My boy rattrap doing impressively well, he’s not someone that I immediately think is that good on the battlefield but when you do think about it, he is the “I feel naked without my gun” guy and is actually really smart, at least in certain situation
9:31 - It still makes me laugh how they bothered keeping the circular saw edge and spike balls but reduced both to mere window dressing, granted it is metal as fuck window dressing but still......and that's just another thing I love about the Thrilling 30 toy, how the guns can switch to saw modes for more direct ripping and tearing :3
I think intelligence deserved its own stat. Characters like rhinox, tarantulas, tigatron and even megatron really shine here. I know it’s not combat related, but it makes up large parts of these characters.
It’s a shame we didn’t got more time with airazor. There was supposed to be an episode around her and blackarachnia, but writers didn’t came up how to progress this story. Shame
It would have been cool to get that yeah, though it is a little cringy to get the "Girls Strike Out" episode. But maybe it would have been good. I just think there's a large chance that that would be the one where people go, "Beast Wars Was Great... Except for that one episode."
@@PerspectiveEnd I would have enjoyed an Airazor & Blackarachnia episode, but the idea of Airazor abandoning her fellow Maximals to join forces with an enemy soldier DOES sound cringey, especially if they emphasized the whole “boys vs girls” angle, like the guys on both sides say or do something to turn their only female allies against them & they literally form a girl’s only faction to screw over both sides (I don’t think even Rattrap could say something offensive enough to make Airazor LITERALLY want to switch sides & kill him lol). Now, if the two of them were forced to team up to survive a mutually dangerous situation, Enemy Mine style, that could have worked. For example, maybe the two of them are caught in an alien trap & have to work together to save themselves and/or their respective teams, loads of possibilities there for storytelling. Alternatively, perhaps BA’s treacherous ways & sense of superiority over her fellow Predacons backfires on her when her fellow Preds decide to turn on her during a battle with Airazor, believing they can blame Airazor for BA’s destruction and avoid any possible repercussions so long as they manage to destroy Airazor as well (since Megs is more likely to accept their cover story so long as the maximals lost a soldier or too as well). Naturally, BA is forced to convince Airazor to team up with her to guarantee their mutual survival against her backstabbing teammates (I’m thinking Terrorsaur, Waspinator, and maybe one other season one Pred, they ALL have reason to hate BA & are reckless enough to pull such a stunt when Megatron isn’t watching, & their flight abilities & combined firepower are enough of a threat that she’d deem Airazor’s cooperation essential to her own survival, especially if she’s already damaged or been disarmed etc). Heck, I can even picture BA trying to convince Airazor to play along with a plan to assassinate Megatron & put her on the Predacon throne in exchange for a peace accord between their two sides. Regardless, all of these scenarios would have to end with BA & Airazor going their separate ways after the fact, whether because BA betrayed Airazor’s trust first or because the mutual danger had passed & they no longer required one another’s aid anymore.
The fact that Dinobot is able to go to blows with the heaviest hitters in the series despite having the worst arsenal is a testament to how gifted his is in combat. The only reason he didn’t make it to the end of the war was because he was forced to fight an entire army featuring bots with literal super powers. If he’d ever bothered to get ahold of some better weaponry he may have even been able to make it out of the Beast Wars. Then again, if he did that his character probably would have been ruined in Beast Machines so it’s probably for the best.
An honestly what I think did most of the damage to him, was just that first Sucker shot by Tarantulas, and then having Rampage's Cannon explode in his face.
My theory about Dinobot’s eye lasers is that when Primal punched him in the face during their fight he damaged the targeting for the lasers, making them hit elsewhere from where he aims
can we just talk about that cyberbee episode for a moment. that was just brutal.. He grabbed that anchor missile and outright just impaled a guy with it. thats a Protoform-x move not an Optimus move, i mean holy cow.
What's weird is that Rhinox was shown using Cheetor's blaster in the premier, which I'm going to chalk up to budget and time issues; Mainframe had a deadline, and one weapon model might've just taken longer than they had. Good thing he ditches it for something that not only has better firepower, but it arguable the ultimate weapon, at least in the first season.
Well he picks it up from the top of the hill, so I always interpreted it as him grabbing the gun as part of a retrieval, cause leaving a weapon behind like that would be a tactical mistake.
To explain Dinobot's eye laser accuracy, I will quote Azumanga Daioh. Primal: Dinobot, what are you doing? Dinobot: You know those tiny bubbles inside your eyes you sometimes catch? Yeah, I'm tracking them down as we speak.
