Proof? Vive has working wireless capabilities, software compatibility with steam vr is better on the vive since Valve and HTC have partnered, touchpads allow for faster and more accurate movement, vive is better out of the box, vive have better tracking area, vive tracking method is more accurate and responsive to rift. And you're goona say that rift is better cause its smaller and has a smoother look? No, don't judge a book by its cover, I rather have a better performing headset then a mediocre one that LOOKS fancy and doesnt have the oomph to back it up.
It's really interesting with this completely new platform of gaming, the standards haven't been set and that's what i love! For both computer and console gaming we have standards of how you play, controller/mouse + keyboard and also all genres often have very similar ways to play and controls. Almost all VR games handle differently, some games try Uis, some try having a backpack you grab behind your back, some try teleporting, etc. It's going to be really interesting to see how the VR platform developes in the future
Jesus Christ Radical, you didn't have to take him literally. I doubt he meant it is LITERALLY 50/50. Also he said it starts to approach 50/50 not that it IS 50/50. Fact of the matter is the amount of ads, for 5 minutes of content, is ridiculous.
Chris Davis That is bullshit. Do you honestly think Linus wouldn't do it if adblock didn't exist? Seriously? Linus is very corporate he would still do it for more profit don't kid yourself.
Well vr has has it's time a long time ago but then it was just a screen inside a pair of goggles, so basically no immersive experience. Now that we have more advanced technology you can move and look around, which is what makes vr entertaining. Being able to move around in a virtual world is what has been the goal always and now it's become reality, and it works really well. I would recommend to take a look at Microsoft's project where they merge reality and virtuality into one
Yes, and I agree that the Oculus is iconic for that reason, but that shouldn't justify you to but the Rift. My brother found a Virtual Boy ( VR headset made by Nintendo in the *EARLY 90's* ) and I was able to try it out yesterday. You can't turn your head around, it's pretty hard to explain how it handles, but it was 3d, and this is talking about back in time before even the snes! It's fun to use, but it never caught on and now it's a rare system...Anyways, before I keep rambling, let me tell you that although the Oculus started the trend for VR, it was Nintendo that prepared for it's future, although it was a failure. The Oculus shouldn't be praised higher than the vive for it's history, but instead just enjoyed for advancing VR technology to date.
Nobody wants a big heavy cable pulling on the back of their head, also the HTC isn't a comfortable headset. It's Bulky and the images aren't crisp.. the HTC isn't the benchmark headset people should want.
While there's no debate the Vive FOV is pretty much better.. I'd make a bet that the VIVE feels more immersive purely because the screen is a lot brighter. Personally I don't think any VR headset is room scale ready-enough. On the other hand tho even though I think the Rift is the better headset they've got a steep uphill battle to get people to want to use their platform.
yeah to be honest i use vive but i'll probably be doing a lot more rift now that its available for me to use with controller.s its soo much more comfy.
I agree, especially when you see the biased and often misleading/wrong statements by the upvoted comments here. It's refreshing to see a video that doesn't try to paint good/bad guys and further fuel the fanboy war that is starting in VR...
Thermometer80 fanbois come whenever there is 2 or more different products. People don't want to feel like they bought "an inferior device". No, they are just different
I just bought an HTC Vive and am loving it. Glad to hear Oculus is finally getting some love with the new touch controllers. The more VR adoption rate there is the more VR will become a standard and that means we all win for more VR games and items.
I still believe that the ideal of VR should be [ headset = monitor + sensor array, not platform ] and [ controller = keyboard or gamepad, independent from platform ] and I should be able to use an Oculus controller on a Vive or even OSVR.
@@MemeLair no it wasnt lmao the only thing that was heavily implied was that its a complete matter of opinion based on the positives and negatives of both and tbh the only benefit he stated about the rift to the vive was the controllers which doesnt even matter anymore cuz u can buy valve index controllers for your vive now. Plus vive has better tracking, longer cables, better graphics, fov, etc. and you can buy a wireless adapter for it too!
@@volty313 He said he preferred the ergonomics of the Oculus rift, he prefers the lower weight, the included headphones, the controllers. The price etc. And at the time of the posted video it's clear he prefers the Rift and the index controllers didn't exist.
yeah and you said that he commented before the movie came out so obviously i would say there was a book because otherwise how would he know since it wasn't out yet... you guys have to use your head a little cmon...
lmao According to most reviewer comparisons now, The Rift + Touch is coming out on top. As someone who's been a PC gamer for decades, I'm glad I picked the Rift, Touch is freaking amazing. You're missing out. ;P
Watching these old Rift and Vive videos made me realise why this channel stopped following VR properly for a little while. Its because these kinds of videos were always Luke's pet thing, and with him gone doing Floatplane nobody else at LTT was really ever going to step in in the same capacity. It was only with the Valve Index and HL:Alyx that Linus and the rest saw something genuinely interesting coming out of VR and that there was an audience for it and that's why we then got content on things like the Rift S and Quest long overdue.
get a psvr its the best headset for the price right now (400 bucks is okay) and it has some real games (Robinson the Journey, Rigs, Resident Evil 7, Driveclub VR, Gran Turismo Sport, BatmanVR, Star Wars Xwing VR, Ace Combat 7, Starblood Arena, Far Point and much more)
coolertuep I agree, for the affordable buck the PSVR is bang on, obviously at the cost slight lower resolution , I gambled on the psvr but luckily it paid off as I love the thing , don't get me wrong I will eventually upgrade but not for at least 2 years. I'm mega happy with my headset . I'm starting at VHS then will eventually go HD 👍
@Martin Roberts The screen is very very similar to rift and vive. Rift and vive have 20% higher resolution but uses a Pentile matrix (50% less subpixels) then the PSVR which uses a full RGB matrix. SO in the end, the image quality is almost the same on all 3
its better this way because you're usually holding something in vr and the controller makes it feel more realistic. With a glove it would be odd. The oculus controllers are near perfect for vr.
Misael Cifuentes its a really bad deal if you have to buy the controllers separately for $200 (last time i checked) and another camera to move around in your room for $80 more totaling to $880 which is $80 more than the vive. I got the vive $100 off so it makes it an even better deal.
No, can't grip things that aren't actually there. Won't work. There is a exoskeleton VR glove that has force feedback, THAT is what you would want if you want hand presence in VR.
