@@MichaelM28 Michael I'm pretty sure your A troll but in the event your not. Molly seems to know this, I'm not sure you need to rub it in. We need people like molly to speak up, and you saying this after molly said Rowling was right isnt A good way to get them to speak up. On the other hand maybe you are an sjw trolling because you know this.
@Gentleman Four Trans women are actual women. Cis women are actual women. Your definitions are outdated and you need to educate yourself, because that isn't our job.
I disagree. She supports trans rights, but simply states a fact that if you transition, your biological cellular structure, and DNA, remains that of your birth sex. It doesn't follow that she hates anyone or refuses to acknowledge you. Quite the contrary.
@Unholygrail I am doctoral candidate in Biological sciences. I can attest to the statement that sex is determined by our chromosomes and DNA. You say that sex is a spectrum and that taking hormone can make people become the opposite sex, where do you think the hormone comes from? People literally take hormones which are made by male or female bodies. Where does spectrum come in sex?
Only women menstruate and even if some women with medical conditions don't, that does not therefore mean that men menstruate. It is disingenuous to say so. Good on JKR for continuing to stand up on this matter.
It's said that the UK has no manufacturing. That is wrong. It is the world leader in manufacturing offence. It is an industry that needs a recession ASAP.
@@strangelittlegirl I wonder if you could explain to all the people you keep saying need educating what is the difference between trans and autogynophilia. We would be very interested to hear your views.
Grateful to Debbie to make the point clear. However reason alone should be sufficient to know she said nothing wrong and insult no one. We can't continue to create social restriction because someone somehow and somewhere feels insulted, we must find a common set of values to agree upon or it all goes to madness.
I'm not a fan of HP. But what in the name of God is going on!!??. 1 thing I know, my mum had me,therefore she is a woman, my dad didn't do a great deal BUT my mum couldn't do it without so his input makes him a man !. The people who are now famous because of her books should be ashamed of themselves!.
Most people were perfectly happy to go along with being Kind to people such as Debbie, even using female pronouns etc. The problem started when it was decided that we had to apply the same to four fifths of the membership of Fet-Life.
A woman as financially independent as JK Rowling cannot be canceled where as many who are not financial independent will have that fear of losing their careers only the very brave will speak the truth.
I defend anyone to be free to there own opinion, just so happens that JKR has the same opinion. And please don’t try telling me I am wrong or that I need to follow the trans ideology, they can shut up and stop it. I am a male transsexual woman and couldn’t care less so get over it
@@seanothepop4638 It's biology. Go ask any scientist in the biological field and they can give you a clear definition of what each sex is. (oversimplified: male = sperm producing organism, female = egg producing organism). So no matter what a person identifies as they cannot change their sex. Full stop. A person can identify or feel like a woman (THE GENDER which is NOT biological sex). One can debate what that means, as that is a social construct - what does it mean to be a woman? How do woman act as opposed to how men act? These are gender questions. And as far as I know, mentally, there is no definition (ie. I reject the notion of gender itself and hope society sheds that nonsense). But identifying as a woman does NOT change your biological sex from male to female. I think too many people conflate biology and gender.
Transgenda in all forms is allowed, but altering livestock is outlawed, ? Altering crops for food is outlawed,...? I get people want to believe and experience things... Can I as someone that does not understand ask is this like tattoo mania disfiguring another fad, ? I just don't get it.
Ролинг это псевдо писатель, которая списала роман с документов в архиве. Это не ее роман, а авторов рукописей. Ролинг не автор Гарри Поттера, она не писала этот роман, она его скопировала с архивных книг.
people all want to be understood but since words are expressed in bits and pieces and long articles seem to be addressed as 'lengthy and middle-aged' by the ubiquitous and penetrative media, this debate is going nowhere.
I know two transgender "women", both good friends (despite what they became) but the whole point is that, allegedly, in our society you are supposed to be and do whatever you want, as long as it is consensual, in private, and does not involve minors or animals. The two I know both transitioned for reasons other than believing they were women in a man's body.
@@strangelittlegirl Thats always been the problem. When a person speaks in line with you, will praise him/her like they are official representative of your community and when someone speaks up against you you will dedicate the remaining years of your life hating them as if their points are nonsensical at all. Sure many people who hate you are saying ridiculous things, but there are those who speak abt facts and personal experiences as well and you cant just dismissed the label them homophobs/transphob etc. Rowlings points were backed by research and personal experiences , if you wish to dispute her you should do your own research too.
Lets all just relax. We're just people. We're usually very kind, but loke all large groups we have jerks, lovely girls, brilliant, not so smart, lovers, haters, aithiasts, pius, supporters, haters.but nearly all of us agree: respect the law and ALL other peoples rights. Love Tina, XXOO
The “people claiming they’re trans to go into women only spaces” argument is so silly You don’t need to claim you’re trans to enter that space. And even if you did, it isn’t the trans women that you’re afraid of, it’s the cis men. That has nothing to do with trans people
True but isn't it the right of a biological women to feel as though their safe spaces are being encrouched upon? It's one thing to be a trans women but another to be a Cis male claiming to be one. It's come to a point where that distnction is blurred when all it takes is for a male to say so.
