Kingdom Hearts 2 - Story Explained

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @Juli0P12
    @Juli0P12 2 роки тому +144

    "After all...who could love a man?" is my absolute favorite line from this video series, Chase is an absolute genius for rolling with that Beast -> Man joke

  • @Derglesnaf
    @Derglesnaf Рік тому +52

    “Roxas has a consistently bad time” that’s a nice way of putting it.

  • @JohnnyKaloaNichols
    @JohnnyKaloaNichols Рік тому +33

    2:03:30 Technically in Xehanort’s name, if you take the X out and rearrange the letters, it spells “No Heart”

  • @zagged2474
    @zagged2474 Рік тому +88

    “Get fucked” might be the most iconic part of lore dump

    • @madsschmidt5225
      @madsschmidt5225 Рік тому

      Fuzzy to fu Izzy so i cost safe u eye Carter food I try x I u criticized codification guy ugly z studio tr C coconuts z a t as x

    • @superflaffers
      @superflaffers 7 місяців тому +5

      48:07 timestamp for my own benefit as much as anyone else’s

  • @Leonfei
    @Leonfei Рік тому +31

    Fairly sure I posted something like this under the original video, but the whole thing about Kairi forgetting Sora's name gets lost in translation somewhat. In Japanese, Sora means sky, so rather than telling Kairi his name starts with S, I believe the "clue" is related to that instead. That's also why the letter she writes jogs Kairi's memory in the way it does. The letter says "one sky, one destiny". It's the word sky that reminds Kairi of Sora's name.

    • @rngwrldngnr
      @rngwrldngnr 10 місяців тому +1

      Missed opportunity for the translator to add in a metaphor about soaring. 😛

  • @KodasGarden
    @KodasGarden Рік тому +25

    My favorite scene with Demyx is when Sora first meets him and it's just
    Demyx: "Hmm let's see here." *checks book* "Roxas?"
    Sora: "Excuse me?"
    The way Sora says it is so funny to me because he sounds so confused and already fed up with Demyx 😂

  • @elyaequestus1409
    @elyaequestus1409 2 роки тому +24

    1:08 the 'oh fuck, ok, jesus christ, I am terrified' is permently recorded in my mind.
    Thank you. This line has come to use more than several times.

  • @SPIKEYROXAS
    @SPIKEYROXAS Рік тому +10

    Oathkeeper represents soras connection to kairi and light
    And oblivion represents riku and darkness
    You unlock these keyblades through standard progression again.
    Only on kh3 are they post game unlocks
    Also the way kairi gets to destiny islands is kinda briefly explained in bbs. And i guess the method which led to it is explained in MoM

  • @LoreDump
    @LoreDump  2 роки тому +24

    *DISCLAIMER*
    Thanks for being here! This episode is a reupload, transferring our backlog of Lore Dumps from the Monty Zander youtube channel.

  • @ablooha
    @ablooha Рік тому +47

    Idk if anyone's gonna read this, but my birthday is today and I presented my own Kingdom Hearts lecture today to my pals. I condensed all of the games into 365 PowerPoint slides, but only made it through the first 3 games. REGARDLESS, we're doing the rest in the coming weeks, and I have to thank this series for getting me through the script writing process ((:

  • @lizabee484
    @lizabee484 Рік тому +17

    2:21:33
    God I need Neil’s response to “you ok?” as a reaction gif. Because that is a solid MOOD for me a great deal of the time. Especially whenever I’ve had a particularly rough night, insomnia-wise. ^_^;

  • @survivordave
    @survivordave 4 місяці тому +3

    2:59:19 So re:Coded is "re:" because KH Coded was a Japan-only mobile game released in 8 episodes from late 2008-early 2010. re:Coded is the enhanced DS port.

  • @NightWorldWorshipper
    @NightWorldWorshipper Рік тому +17

    I find it a bit funny how he keeps calling Struggle "Strife."

    • @survivordave
      @survivordave Місяць тому

      He must have ordered his Struggle equipment from Temu

  • @jakebailey5834
    @jakebailey5834 Рік тому +6

    Chase you are talking about Kingdom hearts 3! You get Oathkeeper after finding and taking pics of all Hidden Mickeys and you get Oblivion by beating KH3 on Critical Mode.

  • @StormCrownSr
    @StormCrownSr Рік тому +12

    I know it's been 5 months, but I can actually correct something and maybe reveal something to you.
    Sora starts off (release wise) the series as a 14 year old. And with each numbered release, he ages 1 year. 15 in 2, 16 in 3.

    • @olivernielsen2211
      @olivernielsen2211 Рік тому +3

      Numora himself has gone on record multiple times now and stated that Sora is still 15 in KH3
      KH2 and KH3 is at most a few months apart.

