U-Drag: Hyundai Elantra N vs. Volkswagen Golf GTI
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- The Volkswagen Golf GTI and Hyundai Elantra N are the No. 1- and No. 2-ranked hot hatches on Edmunds, respectively. In this video, Lauren McCay from Edmunds heads out to the desert with the 2022 VW Golf GTI and 2022 Hyundai Elantra N to see which one of these hot hatchbacks comes out on top in our latest U-Drags race. Lauren reports on which hatch won the drag race and compares the Elantra N's and Golf GTI's 0-60 time, top speeds and horsepower. Can the original hot hatch Golf GTI stay one step ahead of the newer Elantra N? Lauren answers this and much more in our latest video in our new series we dubbed "U-Drags." It's the 2022 Volkswagen Golf GTI vs. 2022 Hyundai Elantra N.
What is a U-Drag race? A U-Drag race consists of both cars heading down the track like a standard drag race, then braking hard, flipping around and then heading back.
2022 Hyundai Elantra N price & review: edmu.in/3tLWFbU
2022 Volkswagen Golf GTI price & review: edmu.in/3qpv53g
Best Hot Hatches of 2022 & 2023: edmu.in/3AOkrcj
00:00 Intro
02:01 Race 1 Prep
04:04 Race 1
06:14 Race 2 Prep
07:08 Race 2
09:20 Stats Recap
10:17 Edmunds' Take
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So, what would be your pick: the GTI or the Elantra N?
aftermarket support, heritage, etc. VW GTI easily.... Elantra is nice but nice try Hyundai LMFAO! with all your engine recalls etc! yea Hyundai and KIA! NEVER EVER!
Elantra N all the way!
Veloster N :)
GTI for me. I will deal with the carbon build-up.
The better looking and fastest one , the GTI
I love U-Drags. I wish this was a weekly series, especially with so many competitive enthusiast cars in the same relative price range under $50k
Same here
Me too, this is a much better indication of a car's performance than regular drags.
It still amazes me that nobody ever thought of this type of competition before Edmunds.
I know right? It's a very good quick and dirty way of seeing what a car can do.
It amazes that even after Edmunds has implemented it, no-one has copied it. Seems like a no brainer.
Didn't road and track magazine do it?
@@madrx2 Nope
This one is a clean format from a respected company, but several channels have done similar things, here we have a pro driver, doing lap times on 4 cars in this price range (Results near the end, spoiler alert: wildly different results than we see here) ua-cam.com/video/o2yJbpxVgTA/v-deo.html
There's going to be a lot of salty Elantra/Veloster/Kona N fans on here lol.
Ohhh, they are big mad in the comments section. 😂
Type R owner here. I've seen both of these cars extensively at auto cross events. The Elantra N has been objectively faster than the GTI around any course I've been to over the summer. This seems off.
Elantra N owner here. Just want to thank on behalf of all N car owners ! Your statement carries allot of credibility since you've raced so much. Something was a miss in this race. Have a good day. Fan of the Type R as well !
Cheers
🍻
I'm curious what tires they have on the Gti, I know some of the press cars had the Bridgestone semi slicks on them.
I saw every video, Elanta N never beats type R.. but never lose normal GTI.. Something wrong in this test.
I agree with this statement, I expected the N to win here. But I do see the tuned GTI's do very well at autocross events.
Golf R MK8 owner here and surprised by the result too.
I'm not a fan of the design of the new Sonata and Elantra, but for some reason, I'm digging the N. I think it's the blacked out front and aggressive fascia.
I have to admit, I’m surprised. I did expect it to be close, but still thought the Elantra would take it. I think a lot of people underestimate the GTI.
When the GTIs are tuned they make light work out of tuned V8s,
@@dodga100 with E85 yeah
@@roboticvenom1935 the MK8s are making MK7 E85 power on 98 tunes, ECU just got cracked, it’s on like donkey kong🤣
@@dodga100yes sir and hyundai basically has no after market / tuning support. GTI all day baby
It's easy to think that the GTI wouldn't perform well because it looks so similar to all the prior ones. They definitely did more for the Mk8 chassis than it appears.
In the previous Subaru match,
Elantra N produced a 37.6 second result.
