transmetal upgrade was more for the body to resist energon and hasbro to sell toys more than "upgrading" them to be more combat effective, at least it DID change how they moved and traveled through the battlefield for hat is worth
Actually rampage and debcharge survived beast wars. Debcharge survived because of rampage spark got into his body and now both shear the body, so yeah. And it in collectors club comics , so it's official.
Honestly, even if Megatron is better at tactics than Optimus, Primal won the BW, cause Megatron had every single psychopath of the show on his side, plus 90% of all his troops wanted to kill him
Can’t wait for the roasts, your gonna kick quick strikes keister, I’ll star, he’s the only one I can think of that has more useful hands in beast mode, and he’s a scorpion, snake hybrid
Tarantulas really is the guy who has the best look armour set equipped yet does the bad in the game, the transart figure recently released is very nice nailed the look. Another favourite predacon of mine rampage was very pleasing in the show like yea he’s a powerhouse but not the stereotypical dumb one he’s got brains and uses it well, he does need a new figure 3P or hasbro either way big crab needs love
Man, tarantulas got done dirty. Kindda good a showcase of his intelligence that he probably modified his body to get his old gear back. T1 megatron Is still the best transmetal design.
I personally think that the thing that killed Rampage was not the enegon crystal, but actually it's contact with his spark created some sort of short circuit that made the other crystals in the area explode and that's what killed him, basically a nuke-sized explosion, and thats why the maximals couldn't kill him back on Cybertron, such a big explosion would just draw attention and investigations about that caused it, and it would lead to the discovery of protoform X Maybe the reason why such explosion didn't happen when Megatron cut his spark with the knife is because most energon crystal had already exploded on land
I think Transmetal's 2 Megatron deserves more skill. As you said he beated Optimal Optimus the first time they fought. The second time he clearly got the upper hand. He got G1 Megatron's fighting skills when getting his spark. The only one who could beat him was Tiger hawk with his Super Powers. That is a lot to say. In regards of his strength, he threw Optimal away like he was nothing with just his tail.
That is one way to interpret it yes. On other way to interpret it is he fights badly because he knows he can't lose. Any victory against him is only a setback since you can't die so he doesn't have a desire to win quickly or effectively.
Question of the comments did you ever play the beast wars transmedal PS2 I think it was on PS2 anyway apparently in that game they had designs for transmedals fall, rhinox and waspinator
Quickstrike does some skills and tatics in tangled web, he blocks paths by causing cave ins, and can dodge things easily but it was still early so maybe they wanted to make him look decently cool
I think Transmetal 2 Megatrons Ice + Fire to be broken af. Ik it was hardly used but given time the amount of uses that could have like making ice constructs or using mist and boiling water mid combat
Watching these they should of gave the Transmetals more to really show they were upgraded. More weapons or just higher strength would of helped. I do like that Transmetal 2 does seem to be an actual upgrade tho
Surprised you didn´t deduct points from Quickstrike from the fact that he doesn´t have actual hands. He has the cobra head and the scorpion spindly long legs for hands. Opening a doorknob is for him just slightly easier than from the Vehicons from Beast Machines.
But then I'd have to think really hard about Beast Machines, and I don't wanna. As for the UT, I'd need to rewatch that whole show, since it's been about 20 years since the last time.
you have no shortage of shows (or comics for that matter) to pick from evn if you don't wanna do either of the ones i suggested, assuming of course you want to do more of these to begin with@@PerspectiveEnd
I am on holidays atm and I was able to find a POTP Dreadwind and Darkwing (Darkwing was incomplete missing the prime armor and Dreadwing had loose wings) as well as a Titans Return Krok missing his front claws for only $50 AUD (About 31.50 USD). Now because of the POTP figures, I really want to get a full POTP combiner. Just need an Inferno, Jazz and Wreck Gar to go with Darkwing and Dreadwind. I also plan to buy a bunch of prime masters because the combiner needs their bling.
The issue with dreadwind having loose wings seems quite common, i've got it and his right arm just dissapeared and the wings are to floppy for the alt mode to look good, makes a good arm though, i wish you luck in making the combiner.
A combiner idea I have for the POTP jets is using starscream as a torso, dreadwind/dark wing as legs, and making custom deluxe skywarp/Thundercracker as arms to have a seeker combiner
Depth Charge, he has FAAAR better long range weapons, and was strong enough to Fight Rampage. Who Dinobot defeated once with the element of surprise, but could not take one on one.
