Yamaha vs Suzuki Boat Engines (Pricing, Warranties, Features, In-Depth Comparison & Review)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Debating between a Yamaha or a Suzuki as your next boat engine? If so, this is the video for you. In it, we'll take an unbiased look at both marine brands, and do a close-up comparison as to how they compare-- be it pricing, warranties, and other features.
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Yamaha has a 97% reliability rating. I am a Yamaha guy but I think they are all doing a great job on reliability. I know people who have been running Suzuki and Mercury for the last 5 years and have had no problems. I am impressed with Mercury's research and development department. They have been on fire lately. If I am not mistaken Suzuki dominates the repower market (Last year anyway)
Well said WC.
The suzuki's of the 2000's and all the rust gave them a bad rap (deservedly) but I think a lot of those issues have been fixed - that will be tough to overcome though. I will never put a suzuki on my boat - nor would I own a Mercury Optimax or a Yamaha HPDI - EVER Old habits die hard
Suzuki cornered the market because there prices are the cheapest by 20%
Murc is the only motor in the race industry back in the day from headers to bored cly blocks
@@kencleg7721 not sure what back in the day you mean but in the 70’s Johnson was HEAVILY involved in racing. You could buy heads, carbs, reeds, special gear cases. Midsections with exhaust and almost everything else you need to race. Also semi-solid bushings for the midsections and mounts. Especially the V-4 Johnson’s but the 3 cyl 60-75hp blocks were an extremely popular class.
I went from Yamaha SHO to Suzuki, and I have absolutely zero regrets. The only caveat is that my local service center does not service Suzuki. So, I drive 45 mins one way to have the DF200A serviced, no big deal. I will say this, I honestly believe this Suzuki gets better fuel economy than the Yamaha did. And I love the white paint job.
I had a Suzuki 250, Yamaha 250 SHO and Yamaha 300. I think the Suzuki was more efficient and the Yamahas are louder. I am not partial to either brand but wouldn't care for a boat with anything but Yamaha or Suzuki. The only reason I switched from Suzuki to Yamaha is the boat manufacture, I wanted a Sportsman bay boat which had Yamaha.
I have 2020 70hp Suzuki on my bass boat that I repowered from an Envinrude. I couldn’t be any happier with it. Great outboard. I have had Yamaha boat owners on board and they are very impressed with it. Thanks for this video.
I bought a new 2021 Suzuki 25hp short shaft electric start with power tilt & trim and 5 yr warranty. No other manufacturer offers these tributes. My first motor bought new was a 1995 Suzuki 25hp 2 stoke short shaft electric start. I never had any issues with it and having a six year warranty. This new 2021 took time getting used to a 4 stroke RPM range after break in. I went thu three different props to find RPM range to propel my boat as I’d did previously with my old 2 stroke Suzuki. It now pops out of water at start and planes easily. Had trouble finding pitch of propeller for boating and pulling grandkids for tubing. This is my first ever 4 stroke and I don’t miss the smoke at cold start up. I Do miss the right now RPM and plane of boat though. Good point is I use less than half the amount of gas that I used to during a two week resort stay being used in the same manner as old 2 stroke.👍😀😮
HOW MUCH DID U PAY FOR IT
Tohatsu has 5 year warranty on their 25hp too. But Suzuki tohatsu and Yamaha 25hp all use a Mitsubishi ECU go figure
Good job guys. I’m a Yamaha man but have to admit Suzuki is a very good brand.
I've had yamaha and suzuki motors both have been impeccable with regards to reliability and performance. The deciding factors would be cost and dealership distances from me. Whatever brand is cheaper and closer to my house is the one I'd go with.
One factor which may or may not be a deal breaker for some is the fact that Yamaha uses a timing belt on their V6 engines while Suzuki uses a timing chain on their V6 engines.
