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  • Опубліковано 3 кві 2024
  • A seminar titled Periyar and Carnatic Sangeet: The Politics of Music was held in Chennai on 30-03-2024 in the midst of agitation by casteists against the announcement of Sangeetha Kalanidhi Award by Chennai Music Academy to TM Krishna. Explanations were given at the end of the seminar for the questions raised.
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  • @Tamilselvan-pc6zi
    @Tamilselvan-pc6zi 3 місяці тому +8

    செம... தோழர்களே! இதுதான் இன்றைய தேவை! வாழ்த்துக்கள்

  • @rajaaramachandran2310
    @rajaaramachandran2310 3 місяці тому +2

    மிகவும் அருமையான விழிப்புணர்வு காணொளி..... இன்றைய தேவை இதுபோல் காணொளி....மிகவும் அவசியமானது.....இந்த வீடியோவை அனைவருக்கும் பகிருவோம்...
    அனைத்து மட்டங்களிலும் அவாக்களின் தந்திரங்களை அனைவருக்கும் தெரியப் படுத்துவோம்.... அனைவருக்கும் புரியும் போது
    அவாக்கலின் சிந்தனை எவ்வளவு கீழ்தரமானது என்பதை கருத்தில் கொண்டு விழிப்புணர்வு பெற்று சமுதாயத்தில் அவாக்களை எங்கு வைக்க வேண்டும் என்பதை மக்களே உணர்வார்கள்.....

  • @sivamathen2492
    @sivamathen2492 3 місяці тому +6

    தியாகராஜ பாகவதர் சீர்காழி கோவிந்தராஜன் எல்லாம் பாப்பணர் இல்லை.

    • @user-fu1lo8rs3t
      @user-fu1lo8rs3t 2 місяці тому +1

      அவர்கள் உழைப்பு .
      அவர்கள் டாஸ்மாக் குடிமகன்கள் அல்ல

  • @g.selvarajan7736
    @g.selvarajan7736 3 місяці тому +2

    வாழ்த்துக்கள் தோழர் அ௫மை நல்ல ௨ரை❤❤

  • @sarsonsar0
    @sarsonsar0 3 місяці тому +4

    Why DK or DMK not registering any defamation case against Ranjani, Gayatri and such paapan vaikara etc??

  • @raji6803
    @raji6803 3 місяці тому +1

    Nandri tholar

  • @harihara1151
    @harihara1151 2 місяці тому +1

    Mr expert in Ilayarajas music there is ethos, raga, rhythm, porul feelings it is complete music in its innovative glory. This genius himself says his music is a vinyasa of sounds no feelings no emotions just circus of shabgdaas. Feelings will come for people with fine feeling not machines

  • @JASHWIN_TAMIL_GAMING_JTG
    @JASHWIN_TAMIL_GAMING_JTG 3 місяці тому +4

    No one discussing about Pa Ranjith’s margazhin makkal isai which is the counter culture. These people just talk ill about ilayaraja and get claps. Ilaiyaraja mastered and did whatever he wanted to do with Carnatic music. These group always praises Brahmin militancy and puts down daliths conveniently.

    • @aryann4570
      @aryann4570 2 місяці тому

      they talked about "makkal isai" when they spoke earlier. check their speech and comment.

    • @JASHWIN_TAMIL_GAMING_JTG
      @JASHWIN_TAMIL_GAMING_JTG 2 місяці тому +1

      @@aryann4570 You have an understanding issue …I heard full they never mentioned about Pa Ranjith’s margazhin makkal isai. At first place you seem to be unaware and less knowledge on makkal isai.

    • @aryann4570
      @aryann4570 2 місяці тому

      thats the prb. here they discuss abt why/how karnatic music were stolen from common people and how they secluded it. music shd be common for all. here you are saying "makkal isai" why no one talks abt it? so common people shdnt learn karnatic? your comment indirectly means leave the karnatic music, have what you have. and i dont see where they have praised brhmins in this. if you have place let me know the time stamp.

    • @JASHWIN_TAMIL_GAMING_JTG
      @JASHWIN_TAMIL_GAMING_JTG 2 місяці тому +1

      @@aryann4570 Read properly I said Brahmin militancy and that’s what TM Krishna doing. But these groups always let down likes of Ilayaraja & Pa Ranjith when they counter so called Brahmin arts. Ilayaraja used Carnatic music wisely and democratised it and Pa Ranjith bringing our folklore like parai, oppari, tribal music to forefront conducting festivals that too in Music academy. These group never talk or praises that but when a Brahmin raises his voice they give unprecedented support.Hypocrites of highest order.

