I purchased Dirac yesterday and have run it on my Mac setup for producing trance music. It's done an incredible job. My left monitor is in a corner, and has very boomy mid bass compared to the right speaker which sits along the middle of a wall but not in a corner. My stereo image is super-sharp now, and the response is far smoother without the boomy and muddy bass and lower midrange. Very happy. Hopefully it helps with my mix downs, where I had issues with bass! I even used the custom shelves in the filter design screen to extend the bass of my small Genelec monitors from 40Hz down to about 30Hz which saves me having to buy bigger monitors and/or a sub.
sorry for the lack of knowledge of DLBC for PC or MAC. This is a program that is being used by a friend of mine in his HT room in a HTPC with Jriver, and I'm trying to understand the functionality of this software. I wanted to ask you if it is possible to read an audio signal coming from a SACD Bluray player through an HDMI port of an internal or external electronic device to the PC, to then apply the DLBC filters and send the audio signal back to an AVR to listen to music in the system HT file. If it were possible, I need to know which device I should buy to connect it to the PC. Thanks in advance for your answers. Thank you very much. Miki
Dirac Live is used to even out the acoustic frequency response of your speaker monitors. It's EQ for live audio coming out of your system. I'm not sure what you're talking about is related to what this does.
@@SPLMixing gonna test it, guess Trinnov is even better but it cost a lot more. I use Sound Id now and it is ok but not great. I saw some use dirac in a mini dsp.
They need to be more precisely where to measure the points around the center. The way Sonarworks does it is way better and doesn't let you stand in the dark with the measurements. I get a huge difference in stereo image if I make the points 10cm more apart from each other. As a Non Audio Engineer I have no clue what sounds right and what doesn't
It should not make any difference, as the measurements are determined based on timing differences caused by the different mic positions in relation to the speakers. Something else must be at play here with your setup. Sonarworks is good if you like fast food, but IMO and experience, Dirac does things more accurately. The sine sweep method is far superior to the blips used by sonarworks, for example.
It makes a huge difference if the other points are 40 or 60cm away from the center. If you are closer to the center the stereo image gets smaller, but if you go further away from it, the image expands. What would you say is a good distance from the center to one of the measure points on the outside?
If your speakers are relatively close to you, like mine, then I can see how that would be the case. I usually just account for head movement, so for me that's probably closer to 20cm from the centre point. If you need it wider, try using the couch setting. Maybe if it affects the stereo image that much, adjust to square until you get what you expect. It took me running Dirac on everything for that to be the new normal. Once you know how commercial tracks sound and old mixes, you can make any necessary adjustments to the way you listen/process.
My Speakers are 1,5m apart from the Center. I did a lot of measurements. With 40cm from the center to each point I loose a lot of perception of reverb rooms and the stereo image gets really small. If I go 80cm from the Center, the stereo image and the reverb rooms keep the same, but I loose a lot of bass and also the mono mid is nearly gone, everything sounds kinda same loud.
If you turn it on and off, there shouldn't be a drastic difference in stereo field. If you're on Mac, make sure you have an updated version. A friend of mine tried it out and discovered Dirac had a bug that flipped the polarity of one channel. He was on Mac. If on PC, contact Dirac on Facebook and explain your situation. I made a mistake once where I assigned a measurement to an incorrect position and it through the calibration out. I think if you choose studio in profile, try to keep the box tight, otherwise, really hard to figure out from my end Dirac should be able to assist you.
I did, yes. Not as pretty in the GUI, but where sound quality matters, it's definitely a step above Sonorworks. They all do much the same thing to your monitors with eq correction, but the time correction in Dirac is worth trying out for yourself to hear the difference. It's probably the first room correction software I've felt like I can trust 100%. You should try it out for yourself and see what you think. Links in the description below. Let me know how you go?
Hiii.. Recently I purchase the Audiocontrol Maestro X7 processor and IOTA 7 channel power amplifier.Can you explain me How to operate the Dirac Live calibration in my Audiocontrol processor.
Hey man, can this also be used as a global correction ? So computer wide. So its not only usable in the DAW as a plugin, but also outside, for generali listening purposes on the computer.
Not at this stage, but I believe they're working on a system wide version. A workaround on PC is to virtually route audio through a VST plugin of Dirac. DDMF make something that can do this, but I forget the name of it.