I'm sure all these "facebook sucks vive is better" people here don't own any VR device. No one in their right mind would spend a grand on Vive just because Oculus happens to be owned by Facebook. It's about games, features and comfort, not which company makes it. That said I personally still prefer Vive because of its better tracking and USB compatibility issues Oculus has been having.
I think it's cause the hype is dead, people thought VR was going to be a sudden revolution and were disappointed. I think it'll be a slow burn but eventually as it gets more affordable I think it'll be a new console like industry.
Oculus is still the worse option when it comes to picking your copororate overlord. Oculus is owned by Facebook while much control with the Vive lies with GabeN himself. I'd go with Vive. My buddies who are starting a VR company are working exclusively with Vive.
***** I dont have anywhere near 800 dollars. I can wait because I am forced to. If you feel like you cant wait at all. Then get the oculus, if you want a higher quality version, and can wait, be patient.
I just got a vive last week. Don't wait or you will always be missing out on having one for the "next big thing". I don't regret my purchase at all and am having a great time with friends.
Dmitri Tousaint Its pretty fun Dmitri. You cant beat the price at all. I mostly use mine for VR sim racing- but the games with the touch controllers are a lot of fun as well. Very fluid movements. Its a step above the Gear VR and Track IR if you've ever used those. I probably wouldn't be too happy if I'd of paid 800 dollars, but for 400 its more than worth it.
I just got one, and I love it for Subnautica and Elite: Dangerous. That said, I find the sensors cables are way too short for setting up a play space; I could barely snake them around the confines of my large computer desk. Also, when arranged at my PC in this fashion, the setup would not proceed because the sensors are too close. All in all definitely not a good set up experience, not to mention the technical troubles I've experienced with installing it. (USB devices like webcam and Xbox controller malfunction, PC crashes when I reboot [memory exception errors]) Still, after the things I've played in VR, I won't take it back. Spent another $150.00 on cables and an extra sensor to set up a play space, and hopefully it goes off without a hitch.
I greatly enjoyed the vertagear ad, it was hilarious seing colton just do random stuff. As a sidenote, the focus on the "FRONT ^"-sticker did not go unnoticed, shots fired yo :')
To anyone watching now, you can get Touch controllers (with the extra camera) plus Rift for only 400$. As far as I know Vive is still around twice as much.
I remember seeing the oculus rift when it first came out everything was so amazing and I wanted one badly a few years later and i now own a quest 2, dream come true
Wait... so now, instead of the Vive where I get to move about freely, sit or stand, and play tons of supported games made by many different developers, I could have an amazing VR experience where I not only HAVE to sit down, can't move about freely much at all, AND just for 20% of the freedom of the Vive, I get to pay for a 3rd sensor? All for a wonderfully locked down, facebook controlled DRM-filled experience? Well sign me up! ... for never buying this thing ever. What a POS. The HTC Vive has won the "VR war". It's over. Deal with it.
no, you misunderstood that part dude. Also, many have said 2 sensors is all you really need. almost all standing vr games are designed so you don't need to turn around, it all in front of you.
Your totally misunderstood the whole thing. 2 sensors= you can either play standing , but you can't turn around, or play sited and turn around 3 sensors= full range of motion, but with a smaller area than the Vibe (which could be good if you live in a small department, or bad if you actually have the space and want to use it) 4 sensors= exactly the same experience as Vive
cosmic dave, i dont know what games you played, but while playing on my vive im constantly turning around, what are you gonna do when an enemy shows up behind? shoot blindly over your shoulder? dont think so, take a turn around the corner? oh wait i cant... the best vr experience is vive handsdown, its amazing how some rift users keep trying to boost the rift :S
what are you talking about? The rift is room scale capable but a lot of the games are focused on standing. but you can do room scale if u want and a lot of room scale games will support both. but i'll enjoy using the standing experience of rift in my small room and doing vive in the living room. Problem is i have to take my pc in my living room to use vive.
ThierryTheuns i would like to see someone do that. Only thing i dont like about the rift controller is that it uses AA batteries. Why cant they be rechargeable
ThierryTheuns i would if i had a set of Rift controllers and a Vive. Sadly i have neither of those things and i don't plan on buying a vr headset anytime soon
AA batteries can be rechargeable. They're also better than having an integral battery - you can swap the batteries out for freshly charged ones in a few seconds, thanks to the fantastic magnetic battery compartment cover. If the battery was internal and your Touch controllers ran flat, you'd have to wait for them to recharge. I far prefer having removable batteries.
VR is some really exciting shit, man. I feel like a kid again when using it and even just talking about it. I love how there is this little console war between the Rift and the Vive, it brings me back to old the days of Sega vs Nintendo. Today, the PS4 and the Xbox One just feel too damn similar, you could hardly even call it a console war.
My main reason for going for Rift was one simple reason. You can play any game on both the Oculus store AND the steam store (including many games that say they are Vive Only such as accounting etc)
Some things that were not pointed out in the video: It's still cheaper and more efficient to get room scale with the VIVE. Oculus + the touch controllers are $800 + $80 if you want to move around more but still less than the VIVE. The VIVE has also been out for much longer meaning it has more games and it's cheaper to buy since you can find them used. Another aspect not mentioned is that the cameras for the Oculus need to be plugged into your computer. This means that if you want to plug in more cameras, there will be more wires going across your room and more ports on your PC used up. The tracking can also be wonky since the cameras are typically placed at waist height on tables. This means that you cannot go prone or you will lose tracking from the cameras. The Oculus's controllers are still impressive but if you want the same room scale experience as the VIVE, you may be disappointed.
Why doesn't anyone bring up in these reviews that you have to ally with Innovative Online Industries (Facebook), and they will own all your games and your soul in their little walled garden of shifty ethics, if you buy the Rift and games on Oculus Home? What happens when nVidia or AMD produces the next great VR HMD? Nothing if you own a Vive, as HTC isn't your life partner, and you can just jump ship. But if you own a Rift, well, you're at their mercy if they will continue to allow Steam to wrap their SDK, or whatever little spats and tantrums they feel like throwing. They already love exclusives ...who knows what else is in store? Would you buy a Dell Monitor (at price equal to it's competitors, no less), if Dell wanted you to buy all your PC software from Dell too to use on that monitor in perpetuity, and threaten to not allow that software to run on any other monitor?
I would like to just sit back and appreciate how completely objective this video it. Usually, I see videos praising one system and trashing the other to get people to validate their own choices, but this provided information on the aspect being discussed while also adding relevant information about the other system and drew a conclusion based on the information provided. You my good sir, are excellent at objective comparisons.
