Fujifilm X-S10 - A Practical Comparison with the X-T4 & X-T30
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- I’ve been using the Fuji X-S10 for about a week now and here's a look at how I feel about Fuji's latest camera. This isn’t an in-depth review of all the cameras details and features or a technical break down image quality or a comparison with other cameras. Instead, it’s an overview of how the X-S10 compares with the X-T4 and X-T30 for shooting landscapes and video.
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I've been watching hours upon hours of videos in preparation of buying my first camera. The information in this video was concise, informative, and well layed out. Also, your photo examples frankly blew me away and clearly illustrated your skills in both photography and post production with lightroom. That being said, you're one of two photography/camera channels that I've subscribed to and I look forward to more of your content. Thanks
Thanks so much for the comment David, really glad you found the video useful. Thanks for the sub too.
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Absolutely agree. Is the other one Sean Tucker?
What did you end up going with? I just hail married my first camera and got the xs10 and I couldn't be happier. It's the best starter camera ever.
Which one did you end up going for?
Thanks for the thoughtful review Andy! Just picked this camera up, and loving it so far - your video was very helpful
Thanks so much, really glad it was useful
Love that bridge composition - so simple and minimalist, always with different lighting and feeling. It's becoming an Andy Mumford classic :P
Thanks so much. I was lucky with the conditions
Excellent review and spectacular sample photos! I've ordered my X-S10- should be perfect for my intended use. Thank you for posting!!
Thanks so much for the comment, really glad you found it useful
Thanks for this! I really appreciate the practical examples for sharpness , DR, and IS. I'm definitely sold on this sensor but am desperately torn and wish they made a camera with the T30's dial system but the IS, grip, and flip screen on the S10...
Glad you enjoyed the video. There's definitely an X-T40 on the horizon, but I doubt it will have IS. You might be better off with the X-T4 if you want those features..but it's a bigger, heavier camera
Great video again, very useful presentation. I have just recently started watching your videos & thought I recognized some of the scenery from this video & the 70-300. We thoroughly enjoyed our time in Lisbon & Porto 2 years ago on our Douro River riverboat cruise trip !! Took a ton of photographs !
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed the video. Lisbon is a beautiful city, I've lived here well over 20 years now and still find it a fascinating city
Andy, always enjoy your reviews. Many thanks!
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoy the videos
Love this camera. Thanks for a great and useful review like always.
Thanks so much, really glad you found it useful
Superb review and comparison Andy. Coming from a Sony A6000, I really won't miss the retro dials, although having them would be nice going by how popular they are. BTW, I wanted something that can be used for videos and the occasional stills. Have booked the S10 and expect it to be delivered before the end of the year. However, I was mighty impressed with reviews of the E3 and the minimalistic design it is based on. Hoping that the rumoured E4 will have vlogging friendly features and that we have some confirmation before my S10 arrives.
Glad you enjoyed the review. Indeed the X-E cameras feels a little like Fuji's forgotten line, as the X-E3 was essentially the second generation of Fuji cameras (same sensor and processor as the X-T2, X-T20 and X Pro 2, and the whole 3rd generation of Fuji cameras seems to have passed it by. I've not heard anything beyond the rumours, but I suspect we'll see it before the X-T40
Very good review and informative comparison. Thank you!
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed it
This is my third video I viewed from Andy and I can see I will be watching many more. Great job Andy.
After much exploration into mirrorless and then APS-C vs Full Frame I found the image quality of the XS10 excellent. I am retired Designer and the Fuji was impressive for my needs which is an everyday camera and a travel camera. I enjoy hiking and taking stills and wanted a lightweight and smaller system. The Fuji checked the boxes and has a nice portfolio of lenses. Not having owned a Fuji before (my only reference was shooting color film with Fuji in the 70’s ) so the button functions are not an issue. Plus the XS10 allows you to change the function of buttons should you wish. The ergonomics are excellent. With a Peak Design wrist strap
and 6 stop IBIS, shooting hand held is very possible even when your body is in an awkward position. With two zoom lenses and a smaller bag hiking will be much more enjoyable. Looking forward to my next trip to Alps and getting more proficient with the XS10.
I would say the Fuji is the MINI Cooper of cameras, and if you ever drove one you know what I mean.
Thanks so much for the comment Mike, really glad you've found the videos useful
Thank you for the video. Very helpful. Great photos as well.