Well yeah, I mean that's where I got the clip of him shooting the rocks to fall on them comes from, but it's not really a fair display because it's really easy to stab people who trust you in the back.
I'm happy to hear that, and yeah I'd be willing to do it with other stuff, I just need this video to not bomb. If it even does just a bit bad, I can justify making more because it won't hurt my cannel.
I'm glad you're still making it at the hustle and I have no idea how UA-cam stats work or how you're rewriting of the the word for cybertron siege video video did... But that's what I would like more of!
@@PerspectiveEnd I like how grounded in reality it was. Still only 6 episodes still pushing the toys that are on the shelf... I can daydream all day long about what kind of media I'm looking for but to just do an upgrade in the same constraints, demonstrating how much better it could have been, is kind of cathartic... It might seem frustrating but the original show is already frustrating so knowing that it could have been fixed Is cool.
Great video PerspectiveEnd!!!! Nice to see the fighting skills that the Maximals posses. Looking forward to the Predacons video. :D Keep on being amazing.
I honestly thought you was gonna do the toys and try to compare them to the show. But it actually makes sense to go by the show. And what about what about the time when Rhinox was infected with a virus he was able to fire lasers way more deadlier than Dinobot, and let's not forget the most OP Rhinox has in his ability in arsenal, his massive stinky bomb that was able to make the predacons tremble in fear and was able to incapacitate a majority of them which even made Megatron scream for his life out of sheer embarrassment. It was so powerful that it can be seen in space. Will you do this for G1 or other TF continuites?
How would you handle an animated version of this. Specificly the upgraded forms. Since there aren’t as many drastic upgrades in that show. I would just factor Optimus’s jet pack into his main stats, but sameri prowl would be completely separate
It's kind of hard to do that. I'm not as categorically familiar with Animated, as I am with Beast Wars, and the fights in that tend to be more about their story telling point, rather than a consistent thing.
Love how beast wars has its character for each thing without being a troupe, like strongman dumb or leader being perfect, like rhinox was a genius too and optimus primal wasn't a great leader but they still had all the roles filled. Mightve not made sense but you get what I mean
I feel like Optimus was the best leader, sure people didn't want to listen to them, but that was really at their expense. His problem wasn't poor leadership, it was a rebellious crew.
@@PerspectiveEnd I feel like his anger sometimes caught up to him but that also aligns with what you said, I don't think even g1 optimus could tolerate cheetor and rattrap sometimes. Good point
Ok, I know this isn’t super related to the vid, but I just want to personally thank you for preaching the good word of the MP soundwave, as I just got one of off eBay and I’m so taken with it. It is literally as perfect as both a masterpiece and a soundwave can get.
I agree with most of these expect Rhinox’s tactics the guy was able to lead blind maximals almost back to base and get them to drop the flyers terrorsaur and waspinator all while blind
oh my god ive been trying to talk so much about this you nailed it pretty good except for the single worst thing about the show inconsistensy battle powers I love the show don't get me wrong my only gripes with it is that because its last show was g1 and at that point bumblebee could defeat megatron with the power of being a good guy despite saying the decepticons are stronger they lose every single battle, the fact laserbeak rumble and ravage have more wins says a lot, thankfully beast wars gave some w to the preds but Im glad you're starting with maximals considering for the next video you can take into consideration if their power if the plot didn't favor the maximals ur lucky im only going bc i agree in almost everything you said because when it comes to preds prepare 10 paragraphs on why inferno was the second strongest pred for 10 episodes before he got power creeped as hell because of transmetal power
I don't think the battle prowess of the characters is all that inconsistent. I mean whats wrong with the Casseticons being really strong despite their size. A lot of the characters fall by the wayside in terms of power because of the Upgrades that show up later.
Beast Wars Season 1, Episode 13: Dark Designs Rhinox is turned into a Predacon by Megatron and takes down all of the other Predacons. He is only stopped when Megatron turns him back into a Maximal. Tactics: 10
The ep where the Predicons learn how bad it would be for Rhinox to be reprogrammed as one of them is easily one of my faves. Solid stat blocks. Wish Tigatron and Airazor had more screen time to shore up deficiencies, but can't have it all.