Umm, you didn't really go very deep into what the pros and cons of each actually are, you just sort of mentioned it over and over again that there are reasons to go with both but then never really get into what those things are. Kind of the point of a Vs. video, right?
Two notes. First, MOST SteamVR games work flawlessly with the Touch now--Valve-made content actually shows the Touch model instead of a Vive wand model. Second, given that, I've been playing plenty of experiences where I turn around, and use my hands. So long as you have your cameras wide apart and facing well into each others' view, you can track yourself almost all the time. I OCCASIONALLY lose a hand when facing away, but it's rare. More often I lose a hand when it's near the ground.
I recently Bought Oculus Rift because it is on sale for $400s. I don't think Rift is doing bad, I do believe the sale is being done to make up for lost time since they didn't have touch controls on release. They lost a lot of ground with not having them on release. I do know A lot of people have bought the rift now because of the sale. Let's be honest here, 800 dollars is too much for new tech in my opinion. Now I haven't personally tried Vive but I don't think I will since all my friends just bought the Oculus because of the sale.
No. Those two can run their own channel. I don't really wanna see them end up at LTT. LTT only cares about sponsored advertising and will put two ads on a 4 minute video.
oculus is almost half price, comes with 3 sensors instead of 2, comes with wireless xbox controller, better looking everything, better hand controllers, only 1 cable from pc to headset, built in headphones and microphone, it's made of fabric instead of plastic so you don't get warm, it's half the weight and it has better game support. I really don't see why anyone would buy the Vive after the hand controllers came out for the oculus
1 month later and everything you said is pretty much now false. The Vive's currently $600 and the Rift's $400. Yes, the Vive only comes with 2x sensors cause that's all you need. The Rift comes with 2x sensors as well but a 3rd is highly recommended for room scale. The Touch Controllers are better ergonomically but require batteries. Valve has their "Touch" controllers in the works known as "Knuckles". They too have sensors but theirs track individual finger placement. Both the Vive and Rift have 1x cable that runs from the headset to the PC, as well as a built-in mic and included headphones/earphones. The Rift is no longer lighter than the Vive as they both weigh a little over 1lb (1.036lbs / 16.576 ounces to be exact). "has better game support" where'd you get that from? Both platforms have their "exclusives" but both can be played on either platform with the help of software such as Revive and Steam (Steam supports the Rift). Personally, If I were on a budget, I'd buy a Rift, it's a no-brainer. But, for someone who plans on going mobile/moving their setup around a lot (Taking it to parties, showing it off to friends/family), the Vive's tracking system (2x sensors that only require a single outlet for each) is far less of a hassle than buying USB & HDMI cable extensions for the Rift. Semi-Permanent Setup = Rift (3x Sensors) Less Setup Time = Vive = (2x Sensors) Now, if the Oculus came out with a Rift 1.1 that had "wireless" tracking similar to the Vive's tracking, for the same price ($400). Then, I'd have a very hard time justifying the purchase of a Vive. But you also gotta take future peripherals into account....that's a whole nother topic though.
And you got that information from where? How do you figure people are using the *current* Knuckles? "The Knuckle controllers will work with all existing hardware. Like the original wands, Knuckle controllers are compatible with any revision of the HTC Vive headset and use the same base stations for tracking. If you have your hands on a pair of these new controllers, all you have to do to pair them is run through the normal Pair Controller setup in the Devices menu of SteamVR."
Where'd you see that at? You think that deal will be back next summer? Thinking about picking one of these up but don't think $800 for a rift is worth it. $400 sounds reasonable though
G Reod it was on Amazon during prime day. Still $400 on Newegg but no gift card. As for next summer who knows. By then I imagine the next Gen from oculus and HTC may be out or close to release
I read somewhere that there won't be an oculus 2 or vive 2. I don't know. Wouldn't they have announced during e3? Maybe next year if the rumors you listed are correct? I don't know. How is the oculus? Do you own one?
The Touch controllers meant I can easily do 2hr sessions in the Rift now. They're just that good. Something about having your hands to ground you a bit means I don't get queasy any more. Playing Arizona Sunshine with a buddy is an insane experience.
I've owned DK1 and DK2 and can tell you that we're years away from having high enough resolution screens to make things playable. 4k per eye will probably still suck. I'm not spending another cent on VR for a long time. It super cool, don't get me wrong, but the res makes it sooo fucking horrible.
GaLoS the resolution is much higher on vive and cv1 than dk2. Ad supersampling to that and games are more than playable. I use my vive almost every day and many games look amazing
3:00 I would love to see people try and spend the longest possible time in VR... If someone was to make and upload a video of this, they can expect an immediate subscription :D
will wait for a hack that will allow the use of oculus controllers on the vive..... somebody out there who is smart has probably already figured it out.
Completely different systems. You would need both types of "sensor" for it to work. The Vive is like the Wii. That "sensor bar" the Wii had was just two LEDs. All the sensors were on the controller that looked for the IR lights. Rift is like the PS move. The camera watches you and the controller just has pretty lights on it.
it's not even difficult to do. unreal engine 4 for example just calls them both "motion controllers' and you map them out the same way. Gunna be honest though, the tracking for the oculus controllers is wonky and not comfortable to develop around. I personally want tracking points on more than just the controllers now. I want bands for arms legs and clips for shoes. I could do so much with that....
You should update this video. As the Rift no longer uses base stations and Vive still does. Plus Oculus also has a complete stand alone system no need for a computer and is a 3rd of the price of Vive. I went Rift as I stated 3rd of the price and it looks awesome, did not go with the stand alone as I have a machine that can run the Rift and don't really want or need to walk around in a square, when I can sit comfortably in my chair and play.
Since our Government in the UK is apparently going to soon be snooping on what we're doing online, I've actually gone and downloaded TunnelBear. Thanks LTT!
Hey Luke, nice shirt! Did you get it from BuzzFeed?
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Hey Ethan, nice profile picture! Did you get it from the Default Store.
CrispCarbon No, I had a professional graphic designer do it for $5 on Fiverr.
I was thinking the same thing xD
At least all the delayed Vive games, will finally be release.
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How does glorious Robbaz not have more replies
IDK
Loving the my summer car videos Robbaz. Love your channel too. Thankyou for filling some of my life with joy!