This video is a little weird.
with a stick no less, but I guess the old- different day, driver, temp, surface conditions etc.........
I don't like how the cameras swap while racing , the way that gti just made up for the 3 car gapping it got from the EN at the start and took the win even though the N has the way better electronic differential.......bit suspicious.
Yeah especially when in each race the Elantra lost, but it had higher trap speeds and more grip.
Rigged
This video is rigged 100%
This U-Drag concept is amazing. I am shocked about the results here, I really expected the N to dominate this.
I mean the drivers did switch cars, so you mean get 2 entirely new drivers in the seat?
@@ALMX5DP Do they? I thought they just switched the lane each car was on and kept the driver! If they do switch cars, I apologize!
@@carscoffeeandcannabis-634 the driver’s actually swapped :P
As a VW GTI and golf R owner, the EN should have had this. Just so happens both drivers had perfect runs with the GTI and totally messed up while driving the EN
the N would've dominated if the drivers weren't absolutely awful lmao. I've raced a GTi and I don't know what they are doing here but I put like 2 bus lengths on it
Felt like he messed up Big time on the second race with elantra they should of redone that match.
yup, the EN launches really well. System wasnt engaged properly on the 2nd race.
@@blevin569 yep but he did the first time.
@@blevin569 Was it the system or was it the operator? The 1st race, the guy ran wide in the turn and he admitted he had it in the wrong gear pulling out of the turn. The 2nd race the guy screwed up the launch. The GTI is definitely a more refined daily driver with a little bit of weekend spirit but the Elantra is faster and lighter. There's no reason it shouldn't have beat the GTI. I'm calling shenanigans.
@@LordHolley Yeah, a couple of channels have done drag races and drag and rolls and the EN dominated the GTI. I know this is different with the U drag, but still in all the other ones it was clear within seconds the EN had more power, and these guys even said what 'should happen' but it didn't. But I think this does prove that the Gulf is less finicky.
@@LordHolley yeah the local VW dealer paid more sponsorship $$..
As volkswagen fan and owner I know no car will give you the feeling of control as golf
Lol. The Elantra n is way more controlled at fast speeds
@@mharro88 elantra n is ugly car and with engine recalls no for me . Ill take the GTI its a winner ..and its a GTI the iconic car . the baby Porsche.👍👍
@@GTIclubdport9462 there hasn't been any engine recalls for any of the N cars idiot lol.. a GTI doesn't handle anywhere near as well as a Elantra N or as quick
@@GTIclubdport9462GTI is a sissy car that God hates. 😅😅😅
@@mharro88no way the only good thing about the Elantra is the tires which makes a huge difference
These are great. Im so sick of the straight line drags which really just highlights - launch control. this highlights the actual cars performance much better, but still with the excitement of a drag.
The outcome SHOCKED me in this one, I thought I knew the outcome when I saw the cars listed. I thought I knew the outcome when I saw which drivers were in which cars (sorry, not meant to be rude but there is precedent).
Then the video happened. Shocking, that was a good race, much better than expected. 👍
As a 2022 GTI owner….NOT shocking!!! The thing handles and brakes and accelerates so well!
@@briandorsey6437 are you still on those stock Goodyear all season tires?
@@Kamukix no mine is the Autobahn edition which comes with summer performance tires which have been really good this year including the winter.
@@briandorsey6437 I would prefer an Autobahn as well because of the adaptive dampers. I have had adaptive on my last two cars and I'm spoiled now. I love them on my mk7.5 R, but our mk8 GTi S is very good as well besides those mediocre tires. I might swap the R wheels and tires on it just to see how it looks and how good the chassis really is with decent rubber on it.
@@Kamukix I must say the Adaptive Dampers have been a pleasant surprise in terms of how noticeable the difference between comfort mode & sport mode are. It’s like two different cars. Comfort mode is fantastic for whipping around a city or shitty roads in cities or shitty highways. The chassis & shocks just roll & adjust so smoothly and take the road yet the car still feels pretty sporty. Sport mode the whole thing tightens up from chassis feel to steering wheel tightness to the way the engine Revs and how long it holds the gears ⚙️ and rev hang etc…I didn’t think I’d like the different modes so much.