What is better, timing belt or chain?
chain, less likely to break, and won't need to be replaced in the future. Of course, this is a long-term maintence issue that won't rear its ugly head 'till years down the road.. @@usmarine0352
@@usmarine0352same like car engines, belt has to be changed almost every 4-5 yrs, or 40 to 50 k miles (whatever comes first) because if it breaks, most common will hapen, the pistons will hit the valves which is a serious breakdown and an expensive repair. Chain is real safer and almost for life time with no maintainance at all.(uses engine s oil for it s own lub).
The belt idea, dominated because it s some more quiterer and vibrates less than the chain. Most people like that...
For the engine makers, belt is cheaper than chain, so both are happy...In our days, materials have been improoved but think about a no engine condition in the sea because of a broken belt that might was forgotten to change, a rare case but possible to occur.
Also, another method that we meet in even more expensive and race engines, is instead of a chain, use of a big gear,(like 20-25 inc) that conects the camshaft directly with the crankshaft. I hope i helped a little bit and now that you know, order your engine according your preferences...😂😂😅😅
I have never seen Yamaha timing belt go bad 1800 to change it man they robbed you only takes a hour maybe hour and a half tops . The chain on Suzuki is under power head in a bath of oil that’s why Suzuki generally takes 2 to 3 qts more oil when changing
I bought a brand new Hewescraft Sea Runner 2 years ago with a max power option 225 Yamaha on it. I have been 100% happy with the Yamaha no issues with about 250 hours on it so far. I troll with a kicker motor so I only add hours on it going from point A to point B. On my next boat I will look at Suzuki as I have no issues at all going with them. My main points when I look at them is going to be price, warranty, and torque of the motor. I use the boat on the great lakes and we have a large amount of islands near us on Lake Superior and when the currents and wind gets going we get really rough weather and I need a motor that has that low end torque for getting through the waves. Now on the Yamaha and Suzuki both go with inline motors up to 200 hp and 225 and above they go to V6 engines so they are comparable.
Даже не думай переходить на Сузуки. Купи эбу от ямахи ф300 и поставь на свой ф225. Налог будешь платить за 225,а гонять на 300.На крейсерских оборотах 3000-3500 расход останется почти такой же, а вот максимальная скорость подростëт на 7-8 км/ ч. Тяга ( крутящий момент) тоже вырастут. Привет из России!
The only reason why I bought a Suzuki is because everyone and everyone in my area has Mercury and Yamaha.(they're all good) Which brands are most popular varies from area to area.
I don't know why the engine manufactures keep trying to get their large engines to idle lower and lower for tolling. low rpm's for long periods of time is not good for them. They should just put two forward speeds in the transmissions...one low speed speed for trolling, and one for traveling. Use the throttle to adjust the troll speed. Great video.
I currently run both, and have ran both since 1984 (first Yamaha 90hp 2 Stroke) 1988 (first Suzuki 20hp 2 Stroke) and 6 motors since, equally split between the 2 Brands. Both Brands have been very dependable, compared to the previous Brand used. Both are represented by reputable Dealers within 25 miles. Price, Warranty and Oil Bathed Timing Chain vs Timing Belt, made my last decision for Suzuki DF140A. 300hrs without any issues.
Let me guess, previous brand was a Mercury?
@Aaron_Hanson Nope, I have never owned a Mercury, many OMC's but, I have never purchased an OMC, since the 1984 90hp Yamaha,
In 2018, I bought a new Suzuki DF140A. Engine threw a trouble code due to a sensor failure within a year of purchase. Engine developed a delayed throttle response(lag) when you dropped the hammer to WOT. Sold that rig. Bought a new boat with the Yamaha 4.2 SHO. Love the Yamaha. Night and day difference.
You will have the same problem with the sho if the VST filter is clogged.
Yamaha fanboy!!!!👎
Why didn't you change the bad sensor?
I have a 20 Year old Yamaha F150 4Stroke. People let me tell you don't buy any other brand. I have had Sea Tow and Boat US for 20 damn years and never used them once. I only fish offshore East Coast of Florida.