Autobot/Maximal leaders be like: Optimus Prime - Gun, Energy Axe Rodimus Prime - Rifle, Arm Blasters, Pizza Cutter Saw Fortress Maximus - Rifle, Double barreled Knee Guns, Torso Guns, Guns in his knuckles, little drone pals, MASSIVE SWORD Powermaster Prime and thereby Ginrai - Twin rifles, double barreled shoulder cannons, combining friend that adds shoulder missile launcher, jet pack, sword, and leg guns Star Saber - Sword, Gun, combing friend that adds twin shoulder cannons and massive Fuck Off Gun Dai Atlas - Sword, Gun, combining friends to become BIG POWERED Primal: double barreled cannons in each arm, dual shoulder cannons, twin swords, jet pack What I’m saying is, Fortress Maximus inspired his successors and even those who came before him to adopt one simple adage: Sword + More Daka = Win
Fortress Maximus doesn't count as an autobot Leader. And there was nothing really special about Primals swords. Also I don't see how he could Influence Primal, considering Larry Ditilio and Bob Forward had never seen Transformers in general.
I know what I did there. It's never that much more effective than that though. There's one time where it Knocked back Megatron like 30 feet, but didn't really hurt him, and that's the best it ever did.
I feel like Megatron would be the 2nd most powerful Predacon. His "Cleverness and cunning" could outwit the maximals and maybe new predacons to join his squad and the reason why that I gave megatron 2nd place because 1st place goes to Rampage, he has Starscream's immortal Spark (Even though he died by Raw energon in the ocean by Depth charge) and his Tank mode could turn some Maximals into heaps of scrap
As far as season 1 goes I'd actually disagree, I'd rate him actually pretty low. Almost all of his men are better armed than he is, and Megatron while having great Manipulation and Target Prioritization, doesn't seem to have a great grasp of positioning, or approach.
That could've been very interesting yes. The closest thing and she got to an episode already was the one that she had with Tigatron. You might want to establish their relationship further, but I would love to see her dynamic with other people more.
BW Megatrom- What is primal's power level Terrorsaur- This damn maximal is gifted across the board Optimus prime- And these gorilla hands are rated e for everyone
1: just found the jhiaxus, and dang you were right ugly but perfect in that ugliness 2: the black zarak i ordered arrived and it is awesome 3: your cheetor stats are way too buff for that foolish sycophantic cool-guy wannabe, he easily maxes out at -100 in everything he clearly was just an extra red shirt they forgot to kill off
Cool! Interesting you made based on what they do on the show, rather than the tech spech card on toys package! In that matter I always disagreed with those cards when they said Primal was smarter than Megatron. BW Megatron excels at it. I think he is the smarter and had the highest wits in the whole show. That's what made him so dangerous... Still his arrogance got the better of him on certain situations.
I honestly thought you was gonna do the toys and try to compare them to the show. But it actually makes sense to go by the show. Will you do this for G1 or other TF continuites?
I have to agree with all of these, tho rattrap might be the weakest in strength, but I have no doubt that he would beat cheetor in a fist fight, considering that he would definitely play dirty.
Save vid sequels for Beast Wars Week 2! If I recall, you were suggesting in a previous vid how you weren’t sure about think of enough content for a second week. I don’t know why. You’re a pretty creative guy. Maybe do the season one Preds this year, then do season 2’s teams the next one.
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was thinking, cause there's plenty to do more in other seasons. I don't need to stretch out this concept to 6 years long.
This isn't related to the video, but I have the faintest memory of watching beast wars. It's so faint I don't even know if it's real, but I remember seeing some of the characters later on and recognizing cheetor and dinobot, but again, very faintly, and only cheetors alt mode. So much is jumbled I don't think it's a real memory, but I've had it for so long I don't know Also it is a great video, hope you do the rest
There is three transformers who you,or anyone else cant beat,waspinater is immortal,he can basically be turned into atoms in one episode,and reappear the next episode,then starscream,who can return as a ghost,then(maybe)primus,who is god,
You forgot Rampage, who is also immortal, and may not have actually been killed by the Raw Energon to the spark. I mean he survived refined Energon cutting that in half before.
Feel like tigatron would earn a higher score in strength. He isn’t particularly strong but 6 feels a bit low. I easily see him defeating most average characters based on size alone
My boy rattrap doing impressively well, he’s not someone that I immediately think is that good on the battlefield but when you do think about it, he is the “I feel naked without my gun” guy and is actually really smart, at least in certain situation
Yeah, he's absolutely one of the most effective, and dangerous Maximals. Despite all his cowardice.
Need to do a toy edition with some of the most iconic toy exclusive beast wars characters. Would love to see this as a new series on the channel.
And how would I do the toys if they already have stats?
@@PerspectiveEnd remember?
@@PerspectiveEnd you compare the original stats to what you actually think they would be based on the toy.
@@PerspectiveEnd there’s always the comics like the gathering.
Of course.
I like the DBZ reference
"ITS 9..."
"That's it?"
"Yeah Nappa, kill him"
Thank you, I thought it was pretty funny my self.