Love this series.💯
Good race. A couple of things to say. First, the GTI, with adaptive dampers, can go 3 levels above sport mode if you go to custom mode.. essentially track mode. Second, you can create a shortcut to access to turn the ECS off Swipe down on Home Screen. Hold the “house” home button for 3 seconds and you can move the ECS off option to Home Screen so you only have to swipe down in the future and do it in 2 clicks. That being said, Hyundai has done a great job of creating driver-centric cars… something which I seems to have fallen off the radar for a lot of automakers
To think, they used a base model GTI in the video, and not even the one with adaptive suspension. I wonder how it would've performed with those.
@@mistamaog that’s what I wonder. Set three levels above sport mode with the adaptive suspension, the new GTI has like zero body roll
@@darrensnyder4742 This Mk8 really is impressive
Liked, subscribed, and commented. Keep the U-DRAGS coming!!
I really enjoyed the race !
👏🏻
The Savagegesse guys put the GTI on the dyno and it was putting 240 to the wheels. Figure 15% drivetrain loss, it would actually be 270ish at the flywheel. So figure roughly the same horsepower and ~130 fewer pounds, it's less surprising. However, I am STILL surprised. Though in Savagegeese's drag race the GTI beat the Elantra in the 1/4 mile as well. I do love this format. Do this with everything!
Stock Elantra dynos at 270, so it’s really 300-305ish.
@@callmebex5120 sometimes.. they've also dynoed at 250, it's not as consistent as the GTI's underrated ratings especially torque
Regardless, the Elantra N's power is finicky as fuck and won't even do full boost unless you do octane learning EVERYTIME you fill up with gas man look it up. And many people have trouble activating it at all. If you don't your boost and power gets limited.d
Came in here to find this comment about the MK8
@Robotic Venom so the Elantra N maybe was pulling timing on the 2nd race and thus could not engage LC? Maybe?
Gti is better tho it could've gotten slightly better launch
@@roboticvenom1935the limited boost non octane learned numbers are where hyundai got the 276hp and 289lb ft of torque ratings from. Octane learning was meant to be a nice surprise but was poorly executed. If it worked as intended it’d be great but it’s mainly just software tuning changes that need to be made
U Drags are great! Keep them coming!
We will!
I think they should add a pro driver to take a spin in each car for consistencies sake and to have a comparable leaderboard.
Also how did you come to an as tested price of 30,975 for the gti with the autobahn package 19s?
Yeah wrong data provided by such a renowned channel 💩💩.
Great video! Surprised that the Elantra didn’t take the win here. Seems like the GTI is great when it comes to quick, tight corners, while the Elantra is better in a more track based environment. At least these 2 sporty cars are staying relatively “affordable”
GTi is 200 lbs lighter.
@@buildmorefarms1007 with a more upscale interior, much quieter and upscale NVH, and better ride, based
Id personally take the Elantra N but both are great choices depending on the person. Especially if you tune the GTI
Core GR Corolla will be 35k starting no?
@@carloscervantes836 more like 38-39k with the needed performance pack. But that’s before the dealers get ahold of you 😭 if you can get this car for MSRP, it’s an excellent bargain. We’ll have to see what Honda does with their pricing
Elantra didn't win cause these two guys don't know how to drive. One guy brake too soon the other guy didn't know how to launch. And they supposed to be professional drivers. Sad.
U-drags are legit. More fun than a straight line drag
U-Drag races are seriously my favorite thing on YT right now. More please. 🙂
What tires are on the GTI?
Hey Edmunds Cars, you should really fix the “As Tested” price on the GTI. You have $30,975 but that is clearly a Kings Red Metallic GTI Autobahn which has an MSRP of $39,525 before destination (according to VWs website)
Looks like you quoted the S trim 6 speed starting price, not even the DSG. Kind of a misrepresentation
Who cares, the Autobahn SLOWS down the car and adds weight, so was their weight rating off too?
They should've done the DSG yeah, but guess what I've found many DSG GTI',s for 31.5K MSRP.. FYI
clearly they want to show that the GTI is better.
It's not as complicated to turn ESC off as they say, there is a drop down menu at the top of the screen with a shortcut to change ESC settings easily (previous MK7 GTI owner, current MK8 GTI owner)
Mine doesn't have that shortcut and there doesn't seem to be a way to add it either.