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Dear Andy, just thank you very, very much for your once more very detailed and well considered review. Your videos are so different and so better, „scientific“ in a quite common and just practical way of seeing things. Stay sane and connected to your community
Thanks for the comment Michael, really glad you find the videos useful and interesting
Thank you for this, the only thing I worry of is space and battery life now. Wonderful in depth review!!
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah, battery life is a concern, particularly after using the XT4
best review I`ve seen ! Great !
Thanks so much, glad you found it useful
Loving mine a lot, great vid!!
Thanks so much
As always, your detailed description of the new camera coupled with great examples as well as great b-roll to make the video more cohesive amounts to one of the best, if not the best, examination of the camera that I have seen to date. Also, the landscape images are of course stunning. I have and have had several X-variants as well as the GFX bodies and lenses and, although this is a bit off topic, I would like to add my pitch for Fujifilm to apply their evolved IBIS technology to a reimagined GFX body. I’m thinking of something along the lines of the 50 megapixel bodies, with traditional ISO, shutter speed, and exposure compensation dials (think streamlined GFX 50S) with IBIS. Also-and this includes the GFX100 which I also use- I wish Fujifilm would revisit button, dial and joystick design, making the buttons and joystick larger and more prominent and making the dial movement more positive. Finally, I would like to see the back dial moved to the left, allowing more room between that and the thumb rest, in addition to keeping the Q button out of the way of accidental presses. I love the appearance and design logic of the Fujifilm bodies and I think Fujifilm would realize increased market share of the physical layout and the tactile nature of the controls were revamped, in keeping with some of the mirrorless and DSLR competition.
Thanks for the comment Ben, glad you enjoy the reviews. It's a while since I've used a GFX camera, but I do remember the button layout was sometimes a little odd. There are rumours of Fuji putting the 100mp sensor into a body more like the GFX 50S, which might be interesting, and I'd guess with the advances they've made in scaling down IBIS that we would expect to see that. For sure though, there are going to be more cameras in the GFX line up, and everything I hear indicates that Fuji are intent on scaling down the MF line.
Thanks Andy. It will be fun to see what they come up with.
Great review.....new with fuji.... First time using it's great. Like so much ur review. Thanks..
Thanks so much, really glad you found it useful
thank you for explaining so beautifully
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After watching some of your videos I thought to myself that with the quality of your work and your love for Fuji cameras you deserved to be in their photographer's family. I went to the Fuji site and much to my surprise (or not really), you are! You deserve it. You're a hell of a photographer! I'm Portuguese and it's good to know you live in Portugal. I've moved from Madeira Island to Porto, 15 years ago, and returned to the island last year to focus more on hiking and reignite my love for photography, after so many years stopped. You're inspiring!
Thanks so much for the comment Pedro. Yeah, I've been a Fuji Ambassador since near the beginning (well, X-T1 days), they are lovely people at Fuji, and of course great cameras. I've never been to Madeira, but it's been on the list since I visited the Açores a few years ago, and I notice that Madeira is becoming more and more popular for photographers, so I'll have to check it out soon.
I've lived in Portugal for well over 20 years now...I've been officially Portuguese for more than 5 years, but obviously I was born in the UK and because I do my videos in English people assume I live there, but I actually lived less than half of my life in Britain and left when I was 23.
Anyway, I'm really glad you find the videos and images inspiring. All the best with your photography
I loved the retro styling of the X-T1. After many years shooting film on the Nikon F3, I loved the manual controls. Now i really want a second camera to complement the X-T1, mainly for shooting video. I'm torn between doing a full upgrade to the X-T4 versus just opting for the X-S10. Thank you for your video.
Thanks for the comment. I really like the retro styling of the XT1 as well, but in some of their bodies like the X-S10 and X-H2S Fuji are using a different design language, which is a shame. For sure, you’re probably better off with the XT4 is you like the retro styling,and it is a better camera all round
Thanks for a great overview.
Thanks for the comment, glad you found it useful
It looks good but as a photographer who mainly takes stills I 'm more than happy with my XT 30. I also prefer the manual dials and the more classic camera look of the XT series.
I agree with you on the dials, and from the naming convention of this it looks like Fuji still have plans for an X-T40 that's much more in line with the X-T30 etc
Completely agree, that’s one of the big pulls for moving to Fuji. If anything, I’d really like my X-T30 to have a dedicated ISO dial rather than go the other way and loose all the dials. I also miss the d-pad that I had on my X100F.