  • @krishnakumaraiyakannu3262
    @krishnakumaraiyakannu3262 3 місяці тому +1

    அண்ணாமலை பல்கலைக்கழகத்தில் இசைப்பள்ளியில் இருந்தவர் திருப்பாம்பரம் சாமிநாதப்பிள்ளை. சண்முகசுந்தரம் அல்ல. இந்த தகவலை திருத்திக்கொள்ளுமாறு. கேட்டுக்கொள்கிறேன்.

  • @Joseph-yu4lx
    @Joseph-yu4lx 3 місяці тому

    Theni Pannaikadu Christian groups gave help and made them survive. They encouraged pavalar Balasundaram and his music functions. Cannot be forgotten.

  • @22surima
    @22surima Місяць тому

    தோழர் இளையராஜாவின் நிலா காயுது பாட்டுல "க்குங் க்குங் ச்சச்ச்ச ஆ..ஆ...ஆ.. ச்சீ" ?

  • @nizamiqbal3508
    @nizamiqbal3508 3 місяці тому

    இரண்டாவதாகக் கருத்துரைத்த தோழர்
    மிகச் சிறப்பாகப் பேசினார்!
    ❤❤❤

    • @user-fu1lo8rs3t
      @user-fu1lo8rs3t 2 місяці тому

      அவன் நூல் பீ தி ன்னி

  • @Cacofonixravi
    @Cacofonixravi 3 місяці тому +5

    Revolution has to come from people, people are too lazy to commit for a cause and sacrifice.

  • @easwarankrishnan4664
    @easwarankrishnan4664 2 місяці тому

    Regarding state of Brahmins in Tamil Nadu indeed is bad.. basic respect for any citizen is not offered to the section of society The speakers are talking of events of past . Now it’s laughable that 3% of population are causing such angst…it’s improper to,continue this argument whilst the Dravidian parties have totally made the “parpanars”life impossible and drive them out.

  • @rayarilan6933
    @rayarilan6933 3 місяці тому +3

    உங்களுக்கு தெரியாதா
    அவருக்கு இசையை கற்றுக் கொடுத்ததே
    சிறு வயதில்
    அவர் வீட்டருகே இருந்த அவாதான்

    • @anandasatya483
      @anandasatya483 3 місяці тому

      என்ன பெரிய பொய்..
      இதைக் கேட்டால் இளையராஜா.....!!!!!!! ????..

    • @shivrajshivraj8606
      @shivrajshivraj8606 3 місяці тому

      Appo avalukku than ellam theriyum illaiya?
      Anthal aval ungala mathiri fanatics illai

  • @ganeshsadasivam5672
    @ganeshsadasivam5672 3 місяці тому

    Discussion on these subjects must be banned for ever. Let us ignore all differences among ourselves and enjoy MUSIC just like that🙏👍

    • @ranjanikotera5382
      @ranjanikotera5382 2 місяці тому

      Very convenient way to circumvent an inconvenient topic. Very clever indeed.

  • @ravichandran01
    @ravichandran01 3 місяці тому +1

    திமுகவழக்குபதிந்தால்திமுகவைபார்ப்னர்களைமக்களிடம்பார்ப்பனர்வெறுப்பாளர்களாகபரப்புவார்கள்

  • @ramalingamshanmugam8749
    @ramalingamshanmugam8749 2 місяці тому

    நம்புதிரி யார்

    • @user-fu1lo8rs3t
      @user-fu1lo8rs3t 2 місяці тому

      சின்ன மேளம் யார்

  • @alagualagu7469
    @alagualagu7469 3 місяці тому

    நம்ம மக்களே ெசாள்கிறாா்கள் காப்பான் வாயில் விழாது. என்றூ

  • @christophergnanaoli1369
    @christophergnanaoli1369 Місяць тому

    காமராஜர் காலத்திலிருந்து தற்போது வரை தமிழ்நாடு கிரிக்கெட் சங்கத்தில் பார்ப்பனர்களின் ஆதிக்கம் தான், இதை யாராலும் ஆட்ட முடியவில்லை அசக்க முடியவில்லை அது ஏன்?

  • @kasturiswami784
    @kasturiswami784 3 місяці тому

    Pure jealousy!

  • @srinivasanr9811
    @srinivasanr9811 3 місяці тому

    There are number of issues where Ambedkars view is completely different from EVRs and views. Conveniently they ignore. Double standard

  • @yegnag4
    @yegnag4 3 місяці тому +6

    Had Ilayaraja perhaps insulted Thiyagaraja swamy and other stalwarts of Carnatic music and his guru’s, people would have thrown out him Because Ilayaraaja didn’t compliment and commend Periyar’s work on lord Rama, Ilayaraja is seen as a steward of Music - wherein the other person for cheap fame, he praised EVR who had insulted Lord Rama by garlanding him chappals and slaughtered the sentiments of Hindus, being a disciple of Thigaraja swamy who worshipped lord Rama till his last breath - it’s an insult in him if the other person praises EVR - it’s a complete disrespect to the music lineage hence people are boycotting - it’s our prime right - no one can tell anyone to respect someone - if EVR can insult Lord Rama, anyone can insult EVR toooooooo- why are you guys getting angry ?????