And it's had to judge them because the enemies are all mooks. And you never really get a sense for anyone's abilities outside of single aspects. Like Ratrap ONLY has tactics any more, and Cheetor somehow only gets skill, where Primal only really has weaponry.
@PerspectiveEnd idk if you would consider it Canon, but there was a Transmetals fighting game that had Rhinox and Waspinator in their transmetal bodies, and we see what they would've fought like. There is potential scaling there.
Well, we don't know if Rampage is actually dead: non-canon as it may be, in BWU Rampage gets blown to atoms only to be shown to have completely regenerated from it... even if it took an undisclosed amount of weeks so... Rampage COULD be still alive... he's just stuck in regeneration stasis.
Quickstrike: NOT a TransMetal - although he does have a weird peudo-like TransMetal-esque skin - presumably to make his look more different from Scorponok.
I'd have to think about Beast Machines though, and I don't wanna. Also I wanted to do that, but I've got SO much to cover this month I don't know what I'll do.
Yeah, I too wish we could have seen him continue on. It's always sad to see a character no longer around. No more interactions with them and other characters.
@@PerspectiveEnd Terrorsaur was one of my favs from season 1, really wished he got the chance to take Waspinator's place in the S2 predacon roster like he was always meant to do. Would've spared Waspinator from torment and give the Predacons a very competent flier.
Tfp starscream Weaponry: 7 he has wrist rockets and wrist blasters, both do decent damage Skill: 6 he seams ok at that but i can’t think of a great example Strength: 5 he is freaking scrawny but he can punch a whole through an autobots hide with minimal effort Tactics: either 8 or 9, he can fly, is a great shot, can follow and give orders well, sets up abuses, and knows the value of of a tactical retreat
you know the saying "a hero is only as good as their villain" well for depth charge and rampage, I think that's the exception as rampage is a far better character then depth charge like yeah rampage is obviously a monster but he's an entertaining monster like the joker, they do some truly horrible things but they're at least fun villains making them more of a love to hate which to me is the best kind of villain
@@PerspectiveEnd true episodes like transmutate do a lot to flesh him out it's just when he is more of a simple, crazed monster, he's very entertaining as the crazed monster
@@PerspectiveEnd also minor correction but tarantulus did use the mini gun shoulder guards in episode 48 so it wasn't a one off thing, rattrap also used his demo charges there just wanted to mention that
since you're still in that month, I kinda want to dare you to do a Beast Machines Powerscale then again it's Beast Machines, half of the cast is nerfed to make the stakes look more dire.
I dont really like the transmetal designs, especially primals, both of cheetor's, blackarachnia, and megatrons first, it took the entirety of the second season for me to finally warm up to it, but by then, they change it, but atleast optimus and megatrons 2nd are an upgrade, also will you do beast wars roasts part 2 this month, maybe as the last video of the month?
How would rampage work in shattered glass, not sure the immortal expirment works for a good guy, and what about deapth charge how would he work And why am I not asking you this on the actual shattered glass beast wars characters you reviewed
It could be very funny to have him be the exact opposite. Where he's not immortal, but instead super brittle. Depthcharge might want him dead for convincing his friends to defect.
Would an amphibious tank be a good non beast alt mode for ramage to have. And is it properly shown he’s industructible, what is the best example of his power in your opinion
That's an interesting question. I think Dinobot might be grossed out by the idea of killing Transmutate for not being like them. And I think Depthcharge probably wouldn't give a crap.
Megatron (Double TransMetal): Not a TransMetal 2 - if you actually watch the espisode you'll notice Megatron doesn't get his dragon body from the TransMetal 2 Driver - which is a requirement to becoming a TransMetal 2. Instead he gets it the same way that Optimus Primal gets his Optimal Optimus form - by becoming half Autobot (or in Megatron's case, half Decepticon) via hosting the spark of his namesake. There's no official term for this but fans have nicknamed it "Double TransMetal". The term "TransMetal 2" Megatron comes from the error on his box for his original toy back in the day having the TransMetal 2 logo on it.
While yes it's true he does not get his Body from the TM2 driver, it is DISTINCTLY a TM2 body. You can tell because it's Asymetrical, which is a defining point of Transmetal 2. And you can say that it's an error on his box, but he shares every distinguishing feature of a Transmetal 2.
In Best Wars it's kind of a toss up. Some melee weapons are about as powerful as the ranged stuff, but as a general rule, yeah Ranged weapons tend to be stronger.