Maybe but those iso dials are terrible quality and break
Comprehensive analysis video..great images...thanks
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Hello Andy! I learn a lot from you, thank you. Is there a video where you talk about film simulations and those you use? Happy and fertile year 21!
Thanks so much Vincent, glad you enjoy the videos. I pretty much never use the film simulations in photography as I always shoot RAW. I might use them occasionally for video, but mostly Provia (which is what I filmed this video in)
I'm so excited I just invested in an S 10 and I'm really excited to get it. It will arrive next week. Thank you for the video. I did a lot of research on the three or four different models around this budget price range and I bought this camera for just walk about stuff instead of carrying my two big NikonD8 50s around which are my landscape cameras, but I just needed something to walk around with and this is the beast that I've invested i. I think it will serve a purpose well and I think 20 megapixels is more than enough and 26 is just brilliant.
Thanks for the comment, I'm glad you found the review useful. Have fun with the camera
@@AndyMumford thanks 🙏
when xs10 was first launched I dismissed it because of all the fun I've had with the top dials and aperture ring after years of shooting Pentax (also I like to have WR). Shooting with screen I still prefer the tilt over flip-out screen but then again, the camera and screen are small enough to cradle them in two hands quite comfortably. I don't really see why Fuji (or anyone) doesn't make the dials fully re-programmable, all of them unlabeled (possibly with sticker/clip-on labels to put on top of them included in the box or sold separately) - there are 4 dials on the body + aperture ring on the lens, that's more than enough to have them programmed to exposure triangle controls (even with xc lenses) and still have at least one for something else.
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Yeah, that sounds totes like something a beginner would love - guess the button function! The fujifilm marketing dept gonna need a shake up, I think. Bravo, I say. Bravo.
Funny how differently people work. PASM always confused and held me back I feel. It's only through the Fuji dials and direct controls that finally everything made sense :D
I'm in agreement with you. I've always found the analogue dials to be really iuntuitive
I have just come to the Fuji system with this x-s10 and although there is no such thing as a perfect camera, I am looking forward to having great times with it.
It's a lovely camera, I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it
I’m buying this camera end of the month. This will be a huge upgrade from my X-A5 😂
Good luck with it, it's a great camera
I have the XA5 as well and I'm looking at buying this camera now! How are you finding it, would you recommend?
For me that aperture ring on the lens also works during video. I do shoot in M mode, maybe that makes all the difference. Mostly with xf 16mm f2.8 lens for vlogging
Hmmm, I'll have another look, but I couldn't get the aperture ring to affect anything in video mode, neither in M or Aperture priority. Strange
My first X100 (original) was destroyed by some inclement weather on a sailboat, but no direct moisture at all! Since that experience I will always think twice before buying a non-weather sealed camera. Just some food for thought. I loved that camera and was so bummed it got ruined.
I like reviews like this that focus on usability, image quality etc and don't focus so much on the 'specs'. So another really good vid. from Andy. It was his earlier reviews that gave me the confidence to go Fuji.
I had an X-T30 briefly as a second body to my X-T4. (I moved to Fuji during the Summer). I didn't get on with the way the X-T30 felt or worked in the hand. The X-S10 on the other hand feels really good. I almost exclusively shoot stills and pretty much always hand held so IBIS is a big thing for me and I shoot using the EVF, not the screen.
What I also like is the weight. It fits in a small bag with a pouch of filters, 16-80 and 50-200 lenses plus a couple of spare batteries and it is no bother to carry and use all day. The 4 is just a bit more cumbersome. So although maybe designed to attract video shooters I regard it as my 'Goldilocks' camera. It does everything just right. Heck of a lot of camera for the cash.
Thanks so much for the comment Kane, and really glad you found the videos useful. It's also great that you get on so well with the X-S10. I'm leaning more towards keeping it as my second body alongside the X-T4 as well. At the moment i have an X-T3, which I really like, but I've always liked having a second smaller camera like the X-T30 or X-T20 to keep the weight down, and this having IBIS really makes a difference.
I have both also and the x-s10 is a great companion camera. People seem to think it's the light alternative to the x-t4 for video, but it's really the smaller PHOTOGRAPHY camera. The video specs are much lower on the X-s10, but the photography are the same. I can't think of a difference off the top of my head, except the x-s10 has a flash.