Kinda interesting watching this after 4 years as a Rift S user.
did you have any problems with the rift s? like black screen or tracking issues?
same
I still use the original
I use the original lol
Bit interesting watching this as almost 6 years later a Quest 2 user
Where did you get that BuzzFeed shirt?
Why isn't this top comment?
Not enough memes :(
Not far, 3rd place now.
buzzfeed is dead damn it
I didn't see anything about the HTC Vive. How can you call this a 'versus' comparison when there is no other to be compared?
"final answer" both have been talked about this is the conclusion.
George Shaffer Vive is so much better dumb bitch
Mat The Bat Kek, wrong.
Rift ftw
Proof? Vive has working wireless capabilities, software compatibility with steam vr is better on the vive since Valve and HTC have partnered, touchpads allow for faster and more accurate movement, vive is better out of the box, vive have better tracking area, vive tracking method is more accurate and responsive to rift. And you're goona say that rift is better cause its smaller and has a smoother look? No, don't judge a book by its cover, I rather have a better performing headset then a mediocre one that LOOKS fancy and doesnt have the oomph to back it up.
It's really interesting with this completely new platform of gaming, the standards haven't been set and that's what i love!
For both computer and console gaming we have standards of how you play, controller/mouse + keyboard and also all genres often have very similar ways to play and controls.
Almost all VR games handle differently, some games try Uis, some try having a backpack you grab behind your back, some try teleporting, etc.
It's going to be really interesting to see how the VR platform developes in the future
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Thomas Middleton just another ltt vid
I mean, I don't hold it against them, but when it starts to approach 50/50 (without adblock), it feels a lil cheesy.
Jesus Christ Radical, you didn't have to take him literally. I doubt he meant it is LITERALLY 50/50. Also he said it starts to approach 50/50 not that it IS 50/50. Fact of the matter is the amount of ads, for 5 minutes of content, is ridiculous.
If 70% of the people on the internet didn't use adblock they wouldn't have to do that.
Chris Davis That is bullshit. Do you honestly think Linus wouldn't do it if adblock didn't exist? Seriously? Linus is very corporate he would still do it for more profit don't kid yourself.
It's interesting to see that the Valve Knuckles were talked about in 2016, 3 years before the Index was released.
yeah, i'm glad they took their time with them.
wasn't Oculus Rift the guys who started the whole VR trend in the first place?
Nicosarea yeah
Well vr has has it's time a long time ago but then it was just a screen inside a pair of goggles, so basically no immersive experience. Now that we have more advanced technology you can move and look around, which is what makes vr entertaining. Being able to move around in a virtual world is what has been the goal always and now it's become reality, and it works really well. I would recommend to take a look at Microsoft's project where they merge reality and virtuality into one
Hololens is something awesome! I wonder what reality tech we will get in the next 5-10 years. Its a good time to be alive
Well it's gonna lose popularity if they don't make a crotch accessory for "research purposes"
Yes, and I agree that the Oculus is iconic for that reason, but that shouldn't justify you to but the Rift.
My brother found a Virtual Boy ( VR headset made by Nintendo in the *EARLY 90's* ) and I was able to try it out yesterday. You can't turn your head around, it's pretty hard to explain how it handles, but it was 3d, and this is talking about back in time before even the snes! It's fun to use, but it never caught on and now it's a rare system...Anyways, before I keep rambling, let me tell you that although the Oculus started the trend for VR, it was Nintendo that prepared for it's future, although it was a failure. The Oculus shouldn't be praised higher than the vive for it's history, but instead just enjoyed for advancing VR technology to date.
It might be complete but it still can't compete.
Nobody wants a big heavy cable pulling on the back of their head, also the HTC isn't a comfortable headset. It's Bulky and the images aren't crisp.. the HTC isn't the benchmark headset people should want.
ZeNeo Well it's the best we currently got. Also I've tried the vive and I had no problems with the weight/cord/clarity.
While there's no debate the Vive FOV is pretty much better.. I'd make a bet that the VIVE feels more immersive purely because the screen is a lot brighter. Personally I don't think any VR headset is room scale ready-enough. On the other hand tho even though I think the Rift is the better headset they've got a steep uphill battle to get people to want to use their platform.
yeah to be honest i use vive but i'll probably be doing a lot more rift now that its available for me to use with controller.s its soo much more comfy.
theres already a "wireless" addon for vive developed through that htc funded startup contest thing. its just hard to get right now
I'll be honest. I thought this review was going to be a bunch of biased garbage. Surprisingly not, good review Luke!
Zachary Snyder yeah.. seems like he was sincere this time..
I agree, especially when you see the biased and often misleading/wrong statements by the upvoted comments here. It's refreshing to see a video that doesn't try to paint good/bad guys and further fuel the fanboy war that is starting in VR...
Thermometer80 fanbois come whenever there is 2 or more different products. People don't want to feel like they bought "an inferior device". No, they are just different
I wonder if he is out of Ideas? Maybe there is a # for it.
ProtoMario Hello there.
#NotReallyOutOfIdeas
ProtoMario ayy lmao
ProtoMario You are just in every comment section on youtube aren't you.
yo proto
I just want to have a chance to even try VR.
you bet, try the vive if you ever have the chance, its amazing
Microsoft store has vive demo, lets you try 3 demos for a total of 15-20 minutes
If you have a Best Buy near you, there's a good chance that they're offering Rift demos.
Go to any big electronics store or a LAN party.
Adahop I offer free demos in the NYC metro area for the Vive.
7:27 Geeze guys... look at that floor. Maybe next video you can do a review on a couple of VACUUM cleaners.
pumpuppthevolume is this why you came here....... Just to look at peoples floors
I just bought an HTC Vive and am loving it. Glad to hear Oculus is finally getting some love with the new touch controllers. The more VR adoption rate there is the more VR will become a standard and that means we all win for more VR games and items.
You get it
I’m from the future. It’s a big thing now.
@@Halal_Gaming wouldn't say it's a big thing, but is certainly gaining way more popularity. VR is awesome
I am from present time, VR is huge
I still believe that the ideal of VR should be [ headset = monitor + sensor array, not platform ] and [ controller = keyboard or gamepad, independent from platform ] and I should be able to use an Oculus controller on a Vive or even OSVR.
Why would vive want people to buy oculus's controllers. They would be losing money. I also wish that, but its business
@WoomyBlitz They have been always operational on steam, because STEAM doesn't choose if it has controller support, the game devs do.
"The final answer" THE CHOICE IS YOURS
There isn't an 'final answer' so technically this is clickbait.