Is there any demo version or trial before we have to buy full version? And also can we use it as standalone app for example for listening to music on spotify something like Sonarworks systemwide allows us to? Thanks!
this comment is under different video 😁 I meant trial period for Dirac Live and whether it can be used as standalone output for listening music on spotify or youtube and not just as vst plugin in your DAW
Is there any way to export the correction filters in a neutral format that I can then import into a standard DSP, or can I only put the correction filters directly onto a target which the dirac live software has found?
No idea. Dirac likely supports more filters than most standard DSP systems and also applies the time domain corrections. If you just want filters, maybe try REW. I use APO on windows to apply those corrections for just normal application playback.
@@SPLMixing I just did some reading and it seems that you can only export Dirac filters to designated end-points of their choosing, so I don't think I'll be able to use APO or import the filters into my volumio... FWIW filters can be simple PEQ filters, but also FIR and IIR which can include time domain/phase corrections. I will see how far I get with REW and rePhase
You can simply rip the impulse response and then feed a convolution processor with it as it’s nothing more than a LTI system. Same process as with sampling and recreating a reverb for example. I think APO has a convolution filter.
I purchased Dirac yesterday and have run it on my Mac setup for producing trance music. It's done an incredible job. My left monitor is in a corner, and has very boomy mid bass compared to the right speaker which sits along the middle of a wall but not in a corner. My stereo image is super-sharp now, and the response is far smoother without the boomy and muddy bass and lower midrange. Very happy. Hopefully it helps with my mix downs, where I had issues with bass! I even used the custom shelves in the filter design screen to extend the bass of my small Genelec monitors from 40Hz down to about 30Hz which saves me having to buy bigger monitors and/or a sub.
That's awesome! 🙂 You will get even better results if you first follow my monitor setup video, then you can really maximise the space further.
sorry for the lack of knowledge of DLBC for PC or MAC. This is a program that is being used by a friend of mine in his HT room in a HTPC with Jriver, and I'm trying to understand the functionality of this software. I wanted to ask you if it is possible to read an audio signal coming from a SACD Bluray player through an HDMI port of an internal or external electronic device to the PC, to then apply the DLBC filters and send the audio signal back to an AVR to listen to music in the system HT file. If it were possible, I need to know which device I should buy to connect it to the PC. Thanks in advance for your answers. Thank you very much. Miki
Dirac Live is used to even out the acoustic frequency response of your speaker monitors. It's EQ for live audio coming out of your system. I'm not sure what you're talking about is related to what this does.
Thanks for your info on Dirac live. I just got the NAD T778 and I was blown away how much difference it made to my system.
I gotta give this one a try, I currently use sonarworks, but being able to also correct timing issues and phase.
Interested in your thoughts on Dirac Live. Links in the description!
Does this version of the software work the same if you a sub integrated into your system?
I use it with a 2.1 system with the sub feeding the mains. Works very well.
Hi! Is Dirac the nerrest to Trinnov ST2Pro hardware maybe?.
Yes, similar concept, but in a software plugin and a fraction of the price
@@SPLMixing gonna test it, guess Trinnov is even better but it cost a lot more. I use Sound Id now and it is ok but not great. I saw some use dirac in a mini dsp.
Great vid. Will definitely look into this. Using ARC by IK.. Not too happy about it. You have any idea how much latency the plugin introduces?
Not sure. I'm away at the moment, but I suspect it's acceptable for mixing. Tracking might be a bit much.
I think Dirac introduces about 8ms latency.
very interested in this!
How about latency when use the Dirac Plugin while tracking?
Yes, there is some latency, likely too much for tracking, but that's not what it's really designed for. It really shines during mixing.
would you mind to share your target curves for NS10 and Auratones ?
Sure, email daniel@splmixing.com. basically, I made them from looking at the measured response of the original frequency response graphs
They need to be more precisely where to measure the points around the center. The way Sonarworks does it is way better and doesn't let you stand in the dark with the measurements. I get a huge difference in stereo image if I make the points 10cm more apart from each other. As a Non Audio Engineer I have no clue what sounds right and what doesn't
It should not make any difference, as the measurements are determined based on timing differences caused by the different mic positions in relation to the speakers. Something else must be at play here with your setup. Sonarworks is good if you like fast food, but IMO and experience, Dirac does things more accurately. The sine sweep method is far superior to the blips used by sonarworks, for example.
It makes a huge difference if the other points are 40 or 60cm away from the center. If you are closer to the center the stereo image gets smaller, but if you go further away from it, the image expands. What would you say is a good distance from the center to one of the measure points on the outside?