Also, very interested in your take on the 16-80 / 70-300 combination when you try it out. I'm using the 18-55 and 55-200.
Hopefully I'll get a chance later in the summer. It really all depends on when we can travel again.
I had an X-T4 for about a year, then found a used X-S10 for a really good price.
The ergonomics of the X-S10 are so much better that I rarely use the X-T4 any more, will probably sell it.
I am a Fuji fan, and generally prefer the Fuji dials for aperture, shutter speed, etc, but the X-T4 is big, heavy, and difficult to hold on to.
I'm still using the X-S10 and really like it
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Thanks for amazing video 😍 .
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@@AndyMumford and you look really hot too 😊😉
One of the reason that made me upgrade my beloved X-T30 to X-S10 was the autofocus which was not updated in the latest firmware for X-T30. The X-S10's autofocus is the fastest Fuji has to offer and is on par with the X-T4. Also I shoot mostly on aperture priority with auto iso so I don't mind the lack of traditional exposure controls on the X-S10. Lastly the new classic negative film simulation is absolutely beautiful.
I've switched to the X-S10 as my secondary camera and been really happy with it. It also balances really well with larger zoom lenses
@@AndyMumford If you decided to use the X-S10 as your secondary camera that says a lot, thanks for sharing. just sold my X-T30 after a year and a half and going to buy the X-S10, i still use my Nikon DSLR and as much as i loved the X-T30 i really was missing the grip and ibis and articulating screen as i shoot a lot of videos. love your channel, peace.
@@AndyMumford Do you miss the classic dials, or have you adjusted?
@@AndyMumford Hi thanks for all your great videos Andy. I recently bought the XS10 as a third body and a dedicated body for my 150-600mm lens. Works amazing and makes the whole setup really light and ergonomic. The grip is fabulous, and it makes it feel incredibly balanced with the long lens. Also, auto focus and tracking for birds in flight is spot on! Really happy with this little workhorse!
Always enjoy your videos. I have had such difficulty with my Sony a6400, that I've given up on Sony. I'm looking at the X-S10 for stills photography/travel, but am gun-shy now. I do think the EVFs in this price ranger are inadequate. I just wish it had the 3.69m dot - whatever - EVF. I've also heard it's kind of small in this camera. What do you think?
The EVF is smaller, but it's never been something I've had a problem with it
Hi, very nice video and you actuallu convinced me to go towards a Fujifilm camera. I am an amateur photographer (not really interested in the video side), I come from a Nikon D3200 and always sho in full manual and I wanted to step up to a nice mirrorless camera. I wasn't sure on brand and models and I didn't want to spend more tha 850 between body and lens (maybe starting with a kit lens). Would it be more reasonable to try out the X-T200 or the X-T30 (but I'd like the articulating screen) and maybe, if I want to have more quality, sell it to get a better camera or should I go for the X-S10, investing these 150 euros now? Let?s say I'm into basic photographies but often I like trying more complex stuff like astrophotography and high exposures. Thank you so much in advance!
I wouldn't get the Xt200, it's a little basic, but the XT30 is a great camera. The image quality is the same as the XS10, but of course it doesn't have stabilisation. Really the choice is between which one feels the most intuitive in your hands.
A good overview, I was looking at this model but ended up with the X-T4.
Just subscribed to your channel, plenty of content for a Fuji user.
With regard to changing Aperture in video mode via a dial only, could that be to avoid the shutter click sound being recorded ?
Glad you enjoyed the video. The XT4 is a great camera and I prefer it over the XS10. What you said about the aperture dial makes sense.
I really love the fuji colors and image quality. The XS-10 seems like the perfect camera to start with IMO.
Good luck with it. It’s a great camera
@@AndyMumford why yes, thank you!
Hi.
Great video as usual.
I'm considering to buy this camera vs the X-T3.
However, the evf on the X-S10 seems to be really small and I really love the one on the X-T3. Has it been a problem for you while trying the X-S10?
Many thanks!
Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the review. The smaller EVF isn't really a problem for my because its the same as the XT30/20/10, which I've always used as a second camera. I prefer the bigger EVF, but it's never really been an issue
Thanks for your detailed review ! I wish to consult with you :
As I'm a very long term user of Canon 5D mark 2 camera, which of the 2 cameras ( X-T4 / X-S10 ) will make it easier for me to adjust to Fuji system?