I've been trans for 50 years and JKR is completely correct.
You're a man and always will be!
You're not a real women!
@@MichaelM28 Michael I'm pretty sure your A troll but in the event your not. Molly seems to know this, I'm not sure you need to rub it in. We need people like molly to speak up, and you saying this after molly said Rowling was right isnt A good way to get them to speak up. On the other hand maybe you are an sjw trolling because you know this.
@@strangelittlegirl
"...the obvious fact that there are trans men who menstruate..."
Thank you for the best laugh of the day.
@@strangelittlegirl
Thank you. Compliment happily accepted. :)
Attacked for stating a biological fact..
Nope. Attacked for transphobia.
Trans women are WOMEN.
Trans men are MEN.
Sam Maher no they’re not!
@Rudiger Glique No, that's not true. Some men menstruate as well.
@Gentleman Four Trans women are actual women. Cis women are actual women.
Your definitions are outdated and you need to educate yourself, because that isn't our job.
@Gentleman Four The existence and validity of trans people isn't a game.
Just because you want something to be a universal truth, doesn't mean it is.
Rowling is correct, and the way she's being treated is a disgrace.
I disagree. She supports trans rights, but simply states a fact that if you transition, your biological cellular structure, and DNA, remains that of your birth sex.
It doesn't follow that she hates anyone or refuses to acknowledge you. Quite the contrary.
Truth is not objective, stupid
@Unholygrail I am doctoral candidate in Biological sciences. I can attest to the statement that sex is determined by our chromosomes and DNA. You say that sex is a spectrum and that taking hormone can make people become the opposite sex, where do you think the hormone comes from? People literally take hormones which are made by male or female bodies. Where does spectrum come in sex?
Only women menstruate and even if some women with medical conditions don't, that does not therefore mean that men menstruate. It is disingenuous to say so. Good on JKR for continuing to stand up on this matter.
I agree with JK Rowling! Shame on her Potter Actors.
Yep....any future spin offs or films based on her books, if I was her I’d tell them not to even bother auditioning....ungrateful little nobheads!
She gave them a chance to rise to popularity, and they gave her a slap in her face!
Except for Robbie Coltrane and Ralph Fiennes
I love these sane trans individuals. Intersectional ideology is the poison not the individuals afflicted with it.
Congratulations Transgender activists. I am now a fully fledged transphobe.
@@seanothepop4638 lol the irony
It's said that the UK has no manufacturing. That is wrong. It is the world leader in manufacturing offence. It is an industry that needs a recession ASAP.
The US is a bigger manufacturer of that particular product. Identity politics in the western world were born there.
Can’t believe I live in a time where I actually agree with / defend JK Rowling.
2020 is indeed full of surprises.
Me, you and thousands of others!
Exactly, but even when I disagreed with her I never felt the need to burn her books or verbally abuse her!
Enough already with the ravings of minority Biologyphobes
I'm trans, and I know that she's not transphobic. I've been attacked for defending J.K. Rowling.
@@strangelittlegirl I wonder if you could explain to all the people you keep saying need educating what is the difference between trans and autogynophilia. We would be very interested to hear your views.
@@strangelittlegirl Allow children to grow up and make up their own minds.
@@strangelittlegirl funny how you can criticize whoever you like, but when someone does it to you people they are written off as bigoted transphobes.
@@strangelittlegirl you are a confused and hyper aggressive individual. Typical far left aggressor .. you can give it out but you can’t take it..
JKR is right on this, harry potter is wrong.
It's the first time I've backed Rowling
Grateful to Debbie to make the point clear. However reason alone should be sufficient to know she said nothing wrong and insult no one.
We can't continue to create social restriction because someone somehow and somewhere feels insulted, we must find a common set of values to agree upon or it all goes to madness.
@@strangelittlegirl the problem is what criteria do you propose to identify the true values.
Great work Debbie.
I'm not a fan of HP. But what in the name of God is going on!!??. 1 thing I know, my mum had me,therefore she is a woman, my dad didn't do a great deal BUT my mum couldn't do it without so his input makes him a man !. The people who are now famous because of her books should be ashamed of themselves!.
Remember when common-sense wasn't controversial?
@@strangelittlegirl where have I heard something similar before? Stalin or Mao...
Thanks Debbie, your cogent and pragmatic dialogue was very enlightening!
Who would you back, JK Rowling or those complaining about her actions?
Jk is right but I wouldn't back her in anything. The complainers should be the ones criticised for misgendering and hate speech
@Daughter of Enoch
Why's that?
I will back whoever is winning, and change sides if needed.
I really don't care. This is all irrelevant to me now.
JK Rowling is absolutely right with her statements!
I back her 100%
Your contributor talks so much sense.
No mention of the Burnley banner in your shows. Sad.
Mopantsu so?
@@JohnSmith-mm1oi It's big news
Because they think it’s offensive
Loved the Burnley Banner it was great
Nothing offensive or racist about it
White Lives Matter
wow.............a really nice and sensible conversation about this subject.