Sad that beast wars stuff dosent do as well. Maybe because it’s obscure? Try titling these videos with like “TRANSFORMERS beast wars Predacon power levels” to have casuals more likely to click
@@PerspectiveEnd I didn’t think beast wars was obscure until ROTB came out and there were multiple r/transformers posts asking why Optimus prime was a monkey and why there were two
Tarantulas (TransMetal): He uses the dots on his shoulder pauldrons both for bullets AND missiles launchers multiple times through out Season 2 and Season 3.
That one was a glaring omission
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Rampage has got to be the weirdest character in Beast Wars. His role as the Predicons’ uncontrollable berserker was fun and his showcase episode was memorable. Then Transmutate implies there’s something more to him only for the show to never touch on that again. And finally, the way his final scene is framed is seems like he let himself die. Rampage had all of the pieces they needed to make him an interesting character and they just never fully assembled them for some reason.
I like to think the reason he attacked Silverbolt in "Crossing the Ribicon" was because he saw an opportunity to get revenge for Transmutate.
Admittedly, my favorite Beast wars megatron design is the First transmetal design
Same.
It really does suit him. The purple and bronze match his self-styled commander bravado beautifully. I wished Legacy didn't skip it.
@@papersamurai00 hopefully it doesn’t
I’m split on the forms.
The gleaming purple metal of original Transmetal Megatron offset by the bronze shell of the remainder of his T-Rex beast form really pops, but his Transmetal 2 dragon form was also something quite impressive to behold.
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Who said they skipped it?
It will eventually be released, even if it comes from a different line after Legacy.
Trans-mutate: NOT a Predacon - not only was it (she) a Maximal protoform but it (she) didn't like fighting and violence and just kind of want to zen out with everybody and everything. Just had a toddler-like temper when things didn't go its (her) way. Side note: the reason Trans-mutate is referred to as a "she" is because she was voiced by Susan Blu - the original voice actress would did the OG Arcee.
I am aware, Transmuate was voiced by Susan Blu, but women play male characters in animation all the time. In the show it's never stated what Transmutate was.
And I put Transmuate on the Predicons, right after Rampage, because he was the character it was closest to, and the Predacons were the faction they were most likely to join.
The Maximals just wanted to put them offline because it would have been more convenient to them, but if Transmutate killed Maximals the Predacons made it clear they'd be fully willing to keep them on as a member.
Megatron (TransMetal): His tail cannon is not his only weapon. He can also use the serrated claw at the end of it as a seperate melee weapon - although he tends to use it out of combat more than in it. And his t-rex arms also make for shoulders guns which he uses at least twice maybe thrice.
Coming of the fuzors part 1.
Couple thoughts.
Tarantulas: fired from his shoulders more than once, pay attention.
Quickstrike: he's a better cowboy than Wildwheel.
Transmutate: wasn't actually a Predacon, never assumed the activation code unlike Silverbolt.
Dinobot II: he pummeled Depth Charge pretty effortlessly.
TM2 Megs: Inferno didn't kill Tarantulas, just scorched him and he survived Megatron's fire breath because TM durability.
I mean I tried rewatching probably close to 15 episodes to make this video, but I never saw him do this.
Transmutate, spent most of it's time with Rampage, and they had to go somewhere.
I watched every episode with Dinobot 2, at no point did he pummel Depthcharge.
No. Inferno is in fact stated to have killed Tarantulas. He only came back because he downloaded him self into Blackarchnia's mind and then she was able to restore his body.
@@PerspectiveEndDinobot II literally pounces on and owns Depth Charge in his very first appearance.
All of these are fair, but I don’t agree with your point on Quickstrike.
Rampage: Actually had more weaponry as well. He actually had TWO cannons, a medium-sized one he could wield with one hand and a large one that he had to use both hands to operate. He also had a rifle that he used once in the thrid season (and also came with the original toy).
Well of course Quickstrike is less threatening It's like what Megatron said "when expecting booby traps or we send the boob in first"
That's really the point where the show says "Yeah we know this guy is easily the worst Predacon unit" I love that Waspinator gets more Respect.
OH GOD I JUST NOTICED BY THE TITTLE WHAT THIS WAS i nearly completely missed this video 😅
Huh. Maybe I should change that to get more views then.
Blackarachnia: No longer a Predacon - although you did address that.
Indeed I did.