Cape Horn Boats
The length of Manufacturer's Warranty tells you everything you need to know about the manufacturer's faith in the quality of their products............
That's a good way to look at it Keith.
Got a old 1998 115 Yamaha just rebuilt it this year and she’s brand new 20+ going strong baby
What is done in a rebuild. I own a 2000 x-15 bought new. Biggest problem is not enough time on the water in wot!
Repowered my Boston Whaler with twin Suzuki 200 Hp with digital controls and white finish, really happy with the purchase 👍
After spending 14 plus years around the family owned fishing resort on a remote part of Vancouver Island, Suzuki outboards dominate the area, water taxi services, logging camps, guides and personal boats. They have a bullet proof reputation in the area i am familiar with. There are plenty of other motors too. They are all good....
Good honest show
In Sydney Australia most taxi boats have Yamaha I have one myself an f200 2006 and done 650 hrs the only issue I had was the pick up fuel pump failed
Otherwise very happy with it
In Indonesia too. Allmost 100% Yamaha outboards.
I run both I have a 20 hp Suzuki and a 25 Yamaha and I love em both they’ve been great running very reliable outboards and are simple to work on
I'm a simple guy that uses smaller outboards. Recently, I was in the market for a repower, preferably, a 25-40hp four-stroke tiller. Given the weight of a 40hp motor and the size of my boat, I dropped my considerations to a 25-30hp four-stroke option. Well, I found that Honda and Suzuki use the 25hp block to construct their 30hp outboards, where Yamaha uses the 40hp blueprint. The weight difference is significant so that dumped Yamaha from my consideration in a 30hp motor. I really wanted the Honda, but no one had one in stock, and no one could give me a timeframe on ordering one. No one had a Suzuki 30hp in stock either, but I found a 25hp option, in stock, for $1200 less than Honda or Yamaha 25hp motors. It was 25hp or risk not having a set up for the 2023 fishing season, so I bought the Suzuki. I have friends that have owned the brand and they have zero complaints. I have owned Yamahas myself and have zero complaints, but all in all, the price point won over and I went with the Suzuki, which is also my current motorcycle brand, and has been since 2005, problem free. So far, I'm pleased as punch!
Great share, appreciate it Kenneth!
They are both great products. Generally.
I got trip Yamaha 425s on my yellowfin. Resale is a big consideration when repowering at this price point. And for that reason alone I cannot see switching out to Suzuki. The market is what it is.
Good points Dennis.
There were a lot of good points made in this video and I did learn a few things. I have been looking at these two brands to repower my boat between 60hp and 90hp and they each approach engineering in very different ways. Different gear ratios and Suzuki's DF90A with its offset crankshaft all bring something different to the table. In the 60hp class Suzuki uses a three cylinder versus Yamaha's 4 cylinder with the Suzuki being lighter. They both offer great outboards, but it is up to the end user to make an informed decision on which is best for them. Where and how the motor is used and what your expatiations are as well as are you going to do your own preventive maintenance or is the dealer going to do it all? Things to consider are not only cost and warranty of the motor, but knowing and having a relationship with your selling/servicing dealer. Knowing you will be taken care of by people that have your interest at heart and not just a sale matters as much as the outboard itself. You have to look at the whole picture and not just how much you are writing the check for so be honest with yourself and ask a lot of question and read everything you can and make the decision that is best for you. In the end your confidence with your purchase and the servicing dealer are just as important. Happy motoring and tight lines.