@@JCTiggs1 Check out the Deutsche Auto Parts UA-cam channel, there's a tutorial on how to find it.
@@malikcbarnett Thanks I did check it out but he doesn't show how to 'add' a short-cut. I do have the pull down menu but the ESC button isn't there by default. Maybe it's a region specific thing.
@@malikcbarnett Found this video on how to add a shortcut, I'll try it out tomorrow, hopefully it works! 😎
ua-cam.com/video/78RkFC1Zhmo/v-deo.html
Did they talk about the tires? What tires are the gti running?
The MK8 GTI power numbers are definitely under rated by VW. The car is putting down 245-250 HP and 275-285 lb-ft at the wheels or around 285 HP and 315 lb-ft at the crank.
I agree it makes around 300 crank plus you can tune the GTI
@@JuanRodriguez-uh4hr The tricky part is getting a proper launch without nasty wheel hop, especially after a tune!
Needs to be more of these please 😊
Having owned the GTI and now a Kona N, KN is better performance wise and more fun. GTI is more comfortable and refined. Cant go wrong with either.
Given how well the gti did here I doubt the Kona N is the better performance car. Maybe you can't drive 🤷
@@davothegreat9990 I can’t drive, but they admittedly messed up the launch on the 2nd run and didn’t use NGS Properly either. Got it!
@@1209MArky understood. But it still lost the first run too.
You have not owned MK8 GTi. There is a big difference in performance between Mk6/MK7/Mk7.5 GTi like yours and MK8 GTi.
I really like U-Drags, I wish they were released a little more frequently. It sets you apart from other car channels, I'd be leaning on it hard.
So did the first driver use the boost button or not
I want to see a few more runs. They were pretty close.
In the video with the Elantra N vs WRX, the Elantra N was 1 second faster.
Yeah, because of its tires. Ones the WRX can upgrade its wheels it would dust the Elantra. The Elantra is running 245 Pilot 4s, quite possibly one of the most expensive tires on sell. Take that away and you loose most of its performance.
@@postalpancho I mean the elantra N in that video is 1 second faster than the Elantra N in this video.
@@postalpancho this video is crap. Edmunds always overrating vw. Also you think the subaru will beat the more agile EN? The only advantage the wrx has was off the line acceleration.
@@commentmancommentman1658 ya Edmonds is obviously on the vw payroll
@@ENDCT-mx5ei its always been.
I love hatches. They look simple and clean
Nice new concept!
Glad you like it!
Just curious. Would you folks consider even more affordable rivals? I would love to see the Elantra N-line against a Civic SI.
So many of these reviews on the EN are done by people that don’t actually know how to drive it. Whether it’s from the launch control or how to use the NGS button. I’ve raced GTIs in my EN DCT and gapped them by quite a bit. Using the N mode in auto isn’t where you get all the power. Using the N mode and paddle shifting in manual is where you can really push it. This race was determined by the drivers. Not the cars.
I LOVE this stuff!!!
We need more u-drags! 😊
I love these U-Drags and Lauren McCain's commentary is the icing on the cake i didn't know i so needed! That was a great race and I can't wait to see the next match up.
What do you think about diversity hire? For or against?
I wonder what fuel they were using. EN has octane learning which I assume VW would too. EN adjusts boost 1-2psi with good fuel
This test, something wrong..
@@burnyshin I have an Elantra N and run Shell V-power 93 which is really nice fuel for turbo cars so I'm curious. I assume they are using California 91 octane.
@@Adamal85 GTi was using 87 in this test. Imagine 93 ....
As a GTi owner I can’t explain how agile they are and the brakes are incredible
Agreed I have a 2018 GTI and use to have a BRZ I turbo'd. Sure the BRZ handled better but not by as much as you think. My GTI is just as fast too with the tune, bolt ons.
As sticker price is wrong, Your car is the loaded autobahn thats 40k.
This is bias the N has way bigger brakes upfront and touch bigger in the back with a more handling capability with the rear chassis brace. The N brakes are 14.2 inch vs the gti 13.4 inch. Y’all made the n look bad when is obviously better than the gti
I want more of this!! It's addictive.