When I first saw Rampage in the show, I thought for sure he would turn good, magically die, or have a significant decrease in power. Because the Maximals already had way too many problems, and there's no way such a horrifying thing could maintain that terrifying and still have a thirst for blood in order for the show to continue. But somehow he stays as much of a threat while being controlled by Megatron in a way that makes sense, and still the Maximals still win.
The fact that the writers and animators could pull that off was very impressive.
Another headcanon I have is that waspinator is actually cursed. Cursed to be the target of all the universes bad luck, while never being able to put out of his misery
I think that's a lot of peoples headcannons.
My girl Blackarachnia flexing on everyone
She always is.
Do ya'll ever wonder if a unified Cybertron could defeat Unicron? The Dinobots kicked big holes into his butt, but he didn't really react to anything except a nuclear bomb going off in his pancreas. I guess the Quinteson ship hitting him in the eye made him react, but eyeballs are sensitive. Could the Cybertronians, with whatever they have other than the Matrix, have won the fight against Unicron?
I mean a disunified Cybertron did. I think he was only so successful because he surprised them, though how they didn't notice him chowing on their moons is anyones guess.
Megatrons T. rex arms are now guns to, so he literally has finger guns
Bang bang.
A dicent end to a series. And besides that, a bit more accurate examinetion of characters from last video.
All tho I think you forgot one thing. Like Rattrap small shield, this was used more or less once, but still counts imo.
The thing I'm talking about are Meg's shoulder guns made of his dino hands. I don't remember when they showed up, but I remember them non the less.
I will admit, quickstrike does have my favorite fuzor design. Despite how much of a loser he is.
It is very cool, and very shiny.
Beast Wars was awesome
11/10 for Meg’s tactics is a little much, I’d say 9/10 maybe 10/10 because the dude went on a safari hunt for Primal
Dudes allowed to have fun.
Beats wars was awesome. It was the first transformers show that actually made me feel something since the 86 movie. I’m a 2000s kid, but I stumbled across it on Netflix one day and couldn’t turn it off.
I know I am way too young to even now what beast wars is but now that I’ve found it I have really enjoyed it
I'm so happy to hear that. I always love sharing Beast Wars with people.
Tarantulas also used his leg guns in cutting edge plus he did then in beast mode
Yeah what's funny is after I finished this I went back to finish an episode I was watching to refresh my self, and right then and there he used them.
oooh, tf prime criticm, a bold move, I like that.
When Dinobot was fighting Blackarachnia, he knew she was taking him and brought her to Megatron's jamming field to eliminate her
Ravage
Weaponry 5 maybe 6: big guns, invisiblity, and I think he might have laser eyes
Skill 7: one of the best shots, able to shoot all the weapons out of the maximals hands without even trying; not to mention his expirence in the war; flying his ship also has to count for something to
Strength 3: not really show that well, but I’m assuming he’s pretty weak
Tactics 8: he’s a spy, can set up a hostage negotiation, knows the value of having a man on the inside, and can easily sneak in and out of somewhere
Do you think these stats are accurate
That's a fairly good a breakdown of his abilities, though I still think we don't get enough of him to be a full judge.
Right off the bat Megatron has more weapons, the dino hands act as shoulder guns in robot mode.
I did rewatch about 15 episodes of the show to make this video, and he never used those in any of those, so I did forget, but they also were just about never used.
I think the transmetals are fireproof, sicne tarantulas is also thrown into lava and lived and so did optimal Optimus, this could explain why inferno seamed to get less threatening every season
TM2 Megatron shot Transmetal Tarantulas with fire breath and it clearly hurt him a lot.
@@PerspectiveEnd I meant fire isn’t fatal anymore to transmetals
You're forgetting that Transmetal Megatron also can use his dino arms as shoulder guns
I did forget that yes, but he doesn't do it enough for me to get a read on how effective they are.
@@PerspectiveEndpicture a nerf bullet but with thumbtacks on them and just scale it up to cybertronian and that’s basically what it is
Dinobot (Clone): Pretty spot on with that one - however it's kind weird how you fixated on the Blackarachnia fight when he also has a pretty significant fight with the TransMetal 2 version of Cheetor as well.
Yeah I question the research method
I rewatched about 15 episodes of the show to to make this list, including every episode after he was introduced, and the reason I focused on the Blackarachnia fight, is because she is the far FAR better barometer for his abilities.
TM2 Cheetor is literally worse than Blackarachnia in all ways except for strength. So that would also make him worse than Dinobot 2 in all ways. How am I supposed to figure out his stats from seeing him beat on someone who's not his equal in any way.