I loved your video. It is honest and provides priceless insights. I do have twin 150 Suzuki blacks
I have a Yamaha F150 on a 21 ft sea hunt with no issues
But I think Mercury is on the cutting edge
I owned a Yamaha for 25 years or more... Hard to beat the reliability of Yamaha... But saying that Suzuki's are really good too
I run a 239 Sea Pro with a 300 Suzuki, my buddy runs a 239 Key West with 2 150hp ETEC's, his boat is lighter by just about 500lbs, i blow him out of the water as far as fuel mileage goes, i get just shy of 3 miles to the gal, with him combined at 1.6 to 1.8 miles to the gal...... On a side note, we have alot of dealers for both Yamaha and Suzuki here on Long Island, definitely been seeing more Suzuki on the water the past couple years tho, had a friend price out a 300 Yammy compared to Suzuki and they wanted over 10k more for the Yamaha..... thats insane ....
i have had a yamaha 6 horse for 30 years. it is the best motor i have ever had, BY FAR. it still starts with one pull and runs smooth.
Both great motors I've had both I prefer the Yamaha
Bubba is awesome, Jetts will always take care of you. Can't wait for my zuk 90s rigged. Can't say enough about their customer service. LKA VA
I've worked in the marine business for 12 years. Parts and Service Department, and engine warranties. I believe Yamaha is a superior engine. Yamaha powerhead have painted water passages. Suzuki doesn't. Suzuki blocks have more corrosion powerhead issues. Suzuki engine will cost more for oil changes. V-6 engines take 9 quarts of oil. One good on the Suzuki engine is the timing chain. Versus Yamaha timing belt.
Which one would you recommend in 50-70hp range to be used in fresh water only?
@@mikey27437 suzuki
Google Yamaha corrosion issues
@liv2fish21 former service writer here, for suzuki, Yamaha, omc/brp, mercury, and mercruiser. I know all about the issues with all the major manufacturers. I started in the boating industry in 1997 when it was mostly 2 stroke engines.
Good detailed input on why you think one is superior over the other.. unlike other comments but Yamaha do have major corrosion problems
The real key with outboards is to take care of them. Check and change the lower unit oil, especially if any fishing line or grass wrapped around the prop shaft. Oil is cheap as compared to a full rebuild of the lower unit. Change the water pump impeller every other year if you use it regularly. As for flushing, I prefer to put the lower unit in the tank and not just hook up the hose. The hose may circulate through the internals of the engine, but it doesn't remove all of the salt from the outside of the lower unit. Salt and aluminum are not friends. As for buying second hand, try and get freshwater only engines.
Yamaha has a timing belt, $1800 or more to change if you can find a mechanic, and a Suzuki is a timing chain.. you pick it
Had a Yamaha 90, for several years. Now have a Suzuki 350, love both , my 350 is patented for a couple improvements. . My Yamaha was super dependable. The Suzuki is newer, but so far flawless. Had a Mercury 250, no issues but never felt good about it over 3 years I had it.
I had a boat built and shipped to the Philippines. Before I powered it, I went to a service center in Florida and explained where I was shipping it and what would they recommend since service centers are non existent. The guy told me that both are good, but when he sells a Yamaha he tells the guy I will see you later. When he sells a Suzuki he tells the guy by. As long as you do general maintenance on a Suzuki they just don't break. All the off shore fishermen are switching to Suzuki. I put on twin 140's and have not had a single problem.
I always liked Mercury, owned many and never had any issues. My yamahas I have owned have had some issues, F150 with a bad balancer took out the crank shaft, out of warranty but still fixed for free. I have seen loads of Suzukis and yamahas with severe corrosion that destroyed the powerhead, usually around 15+ years old. That said I just boat a new suzuki and am happy.
I suppose I'm Yamaha loyal since I'm on my 3rd Yamaha motorcycle. I'm planning to buy a small boat soon, and I will look at both brands. I've heard good reviews on the Tohatsu brand as well.
They're all great. Buy based on what you see on the water where you plan to boat. Where I live it's Yamaha but a couple miles away everyone runs mercs. Buy what works where you boat. Service as per manufacturers schedule, give it clean fuel, good lubricants and flush when you can and enjoy your new boat.
i have a 150 tohatsu on my 18 parker and it runs great
@@brand1nn943Это мотор Хонды, у Тохатсу пока нет своих мотор в этой мощностной категории. Думаю всё впереди. Привет из России!