Got a simple question: this is now, at least, the second video I've seen where you guys put the words "top speed" in the title but obviously don't show the tops speed in the video. Are you pRoOfReAdInG your titles before you upload them or nah?
Finally an outcome not paid for by Hyundai
Gotta go GTI, more comfortable and an equal performer. I’m sure you could add some of the Elantra’s drama into the car if you really wanted to since the platform is just a newer version of the previous generation which had plenty of routes to take to add to the car.
Aftermarket lower springs, a meaty exhaust, and camber plate and tow arms tuned by a professional would do it.
It's definitely not a equal performer.
@@mharro88not it performs better right
@@L_G_Brandon the en walks all over the GTI in driver engagement and performance.
@@mharro88the only difference this GTI had was the tires . both cars had summer tires this time unlike in previous reviews the GTI had all season. But remember the GTI is the competitor to the Elantra Turbo, a the competitor to the Enlatra N is the GTI CLUB SPORT. But it was not needed as this video clearly shows the regular GTI is a totally different car when you put summer tires on it
Love these videos. Very unique and innovative concept. And love Lauren's addition to the channel!
More to come!
I have a tuned MK7 Golf R and I love seeing my little brother GTI kick some serious butt!
Go see Sam CarLegion...he has a video of the Elantra N beating a MK7 R and winning a roll race against a MK8 R. (all stock of course) There's no denying the R is a serious machine...but the Elantra N is no push over.
I wouldn't put too much stock on this race since the GTI is more nimble in tight turns...take this to a real track and the N wins hands down...would even beat the R ! Hopefully someone does that !
@@patrickbilodeau3785 You are big mad aren’t you? I see you defending the Hyundai all over these comments. Buyers remorse maybe? 😂
Btw, SamCarLegion is a joke. His videos are awful and he can’t drive for shit.
I love how 90% of this video can be skipped. I can only imagine how much they spent on this
By the way, you shoud compare Elantra N (8-speed DCT) with others because it is faster in tracks and cheaper than others. The Elantra N can make a U-turn with only 3 wheels. Every comparisons between manual transmission cars were dependent on people and unreliable. Some comparisons may be evil intentions. Elantra N (8-speed DCT) which is easy to drive faster than Elantra N (6-speed MT). For examples of 0-100km/h times, Elantra N (8-speed DCT)~ 5.3sec, GR Corolla ~5.3sec, Civic Type R~5.4sec, Subaru(MT)~6.1sec, Elantra N(MT)~5.?sec. This video reminds me of Dieselgate. The Elantra N (8-speed DCT) is no match for the 240-hp Golf GTI. Elantra N (8-speed DCT) is faster in U-Drag even compared to Golf R.
Why didn't this video feature the leaderboard of times like it did when they did the EN vs the Wrx? It did a 37.6 which was faster than both times in this video. What happened?
This is the right answer. I'm obviously biased, but this race is botched big time.
I have a 2017 GTiS and a 22 Veloster N. Both so so fun to drive. I drive my Kona Ultimate turbo most of the time for daily and my 2021 Stinger GT 1 just seems mundane
I dont think you have enough cars bro....Only four?
I can’t believe,as stated in the owners manual you are required to manually octane learn the N to give full power every damn fill up by driving it for 5 mins at near 70 or pressing the throttle in on off pattern at lower gears for a set time or it pegs it to 15 psi! Once it knows it’s on premium you get 4psi more before NGS overboost. As a GTI fan I’ve learned a fair amount about the N from the owners and it is definitely a good car.
I have too but the octane learning is pathetic. I've been on the forums and many owners are literally STUCK in the lower horsepower mode and therefore have their car gimped, it's a joke.
It's super finicky and does not just "work for 5 minutes" from the videos I've seen from owners and comments. Really sad Hyundai did that, GTI is just get in and drive.
That as tested price is completely wrong for the gti. That looks like the autobahn trim which is closer to $40,000. Base trim doesn’t come with those wheels and headlights.
Pro drivers from Edmunds, one couldn't get the right gear on the way out of the corner, and the other couldn't get the launch control working properly. WELL DONE 👍👍
Bro it’s a Hyundai what you can’t ask for more .
Elantra N is quicker in the 1/4 and stops shorter but these two "drivers" manage to lose the drag race or get yoinked in the brake zone? Seems legit.