BTW I'm a big LTT fan, no hate here.
The Rift was heavily implied as the winner.
@@MemeLair no it wasnt lmao the only thing that was heavily implied was that its a complete matter of opinion based on the positives and negatives of both and tbh the only benefit he stated about the rift to the vive was the controllers which doesnt even matter anymore cuz u can buy valve index controllers for your vive now. Plus vive has better tracking, longer cables, better graphics, fov, etc. and you can buy a wireless adapter for it too!
@@volty313 He said he preferred the ergonomics of the Oculus rift, he prefers the lower weight, the included headphones, the controllers. The price etc. And at the time of the posted video it's clear he prefers the Rift and the index controllers didn't exist.
They're not complete until they come with crotch add ons.
MrAntieMatter someone's seen ready player one
@@thealexguy1486 lol this was commented before that movie came out
@@johnsullivan186 there is a book btw
@@Extremexboxplayer He said "seen" not "read"
yeah and you said that he commented before the movie came out so obviously i would say there was a book because otherwise how would he know since it wasn't out yet...
you guys have to use your head a little cmon...
Real answer: wait 2 years then check back with vr and vr prices
wait until AMD Navi
Don't get your hopes up
"wait two years"
someone told me that two years ago.
***** He probably meant until Vr is finished, not afforable.
Pmanbiotches ~Road to 1K Subs!~ what? what?
It is finished, they are selling them as complete products, are they not?
Who else can't afford VR?
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#LinusVrTips
HTC VIVE MASTER RACE, Oculus is for plebs. Kappa
GET RIFTY BITCH!!!
FUCK YEAH!
***** And now the oculus with the touch controllers costs more than the vive.
lmao According to most reviewer comparisons now, The Rift + Touch is coming out on top. As someone who's been a PC gamer for decades, I'm glad I picked the Rift, Touch is freaking amazing. You're missing out. ;P
***** Id rather wait for the new vive controllers
Watching these old Rift and Vive videos made me realise why this channel stopped following VR properly for a little while. Its because these kinds of videos were always Luke's pet thing, and with him gone doing Floatplane nobody else at LTT was really ever going to step in in the same capacity. It was only with the Valve Index and HL:Alyx that Linus and the rest saw something genuinely interesting coming out of VR and that there was an audience for it and that's why we then got content on things like the Rift S and Quest long overdue.
Please review the PS VR already. Taking way too long to review it...
+AllOutNoobHater our review went up weeks ago
LinusTechTips lol
rekt
Burned
Absolutely fucking destroyed.
Did I just hear steel described as light-weight? Seems kind of fishy to me...
Better than lead I guess?
Lucas Foster True, very true.
The way you spell "steel" is kind of fishy to me...
Non Zamfir Umm... Yeah, just ignore me, I'm an idiot...
better then concrete?
Tbh i Just want a vr for vrchat
I want to find de way with Knuckles.
I want too but with Job Sim also
Same
Get the $25 shitty one
Which headset can play vr chat?
Why "FINAL ANSWER", when VR is still in its infancy?
Well final answer with the options available at the time of release of this video
VR started existing a few years ago, but it did not become so much of a thing until this year
it´s been like for 20 years, but abandoned cause the lack of tech and support...
Chill the fuck out, man. Damn!
Nautricity I've tried all 3 psvr is a huge downgrade.
So.... what's the FINAL ANSWER?
get a psvr its the best headset for the price right now (400 bucks is okay) and it has some real games (Robinson the Journey, Rigs, Resident Evil 7, Driveclub VR, Gran Turismo Sport, BatmanVR, Star Wars Xwing VR, Ace Combat 7, Starblood Arena, Far Point and much more)
Neonal, its the virtual boy ;)
coolertuep I agree, for the affordable buck the PSVR is bang on, obviously at the cost slight lower resolution , I gambled on the psvr but luckily it paid off as I love the thing , don't get me wrong I will eventually upgrade but not for at least 2 years. I'm mega happy with my headset . I'm starting at VHS then will eventually go HD 👍
@Martin Roberts
The screen is very very similar to rift and vive. Rift and vive have 20% higher resolution but uses a Pentile matrix (50% less subpixels) then the PSVR which uses a full RGB matrix.
SO in the end, the image quality is almost the same on all 3
Vive
Why didn’t they make gloves instead, it would be much more immersive to actually grab stuff instead of pushing buttons
AlexStealsMemes I was thinking about that.
Making a fist to grab stuff? I don’t think that’s very immersive
Who said that?
its better this way because you're usually holding something in vr and the controller makes it feel more realistic. With a glove it would be odd. The oculus controllers are near perfect for vr.
wouldn't really feel like you'd be holding a gun and firing though
before i even watch the video, im assuming linus says....."it depends"
Stronk Vodka But then it was Luke who said it
im never buying anything owned by fuckbook. Ill stick to HTC
Misael Cifuentes fuckbook sounds like one of those cheap dating sites who put their ads on pornhub
that's because... it is.
Misael Cifuentes glad i have an htc
Marley holy crap it does exist..
Misael Cifuentes its a really bad deal if you have to buy the controllers separately for $200 (last time i checked) and another camera to move around in your room for $80 more totaling to $880 which is $80 more than the vive. I got the vive $100 off so it makes it an even better deal.
Not only do I have to watch an ad before the video starts, but I also have to watch his own ads IN the video. LOVE it.
They have to invent VR Glovers with many sensores and all that stuff.
juliangst
sweat, no thanks.
What kind of gaming would you be doing, where sweaty hands would be an issue?
No, can't grip things that aren't actually there. Won't work. There is a exoskeleton VR glove that has force feedback, THAT is what you would want if you want hand presence in VR.
EVOLICIOUS "haptic feedback" is what you're looking for there.
Maccaroney I know what haptic feedback is. My vive controllers have haptic feedback, lol. I'm talking about force feedback.
I'm sure all these "facebook sucks vive is better" people here don't own any VR device. No one in their right mind would spend a grand on Vive just because Oculus happens to be owned by Facebook. It's about games, features and comfort, not which company makes it. That said I personally still prefer Vive because of its better tracking and USB compatibility issues Oculus has been having.
Whats with all this VR is dead shit? We are in VR every night and it is awesome? Ya all trippin.
Fred Smith I mean it’s a step forward in technology lmao
Perkurius I think you're right.
I think it's cause the hype is dead, people thought VR was going to be a sudden revolution and were disappointed. I think it'll be a slow burn but eventually as it gets more affordable I think it'll be a new console like industry.