9:31 - It still makes me laugh how they bothered keeping the circular saw edge and spike balls but reduced both to mere window dressing, granted it is metal as fuck window dressing but still......and that's just another thing I love about the Thrilling 30 toy, how the guns can switch to saw modes for more direct ripping and tearing :3
I like it because, who says Rhinox isn't a Metal Head.
I think intelligence deserved its own stat. Characters like rhinox, tarantulas, tigatron and even megatron really shine here. I know it’s not combat related, but it makes up large parts of these characters.
Tactics is pretty much an itelegence stat, even if there is a difference it’s so minimal there’s no point in giving it a new catagory
Rattrap really is great! Let's not forget he basically took out all of the preds at the end of season 2 by himself
Yeah, Rattrap is absolutely one of the most Effective Maximal memebers.
He took a Page of Dinobots combat manual for sure
It’s a shame we didn’t got more time with airazor. There was supposed to be an episode around her and blackarachnia, but writers didn’t came up how to progress this story. Shame
Wasn't it called bitch wars while it was being produced
It would have been cool to get that yeah, though it is a little cringy to get the "Girls Strike Out" episode. But maybe it would have been good.
I just think there's a large chance that that would be the one where people go, "Beast Wars Was Great... Except for that one episode."
@@PerspectiveEnd I would have enjoyed an Airazor & Blackarachnia episode, but the idea of Airazor abandoning her fellow Maximals to join forces with an enemy soldier DOES sound cringey, especially if they emphasized the whole “boys vs girls” angle, like the guys on both sides say or do something to turn their only female allies against them & they literally form a girl’s only faction to screw over both sides (I don’t think even Rattrap could say something offensive enough to make Airazor LITERALLY want to switch sides & kill him lol). Now, if the two of them were forced to team up to survive a mutually dangerous situation, Enemy Mine style, that could have worked. For example, maybe the two of them are caught in an alien trap & have to work together to save themselves and/or their respective teams, loads of possibilities there for storytelling. Alternatively, perhaps BA’s treacherous ways & sense of superiority over her fellow Predacons backfires on her when her fellow Preds decide to turn on her during a battle with Airazor, believing they can blame Airazor for BA’s destruction and avoid any possible repercussions so long as they manage to destroy Airazor as well (since Megs is more likely to accept their cover story so long as the maximals lost a soldier or too as well). Naturally, BA is forced to convince Airazor to team up with her to guarantee their mutual survival against her backstabbing teammates (I’m thinking Terrorsaur, Waspinator, and maybe one other season one Pred, they ALL have reason to hate BA & are reckless enough to pull such a stunt when Megatron isn’t watching, & their flight abilities & combined firepower are enough of a threat that she’d deem Airazor’s cooperation essential to her own survival, especially if she’s already damaged or been disarmed etc). Heck, I can even picture BA trying to convince Airazor to play along with a plan to assassinate Megatron & put her on the Predacon throne in exchange for a peace accord between their two sides. Regardless, all of these scenarios would have to end with BA & Airazor going their separate ways after the fact, whether because BA betrayed Airazor’s trust first or because the mutual danger had passed & they no longer required one another’s aid anymore.
I like your funny words, magic man.
Thank you.
The fact that Dinobot is able to go to blows with the heaviest hitters in the series despite having the worst arsenal is a testament to how gifted his is in combat. The only reason he didn’t make it to the end of the war was because he was forced to fight an entire army featuring bots with literal super powers. If he’d ever bothered to get ahold of some better weaponry he may have even been able to make it out of the Beast Wars. Then again, if he did that his character probably would have been ruined in Beast Machines so it’s probably for the best.
Or he could’ve actually salvaged Beast Machines. Think about it like that.
An honestly what I think did most of the damage to him, was just that first Sucker shot by Tarantulas, and then having Rampage's Cannon explode in his face.
My theory about Dinobot’s eye lasers is that when Primal punched him in the face during their fight he damaged the targeting for the lasers, making them hit elsewhere from where he aims
See that would make sense except he hit Optimus in the face right after the punch.
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah. Maybe he hit because of proximity, maybe I’m just wrong
can we just talk about that cyberbee episode for a moment.
that was just brutal.. He grabbed that anchor missile and outright just impaled a guy with it.
thats a Protoform-x move not an Optimus move, i mean holy cow.
I really like these non review videos, always so fun to watch
Thank you! I do like stepping outside my comfort zone.