Just felt like they aren't doing their best when in Elantra N. The lap time for EN was much smaller.
clearly they want to show the GTI is better. Nothing to see here.
Was Elantra Octane Learned?
Better Host, better driver. Good stuff.
I put no stock into a drag race tbh. It means nothing. I would never drag race. I want to see how they handle on a road course.
What tires are on the gti!? Let's go!
I am shocked it was that close after the difference in your auto cross comparison
They put real tires on the GTI to make it apples to apples. Otherwise the Elantra N has the BEST street tires(pilots sport 4s) and the GTI has trash all seasons
Could be octane learning. Without following the procedure to octane learn as outlined in the manual the Elantra N traps about 5mph less in the 1/4 mile and loses quite a bit of tq/hp
U-drags are the best. I still take the Elantra N, just for climate control buttons.
I wouldn't, interior is less upscale many hard plastics, the ride is much stiffer and the NVH is much worse because it's based on a $21K Hyundai Elantra.
What about racing without using all of the enhancing gadgets?
Elantra N, but the stick. Not the DCT. Actually, wondering if maybe the 6 manual might not have faired a little better with more control of the throttle/gearing on the corner.
No the manual is absolutely slower lmfaoo
It also has less power, the DCT Elantra N has 10-20 more WHP then the manual.
@@roboticvenom1935 Yes, this I know. But a lot can be gained by throttle control through turns and learning the power curve (lower center of gravity and lighter without the sunroof weight)…And just a little engine mapping with the money saved by getting the manual? Could be a better performer on a track than the DCT.
@@riccitone you can do throttle control on a DCT too.. and if you map the engine on DCT as well there's still a horsepower and torque disparity, the manual is not super strong on the elantra N, ported from the genesis 6 speed.
@@roboticvenom1935 I just believe that with the right approach, the manual would fair just as well as the DCT on a track (albeit not so on a dig). And some are still getting great numbers on the manual despite that power disparity. But overall, I’m just speaking out of preference. I just love driving a stick, any day, all day. So my bias is screaming 🙏🏼
@@riccitone it can't though, I'm sorry it's not the 2000's but the manual is objectively slower and cannot keep up at all. The DCT literally has two extra gears which mean superior gear ratios, and on top of that it shifts way faster, and on top of that you can focus more on the track, and on top[ of that since it's a dual clutch you lose ZERO boost in between shifts, with a manual you lose boost every shift..
Very surprised to see the VW Golf GTI winning, I wasn't expecting that to happen😳
I really doubt there's much of a horsepower deficit here at all. VW and the other German auto-makers have been using WHP numbers for a long time now, vs crank HP in the N. That "241" is probably closer to 275 or a little more at the crank.
How did the Elantra N go a full second slower than in the WRX video? Feel like some shenanigans are at play… New GTI is nowhere near as fast in a straight line or around a track as the Elantra
Not the same day , not the same track, there is no conspiracy here.
U-drags is the best idea ever. I would choose the GTI. Seems like it is more refined and I love hatchbacks.
I can’t believe you have to as stated in the owners manual you are required to manually octane learn the N to give full power every damn fill up by driving it for 5 mins at near 70 or pressing the throttle in on off pattern at lower gears for a set time or it pegs it to 15 psi! Once it knows it’s on premium you get 4psi more before NGS overboost. As a GTI fan I’ve learned a fair amount about the N from the owners and it is definitely a good car.
Weird that I can't find anyone else who somehow shows a GTI beating an Elantra N. It always seems to be the other way around.
Because this is the most realistic car racing test - Not a drag race for a quarter mile - that’s a drag race not street conditions
savagegeese also had the same outcome
@@neekjp link please
GTI never beat n performance check UA-cam golf gt vs i30n or check video Sam he race Elantra n vs golf r and golf lose around the world n performance best stability flat sound top of any fake gt or put track corner turns see what can do n performance this golf can't compare vs n performance.
@@unexplainedwearenotalone3537 sam has the worst videos on the internet. watch savage geese 10x more reputable.
This type of drag race is a more precise way to measure a car's overall performance than a 1/4 mile. I'm not a fan of VWs but I am surprised by this outcome. The Elantra N is supposedly in the same league as a Type R (lol).