    • @StormCrownSr
      @StormCrownSr Рік тому +2

      @@olivernielsen2211 Could you link me something on that? Because most places I've seen, he's been reported as 16 in 3.

    • @strawberrymango8655
      @strawberrymango8655 10 місяців тому +1

      @@StormCrownSr Nomura has said that 2 and 3 take place during the same summer, though i can't find a direct source cause its from translations. Also the KH3 Ultimania book lists what age he was during different games and they list KH3 as being while he is 15.

  • @Kuronosa
    @Kuronosa Рік тому +5

    It is to my underatanding, that the original Coded was a Japan-only Phone Game, that was then re-worked into a DS title for Re:Coded.

  • @patrickhayes8761
    @patrickhayes8761 Рік тому +6

    Always Down to Duck with more Lore Dump

  • @spitefulwinter
    @spitefulwinter Рік тому +3

    I havent played a kh game in like 3 years but I remember trama from going against the dancer nobodies and some of the tron heartless in critical mode

  • @nathangaspar4989
    @nathangaspar4989 Рік тому +10

    1:54:49
    The only one of the Ansem Reports in KH1 to be written by Ansem was the first one. The rest were written by Xehanort under Ansem’s name in an attempt to frame him.

  • @ralfsstuff
    @ralfsstuff 6 місяців тому +2

    My re:Coded cartridge just died a while ago and a small part of me died with it.
    It had its problems, but goddamn I loved that game

  • @metroguevania
    @metroguevania 2 роки тому +21

    Props to Neal and Monty for keeping up

    • @elyaequestus1409
      @elyaequestus1409 2 роки тому +3

      The 'Get Fucked' line was absolutely and utterly delivered in such a sincere way. It is awesome.

  • @SD_Koy
    @SD_Koy Рік тому +5

    Monty is very much not alone there lmao, Roxas is beloved.

  • @Senfree
    @Senfree Рік тому +3

    1:56:00 ish. Technically, the Nobody does call himself Ansem, because Xemnas is an anagram of Ansem with an X tossed in, so that's not quite true.
    Also, if you take the X out of Xehanort's name, you get NoHeart.

  • @Senfree
    @Senfree Рік тому +8

    So, I realized why Hayner thinks Sora is familiar, even though Roxas knew data Hayner.
    The program DiZ made is from heart data, and hearts are connected, like how Namine changing Sora's heart memory changed everyone's memory of him.
    Because Roxas was friends with Hayner's heart data, Hayner's heart knew Roxas.

  • @Sumguyinavan_
    @Sumguyinavan_ 2 роки тому +6

    Not as much changes with KH2 knowing the identity of a certain individual. I thought there would be scenes where we didn't know why he was doing a thing, but would make more sense with hindsight, but surprisingly not. So its hard to know how much they actually know about their own past, or if it was just so far not figured out yet by the writer that no breadcrumbs were left.

  • @Keaton_Ambrose
    @Keaton_Ambrose Рік тому +4

    Coded originally came out on Japanese flip phones, not DS, that's why the DS version is re:

    • @ralfsstuff
      @ralfsstuff 5 місяців тому +2

      Weird Chase didn't know that. Pretty sure he also believed the remix subtitle belongs to the PS3 remakes instead of the japanese only PS2 "definitive editions".
      I also vaguely remember him not knowing that Re:Chain of Memories was a PS2 remake already. Because he, like many others, complained about CoM getting a playable HD version while 358/2 didn't.
      Much easier to port an old, already PS2, game.
      If it was just the GBA title it wouldn't have been playable in 1.5.

  • @TehAdmireOG
    @TehAdmireOG 2 роки тому +11

    Xehanort without the X ='s No Heart
    Also, Eraqus ='s Square (:

    • @Sumguyinavan_
      @Sumguyinavan_ 2 роки тому +9

      It is also" Another"

    • @TehAdmireOG
      @TehAdmireOG 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sumguyinavan_ never noticed that one!

  • @novuspatriarch
    @novuspatriarch Рік тому +4

    Three other randos on Destiny Islands are all Final Fantasy characters. Bugged me so I had to say it.

  • @Ultratistic
    @Ultratistic Рік тому +1

    At 1:55:09 chase says it was Ansem the wise that did the experiments and all the bad shit, but it was actually xehanort after he took ansem's name

  • @ThatKid7718
    @ThatKid7718 Рік тому +2

    Coded came out on mobile phones before touch screens and iPhone were common

  • @jonathanarp3040
    @jonathanarp3040 Рік тому +2

    Coded was originally released in segments as a mobile game, but only for T Mobile customers. It was like a Blackberry, flip phone situation

  • @jakebailey5834
    @jakebailey5834 Рік тому +4

    1:21:14 ''After all....who could love a Man?''

  • @ozwell1088
    @ozwell1088 Рік тому +7

    I actually do want Lore Dump: Danganronpa.