"Telling Everybody Real Facts"!!! 🙂
Most people were perfectly happy to go along with being Kind to people such as Debbie, even using female pronouns etc. The problem started when it was decided that we had to apply the same to four fifths of the membership of Fet-Life.
BTW you don't need to be sexually assaulted to have a valid opinion.
Amazing and refreshing interview.
Words are not reality.
A woman as financially independent as JK Rowling cannot be canceled where as many who are not financial independent will have that fear of losing their careers only the very brave will speak the truth.
It true, but we can all live together “ unless any group decides otherwise.
I defend anyone to be free to there own opinion, just so happens that JKR has the same opinion. And please don’t try telling me I am wrong or that I need to follow the trans ideology, they can shut up and stop it. I am a male transsexual woman and couldn’t care less so get over it
People just need to leave her alone. She hasn't said anything wrong
She's quite right. Reeeee
Thank you, well said Debbie.
Harry Potter author v 4 total nobodies, you decide...
Putting it into perspective, a writer of fiction vs believers of fiction. I decided a long time ago. Have a very good day.
👍thanks for posting
Personally, I think she's wrong, but people are allowed to have an opinion. As a trans person, I think It's ridiculous that everyone is attacking her.
You're not a man and never will be!
@@MichaelM28 That's good because I'm a gal.
@@seanothepop4638 It's biology. Go ask any scientist in the biological field and they can give you a clear definition of what each sex is. (oversimplified: male = sperm producing organism, female = egg producing organism). So no matter what a person identifies as they cannot change their sex. Full stop.
A person can identify or feel like a woman (THE GENDER which is NOT biological sex). One can debate what that means, as that is a social construct - what does it mean to be a woman? How do woman act as opposed to how men act? These are gender questions. And as far as I know, mentally, there is no definition (ie. I reject the notion of gender itself and hope society sheds that nonsense).
But identifying as a woman does NOT change your biological sex from male to female. I think too many people conflate biology and gender.
Exactly! The old Darwin Vs Church battle all over again.
Transgenda in all forms is allowed, but altering livestock is outlawed, ? Altering crops for food is outlawed,...?
I get people want to believe and experience things...
Can I as someone that does not understand ask is this like tattoo mania disfiguring another fad, ?
I just don't get it.
Fascism always finds a way.
This is socialism, not Fascism.
@@WildMorgan Same thing.
Who would have thought it comes with a rainbow flag.
Since when did they allow reasonable and sensible views on the radio?
Ролинг это псевдо писатель, которая списала роман с документов в архиве. Это не ее роман, а авторов рукописей. Ролинг не автор Гарри Поттера, она не писала этот роман, она его скопировала с архивных книг.
She is transphobic and so?! This is not a crime.
Disagreeing a point doesn't make you a phobic of anything.
She’s written one of the most well-regarded book series in history, I should bloody well hope she can manage a 3k essay. 🤔 weird note to start on.
I really think 'people' do not understand what the word 'right' means in this context. Because you shout your opinion doesn't actually mean anything.
people all want to be understood but since words are expressed in bits and pieces and long articles seem to be addressed as 'lengthy and middle-aged' by the ubiquitous and penetrative media, this debate is going nowhere.
How strange that she was allowed to transition. Calls herself. ‘Debbie’ but considers herself male
I know two transgender "women", both good friends (despite what they became) but the whole point is that, allegedly, in our society you are supposed to be and do whatever you want, as long as it is consensual, in private, and does not involve minors or animals. The two I know both transitioned for reasons other than believing they were women in a man's body.
@@strangelittlegirl I’d listen to her far far more than you little transtrender confused child ... shush and let actual adults speak
@@strangelittlegirl Thats always been the problem. When a person speaks in line with you, will praise him/her like they are official representative of your community and when someone speaks up against you you will dedicate the remaining years of your life hating them as if their points are nonsensical at all. Sure many people who hate you are saying ridiculous things, but there are those who speak abt facts and personal experiences as well and you cant just dismissed the label them homophobs/transphob etc. Rowlings points were backed by research and personal experiences , if you wish to dispute her you should do your own research too.
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Rowling helped create this problem with her feminist drivel, I am enjoying this very much. I hope she has a terrible time.
What ever happened to that John Lennon song only women bleed?
Alice Cooper?
That would be his first wife, allegedly...
@@coolmacatrain9434 Correct. Beautiful song, not suitable for transgenders though.
How can we have FREE SPEECH in a FREE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY
Who cares🙄🙄
Lets all just relax. We're just people. We're usually very kind, but loke all large groups we have jerks, lovely girls, brilliant, not so smart, lovers, haters, aithiasts, pius, supporters, haters.but nearly all of us agree: respect the law and ALL other peoples rights.
Love Tina, XXOO
The “people claiming they’re trans to go into women only spaces” argument is so silly
You don’t need to claim you’re trans to enter that space. And even if you did, it isn’t the trans women that you’re afraid of, it’s the cis men. That has nothing to do with trans people
True but isn't it the right of a biological women to feel as though their safe spaces are being encrouched upon? It's one thing to be a trans women but another to be a Cis male claiming to be one. It's come to a point where that distnction is blurred when all it takes is for a male to say so.