Well it is competing with the type R. The first race you can see that the GTI driver dove in on the braking, getting him the win. The second race the EN driver didnt even launch the car properly.
These races are a lot of fun and valuable. But dont overlook the clear mistake that he admitted to, which lead to a loss in the second race. And the possibility that he was a better driver at braking in the first race, leading to a win.
If it was precise as you say it is, the cars would be the same gap from each other every time. One race each in a car then switching to an entirely different car is not precise lol. Precise is on a track with several warm up laps, then a hot one to set the time.
@@noodles9345 Didn't say it's the most precise, but it sheds much more info than a 1/4 mile race. Hot laps around demanding tracks are best.
Ivan the GTI will put performance the type R in this race and the yaris GR will outperform the gti in this race too... if that launch is done right in the second race the EN wins and we got to a tie breaker... it is closely matched... but you put them on a track then u will see why the N is a better car and close to the type R
@@noodles9345 get over it, the GTI outperformed it on other channels as well. Not a surprise anymore.
@@g_p_3431 There are videos of ENs beating type Rs but we know the R is better. Im looking at the numbers and whats presented in the video. The driver of the car says outloud that he didnt launch the EN properly. How does driver error equate to "the other car is better"? Gtf outta here, rewatch the video.
I hate to say this, but this would be a better test if the cars were kept between cones during the turn around. There is too much variance on the path that be taken, thus results will be inconclusive.
And also..."Launch control didn't work...oh well the VW won!" WTF not a fair race.
I would love to see an owner of both these vehicles run their cars doing the same race. There will be no biased and they will try their hardest to win.
Something was amiss, the elantra n was a full 2 sec slower in this race vs its time of 36.5 against the wrx. Hard to tell with press cars, the brakes could have been glazed and the tires could have been dead after an interesting week with savagegeese. Lol
In the U drag race with the wrx the elantra n did a 37.6 pass
People love to slag VW for its alleged reliability issues, although I've had six from the Mk1 all the way through the Mk6 and none of them were money pits. People just hate the fact that they're as popular as they are and when you're on top you're a target. But as good as the Koreans are getting, they've yet to truly trump these hyper Golfs. The all around space/utility, comfort, interior quality and materials and (yes, you do have to push them now...) - the potential for serious giggles when driven with gusto. They simply tick every box and this is why they are the benchmark. Are they perfect? Hell no. Are they the fastest car from light to light. Nope. The best fuel economy of any hot hatch? I'd say not. But they simply do everything so well, it's pretty much the only car you need.
Not to mention that the Germans are notoriously famous for underrating their actual horsepower numbers. If the difference in these two cars was as the numbers show, this shouldn't have been the outcome. Even the base GTI, especially with the DSG, is pretty damn quick. The R is almost stupid for the segment.
The only really kink is that mk8 infotainment. They definitely went backwards there
They just arent as sharp as the N and the haptic buttons and lack of tuning and volume knobs is unforgiveable.
These gti owners don’t want to accept the Gti ran a slower time than the WRX and the EN ran a full second faster in the race than the Gti based off its best time during the WRX video LOL
The driver of N did not launch it properly. You need to tap the gas pedal rather than floor it.
we all know the elantra N is faster ..
@@tenkayruanaya2554 it is but not that much. Both are great but I wouldnt buy either.
huh? you definitely do need to floor it quickly, and if not quickly enough, it doesn't go into launch mode. This is as per both the owner's manual and instructional video from H
No you don’t tap the gas, you mash down hard on the break then mash the accelerator all the way down. If it doesn’t initiate let off the gas then mash again, but quickly. I have an EN fyi
1/4 mile, maximum g-force, and a rolling race review in less than a minute. Could probably be very popular on TikTok😂
Classic drivers being the decider, not the cars.
No contest…boy racer vs refined machine ✌️
Idk but i think something off on the N. I’m pretty sure it’s quicker than the gti
Wow... this is the best drag race..
Did you guys have the strip rented for like 30 minutes? Let’s do a proper race/redo with launch control and some run averages.
elantra > type r > gti > elantra? well that's confusing...
Elantra-ception.