I would say the X-T4, as the controls are all analogue and really intuitive
Hi Andy, thanks for the great review. I am currently looking at both cameras, and trying to decide. How important, and effective is weather sealing in the X T4 (or indeed any camera which claims to be weather sealed)? This is the only issue for me. Not that I take a lot of photos when weather is poor, but taking photos on a beach (salt spray etc..), or any other time you might get caught out in the elements. I am not sure whether spending an extra AUD700 for weather sealing is a good option. Of course the X T4 has other benefits, just not sure I need them. Cheers and thanks for your view.
Apologies.. I sent this question a few days after watching the video, and watching it again, now see that you have given a great response to my weather sealing question. Maybe the X T3 is my best option since it has WS, and I am more into photos than video anyway. But the X S10 is so tempting for travel!!! Cheers.
Glad you found the info you were looking for. Since I made this video the XS10 has been with me to Iceland and the Dolomites and been used in some pretty inclement weather, waterfall spray and lots of dust, and it''s not had any issues at all.
Thanks, Andy for a clarifying review. Just wondering whether you find the face and eye autofocus consistently good, since I’ve seen a few reviews that it pales in comparison to Sony and Canon. Best, Sylvia
I must admit I don't use AF a lot and can't compare it with the Sony and Canon, but when I'm sitting at a table to recored a video it seems to lock onto my face and eye pretty well
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Thanks Andy for this great video. I'm about to buy my first Fuji camera and I've to decide between the X-T30 & X-S10. I'm mainly looking to use the camera during my hikes and travels. Mainly photos but I shoot videos sometimes. Would you please give a recommendation? I'm not able to decide.
I'd say the X-T30 because I prefer the controls and it has better battery life for hiking
Ali what did you purchase?
Either body would be a good choice. I own the XT30 and primarily use it for photography. When doing video clips I need either a tripod or something like a mailbox to stabilize the body. Purchasing an XS10 on Saturday. Basically, the difference between the XT30 and XS10 is the IBIS. For video stabilization is a great help.
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Thank you for this great comparison! Do you notice a significant difference between the screen resolutions (1620 vs 1040)? I don't mind the smaller viewfinder but screen is very important for me.
Thanks for the comment. Personally, I can't say I've ever really noticed a difference between the screens
I got the S10 and I've never been happier. I just have a 35mm manual lens right now and some macro filters. Just gotta get me a nice zoomy lens for the birds
It’s a great camera…I still use mine almost 2 years later
Hi Andy, yes keep me informed when you have details about your Iceland workshop next year. One more question for you. I have the X-S10. When I press the drive button and scroll down to bracketing, there are four options (AE, film simulation, dynamic range and focus), but the last one, focus bracketing, is greyed out and I can't figure out how to access it. Any ideas? Thanks, Steve
As for the Iceland workshop, there probably will be one next summer, it depends on other plans for Norway which I’ll know better this summer. If you're interested can you drop me an email (andy@andymumford.com). I get hundreds of messages here on YT and I'll never be able to find this again after a week, so for things like workshops I always keep all the correspondence via mail.
All the best, Andy
Hi Andy,
Thanks for your clear comparison!
Now I am struggling in xs10 and Xt30ii, which one do you prefer?
Thanks!
Thanks for the comment. The XT30 has better controls, but the XS10 has a better grip. I prefer the XS10
Hi Andy
and thank you for your wonderful videos!!! Can you please tell me which camera, lense and which settings you have used for this comparison? It's amazing.
Take care
Karl
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed the video. I used an XT4 with the 10-24mm to film it
@@AndyMumford Dear Andy
Thank your for your answer. Do you use Eterna or NgStd? I like the colours of your videos so much.
All the best
Karl (Germany)
Lovely presentation. It’s given me a big push towards buying this camera.
Thanks so much for the comment, glad you found the review useful
Andy, which lens do you use to shoot video now? Which lens or lenses would you pair with the X-S10 for video?
it really depends. I tend to use the 10-24mm a lot (this video was filmed with it at 18mm). I also use the kit 18-55mm for video
Such an in-depth review!