Do they have different strength levels in each mode. Blackarnia can swing rampage around in beast mode, but can’t pry herself out of Optimus’s hand in robot mode, and whenever we see waspinator carry something it’s in beast mode, same with most characters towing something, and rattrap can carry Dinobot in his transmetal form
I mean no matter what Optimus would be stronger, and it could be they aren't necessarily stronger, but in bug mode with 6 legs she might have more torque.
Tarantulas didn't get his "crossbow" back to shot a web, he used a blue pistol. He used the machine guns in his pauldrons twice, once against Silverbolt and once against the Vok, and he's also shown the be able to shoot missiles from them and in "Cutting Edge," he shoots missiles from his spider legs while in vehicle-mode. He also has the cybervenom arrowgun he uses on Optimal Optimus and the laser rifle he uses in "Other Visits." And I doubt he lost his web-slinging ability because he got on top of the Vok's battle station somehow. He also didn't loose his spider-fangs, they're on the backs of what become his robot feet and clearly visible in beast-mode. What do you think he was going to feed on that gazelle with? I agree on Quickstrike mostly, but I think him quick-drawing Depthcharge and putting him in stasis-lock with one shot deserves some recognition.
Finally rampage; his missile-launcher didn't destroy the whole mountain, just the cap, which is still impressive and raw energon--which is shown many times to be volatile and dangerous--is what's needed to kill him. Megatron's scalpel was likely made of refined energon and he would have used surgical precision when splitting Rampage's spark, which may have been what made it vulnerable to that raw energon in the first place.
Transmutate is a maximal but again we got less predacons so I get why they are included
I guess technically she is a Maximal, though more unaffiliated personally.
My brother was around to see Beast Wars as it was airing, but not consistently. Whenever he managed to catch an episode, it was part of a two-parter, which is always awkward.
Man that is the most unfortunate way to experience the show.
TM1 Megatron has little shoulder blasters that can form from the T-Rex arms on his robot mode shoulders
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Rampages demise is well set up, first of all ramages speak based on starscream’s Whcih was ejected with raw energon, two as you said energon allowed megatron to cut into his spark in the first place, as for why that didn’t kill him, he used a paper thin peice with no specified power level, deapth charge got probably the last of the super unstable energon that can kill transformers in seconds, and used a shard larger than the spark.
I think it's a comprehensible leap to say it works like that, but it was never established previously, and if it did work, why didn't they do that on Cybertron, rather than plan on dumping him in a black hole?
First tm megatron did use his shoulder moundted rex fingers as guns, probably once i dont remember, but he did, so... No, his tail gun is NOT his only weapon, and that itself at least had more than one firing mode so i would give him that at least
In my defense I re-watched like 15 episodes of the show to refresh my self on these abilities, and they were never used in any of those.
What would be the point of the other Firing modes though? Kill, Kill Slightly more hard?
@@PerspectiveEnd i mean, megatorn has used some fast firing from the tail and some charged ones, and to be completely honest might just be the animation speed and nothing more, and in the end, it surely hasnt made that much of a difference;
i think the transmetal upgrade was more for the body to resist energon and hasbro to sell toys more than "upgrading" them to be more combat effective, at least it DID change how they moved and traveled through the battlefield for hat is worth
Actually rampage and debcharge survived beast wars. Debcharge survived because of rampage spark got into his body and now both shear the body, so yeah. And it in collectors club comics , so it's official.
And how about do a characters power comparison from rid 2001, animated and cyberverse.
Depthcharge.
Honestly, even if Megatron is better at tactics than Optimus, Primal won the BW, cause Megatron had every single psychopath of the show on his side, plus 90% of all his troops wanted to kill him
Absolutely. While the Maximals weren't perfectly cohesive, they were a team.
Can’t wait for the roasts, your gonna kick quick strikes keister, I’ll star, he’s the only one I can think of that has more useful hands in beast mode, and he’s a scorpion, snake hybrid
Have I not done the Season 2 characters yet? I feel like I must have, but at the same time I don't remember.
I always loved Quickstrike. I love his design and personality. He is a funny jackass.
Yeah, it's a good design. I wish he was a little more like I remembered him.
I'm enjoying these comparison videos more than I thought I would 🙂👍👍
I'm happy to hear that.