What's weird is that Rhinox was shown using Cheetor's blaster in the premier, which I'm going to chalk up to budget and time issues; Mainframe had a deadline, and one weapon model might've just taken longer than they had. Good thing he ditches it for something that not only has better firepower, but it arguable the ultimate weapon, at least in the first season.
Well he picks it up from the top of the hill, so I always interpreted it as him grabbing the gun as part of a retrieval, cause leaving a weapon behind like that would be a tactical mistake.
I'd be curious to see this again with the upgraded forms, mainly Transmetals. Cheetor and Megatron especially change a good deal with these.
Cheetor still sucks when he gets the Transmetal form though. He like crashes all the time, and it doesn't really help him fight.
I always viewed rattrap as the kind of fighter that just runs up to his opponent and stabs them when they’re not looking
I mean he is the kind of guy who would do that too.
To explain Dinobot's eye laser accuracy, I will quote Azumanga Daioh.
Primal: Dinobot, what are you doing?
Dinobot: You know those tiny bubbles inside your eyes you sometimes catch? Yeah, I'm tracking them down as we speak.
This inspired me to try and make some of the characters in my show more tactically inclined
Honestly I think tactical fights are way more interesting than power based fights.
I just relized most bots and cons in other shows have only 2 basic weapons, we have a lot more variety in this show
i love Powerscaling I'm from the vs community
I'm happy to hear that. Did you think I was fair here?
Awesome video! I loved this. Instantly added to my rewatch playlist.
( _loads gun_ )
*now do season 2 and the transmetals.*
I plan to, but I'm thinking about saving it for the next Beast Wars Week.
Rhinox should get a 9 for tactics. Maybe even a 10. Remember that episode where he was reprogrammed to be evil, and he wrecked all the Predacons?
Well yeah, I mean that's where I got the clip of him shooting the rocks to fall on them comes from, but it's not really a fair display because it's really easy to stab people who trust you in the back.
Gotta say this is one of my favorite non-review videos you've put out. Would you ever consider doing this with any of the others shows as well?
I'm happy to hear that, and yeah I'd be willing to do it with other stuff, I just need this video to not bomb. If it even does just a bit bad, I can justify making more because it won't hurt my cannel.
Metroplex is Tier SSS in G1, FoC and Transformers in general
Love the concept and execution, keep up the great content
Thank you so much.
now this is interesting now i want to see what you do with the predacons
Thank you! I just hope this video does well.
I'm glad you're still making it at the hustle and I have no idea how UA-cam stats work or how you're rewriting of the the word for cybertron siege video video did... But that's what I would like more of!
I want to and fully plan to make the sequel to that. I've actually wanted to do it for over a year now, it just keeps getting pushed back.
@@PerspectiveEnd I like how grounded in reality it was. Still only 6 episodes still pushing the toys that are on the shelf... I can daydream all day long about what kind of media I'm looking for but to just do an upgrade in the same constraints, demonstrating how much better it could have been, is kind of cathartic... It might seem frustrating but the original show is already frustrating so knowing that it could have been fixed Is cool.
Great video PerspectiveEnd!!!! Nice to see the fighting skills that the Maximals posses. Looking forward to the Predacons video. :D Keep on being amazing.
I honestly thought you was gonna do the toys and try to compare them to the show. But it actually makes sense to go by the show.
And what about what about the time when Rhinox was infected with a virus he was able to fire lasers way more deadlier than Dinobot, and let's not forget the most OP Rhinox has in his ability in arsenal, his massive stinky bomb that was able to make the predacons tremble in fear and was able to incapacitate a majority of them which even made Megatron scream for his life out of sheer embarrassment. It was so powerful that it can be seen in space.
Will you do this for G1 or other TF continuites?
We don't talk about Farting Rhinox.
And I might do that yes, I just need this video to not Crash and burn first.
If im correct tigertron also has a freeze shot/ray
He is never shown to have that in the content of the show.
@@PerspectiveEnd he did used it once to freeze scorponok, i might be able to find the clip
Ever noticed this is one of the few shows with actual bullets for the guns
Some of them, some times. And yes.
How would you handle an animated version of this. Specificly the upgraded forms. Since there aren’t as many drastic upgrades in that show. I would just factor Optimus’s jet pack into his main stats, but sameri prowl would be completely separate
It's kind of hard to do that. I'm not as categorically familiar with Animated, as I am with Beast Wars, and the fights in that tend to be more about their story telling point, rather than a consistent thing.
Transmetal cheetor has the worst arsenal
It probably is a downgrade yes.
Love how beast wars has its character for each thing without being a troupe, like strongman dumb or leader being perfect, like rhinox was a genius too and optimus primal wasn't a great leader but they still had all the roles filled. Mightve not made sense but you get what I mean
I feel like Optimus was the best leader, sure people didn't want to listen to them, but that was really at their expense.