You mean a new accessory?
LEEMT1993 I'm not sure how to describe it. It's an accessory that's also a platform
Oculus is still the worse option when it comes to picking your copororate overlord. Oculus is owned by Facebook while much control with the Vive lies with GabeN himself. I'd go with Vive. My buddies who are starting a VR company are working exclusively with Vive.
Jacksirrom vive is awsome :-)
How much input do you think Gabe Newell himself actually has in *any* part of the Vive? Really...
Ethan really? This says otherwise www.google.se/amp/uploadvr.com/valve-gabe-newell-spending-time-vr-team/amp/?client=safari
what's wrong with facebook?
gaben isn't even good anymore. He used to be pro consumer. You cant let his previous actions overrule everything he is doing now.
I will just wait for the new vive.
T_alsomeGames yup my thoughts exactly
New vive? is it already announced?
Marco ACS There are prototypes.
***** I dont have anywhere near 800 dollars. I can wait because I am forced to. If you feel like you cant wait at all. Then get the oculus, if you want a higher quality version, and can wait, be patient.
I just got a vive last week. Don't wait or you will always be missing out on having one for the "next big thing". I don't regret my purchase at all and am having a great time with friends.
its weird looking at the Index Knuckels early prototypes. we've come a long way.
The HTC Base Station still have the best tracking in the market.
399 summer sale? Just bought the Rift!
summer sale?
Yep.
Dmitri Tousaint Its pretty fun Dmitri. You cant beat the price at all. I mostly use mine for VR sim racing- but the games with the touch controllers are a lot of fun as well. Very fluid movements. Its a step above the Gear VR and Track IR if you've ever used those. I probably wouldn't be too happy if I'd of paid 800 dollars, but for 400 its more than worth it.
ME 2
I just got one, and I love it for Subnautica and Elite: Dangerous. That said, I find the sensors cables are way too short for setting up a play space; I could barely snake them around the confines of my large computer desk. Also, when arranged at my PC in this fashion, the setup would not proceed because the sensors are too close. All in all definitely not a good set up experience, not to mention the technical troubles I've experienced with installing it. (USB devices like webcam and Xbox controller malfunction, PC crashes when I reboot [memory exception errors]) Still, after the things I've played in VR, I won't take it back. Spent another $150.00 on cables and an extra sensor to set up a play space, and hopefully it goes off without a hitch.
4:00 So, that's the first pair of valve knuckles
I greatly enjoyed the vertagear ad, it was hilarious seing colton just do random stuff. As a sidenote, the focus on the "FRONT ^"-sticker did not go unnoticed, shots fired yo :')
To anyone watching now, you can get Touch controllers (with the extra camera) plus Rift for only 400$. As far as I know Vive is still around twice as much.
Now it's $350. I love that Oculus is becoming more accessible to consumers.
Ok.. so what's the final decision ? this just covers the differences.. misleading title.. what's your answer!!!!!?????
kRo0kEdTV the rift won
Rift is overall a better product.
@@kowhaifan1249 No
yes
I personally find the Oculus to be better since it's more reasonably priced than the Vive. Plus, I find it's controllers to be top notch.
I remember seeing the oculus rift when it first came out everything was so amazing and I wanted one badly a few years later and i now own a quest 2, dream come true
me too, got my quest 2 today and it is awesome!
Wait... so now, instead of the Vive where I get to move about freely, sit or stand, and play tons of supported games made by many different developers, I could have an amazing VR experience where I not only HAVE to sit down, can't move about freely much at all, AND just for 20% of the freedom of the Vive, I get to pay for a 3rd sensor? All for a wonderfully locked down, facebook controlled DRM-filled experience? Well sign me up! ... for never buying this thing ever. What a POS.
The HTC Vive has won the "VR war". It's over. Deal with it.
no, you misunderstood that part dude. Also, many have said 2 sensors is all you really need. almost all standing vr games are designed so you don't need to turn around, it all in front of you.
Your totally misunderstood the whole thing.
2 sensors= you can either play standing , but you can't turn around, or play sited and turn around
3 sensors= full range of motion, but with a smaller area than the Vibe (which could be good if you live in a small department, or bad if you actually have the space and want to use it)
4 sensors= exactly the same experience as Vive
cosmic dave, i dont know what games you played, but while playing on my vive im constantly turning around, what are you gonna do when an enemy shows up behind? shoot blindly over your shoulder?
dont think so, take a turn around the corner? oh wait i cant...
the best vr experience is vive handsdown, its amazing how some rift users keep trying to boost the rift :S
no...dumbass... you get the same tracking with the rift with two sensors and the price now is identical. The vive only comes with two sensors as well.
what are you talking about? The rift is room scale capable but a lot of the games are focused on standing. but you can do room scale if u want and a lot of room scale games will support both. but i'll enjoy using the standing experience of rift in my small room and doing vive in the living room. Problem is i have to take my pc in my living room to use vive.
winner is virtual boy
Nope!
you made me watch the whole ad by that looping the footage. congratulations :D
Sometimes I question why I'm subscribed to this channel, then I watch Luke's content and remember why lol
who is watching this while leaning on their left arm?
Natsheh Gaming me
woah
Wizard?
Natsheh Gaming is that for a certain type of pleasure?
Natsheh Gaming magic
WTF is this? Said "Final Answer" in title but actually it's a "Final Review" vid for the Rift. Where's the VS part?
So could someone just program the Rift controllers to work with the Vive?
ThierryTheuns i would like to see someone do that. Only thing i dont like about the rift controller is that it uses AA batteries. Why cant they be rechargeable
TheDuckLord22 Probably, in a few months, they'll release a rechargeable battery pack, just like Microsoft does for their XBOX controllers.
ThierryTheuns i would if i had a set of Rift controllers and a Vive. Sadly i have neither of those things and i don't plan on buying a vr headset anytime soon
Sebastián Mestre Too bad. The devices are way too expensive right now. I'm waiting for the next generation so prices will go down.
AA batteries can be rechargeable. They're also better than having an integral battery - you can swap the batteries out for freshly charged ones in a few seconds, thanks to the fantastic magnetic battery compartment cover. If the battery was internal and your Touch controllers ran flat, you'd have to wait for them to recharge. I far prefer having removable batteries.
So which ones better?