Tarantulas really is the guy who has the best look armour set equipped yet does the bad in the game, the transart figure recently released is very nice nailed the look. Another favourite predacon of mine rampage was very pleasing in the show like yea he’s a powerhouse but not the stereotypical dumb one he’s got brains and uses it well, he does need a new figure 3P or hasbro either way big crab needs love
8:31 RAW Energon seems to be what can kill him, not the Energon Megatron used to torture him
Man, tarantulas got done dirty. Kindda good a showcase of his intelligence that he probably modified his body to get his old gear back.
T1 megatron Is still the best transmetal design.
Way better than the hasbro guys that don't even know what they are talking about
What guys are you talking about in particular?
@@PerspectiveEnd the people they hire to make the stats thats on the box
I personally think that the thing that killed Rampage was not the enegon crystal, but actually it's contact with his spark created some sort of short circuit that made the other crystals in the area explode and that's what killed him, basically a nuke-sized explosion, and thats why the maximals couldn't kill him back on Cybertron, such a big explosion would just draw attention and investigations about that caused it, and it would lead to the discovery of protoform X
Maybe the reason why such explosion didn't happen when Megatron cut his spark with the knife is because most energon crystal had already exploded on land
I mean wouldn't they still be in charge so it wouldn't matter if there were investigations.
I'm going to miss the series, hopefully You can give us more vintage Beast Wars reviews. I think that's the next collection I must start
I plan to give more as often as I am able.
I think Transmetal's 2 Megatron deserves more skill. As you said he beated Optimal Optimus the first time they fought. The second time he clearly got the upper hand. He got G1 Megatron's fighting skills when getting his spark. The only one who could beat him was Tiger hawk with his Super Powers. That is a lot to say. In regards of his strength, he threw Optimal away like he was nothing with just his tail.
I'd say he really only won that last time they fought. And that was a weird outlier.
So in most of the fights rampage seams to lose in beast wars, he’s actually just pretending to have lost because he doesn’t care
That is one way to interpret it yes.
On other way to interpret it is he fights badly because he knows he can't lose.
Any victory against him is only a setback since you can't die so he doesn't have a desire to win quickly or effectively.
@@PerspectiveEnd he is taken out pretty easily by dinobot in code of a hero
Question of the comments did you ever play the beast wars transmedal PS2 I think it was on PS2 anyway apparently in that game they had designs for transmedals fall, rhinox and waspinator
Those characters had toys so that makes sense
Quickstrike was my favorite character. I found him entertaining. Lol
He is fun. He's also just useless. Even if I remember him being more than that growing up.
@@PerspectiveEnd he's like the Predacon version of Yosemite Sam.
Bro how did I miss this by two hours and btw I love your videos perspective your the best creator on the platform
Thank you so much! And yeah, I think UA-cam isn't really telling people about this one a lot.
@@PerspectiveEnd clearly
Transmetal 1 Megs has blasters in his dino fingers, he can only use them in robot mode.
BW Megatron always had the best designs in the show
the only youtuber i actually give likes to on a regular when they ask
I'm glad to hear that. Some people still forget though.
I'd almost say to do a Beast Machines version of this just for the heck of it but everyone would rank so low it wouldn't even be funny
But then I'd need to think really hard about Beast Machines, and I don't wanna.
Respect
Thank you!
still love quickstrike and now I want to get my hands on a copy of rampages og toy@@PerspectiveEnd
Quickstrike does some skills and tatics in tangled web, he blocks paths by causing cave ins, and can dodge things easily but it was still early so maybe they wanted to make him look decently cool
also rampage uses his cannon on ravages ship and ravage sais *impressive*
And his ship has shields. So that really says his weaponry is on part with a ships guns or worse.
11 in tactics.
Yessss…
I think Transmetal 2 Megatrons Ice + Fire to be broken af. Ik it was hardly used but given time the amount of uses that could have like making ice constructs or using mist and boiling water mid combat
Makes sense
Watching these they should of gave the Transmetals more to really show they were upgraded. More weapons or just higher strength would of helped. I do like that Transmetal 2 does seem to be an actual upgrade tho
I tend to agree yeah.
come on guys let this man do what he wants, like and share all the BW videos
You guys did what you could. Thank you!
Surprised you didn´t deduct points from Quickstrike from the fact that he doesn´t have actual hands. He has the cobra head and the scorpion spindly long legs for hands. Opening a doorknob is for him just slightly easier than from the Vehicons from Beast Machines.
I mean yeah a door knob would be kind of hard, but they could probably handle a door Handle. They are more dexterous than just a pincer or something.
if you wanna do more of these, maybe try beast machines, or maybe the unicron trilogy
But then I'd have to think really hard about Beast Machines, and I don't wanna.