The "white" Yamaha is their saltwater series, it's more than just a paint color that adds the money
No, it's not like your trolling motor, black for fresh and white for salt. These big ones are for offshore boats, and the 425 was even named as offshore no matter which color. The fresh water bass boats use the V Max serial a lot, which is another story. Yamaha charges so much for white just because they think their fans would like to pay for matching the color with their expensive boats.
You have been mis-informed. Both the grey and white are saltwater series engines. The white color is just choice.
Seems like a very balanced, honest appraisal. Good video.
My Yamaha 300 gave up after 5280 hours with no major issues till the very end. I replaced it with a Suzuki 300 and started having issues the first 200 hours. I'm attempting to keep the Suzuki alive until my Yamaha gets delivered.
One thing I will say is the Suzuki is extremely quiet. If that's an important factor for you, I don't think you'll find a quieter engine.
I have a 60hp Tohatsu and a 250 Suzuki and I swear at low rpm, my Suzuki is actually quieter
@@rdh5961 They are incredibly well made and extremely quiet engines!
A 3 cyl suzuki is quieter than a 4 cyl yamaha? F50/DF50 2024 models
Crankshaft to Driveshaft is engineered differently between these engines in the higher horsepower range. The Susuki power head sits forward of the leg centre line, shifting weight forward.
I have a mercury 115 pro xs. Absolutely nihilates any other motor on the market. So powerful, gas efficient and a 4 stroke. Awesome motor hands down.
These guys are not talking about the valve adjustment needed for the smaller motors. Mercury blocks 2.0, are hydraulic self adjusting. More props aftermarket support for mercs from sierra. But merc/yammie/suzi/Honda are all decent now. Tohatsu is rebadged Honda.
This was one of your best videos. Thanks.
They’re both excellent. I wouldn’t walk away from either if they were on a boat. My last boat had a 2007 Suzuki df200 v6. It had around 2000 hours on it when I sold the boat in 2021. The engine was still quiet as a mouse. My new boat has a 2018 Yamaha F300. Only 400 hours on it but it’s excellent. Can’t go wrong with either. If I was repowering a boat I’d go with whoever gives you the better deal in the HP you’re looking for. 🤷🏻♂️.
Suz is on fire there great engines w great warranty but being a Yamaha guy and a 4:12 60 tlra 2 stroke I just rebuilt it for 3.500 done hopefully I’ll get another 10 out of it it’s a 02
I have a 15 hp Yamaha kicker and it has freshwater port on the starboard side. Have owned 2 250 Yamaha outboard motors and never an issue. I wouldn’t care which motor came on my boat between these 2.
Friend recently repowered boat with Suzuki 250hp, at 20% more the Yamaha didn't get a look in,. Price difference was worth few years of running costs. Honda was slightly more expensive but not enough to count it out, Suzuki had more CCs and better features. Given how reliable Yamaha are why don't they match competitors on warranty.
Because they aren't "better" than suzuki, marketing has fooled alot of people into think yamaha is the tip dog
I don't know about motors in the last 15 years, BUT fishermen in the north atlantic using the boat tear round will go through three Suzukies for every one Yamaha. They like the Yamahas because of low to very low maintenance. The others are in constant need especially the Mercuries (very sensitive)
We bought two boats a Alumacraft with Yamaha and a Lund with Mercury. The Mercury 150 didn't even make it through break in without blowing up. Warranty replaced it with a new engine after the computer verified that break in procedure was follwed. The engine failed due to a ChineseMade main bearing. Mercury may be made in America but the parts are outsourced fromChina. Yamaha is bulletproof. I will take Japan metalurgy over chineseJunk anyday!
Team Marine Service did this video. Andy knows all!!!!!