His problem wasn't poor leadership, it was a rebellious crew.
@@PerspectiveEnd I feel like his anger sometimes caught up to him but that also aligns with what you said, I don't think even g1 optimus could tolerate cheetor and rattrap sometimes. Good point
how about a version of this for animated. though to be fair, basicly all the decepticons would outdue the autobots
I've only Watched through Animated Fully 1 and a Half times, so I can't call my self an Authority on it's powerscaling like I could for Beast Wars.
I loved this and would adore to see more series covered in the future! Like Animated or even G1!
I'd like to make more, I just need this video to not crash and burn.
Ok, I know this isn’t super related to the vid, but I just want to personally thank you for preaching the good word of the MP soundwave, as I just got one of off eBay and I’m so taken with it. It is literally as perfect as both a masterpiece and a soundwave can get.
I'm stoked to hear that. So happy to have convinced you to pick that thing up. It's soooooo good.
I remember when your channel was pretty new, proud of you bro keep up the good work
I do to, thanks for sticking with me. Where did you go all this time?
@@PerspectiveEnd in the dark realm
I agree with most of these expect Rhinox’s tactics the guy was able to lead blind maximals almost back to base and get them to drop the flyers terrorsaur and waspinator all while blind
I wouldn't really call that Tactics though.
Huh this is good hope this is going to be a series
If it can get a reasonable number of views I'd be happy to do that.
Very interesting and experimental video.
Thank you. I'm probably the Transformers reviewer who wants to step outside my comfort zone the most.
You forgot to say tigertron’s tactics
Perspective End doing a power level vid for the beast wars characters interesting........TAP IMMEDIATELY.
Hope it was as good as you wanted.
@@PerspectiveEnd And it was PE it was
This channel has truly earned the definition of memes when it comes to evolving
I'm not quite sure what that means, but... Thank you?
You don’t know what memes are? Mate come on Lol
For clarification I’m talking about the actual definition of memes not the jokey nature of the terminology
Great video! I want to see more like this, especially with the season 2 and 3 versions of these characters because some of them are just O.P.
I would love to do them.
Hope you had a wonderful birthday! Also very good video I loved It
Thank you very much!
I like the scouter in in the thumbnail.
Thank you! I know I had to include it when I decided on the It's 9 joke.
oh my god ive been trying to talk so much about this you nailed it pretty good except for the single worst thing about the show
inconsistensy battle powers
I love the show don't get me wrong my only gripes with it is that because its last show was g1 and at that point bumblebee could defeat megatron with the power of being a good guy despite saying the decepticons are stronger they lose every single battle, the fact laserbeak rumble and ravage have more wins says a lot, thankfully beast wars gave some w to the preds but Im glad you're starting with maximals considering for the next video you can take into consideration if their power if the plot didn't favor the maximals
ur lucky im only going bc i agree in almost everything you said because when it comes to preds prepare 10 paragraphs on why inferno was the second strongest pred for 10 episodes before he got power creeped as hell because of transmetal power
I don't think the battle prowess of the characters is all that inconsistent.
I mean whats wrong with the Casseticons being really strong despite their size.
A lot of the characters fall by the wayside in terms of power because of the Upgrades that show up later.
This video feels oddly nostalgic.... And I don't know why
I don't know why either, maybe it's like my old stuff more.
Are you going to do a video on the hasbro pulse figure show?
Wednesday my dude.
Can't wait for the Preds, especially Waspinator and Terrorsaur.
It does look like it will be happening for sure at some point now.
Dinobot has the worst weaponry, in transmetal cheetor
What do you mean "In Transmetal Cheetor"?
Would’ve never thought of this
Beast Wars Season 1, Episode 13: Dark Designs
Rhinox is turned into a Predacon by Megatron and takes down all of the other Predacons. He is only stopped when Megatron turns him back into a Maximal.
Tactics: 10
No. See, that doesn't count. It's easy to be stabbed in the back by someone you don't realize is planning on it.
The ep where the Predicons learn how bad it would be for Rhinox to be reprogrammed as one of them is easily one of my faves. Solid stat blocks. Wish Tigatron and Airazor had more screen time to shore up deficiencies, but can't have it all.
Thank you very much, and yeah that is one of the stand out episodes of the show.
Love this vid, good shit my dude
Thank you so much!
Guys I might be wrong but I don't think perspective end likes cheetor very much.
The funny thing is I used to LOVE him when I was a Child.