As for the UT, I'd need to rewatch that whole show, since it's been about 20 years since the last time.
you have no shortage of shows (or comics for that matter) to pick from evn if you don't wanna do either of the ones i suggested, assuming of course you want to do more of these to begin with@@PerspectiveEnd
Power Levels will be missed :(
A sad day for us all.
A prayer to the algorithm Gods
I’m just waiting for a review of prime period. That is a vid I can’t not be excited for
Yeah, that's been a LOOOOONG time in comming.
Good luck fighting the fan base though, that’s gonna suck
This video and the last one is awesome
I am on holidays atm and I was able to find a POTP Dreadwind and Darkwing (Darkwing was incomplete missing the prime armor and Dreadwing had loose wings) as well as a Titans Return Krok missing his front claws for only $50 AUD (About 31.50 USD).
Now because of the POTP figures, I really want to get a full POTP combiner. Just need an Inferno, Jazz and Wreck Gar to go with Darkwing and Dreadwind. I also plan to buy a bunch of prime masters because the combiner needs their bling.
The issue with dreadwind having loose wings seems quite common, i've got it and his right arm just dissapeared and the wings are to floppy for the alt mode to look good, makes a good arm though, i wish you luck in making the combiner.
A combiner idea I have for the POTP jets is using starscream as a torso, dreadwind/dark wing as legs, and making custom deluxe skywarp/Thundercracker as arms to have a seeker combiner
Who would win in a fight deapth charge or Dinobot, furthermore how would they get along if they met in the show
Depth Charge, he has FAAAR better long range weapons, and was strong enough to Fight Rampage. Who Dinobot defeated once with the element of surprise, but could not take one on one.
I may be wrong but i think he used mini gun spider legs once in the episode with the robo raptors
And, contrary to the thumbnail, we dont get to know whos the yamcha
It's Quickstrike. I thought that was clear.
I would ask for a beast machines one, but nobody really has any cool or impressive stats, and most of megatron’s forms would overpower the cast
And it's had to judge them because the enemies are all mooks.
And you never really get a sense for anyone's abilities outside of single aspects.
Like Ratrap ONLY has tactics any more, and Cheetor somehow only gets skill, where Primal only really has weaponry.
You can continue this beast wars power rating series through... *looks at beast machines*
Yeah, but then I'd have to think about Beast Machines, and I don't wanna.
oh no yamcha has been yamcha'ed
Yamcha's here! YAMCHA'S DEAD!!!
Great video.
Thank you kindly!
You should do this series for the Unicron Trilogy
I'd need to rewatch that whole show, since it's been about 20 years since the last time.
Technically Terrorsaur IS a transmetal 1 predacon that appeared in the show. He just died quickly. And he does have a toy and tech specs.
I'm a fight you on that, we see him glow implying that he was turning, though we never see the result.
@PerspectiveEnd idk if you would consider it Canon, but there was a Transmetals fighting game that had Rhinox and Waspinator in their transmetal bodies, and we see what they would've fought like. There is potential scaling there.
Well, we don't know if Rampage is actually dead: non-canon as it may be, in BWU Rampage gets blown to atoms only to be shown to have completely regenerated from it... even if it took an undisclosed amount of weeks so... Rampage COULD be still alive... he's just stuck in regeneration stasis.
Quickstrike: NOT a TransMetal - although he does have a weird peudo-like TransMetal-esque skin - presumably to make his look more different from Scorponok.
I dare you, Next up is Beast Machine Stats (Also Is part 2 of Beast Wars roasts coming up this month?)
I'd have to think about Beast Machines though, and I don't wanna.
Also I wanted to do that, but I've got SO much to cover this month I don't know what I'll do.
Still sad they killed off Terrorsaur before he got a chance to get his Transmetal body, as someone who owns the toy it's a cool design imo.
Yeah, I too wish we could have seen him continue on. It's always sad to see a character no longer around. No more interactions with them and other characters.
@@PerspectiveEnd Terrorsaur was one of my favs from season 1, really wished he got the chance to take Waspinator's place in the S2 predacon roster like he was always meant to do. Would've spared Waspinator from torment and give the Predacons a very competent flier.