My comment for what it’s worth. I have a 2011 50hp Yamaha on my Bennington Pontoon with 448 hours on it. I change the Oil & Filter along with the Lower Unit. I also grease all of the Zerks at the end of the season in Wisconsin. Knock on wood Zero Problems. Love my Yamaha so much I bought a 16.5 foot StarCraft Fishing Boat and put an F70 HP on it with now about 30 hours of service. And Yes Zero Problems.
I run with Yamaha, because that is all I know. Thanks for sharing.
I own both and so far I'd say the yamaha seems a little more reliable but I swear the Suzuki has way more power
Suzuki tends to be more torquey which is great for deep and heavier modified V’s. I haven’t been into shallow V’s since the early 90’s when 2 strokes were king.
Zuk probably underrates power spec. Dunno really, but brilliant when you think about it. Can sell a more powerful motor for less in the category. Overachieve and lower price. The trick is to retain your values when you own the market.
In Sweden we got 7 years warrantie on Suzuki.
Growing up, my father had two boats with Suzuki engines on them. Both engines left us stranded multiple times or simply wouldn’t start. Due to that experience, I will never buy a Suzuki engine. With that being said, the best engine is the engine that has the closest dealer/maintenance shop…. 😀
Suzuki has chain driven timing. Yamaha, Mercury, Tohatsu - belt. Suzuki it is.
The bigest argument for me.
Yep yep , it's why i prefer suzuki outboard 💪💪
belt drive is easier to replace. Look at all the import car engines- honda, toyota,etc- all belt drive
@@ultimatejay all switched to chain by now. When I was younger had to replaced 2 times on my 2003 Mitsubishi 2.4L. Since I buy only vehicles with chains. Never had to replace again and will never buy anything with belt.
@@mikey27437 you do know the timing belts on outboards are on the very top of the engine. they are easier than replacing a fan belt on a car. timing chains need to be replaced too you know.
The only two outboard engines I’ll ever buy is a new Yamaha or an old Yamaha.
It’s usually harder to get parts for Suzuki. There is also not as many aftermarket parts for Suzuki i.e lower units.
That is because the Suzuki lower unit is the best in the market.
Spot on. I can get yammie parts anywhere even mercury tohatsu parts. Suzy parts are hard to come buy limited dealers
my experience with yamaha is horrible. after one year my lower unit started leaking water into it. the dealer said i needed a new lower unit. after they replaced it yamaha refused to honor the dealer's diagnosis. the dealer tried to hold my boat hostage and charge me $1,200 . we went round and round until i threatened to take them to small claims court. i would never consider buying another one.
Sounds more like a dealer problem to me possibly, if their the ones who set it up and had a gasket out of place
Yamaha has the reputation for being reliable in New Zealand though my local volunteer coastguard runs twin Suzuki outboards and they love them and they do big hours
Did they speak for nearly 20 minutes without mentioning the service costs? That the Yamaha has a timingbelt that needs to be changed (at a high price) and that the Suzuki has a good old fashioned timingc hain that will last "forever?"
And I’m still rocking my old hp 500
My 2022 Suzuki 9.9 has a freshwater flush same as my 175
Love my twin DF200 Suzuki’s.
So, I just went and looked at both Yamaha and Suzuki, to have both of them in WHITE, in a 25hp "portable" tiller, with same options and whatnot, there's only a 70$ difference between the 2. I even tried a few other sizes, and I haven't had a 2000$ difference in price for a white Yamaha vs its grey counterpart... I think you should make a revised version of this video with the added bonus of talking about accessories. Often times, it comes down to accessories. Which company has the best gauges? the most versatile gauges? the most versatile remote or tiller handle? the largest choice of options... etc.
I'll be enjoying my 200hp Suzuki. Thanks 👍
I’m putting a Suzuki 140 on my 18ft Hydra sport next week.