If your speakers are relatively close to you, like mine, then I can see how that would be the case. I usually just account for head movement, so for me that's probably closer to 20cm from the centre point. If you need it wider, try using the couch setting. Maybe if it affects the stereo image that much, adjust to square until you get what you expect. It took me running Dirac on everything for that to be the new normal. Once you know how commercial tracks sound and old mixes, you can make any necessary adjustments to the way you listen/process.
My Speakers are 1,5m apart from the Center. I did a lot of measurements. With 40cm from the center to each point I loose a lot of perception of reverb rooms and the stereo image gets really small. If I go 80cm from the Center, the stereo image and the reverb rooms keep the same, but I loose a lot of bass and also the mono mid is nearly gone, everything sounds kinda same loud.
If you turn it on and off, there shouldn't be a drastic difference in stereo field. If you're on Mac, make sure you have an updated version. A friend of mine tried it out and discovered Dirac had a bug that flipped the polarity of one channel. He was on Mac. If on PC, contact Dirac on Facebook and explain your situation. I made a mistake once where I assigned a measurement to an incorrect position and it through the calibration out. I think if you choose studio in profile, try to keep the box tight, otherwise, really hard to figure out from my end Dirac should be able to assist you.
Did you find it better than Sonarworks?
I did, yes. Not as pretty in the GUI, but where sound quality matters, it's definitely a step above Sonorworks. They all do much the same thing to your monitors with eq correction, but the time correction in Dirac is worth trying out for yourself to hear the difference. It's probably the first room correction software I've felt like I can trust 100%. You should try it out for yourself and see what you think. Links in the description below. Let me know how you go?
@@SPLMixing Also, if I'm not mistaken Dirac corrects phase issues too but I might be wrong.
Yes, I believe that is the case for most correction software
Hiii..
Recently I purchase the Audiocontrol Maestro X7 processor and IOTA 7 channel power amplifier.Can you explain me How to operate the Dirac Live calibration in my Audiocontrol processor.
I'm not familiar with that amp. Have you read the manual or contacted Dirac on Facebook messenger?
@@SPLMixing okk let me check
Hey man, can this also be used as a global correction ? So computer wide. So its not only usable in the DAW as a plugin, but also outside, for generali listening purposes on the computer.
Not at this stage, but I believe they're working on a system wide version. A workaround on PC is to virtually route audio through a VST plugin of Dirac. DDMF make something that can do this, but I forget the name of it.
If you want global correction, get a hardware processor with Dirac from miniDSP.
According to their website it should be possible now.
Is there any demo version or trial before we have to buy full version?
And also can we use it as standalone app for example for listening to music on spotify something like Sonarworks systemwide allows us to?
Thanks!
Yes, you should be able to demo it for 30 days. Links in the description.
No standalone as yet, but I believe that they are working on one currently.
this comment is under different video 😁
I meant trial period for Dirac Live and whether it can be used as standalone output for listening music on spotify or youtube and not just as vst plugin in your DAW
Sorry about the mix-up between videos, I just woke up! Lol See above comment.
@@SPLMixing it's okay, thanks for the reply and the video!
If you want standalone, get a hardware processor with Dirac from miniDSP.
hello
can I use this with only 1 speaker?
Yes, I seem to remember a Mono calibration option
Is there any way to export the correction filters in a neutral format that I can then import into a standard DSP, or can I only put the correction filters directly onto a target which the dirac live software has found?
No idea. Dirac likely supports more filters than most standard DSP systems and also applies the time domain corrections. If you just want filters, maybe try REW. I use APO on windows to apply those corrections for just normal application playback.
@@SPLMixing I just did some reading and it seems that you can only export Dirac filters to designated end-points of their choosing, so I don't think I'll be able to use APO or import the filters into my volumio... FWIW filters can be simple PEQ filters, but also FIR and IIR which can include time domain/phase corrections.
I will see how far I get with REW and rePhase
You can simply rip the impulse response and then feed a convolution processor with it as it’s nothing more than a LTI system. Same process as with sampling and recreating a reverb for example.
I think APO has a convolution filter.
It does the same as Sonarworks but for 3 times the money.
And 3 times better too
Measurable or just a feeling?@@SPLMixing
I couldn't get the Free Trial to work. No evidence yet there is a free trial. Nevermind.
Please let Dirac know on Facebook, they're very helpful