Really like this one!! Very good
Thank you so much!
Have you been told about the New Discord we are making yet?
@@PerspectiveEnd yes i have, and i am waiting for the invite link for when its up
We can just invite you now.
What is the main difference between skill and tactics. And who is the single most skilled predacon or maximal in the series
A skilled fighter wins the fight by being better than their opponent. A tactical fighter wins the fight before it ever started.
Airazor literally swatted one of waspinators blasts and then blasts him. I think that’s skill
What do you mean Swatted.
@@PerspectiveEnd like just smacked the bullets mid air
When did that happen?
@@PerspectiveEnd spiders game, and thanks for giving more than one reply, though I didn’t expect it to be this comment
@@PerspectiveEndstill I think that earns her at least a 6
Watching this again so part 2 comes sooner lol, I’d love to see one for G1 too at some point
Seems like Part 2 WILL be happening.
love this vid would be cool to see you do it to the g1 cast
I could do that, sounds fun too. I just need this video to not tank, to justify it.
Autobot/Maximal leaders be like:
Optimus Prime - Gun, Energy Axe
Rodimus Prime - Rifle, Arm Blasters, Pizza Cutter Saw
Fortress Maximus - Rifle, Double barreled Knee Guns, Torso Guns, Guns in his knuckles, little drone pals, MASSIVE SWORD
Powermaster Prime and thereby Ginrai - Twin rifles, double barreled shoulder cannons, combining friend that adds shoulder missile launcher, jet pack, sword, and leg guns
Star Saber - Sword, Gun, combing friend that adds twin shoulder cannons and massive Fuck Off Gun
Dai Atlas - Sword, Gun, combining friends to become BIG POWERED
Primal: double barreled cannons in each arm, dual shoulder cannons, twin swords, jet pack
What I’m saying is, Fortress Maximus inspired his successors and even those who came before him to adopt one simple adage:
Sword + More Daka = Win
Fortress Maximus doesn't count as an autobot Leader.
And there was nothing really special about Primals swords.
Also I don't see how he could Influence Primal, considering Larry Ditilio and Bob Forward had never seen Transformers in general.
@@PerspectiveEnd he took over from Rodimus in Headmasters from then until the end of the show
4:24 dude that was a bad example, he was very damaged and low on energy at that point, of course it would have been less effective
I know what I did there. It's never that much more effective than that though. There's one time where it Knocked back Megatron like 30 feet, but didn't really hurt him, and that's the best it ever did.
I just love how cheetor is like the weakest
Even when compared to Rattrap, the small coward. To be fair Rattrap is one of the most dangerous Maximals in Practice.
Great video. It would be interesting to see their toy stats compared to your numbers.
I'm sure they'd be very different if only because Tactics isn't something they measure.
@@PerspectiveEnd It would still be interesting to see… especially if their stats agreed with you!
I feel like Megatron would be the 2nd most powerful Predacon. His "Cleverness and cunning" could outwit the maximals and maybe new predacons to join his squad and the reason why that I gave megatron 2nd place because 1st place goes to Rampage, he has Starscream's immortal Spark (Even though he died by Raw energon in the ocean by Depth charge) and his Tank mode could turn some Maximals into heaps of scrap
As far as season 1 goes I'd actually disagree, I'd rate him actually pretty low. Almost all of his men are better armed than he is, and Megatron while having great Manipulation and Target Prioritization, doesn't seem to have a great grasp of positioning, or approach.
If you were to write airazors stats yourself what would you have put
I'd have probably given her 7's in most categories, since the Maximals need more high tier members to balance the scales.
whats your opinion on the new legacy leo prime in 5 words
Big Brother Ed-Ward.
@@PerspectiveEnd why the hell you gotta do me like that man.......
I hope this gets a sequel
It did not crash and burn.
I think DBZ Abridged had the right idea:
power levels don't matter and never did.
I think they are fun.
If airazor got an episode what would you make it about, I think pairing her up with dinobot could be interesting
That could've been very interesting yes. The closest thing and she got to an episode already was the one that she had with Tigatron.
You might want to establish their relationship further, but I would love to see her dynamic with other people more.
Super cool vid!
Thank you so much!
do a video about the new reveals already
It's beast wars week he will do it next week
just wait dude
Don't worry it won't be that long till it happens.
Airazor skill 4?
4 does seem fair enough. Though I feel like if they were to show it off more it'd be higher, they'd probably make her a skill fighter.
@@PerspectiveEnd good enough for me.
it’s sad this probably isn’t gonna get a sequel
No it will. I have plans.