Buy the brand that has the best shop near you if you trailer. If you dock or dry buy the brand the marina service is most familiar with.
Good advice 👍
What's quieter a 70hp Yamaha or Suzuki on open wide throttle?
Excellent 👍. I would favor Suzuki for the longer warranty and a little bit cheaper but I would also be happy to own a Yamaha. I don't think you can go wrong either way. I would definitely take either of these two brands over Mercury. Thank you 👍
What I look for is reliability economy servicing and Price last. We had a Perkins Chrysler Crescent Johnson Yamaha. Yamaha beat those by a very very long way. Because there are others makes things hard for new outboards but Suzuki is kicking right way with something lighter and new 4 stroke engines. Here is what I found Mercury still going few other makes not Japanese then there is Honda that used to be the best 4 stroke but heavy. Now the difference Between the Mercury Johnson Evinrude and the jalapeno was HP at the head and Japanese engines were HP at the prop. Which Yamaha won until Suzuki as now all HP at the Prop. As said the Suzuki is lighter and a bit more economical but it is so close.
Buy the engine you can get serviced locally.
Yep, that’s the key for sure Nick.
It's about reliability. Yamaha has a 97 percent reliability rating. Not saying Suzuki is bad, but if I'm on the water, I want reliability.
I like research and development. But more and more elements going all electronic creates more probability of failure. And last thing I want is my steering or throttle to go out 100 miles offshore
I’ll take the Mercury Verado!
I heard that Suzuki is the only one running a timing chain instead of a timing belt
Great Video. The True for real.
They did not mention the relation between HP and Torque and gas consumption on both etc, also did not mention how high Susuki goes up in HP, I was expecting all that.
Now that being said Yamaha is a superb motor but if I have to chose it would be Susuki. They’re simply awesome noiseless beautiful motors.
Here is a better explanation of the new Suks
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You mean suduki, just kidding. Both are very good motors. Find out which motor your local boat mechanic services and go with that one.
If you live near a Suzuki Service shop That's the answer to the question Yamaha's are also great But they're more expensive across-the-board even with regular scheduled maintenance You pay more just to pay more
What I find funny is that when bombardier bought evinrude/ johnson back in the day, I dont know how many years ago, they phased out Johnson and said we are not even gona make them anymore ( Johnson that is) then they bought Suzuki and quote started making Suzuki outboards. Which were pretty soso motors.Then when everyone was making 4 strokes Suzuki wanted to get in on the action. They already had a platform to make 4 stokes so painted them black and slapped a Suzuki sticker on a Johnson 4 stroke and called it a day. I will say Johnson 4 strokes were some of the best 4strokes you could get. So really the motors had nothing to do with the car maker they just shared a name. Bet a lot never knew that tidbit?
Excellent video
I know the tech is cool and all, the capability of these electronics are great, but my personal preference is for analog. Circuitry and water just opens the door for failures, and those electronics aren't cheap to replace.
Interesting they did not mention the different gear ratios in each brand. The better efficiency of the Suzuki. And the timing chain vs belt. Those are kinda key.
Did Yamaha fix the expensive corroding issues had 2 with rotting bellhousing/exhaust guides 2006 and 2008s?
Got a Suzuki 200 with 20 hours, ask local dealer to upgrade to a 250 and it was a $14K upgrade. Crazy right?
Yamy, no programing plug and play pricey. Suzy, you have to program this one, also good price.
I regret not repowering with a Suzuki. I bought a 7 year old 75hp etec. I put more money into getting it running right than it would have cost me for a brand new Suzuki. 3 Years later the screw all 6 came out of the reeds into the engine and wiped it out.
great review thanks.
Appreciate that Gary!
I think Zuks are actually easier to service than Yams.. it's a really hard jump to Yamaha from Zuk these days. Reliability is the same for all practical purposes, and I see actual prices with more than a 10% variation. I think it's closer to 15% in reality.
Great video. Thank you.