1:22 I’m pretty sure he has missiles on his back on his trex arms
Tfp starscream
Weaponry: 7 he has wrist rockets and wrist blasters, both do decent damage
Skill: 6 he seams ok at that but i can’t think of a great example
Strength: 5 he is freaking scrawny but he can punch a whole through an autobots hide with minimal effort
Tactics: either 8 or 9, he can fly, is a great shot, can follow and give orders well, sets up abuses, and knows the value of of a tactical retreat
WHERE MY LEGACY RAMPAGE AT?!!
you know the saying "a hero is only as good as their villain" well for depth charge and rampage, I think that's the exception as rampage is a far better character then depth charge
like yeah rampage is obviously a monster but he's an entertaining monster like the joker, they do some truly horrible things but they're at least fun villains making them more of a love to hate which to me is the best kind of villain
Yeah Rampage is for sure the more Compelling one of the two, he's also a little more complicated than just a Monster.
@@PerspectiveEnd true episodes like transmutate do a lot to flesh him out it's just when he is more of a simple, crazed monster, he's very entertaining as the crazed monster
@@PerspectiveEnd also minor correction but tarantulus did use the mini gun shoulder guards in episode 48 so it wasn't a one off thing, rattrap also used his demo charges there
just wanted to mention that
since you're still in that month, I kinda want to dare you to do a Beast Machines Powerscale
then again it's Beast Machines, half of the cast is nerfed to make the stakes look more dire.
But then I'd have to think hard about Beast Machines and I don't wanna.
I dont really like the transmetal designs, especially primals, both of cheetor's, blackarachnia, and megatrons first, it took the entirety of the second season for me to finally warm up to it, but by then, they change it, but atleast optimus and megatrons 2nd are an upgrade, also will you do beast wars roasts part 2 this month, maybe as the last video of the month?
I'd tend to agree that the Original Designs for everyone were their best, but at the same time... Shiny Thing Good.
How would rampage work in shattered glass, not sure the immortal expirment works for a good guy, and what about deapth charge how would he work
And why am I not asking you this on the actual shattered glass beast wars characters you reviewed
It could be very funny to have him be the exact opposite. Where he's not immortal, but instead super brittle.
Depthcharge might want him dead for convincing his friends to defect.
Hey! This one came out on my birthday.
Would an amphibious tank be a good non beast alt mode for ramage to have. And is it properly shown he’s industructible, what is the best example of his power in your opinion
That would make a Ton of Sense for him yeah. I think that's probably one of the best proposals for him I've seen.
What would deapth charge and dinobot think of transmutate (sorry for asking two questions with the same characters twice in a row)
That's an interesting question. I think Dinobot might be grossed out by the idea of killing Transmutate for not being like them.
And I think Depthcharge probably wouldn't give a crap.
I think rampage could find a way to kill waspinator if he tried
Megatron (Double TransMetal): Not a TransMetal 2 - if you actually watch the espisode you'll notice Megatron doesn't get his dragon body from the TransMetal 2 Driver - which is a requirement to becoming a TransMetal 2. Instead he gets it the same way that Optimus Primal gets his Optimal Optimus form - by becoming half Autobot (or in Megatron's case, half Decepticon) via hosting the spark of his namesake. There's no official term for this but fans have nicknamed it "Double TransMetal". The term "TransMetal 2" Megatron comes from the error on his box for his original toy back in the day having the TransMetal 2 logo on it.
PE tends to get overly fixated on details like that, even when he's wrong
While yes it's true he does not get his Body from the TM2 driver, it is DISTINCTLY a TM2 body. You can tell because it's Asymetrical, which is a defining point of Transmetal 2.
And you can say that it's an error on his box, but he shares every distinguishing feature of a Transmetal 2.
SPOILER : Rampage was able to die because as we see, him being underwater inhibited his regenerative abilities
I don't think that's backed up by the show.
@@PerspectiveEnd we see his regeneration ability not work after he got his first cut from Depthcharge
Are most ranged weapons better than melee weapons because I think any tanager weapon you can just fire within melee range anyway 😊
In Best Wars it's kind of a toss up. Some melee weapons are about as powerful as the ranged stuff, but as a general rule, yeah Ranged weapons tend to be stronger.
Sad that beast wars stuff dosent do as well. Maybe because it’s obscure? Try titling these videos with like “TRANSFORMERS beast wars Predacon power levels” to have casuals more likely to click
I don't think Beast Wars is Obscure, I think it's just that Geewunners won't watch anything of Beast Wars no matter what.
@@PerspectiveEnd I didn’t think beast wars was obscure until ROTB came out and there were multiple r/transformers posts asking why Optimus prime was a monkey and why there were two
To the General Public sure. But to most transformers fans they should probably already know.