NGS lasts 20s right? May as well get the full duration and use it early in my opinion.
But I’m happy the golf took it. I own an 8R :)
Haha, they used it the smartest way possible for this race. If they used it on the opening leg then they would have to brake earlier than without it, and that would be a problem since they both believed that the GTi was better under the braking portion of the race. (btw, sweet choice of car haha I own a mk7.5 R and we have a mk8 GTi in the family too. Both 6spd manuals)
@@Kamukix if it does last 20 seconds, it would be a waste to only use it on the way back. Might have to be on the brakes earlier on the out portion but that still means it’s getting you there faster.
@@ALMX5DP right, unless you're at a deficit to the other car under braking. If one car is 'better' than the other car at braking and you add even more speed to the car with worse braking...then you've now made that car have to brake even sooner and further away than the other car it was already losing to. So yes you had more speed going in which might give you another tenth or two back....but you will likely lose that or more under braking since you were already slightly behind. If you just use that once you hook up coming out of the corner then you have a nice long uninterrupted boost for that 1/4 mile back to the start line. 👍
Also using it early means not only a problem for braking but also a problem for accelerating out of the corner.
@@Kamukix so you’re saying it’s better to have less horsepower on the way out? I can’t see a situation where one would purposefully want to limit power in any racing scenario. And it’s only 10hp so it’s not like it’s going to change the entire dynamic of the car. Use less throttle pedal if you feel you need to modulate but have it there if you want to use it and don’t leave something off the table that could be an advantage.
100% agree with that. The NGS should have been used right after the launch once the car hooked. I don’t take the videos too seriously since these guys don’t own the cars and know the nuances of them. That was completely evident with the second guy not getting launch control to work. You have to quickly floor the accelerator to get it to engage. He probably pushed the gas too slow and that’s why it didn’t work. That alone lost the second race. I’ve never driven a GTI, but as an N owner it’s hard to believe the GTI has better brakes than the N. All the track reviews and just from personally driving an N, the brakes are phenomenal and incredibly strong. But whatevs, they seemed to be trying to prove something and they found a way to do that with some questionable approaches.
My bet? Stick a fork in the GTI, it's done.
If I recall the Hyundai is better in acceleration, braking, and cornering speed.
I am not good at this. Lol
@@roguedogx haha I thought the EXACT same thing when I saw the title. The video totally shook me, then I went and checked the multiple magazine tests to look at some of the acceleration times because I thought the N was significantly quicker and realized I was wrong and they're actually very close to each other. I also forgot about the Savagegeese race when they compared the GTi, N, WRX, and Si...and the GTi beat the N there as well even on its trash tires the GTi came with. (the N crushed it around the full road course but again they mentioned the trash tires the GTi came on and that it would be seconds per lap faster with a real set of tires on it)
I think I keep mentally comparing the N to the mk7 GTi which would be a bigger gap, and on top of that I keep comparing the GTi to the mk7.5 R which is a significant gap. We have both the mk7.5 R and a mk8 GTi so I've got lots of experience in both (manuals, the dual clutches are significantly quicker even). I have thought about buying an N because I think it's an AMAZING car and a great package, but both VW cars are superior daily drivers so it's a toss up especially with pricing and availability lately.
Ya something is off on this Elantra N. On your other U drag video N vs WRX the N did 37.6 sec... hmmm🤔🤔.
All those other videos of N gapping the gti is false ..THIS Is how it goes down
GTI fanboy but own a Hyundai so it’s tough but I’d go with the MK8. I had a Mk7.5 till I got in an accident. GTI always punches above its weight class! 👍🏻
As a owner of a 40th anniversary edition Mark 8 the DCCC and the way the car is programmed because everything works together the braking system suspension the engine transmission they all talk to each other to make this a very different type of car. 4 UA-camr like Savage geese call this one of the best front-wheel drive cars he's ever driven is a high-water Mark that car
LOL He really did a Fast & Furious "save the spray for the return" in using the "N" boost button lol
Can't win them all.
Either the GTI's HP is underrated or NGS wasn't used properly. Either way, 1-1 for the Elantra N. As long as the Elantra N defeated the WRX, that is good enough.
If this GTI vs Elantra N had a rematch manual vs manual, the Elantra N would probably be 2-0.