Both Yamaha and Suzuki are subordinate companies of Toyota , Japan.
Toyota owns 3.8 % of Yamaha and 4.94% of Suzuki, so you're pretty much wrong
The maintenance is more on the Yamaha than the Suzuki. Yamaha has a timing belt that needs adjustment where as Suzuki had a timing chain. No adjustment.
Will Suzuki make an outboard bigger than their 4.4L DF350??
Hope they do bring out a V8 with HP north of 400
I live un Argentina (hell), Suzuki is the outboard for war, 2 and 4 st
My local dealer sells both and is able to give a better price on the Suzuki. He loves both but can give a better on the Suzuki so that made my decision.
shouldn't honda be in this mix? as good or better?
Honda hasnt been in the game in 10 years. Their motors have the lowest power to weight ratio.
@@454budmanmost reliable you'll ever buy, period.
Love my Honda!
I bought a Suzuki DF50 in May to repower my 1999 boat. I was looking more at the technical aspect of the engine as the cams are driven by a chain running in oil on the bottom rather than a belt drive on top. Suzuki has 4 valves per cylinder rather than 2 and their advertising says it gets 37% better mileage. I am interested in why Honda is not appearing as a major player in this market as I own 4 Honda motorcycles I am thrilled with.
So the Suzuki DF50 is a 3 cylinder, the Yamaha F50 is a 4 cylinder, are you saying the Suzuki 3 is better than the ymaha 4?
@@SCDeerAddict Yamaha has a slight edge on total displacement with just under 1,000cc to the Suzuki 941cc. I normally like 4 cylinder engines in motorcycles, but you couldn't ask for anything smoother than this 3. Suzuki weighs less with its extensive use of plastic and you are never going to find someone to sell you a Yamaha as cheaply as the Suzuki With PT&T I paid $4,990.
@allanweseman5433 wow, I was quoted $8800 for a suzuki DF50 tiller installed. ..the yamaha T50 tiller was quoted $8200 installed. That's the beefier lower unit model of the F50
@@SCDeerAddict I am an old retired auto mechanic. My origional DF40 Suzuki motor corroded through the cylinder head in just 314 hours of run. For 13 years the boat has sat under cover as I was trying to find a good used cylinder head. I found one three days before I moved from Jacksonville FL to Lake Panasoffkee FL. For 2 more years it sat as I had plenty of projects to do here where I moved to. I had come right along on reassembly on the rebuild when I spotted an ad for a brand new DF-50A '23 leftover on facebook marketplace, 100 miles away in New Smyrna Beach. This is in the crate with power tilt and trim. I am surprised they would sell it to me in the crate but they had bought a HUGE number of new outboards that had been "lost" in a warehouse. This one is not tiller operated and my original remote box and cables worked with it but you had to use an adapter harness to go from the old round electrical plug to the rectangular one on the new engine and that was an additional $200. My old stainless prop fits and I replaced all the gas tank, hose, inline water separator. The shift cable was a little cranky so I bought a new one. I couldn't pass up this deal of a lifetime and will continue working to make the old original motor run I can sell later.
If he sells Suzuki and Yamaha he has to say same same same he has reps and relationships with both he can’t beat up on either of them I do agree they both are good but not sure I can say it non bias
My 20 year old 200 HPDIs have 1300 hours on them, and I do all of the maintenance, from changing filters, thermostats, and plugs, to replacing water pumps, lift pumps, voltage regulator, mystery filters, resealed both lower units, etc... They purr like kittens, and if I had to repower, I would first look for another pair of HPDIs that someone is repowering from, which would cost maybe a quarter of a set of new engines...
you must not use your boat much. I have 600hrs on my 200 in 3 years
@@ultimatejay Pretty much... Live an hour from it with DC between us, so boating is generally limited to the weekends in the summer... Only upside is that I don't burn a ton of gas - lol... Average maybe 50 hours a season...