Thanks so much, glad you found it useful
Hi Andy, great review. I just watched your review on the 10-24 lens, also excellent. I have used an X100T for a couple of years and want to jump into more advanced stills photography. The X-T3 is my current preference but this is an interesting option. Do the image stabilised lenses give the same level of stabilisation as those in body? Would you say the stills are as good as those you get from the X-T3 as it's the same sensor? Would it make more sense to bite the bullet and dive straight into the X-T4? Thanks Mike
It all depends on you prefered camera size and if you wear glasses. With glasses, there is no other option than a T3 oder T4. The T30 viewfinder is horrible in direct/harsh sunlight. If you don't need IBIS in camera, get yourself a T3 and enjoy the probably best Fuji camera you can get for your money at the moment. Cheers and have fun!
It's really hard to say, as personal preference plays a huge role but what I can say is that there is absolutely no difference in image quality between this, the XT4 and XT3. They are identical. Stabilised lenses don't come close to in body stabilisation, so if this is an issue, then go with the X-T4. The X-T4 also has the best battery life of any Fuji camera, but the screen is very much a love it or hate it, and for people doing stills, particularly on a tripod with an L bracket, then the X-T3 is a more practical camera.
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Hi Andy, thanks for your video. I've been using the Canon 600D DSLR for ten years now and looking to upgrade. I predominantly do stills but also want a good video option to venture into videos in the future. Would you suggest the XT-4 or the XS-10? Both seem to work well for me but since it will be a long term investment I'm wondering if I should spend more and go with the XT-4. Also are there restrictions in the sense that Fuji cameras do not have a full frame sensor?
Both cameras are great, but I feel that the controls on the XT4 are more intuitive than on the XS10. It also has much better battery life and a tougher body overall. The XS10 is my second camera and I like it a lot, but the XT4 just feels better all round to use.
I personally don't feel any restrictions at all in not having full frame
Andy. I'm in the process of moving from Canon to Fuji. I've been researching the Fuji line for about 10 days. My heart says to go with XT4 as the world seems to love it. Logic however wonders if I need to pay that much and if I should consider the XT30 / SX-10 or wait a bit for the XT30II. (I'm in no real hurry) The primary use of the camera is photography... I primarily shoot landscapes often selling prints and canvas up to 40x30 inches. I'm going to assume that the Fuji sensor is capable of producing images that could print that size? As I want the full Fuji experience I'd prefer the dials over the more familiar UI style of the SX-10. As they all use the same sensor, IQ should be equal. I do however prefer to shoot in conditions that most others would prefer to not venture out in. Shooting the beach in wind, rain or snow is a very common occurrence for me. You say you've never had any issues with the non-weather sealed bodies so I'll take that as a good sign. Budget is not an issue, but i'd prefer not to overspend on a body if I don't need to... I could put that extra money into glass. Thoughts?
Many thanks for your content and reply.
Hi Dave, I've been using the "smaller" Fuji bodies (XT10/20/30 and XS10) as a second body for over 6 years now and I've never had any concerns about their ability to withstand harsh environments. I've used them in waterfall spray, rain, ocean spray, volcanic dust, sand storms, blizzards, down to about -15C and they function fine (although battery life does suffer in extreme cold).
The XS10 is a great camera, and my current back up to my XT4, but it doesn't really feel like a Fuji camera. The dials and inputs are all different from the XT line, so the XS10 probably isn't for you.
The XT30 is a lovely camera, and very capable, but if I had one issue with it, it would be with the ergonomics. First off, it just doesn't balance as well with large zoom lenses like the 16-55, 10-24 or 50-140mm as the XT4 does (or the XS10, which has a really deep grip). That makes using it handheld less comfortable. Also, the buttons and dials are smaller, which usually isn't a problem, but if you're shooting in harsher weather and wearing gloves, then it's less easy to change the settings than the XT4.
With that being said, I would say the bigger body of the XT4 is a better choice, but I would also highly recommend taking a look at the XT3. It's the same body, has the same sensor and processor, actually has a better screen than the XT4 if you don't need the self screen, and only misses the stabilisation..but the XT30 doesn't have that either. It'll also be less expensive than the XT4, so if you can find one, I'd recommend that.
@@AndyMumford Andy. Thank you so much for your reply. In your experience would you say printing up to 40x30 inches via a professional lab is doable? Thanks.
Thanks for a great review. I have the X-T2 and love it, but, I shoot mainly vintage MF lenses and at my age, it would be nice to have IBIS. Have you used any old MF lenses with this and does IBIS work well with them?
Thanks so much for the comment. I’ve not tried it with vintage lenses
@@AndyMumford Sounds like another video for you. :)
I've always thought you had to convert focal length to 35mm equivalent before doubling then dividing into 1. So 55mm = 82mm equivalent, so 1/160th shutter speed.