Ah the good old days of tunnel bear sponsoring LTT videos. The good old times
I miss those days
Looks of PSVR, Controller of Oculus, Display of Vive, Price of Cardboard = Best Impossible VR
Yea I will probably get a pack of 48 batteries when I get the rift.
VR is some really exciting shit, man. I feel like a kid again when using it and even just talking about it. I love how there is this little console war between the Rift and the Vive, it brings me back to old the days of Sega vs Nintendo. Today, the PS4 and the Xbox One just feel too damn similar, you could hardly even call it a console war.
Getting my Vive on christmas. Super excited.
Haha you knew you were getting a vive 12 months before christmas, and it'll most likely be obsolete by hen
Yeah dude you wasted money lmao
I can't wait for Huawei/chinese company to produce dirt cheap VR headset/gadget.
For now, I'm not interested in either both
Google VR. Probably similar experience...
chronousnemesis man its gotta be sad to be that poor lmfao . Feel sorry for people who cant afford a few hundred dollars
My main reason for going for Rift was one simple reason.
You can play any game on both the Oculus store AND the steam store (including many games that say they are Vive Only such as accounting etc)
I like Rift better than Whiterun.
you're wrong, dawngard is the real experience.
Uh, i prefer to have my arrows taken to the knee in Riften good sirs...
I prefer the Reach, but that's a pretty rare preference. You might even say niche!
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
Some call it junk... Me? I call it treasure
I'm here because Oculus just dropped their package to £399
jepemil 200
#RektVive
For some reason it's 445 euro in the Netherlands...
£398 dumbfuck
@@a-surfin-bird8182 397 PUNK ASS
Vive w/ 360 tracking - $800
Oculus w/ 360 tracking - $880
Oculus w/ good tracking - $960
What about now that oculus is 399 with touch controllers?
and vive for 599
Oculus is the better choice now
Gabe12822 its 350 now with touch controllers
Vibe is still 599 oculus is 350 with touch controllers and sensors
7:47 I would never sit in a chair made by Abstergo ;)
Some things that were not pointed out in the video: It's still cheaper and more efficient to get room scale with the VIVE. Oculus + the touch controllers are $800 + $80 if you want to move around more but still less than the VIVE. The VIVE has also been out for much longer meaning it has more games and it's cheaper to buy since you can find them used. Another aspect not mentioned is that the cameras for the Oculus need to be plugged into your computer. This means that if you want to plug in more cameras, there will be more wires going across your room and more ports on your PC used up. The tracking can also be wonky since the cameras are typically placed at waist height on tables. This means that you cannot go prone or you will lose tracking from the cameras. The Oculus's controllers are still impressive but if you want the same room scale experience as the VIVE, you may be disappointed.
hit me up when full dive VR becomes a thing like in SAO! Then im in!
you die in the game you die in real life
Yes
Unfortunately that will never happen
:(
Why doesn't anyone bring up in these reviews that you have to ally with Innovative Online Industries (Facebook), and they will own all your games and your soul in their little walled garden of shifty ethics, if you buy the Rift and games on Oculus Home? What happens when nVidia or AMD produces the next great VR HMD? Nothing if you own a Vive, as HTC isn't your life partner, and you can just jump ship. But if you own a Rift, well, you're at their mercy if they will continue to allow Steam to wrap their SDK, or whatever little spats and tantrums they feel like throwing. They already love exclusives ...who knows what else is in store? Would you buy a Dell Monitor (at price equal to it's competitors, no less), if Dell wanted you to buy all your PC software from Dell too to use on that monitor in perpetuity, and threaten to not allow that software to run on any other monitor?
I would like to just sit back and appreciate how completely objective this video it. Usually, I see videos praising one system and trashing the other to get people to validate their own choices, but this provided information on the aspect being discussed while also adding relevant information about the other system and drew a conclusion based on the information provided. You my good sir, are excellent at objective comparisons.
and now for the summer the rift plus controllers are 399. so is this a OMFG STFU AND JUST BUY ?
Koffee yup
Umm, you didn't really go very deep into what the pros and cons of each actually are, you just sort of mentioned it over and over again that there are reasons to go with both but then never really get into what those things are. Kind of the point of a Vs. video, right?
No one:
Luke: final answer
Also Luke: the choice is yours
Please can you tell us distances in meters additionally to feet? Thanks!
Baptiste DL just search meters to feet
Baptiste DL Divide by 3 dude... It isn't that hard.
This looks so dumb compared to oculus vs htc vive now
Two notes. First, MOST SteamVR games work flawlessly with the Touch now--Valve-made content actually shows the Touch model instead of a Vive wand model. Second, given that, I've been playing plenty of experiences where I turn around, and use my hands. So long as you have your cameras wide apart and facing well into each others' view, you can track yourself almost all the time. I OCCASIONALLY lose a hand when facing away, but it's rare. More often I lose a hand when it's near the ground.
I'm still team Vive as it seems more... all in one, you still have to buy the touch controllers, the sensors and the headset separate for the Oculus.
I recently Bought Oculus Rift because it is on sale for $400s. I don't think Rift is doing bad, I do believe the sale is being done to make up for lost time since they didn't have touch controls on release. They lost a lot of ground with not having them on release. I do know A lot of people have bought the rift now because of the sale. Let's be honest here, 800 dollars is too much for new tech in my opinion. Now I haven't personally tried Vive but I don't think I will since all my friends just bought the Oculus because of the sale.
Silver Shot you should have waited 4 months and you could got it for 350 with touch controllers and sensors
People pay 800+ for the newest iphone pretty much every year, it's where your priorities sit.
I'm getting oculus rift+touch controls+ 3sensors+ 1hdmi cable+1 Xbox controller for 479.99$😂
And here in Australia it's $680... Almost should just go with the Vive, only $200 more!
why do I get the feeling after "ready player one" comes out, vr will go nuts
KAI AND LOK ARE JOBLESS pls hear this, lmg team
I am slightly concerned that I know both who they are, and that they left their jobs. I might be spending too much time on youtube.
No. Those two can run their own channel. I don't really wanna see them end up at LTT. LTT only cares about sponsored advertising and will put two ads on a 4 minute video.
digitalrevtips ;) Imagine linus with english accent
oculus is almost half price, comes with 3 sensors instead of 2, comes with wireless xbox controller, better looking everything, better hand controllers, only 1 cable from pc to headset, built in headphones and microphone, it's made of fabric instead of plastic so you don't get warm, it's half the weight and it has better game support.