    • @shivrajshivraj8606
      @shivrajshivraj8606 3 місяці тому

      What r u talking about? Goodwill or hatred? Do u belief one evildoer can justify another evil doers act?

    • @anandasatya483
      @anandasatya483 3 місяці тому

      முடிஞ்சா சமஸ்கிருதத்தில் விளக்கம் போடுங்க.

  • @Creditnotmine
    @Creditnotmine 3 місяці тому

    Nermaya Brahmananukum , paapan maariyey karpanai panitu alaira , Soothira Sangikalum 🤭 , adutha Jenmathuku, adutha Jenmathula kooda Onnaha mudiyathu..🤔

  • @Madhu.R
    @Madhu.R 2 місяці тому

    திருவள்ளுவருக்கு jain சாயம் பூசினப்போ ஊமையா இருந்திங்களா?

    • @user-fu1lo8rs3t
      @user-fu1lo8rs3t 2 місяці тому

      கிறிஸ்தவன் என்ற பாவாடை பித்தலாட்டம்

  • @visalramani
    @visalramani 3 місяці тому

    DO NOT disturb a hornet's nest. 🛑
    Let people live in peace and harmony. 🫂
    Music must unite people and NOT divide them.
    Most of such problems are caused by complexes... both Superior and Inferior.
    We only need a spark of hatred to go back to that period of EVR where people felt threatened and unsafe, just because they belonged to a community.
    The whole world respects and celebrates Bhagavad Gita which has answers for all the problems of Life.... except those in T.N
    The whole country knows Hindi except those in TN.
    Who is the ultimate loser?
    Who is forced to seek jobs in his own state?
    Who is forever riding happily the proverbial "Gunduch chattiyil kuthirai???" 🐎

  • @sridharushamma
    @sridharushamma 3 місяці тому

    .sootharan sootharan

  • @Vdbail
    @Vdbail 3 місяці тому +2

    Dear brother and sisters please do not listen to people like Maruthaiyan. He is a rabid hater of peaceful coexistence between communities. Owing to people like Maruthaiyan and co today Carnatic music is almost out of TN. 40 years back all the great vocal and non vocal carnatic music performers were from TN. Today AP ,Telangana along with Kerala and Karnataka are beginning to top. This is happening owing to deep dislike for Carnatic music in TN.
    DK and EVR gangs linked Carnatic music to Iyer and Iyengars. The hatred for Iyer and Iyengars has been linked to Carnatic music as well. In another 30 years we would hardly have any leading Carnactic music vidwan or vidushi from TN. This is what DK and EVR gangs want to achieve.
    How many of you have approached an Iyer or Iyengar for Carnatic Music training?
    How many have been rejected training by Iyer or Iyengar?
    The sabha ticket is open to all. How many have gone for such shows?
    Why is DMK controlling MA? Why bring politics to music?
    Tamil musician use Carnatic Music in Movies. Has it been stopped by Iyer or Iyengars?
    Music is for everyone. Allow Carnatic music to survive and Prosper in TN.

    • @prabhubharathan
      @prabhubharathan 3 місяці тому

      Best channel to listen to Mr. Maruthaiyan's oral diarrhea!

    • @mekalapugazh6192
      @mekalapugazh6192 3 місяці тому +1

      Good..let tamils learn hindusthani or western music..all music are divine only..

    • @Vdbail
      @Vdbail 3 місяці тому

      @@mekalapugazh6192 : Guess you want Tamils to stop eating Rice, Idli and Dosa.
      Guess from now on you want all Tamils to only eat only Chapathi, Roti and Burger.
      What can you say to people from EVR gang who hate their own culture and legacy..lol
      Get well soon!

    • @Vdbail
      @Vdbail 3 місяці тому

      @@mekalapugazh6192 : So you would learn anything but Carnatic music.
      The truth is out.
      EVR gang member acknowledges the truth..lol
      No one is stopping you people from learning Carnatic music. But you people hate it for no apparent reason.
      Get well soon!

    • @karthikgolferphoenix-usa1650
      @karthikgolferphoenix-usa1650 3 місяці тому +1

      Periyaar fought for the downtridden people : Periyar promoted rationalism, self-respect, and the eradication of caste. He stood against the exploitation and marginalization of non-Brahmin Dravidian people in South India. He also fought for Gender Equality and Women’s Liberation: , Why do you hate when a person fought for the welfare of poor people?. What is your intention here. You should get well soon!

  • @GuruPrasad-nx1to
    @GuruPrasad-nx1to 3 місяці тому +1

    Call tamillabs into your discussion