  • @Senfree
    @Senfree Рік тому +1

    Being in the realm of darkness would put you out of balance, that's why the negativity happens, to have balance, you need both light and darkness, to answer the DiZ question.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 3 місяці тому +2

    1:24:28 The Heartless of Winnie the Pooh would just be the Blood and Honey version.

  • @laneedon1998
    @laneedon1998 Рік тому +2

    When I was a young child this was the reason i was unable to beat this game. He’s 10x harder than he was previously 1:59:44

  • @NymphieJP
    @NymphieJP Місяць тому

    Hearing struggle being called strife was hard lol

  • @jaymeshill9063
    @jaymeshill9063 6 місяців тому +2

    Sora killed Nobody.

  • @creecher1118
    @creecher1118 Рік тому +1

    I really hope Monty covers these games on his main.

  • @lazypaladin
    @lazypaladin Рік тому +4

    _Kingdom Hearts II: _*_Goofy F'kn Dies_*

  • @piefish1000
    @piefish1000 5 місяців тому

    As someone who originally also missed the Lion King world on their first playthrough it is totally optional lol

  • @lunarboundwhale
    @lunarboundwhale 8 місяців тому +1

    Part of me, if the lads ever get a PO box, wants to knit some DOGSTREET gear 🤣

  • @fredranzalot4849
    @fredranzalot4849 Рік тому +4

    Wait, this just occurred to me! Is Winnie the Pooh technically a data world?

    • @Mike_Dubo
      @Mike_Dubo Рік тому +1

      Had the same thought as well.

  • @scotthood8372
    @scotthood8372 Рік тому

    You get oathkeeper in twilight town and oblivion in the world that never was.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 3 місяці тому

    48:26 Roxas and Riku are both better developed characters than Sora. They also react naturally and realistically to situations and have feelings beyond constant happiness.

  • @calemr
    @calemr Рік тому +2

    Well, I got a fuck you from Monty today.
    I think KH isn't that confusing IF it were explained in ACTUAL chronological order by someone who just doesn't truck with any of the twists or lies.
    Just straight up "So this is Xehanort's heartless. He says he's Ansem, he's not.", which wouldn't come up for fuckin' ages because KH1 is like the 7th game or something by now.
    But yeah, getting it in game release order, it's a mess.

  • @squirrelwithabanana
    @squirrelwithabanana Рік тому +1

    I love how at 1:48:45 Chase just refers to Tifa as “a black-haired girl” (been meaning to make a corrections thread for this for a while, feel free to add)

    • @squirrelwithabanana
      @squirrelwithabanana Рік тому

      2:55:00 note, the actual apprentices were xemnas (xehanort), xigbar (braig), xaldin (dilan), lexaeus (aeleus), vexen (even), and zexion (ienzo) as mentioned a few minutes earlier. Axel and Saix did not participate in the experiments nor should we know that they were ever apprentices of Ansem the Wise because they only joined shortly before everyone became nobodies

    • @squirrelwithabanana
      @squirrelwithabanana Рік тому

      2:57:00 I do believe melody of memory was out by the original release of this video, that is where kairi’s world traversal is explained

    • @squirrelwithabanana
      @squirrelwithabanana Рік тому

      2:59:00 Coded originally came out on Japanese flip phones (also while I have not played it myself I’ve heard great things about the actual gameplay of re:coded)

  • @numberhunter62
    @numberhunter62 6 місяців тому

    With removing the "X" from Xehanort you actually get Noheart, or No Heart.

  • @nox6687
    @nox6687 2 місяці тому

    "Ansem is Ansem is Ansem." Oh, if only

  • @amusingmoose9924
    @amusingmoose9924 Рік тому +2

    1:24:14 the answer is Xin Jinping

  • @robyhughes91
    @robyhughes91 2 роки тому +9

    I don't know if it was mentioned in a different comment on the original video, but Coded originally came out on mobile devices in Japan. It was then re:released in America on the DS. And it was one of the WORST games in the series. Chase was right that pretty much the only important stuff happens at the end.

    • @ukyoize
      @ukyoize Рік тому +1

      I heard that gameplay wise recoded was neat

    • @robyhughes91
      @robyhughes91 Рік тому +2

      @@ukyoize it's all over the place. One minute you're platforming your way through Traverse Town, then youre running towards the right side of the screen platforming like Megaman fighting the Heartless boss in the same style. Every world had a different gameplay style pretty much. The only one I enjoyed was Hollow Bastion where after playing the game solo, you get Donald and Goofy back. Add in that the command deck and leveling up system is the worst, to me, makes the game feel VERY much a mess. And yes it was a mobile game before getting "remade" or re-released onto the DS, but it really needed more time in the cooker before being put onto the DS.