I really don't see why anyone would buy the Vive after the hand controllers came out for the oculus
1 month later and everything you said is pretty much now false. The Vive's currently $600 and the Rift's $400. Yes, the Vive only comes with 2x sensors cause that's all you need. The Rift comes with 2x sensors as well but a 3rd is highly recommended for room scale. The Touch Controllers are better ergonomically but require batteries. Valve has their "Touch" controllers in the works known as "Knuckles". They too have sensors but theirs track individual finger placement. Both the Vive and Rift have 1x cable that runs from the headset to the PC, as well as a built-in mic and included headphones/earphones. The Rift is no longer lighter than the Vive as they both weigh a little over 1lb (1.036lbs / 16.576 ounces to be exact). "has better game support" where'd you get that from? Both platforms have their "exclusives" but both can be played on either platform with the help of software such as Revive and Steam (Steam supports the Rift). Personally, If I were on a budget, I'd buy a Rift, it's a no-brainer. But, for someone who plans on going mobile/moving their setup around a lot (Taking it to parties, showing it off to friends/family), the Vive's tracking system (2x sensors that only require a single outlet for each) is far less of a hassle than buying USB & HDMI cable extensions for the Rift.
Semi-Permanent Setup = Rift (3x Sensors)
Less Setup Time = Vive = (2x Sensors)
Now, if the Oculus came out with a Rift 1.1 that had "wireless" tracking similar to the Vive's tracking, for the same price ($400). Then, I'd have a very hard time justifying the purchase of a Vive. But you also gotta take future peripherals into account....that's a whole nother topic though.
And you got that information from where? How do you figure people are using the *current* Knuckles?
"The Knuckle controllers will work with all existing hardware. Like the original wands, Knuckle controllers are compatible with any revision of the HTC Vive headset and use the same base stations for tracking. If you have your hands on a pair of these new controllers, all you have to do to pair them is run through the normal Pair Controller setup in the Devices menu of SteamVR."
DJHeroMasta chill
>Facebook
I've had a Rift for a year now. Just ordered the touch controllers to complete the experience :)
I want VR gloves
Criminals vr gloves are coming. There are even prototypes that makes u feel the object u are holding in vr in real life :-)
That'll probably be something for Gen 2 VR.
Criminals yea Imagine if they release man hunt 3 vr. where you actually use your hands to violently kill some one. Rockstar do this
The rift is a $400 with a $100 gift card. Insane
Where'd you see that at? You think that deal will be back next summer? Thinking about picking one of these up but don't think $800 for a rift is worth it. $400 sounds reasonable though
G Reod it was on Amazon during prime day. Still $400 on Newegg but no gift card.
As for next summer who knows. By then I imagine the next Gen from oculus and HTC may be out or close to release
I read somewhere that there won't be an oculus 2 or vive 2. I don't know. Wouldn't they have announced during e3? Maybe next year if the rumors you listed are correct? I don't know. How is the oculus? Do you own one?
finally luke things you been waiting for have come. the controllers and that cooking things.
vr is the future..
Erwin Estrada-jr VR is the past. It’s only improved. Improved VR is the future.
KingGeorgeGopro Incorrect.
@@mrcodyjmiller rethink your comment. What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
so its basically Wii nunchucks?
Walternate but... but... these are better.... we promise*
*oculus and htc
Said the peasant who cant afford a gaming PC and HMD. Fuck off.
The Touch controllers meant I can easily do 2hr sessions in the Rift now. They're just that good. Something about having your hands to ground you a bit means I don't get queasy any more. Playing Arizona Sunshine with a buddy is an insane experience.
Just picked one up on Prime Day for $400 US and a $100 gift card!
I REALLY FUCKIN WANT VR!!!
Rhode u shuld get the vive. Its amazing :-)
Christer Sjöberg i dont have a vr computer
aha ok. well i hope u get it some day :-)
I've owned DK1 and DK2 and can tell you that we're years away from having high enough resolution screens to make things playable. 4k per eye will probably still suck. I'm not spending another cent on VR for a long time. It super cool, don't get me wrong, but the res makes it sooo fucking horrible.
GaLoS the resolution is much higher on vive and cv1 than dk2. Ad supersampling to that and games are more than playable. I use my vive almost every day and many games look amazing
3:00 I would love to see people try and spend the longest possible time in VR...
If someone was to make and upload a video of this, they can expect an immediate subscription :D
Guys...... I saw RGB on the Valve version...... Shit.... Hold on to your wallets people Gaben is out for you........
we need vr gloves!
Who misses Luke's reviews?
Google cardboard wins
will wait for a hack that will allow the use of oculus controllers on the vive..... somebody out there who is smart has probably already figured it out.
Completely different systems. You would need both types of "sensor" for it to work. The Vive is like the Wii. That "sensor bar" the Wii had was just two LEDs. All the sensors were on the controller that looked for the IR lights. Rift is like the PS move. The camera watches you and the controller just has pretty lights on it.
yeah you're right.
Revive does it, used it yesterday works very well.
Sorry I read your comment the wrong way. The Oculus tocuh is already compatible with steam VR and most steam VR games.
it's not even difficult to do. unreal engine 4 for example just calls them both "motion controllers' and you map them out the same way. Gunna be honest though, the tracking for the oculus controllers is wonky and not comfortable to develop around. I personally want tracking points on more than just the controllers now. I want bands for arms legs and clips for shoes. I could do so much with that....
You should update this video. As the Rift no longer uses base stations and Vive still does. Plus Oculus also has a complete stand alone system no need for a computer and is a 3rd of the price of Vive. I went Rift as I stated 3rd of the price and it looks awesome, did not go with the stand alone as I have a machine that can run the Rift and don't really want or need to walk around in a square, when I can sit comfortably in my chair and play.
Vive is still the superior platform IMO. $200 for the Touch controllers is a fucking ripoff; should have cost half that to remain competitive.
why? the controllers are just as good if not better.
Mm i dont have enough money 🥴 i gonna play in the wii lmao
BramPlayz noice
Since our Government in the UK is apparently going to soon be snooping on what we're doing online, I've actually gone and downloaded TunnelBear. Thanks LTT!
so, for the rift with controllers and 4 sensors thats $920. and its a smaller area than vive. i guess laser tech is better than cameras :P
you don't need 4 sensors. I'm perfectly fine with two.
you need 3 to match the Vive's experience but in a shorter box.
Honestly still think Vive is the better investment.
+ batteries for the controllers ;)