@@PerspectiveEnd that’s good it’s just not doing so well
BW Megatrom- What is primal's power level
Terrorsaur- This damn maximal is gifted across the board
Optimus prime- And these gorilla hands are rated e for everyone
Punches Terrorsaur.
1: just found the jhiaxus, and dang you were right ugly but perfect in that ugliness
2: the black zarak i ordered arrived and it is awesome
3: your cheetor stats are way too buff for that foolish sycophantic cool-guy wannabe, he easily maxes out at -100 in everything he clearly was just an extra red shirt they forgot to kill off
I know right, it's remarkable just how enjoyable they made that figure.
Nice! Glad you like it.
I feel like I was fair to Cheetor.
That bastard deserves nothing but to be known as the character who shouldnt exist
I need to watch this show. I watched maybe the first half of season one and I did get into it but I need to try it again.
Are you going to do a sequel tomorrow or on another Friday. Either way great video and hope your doing better with having days off.
I'm not sure when I plan to do the Sequel, could be a few weeks.
@@PerspectiveEnd I don’t care when you do a sequel Fridays are your off days I won’t push
Bro I cannot wait to next one
Cool! Interesting you made based on what they do on the show, rather than the tech spech card on toys package! In that matter I always disagreed with those cards when they said Primal was smarter than Megatron. BW Megatron excels at it. I think he is the smarter and had the highest wits in the whole show. That's what made him so dangerous... Still his arrogance got the better of him on certain situations.
What is your fav transformers show that’s not connected to g1
I guess Animated. I'd need to see the rest of Earthspark to really judge.
What do you think of the recently revealed figures like legacy Tarn and Hotshot?
You will find out next Wednesday.
I’d like to see this done for Animated
I could give that a Try at some point.
What about death charge?
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I am devastated to learn that Dinobot, my favorite Beast Wars character, actually has shit weapons. At least Code of Hero lets him solo all the Preds.
Interesting break down. And Rhinox is OP, when not the Checkers version.
Indeed he is.
Like this format ^_^
What is that Beast Wars-style font?
It is called Beast Wars Condensed. I got it from either FreeFonds, DaFont, or Fonts101.
I honestly thought you was gonna do the toys and try to compare them to the show. But it actually makes sense to go by the show.
Will you do this for G1 or other TF continuites?
FREE ENGAGEMENT!!!
rattrap needs a 3rd party MP....
Can't wait for you to see the ants power level
More stat sheets please, this is soething I ised to do with stat spreads from other franchises
Interesting, Happy to hear that I'm bringing back fond memories.
I have to agree with all of these, tho rattrap might be the weakest in strength, but I have no doubt that he would beat cheetor in a fist fight, considering that he would definitely play dirty.
Save vid sequels for Beast Wars Week 2! If I recall, you were suggesting in a previous vid how you weren’t sure about think of enough content for a second week. I don’t know why. You’re a pretty creative guy.
Maybe do the season one Preds this year, then do season 2’s teams the next one.
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was thinking, cause there's plenty to do more in other seasons. I don't need to stretch out this concept to 6 years long.
@@PerspectiveEnd if Shark Week can do it, so can you! 20 years of Beast Wars Weeks!
This isn't related to the video, but I have the faintest memory of watching beast wars. It's so faint I don't even know if it's real, but I remember seeing some of the characters later on and recognizing cheetor and dinobot, but again, very faintly, and only cheetors alt mode. So much is jumbled I don't think it's a real memory, but I've had it for so long I don't know
Also it is a great video, hope you do the rest
That's not really enough of me to go off of to tell you weather or not it's really from the show.
And thank you.
Waspinator is the most powerful in beast wars he just didn't unleash his power because it would shatter the entire universe
To be Fair he is immortal like Rampage.
@@PerspectiveEnd he and shaggy would wreak havoc across the multiverse
There is three transformers who you,or anyone else cant beat,waspinater is immortal,he can basically be turned into atoms in one episode,and reappear the next episode,then starscream,who can return as a ghost,then(maybe)primus,who is god,
You forgot Rampage, who is also immortal, and may not have actually been killed by the Raw Energon to the spark. I mean he survived refined Energon cutting that in half before.
I like this would love to see it done for the unicron trilogy power levels there see all over the place
That'd be very hard, because it's been like 20 years since I watched Armada.
@@PerspectiveEnd the question is would the minicons affect their score or would it be 2 separate scores both with and without minicons
please do preds
This video didn't crash and burn so I plan to.
Feel like tigatron would earn a higher score in strength. He isn’t particularly strong but 6 feels a bit low. I easily see him defeating most average characters based on size alone