  • @Merlin_From_Shrek_3
    @Merlin_From_Shrek_3 7 місяців тому

    Which castle do you want maleficent? Yes.

  • @DDTRAINER
    @DDTRAINER 7 місяців тому

    No wonder this was so confusing when I was 9!

  • @StormCrownSr
    @StormCrownSr Рік тому +2

    1:59:02 this was one of the hardest roadblocks during my first playthrough as a kid. Some context.
    I already had KH1, but I got stuck on Clayton and just couldn't be bothered. So this was the first KH game I beat.
    I didn't know about "abilities" the game I believe only tells you about them after beating giant nobody as Roxas and young me was too busy celebrating to take that in.
    Cut to me S T R U G G L I N G with this boss. He was such bullshit. Oh I hated him. He made Clayton appear to be the nothing he really is.
    It was like 10 hours, over many days, into my struggle I somehow doscover the abilities menu. And I remember being confused as to what they were, but oh well, let's just equip everything.
    I beat Demyx on my 2nd try. Goofy's special spin was my saviour. You will never understand my appreciation for that move.
    On another thought if you feel lvl 1 playthroughs are too easy. Play the game as normal and just never equip any abilities. I accidentally discovered the hardest mode as a kid.

  • @scotthood8372
    @scotthood8372 Рік тому +1

    I like listening to these alot, I'm learning alot I never really knew, but man I wish there's been about 10% more research before the dump. For example. Coded was a phone game. Recoded is a cutscene collective.

    • @ShadowReaver573
      @ShadowReaver573 10 місяців тому +2

      Coded was a phone game, Re:Coded is a DS remake, Recoded on the collections is a movie collection.

  • @Sluggii
    @Sluggii 2 місяці тому

    i'm gonna guess the guy doing the explaining doesn't know final mix existed on ps2 in japan

  • @arod1176
    @arod1176 Рік тому

    Is Neil Smoughtown or am I an idiot? Also 🔥🔥🔥 video

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander Рік тому +1

      We’ve had questions like this before about Chase! The answer is no I’m afraid. Neil isn’t Smoughtown and Chase isn’t Flaming Shark - appreciate the comment!

    • @LoreDump
      @LoreDump  Рік тому +2

      I'm ashamed to say that I'd never watched this creator and having now done so, I can totally see why you might think that- Neil

  • @katykohley201
    @katykohley201 Рік тому

    I remember the fuck cart one my brother said his first cuss word at that obe

  • @opinionpaladin6007
    @opinionpaladin6007 Рік тому +1

    Wait. Are yall not doing Re:Coded?

    • @LoreDump
      @LoreDump  Рік тому +5

      Hey! It's on the KH2 video, it's tagged on at the end- Neil

    • @opinionpaladin6007
      @opinionpaladin6007 Рік тому +1

      @Lore Dump thanks for the info. I'm only on the beginning of the KH2 video at the moment. Glad to know our second little data boy didn't get left out.

  • @mischiefcal
    @mischiefcal 10 місяців тому

    37:50 i would be so for this just for their reactions about the one they call the ultimate despair, hiding somewhere in this school

  • @Zapphoman
    @Zapphoman 6 місяців тому

    Yeah Roxas story is Soma levels of effed up

  • @jakebailey5834
    @jakebailey5834 Рік тому

    1:19:53 Man's Castle

  • @whym6438
    @whym6438 Рік тому +1

    "Roxas" is an anagram for "Sora X", and the Nobodies all have x's in their names. Using this, I figured out that Roxas was Sora's Nobody as soon as he was introduced, despite never having played this game.
    1. Before you ask, yes, I do want a cookie for being very smart and figuring that out.
    2. I wonder who Lae/Eal/Ael is/was?

    • @uberfapwashere
      @uberfapwashere 8 місяців тому

      Smart enough to figure that out but still missed the obvious anagram (which is the right one)

  • @nathanvarade5820
    @nathanvarade5820 Рік тому +1

    So should say this now. Even though I’m very late to the party.
    THE Key blade. Is the one that Sora has. The silver and gold one. It’s it’s own special object. Key blade wielders got the ability to make their own key blades from the one Sora has.
    So Sora’s chosen one status doesn’t come from having a key blade it’s because he was chosen by that one. It’s why all the other keyblade wielders all have different looking ones.

  • @MicahLowther
    @MicahLowther 5 місяців тому

    Recodeds story is pretty mid, worst in the franchise. But it's gameplay is the best out of any of the handheld titles before DDD

  • @foolishlyfoolishfolly3209
    @foolishlyfoolishfolly3209 Рік тому

    Roxas game 1!!!! Algorithm boosting comment

  • @johnschicitano9920
    @johnschicitano9920 Рік тому

    Xehanort. Take the “X” out. You get “No heart”