Great video. I sub'd since I got my x-s10. I'm completely new to the system (rather than new to photography). Can you recommend any videos on recommended settings/customisations (or ones you use often) and workflow to get the best out of it? I'm still getting used to all the various settings, but wondering if there's something I'm missing and there's a 'best' way to use or navigate them.
From what I understand it depends on what you’re doing. Are you doing more photo or video?
@@BrendanEvan photography rather than video.
I can't think of any particular videos...I'm not big on settings and tend to shoot everything manual (exposure and focus) and the files in RAW, so different image or focus settings don't really affect the way I shoot. Sorry I can't be more help
@@AndyMumford I was wondering more in terms of adapting the Q menu or dials. Likewise if you need to 'shoot' in a certain way for RAW and lightroom processing. You don't use the tone controls or set the light balance in camera then?
@Mark O I'm a full time teacher and have just spent the later 3 weeks in solid assessments. I'd love the time just to experiment, but as I figured there is the most complex information retrieval system ever invented at my fingertips, people would be gracious enough to offer some pointers. In your case, perhaps not. Is pointing out the bleeding obvious the best you've got?
Great content 👍
One of the reasons which kept me from stepping into the Fuji system are the supposed issues of RAF files with Lightroom, which is my favourite platform as well. I tried C1 but I just couldn't digest the user interface and prefer to stick with Adobe. I generally do not print larger than A3, may I ask you if within that print size any difference in details reproduction would be noticeable among the results obtained with the two platforms? Thank you
Thanks for the comment. The latest Fuji cameras all have 26mp, which has a resolution of over 6000 pixels on the longest edge. Printing at 100 pixels per centimeter gives native prints of over 60cm along the longest edge, which is bigger than A3 size. The issues that people have with LR and RAF files are only visible at 100% magnification, which is greater than you’ll see A3 prints at, so the prints will be fine. I use LR and sell my prints with no issues
@@AndyMumford thank you, keep up the great work!
I have to say the JPEG out of the camera is soo good that I barely need to do any work on the Raw files, but you are absolutely correct on the LR.
i agree it's confusing with the placement of dials, or the function of dials in different modes, but it also buttresses the point you make that this is for a new breed of users who may be coming to the Fuji System so will not have the muscle memory from previous. Nonetheless, i think Fuji needs to think about the user experience, which needs to be intuitive. So far I am really challenged and need to take a few minutes to re-orient each time i switch mode. Hope they are listening...
Yeah, it's true. I use this camera as a second/back up camera to my XT4 and still have to think a little about certain things that should be intuitive
I've done photography in the past and always founD the DSLR's too big to take with me, so ended up selling the whole lot. I know have to make a decision between the X-S10 and the X-T30 (i) for the exact same price. Although the X-S10 is probably more comfortable and I am used to PSAM style dials, I actually think the portability and the retro dials will be exactly what will make me fall in love with photography again as it did for you. This entire video I was leaning towards the X-S10 until the conclusion came. Either way, probably can't go wrong :) Thanks!
Have fun with the new camera. As you said, you can't go wrong with either of them
Hi Andy…this camera is intriguing to me however i am concerned about it not having sealing. I dont shoot in conditions near like what you do however i had a nikon dslr fail on me once after a very light rain on Easter island of all places!! Nikon said it likely came in through the hot shoe. So im hesitant about buying a non sealed camera. Lenses not so much of a concern as you have indicated. Would absolutely love to take one of your courses sometime!!!
Thanks for the comment, hope you found the video useful. All I can say is that I'm pretty comfortable with the XS10 in pretty much any weather.
Have fun with the camera if you decide to get it, and hope to see you on a workshop some day
Great video! It made me really interested in buying this cam. What kind of lens would you recommend to get as a starter?
Thanks for the comment, glad you found the video useful. I'd say have a look at the 16-80 as a first lens.
@@AndyMumford thank you very much
@@AndyMumford I wanted to order via your affiliate link to support you but it would make little sense for me to order it from the US as I live in Germany. Do you work with other sellers over here?
Dear Andy, how´s your experience with the Fujinon 55-200 with regards to image quality? Can you imagine the lense on the X-S10? I think about moving away from my Nikon D7500 equipment towards the Fuji system. For short focal lengths I work with a Leica Q2. Thanks for your thoughts, they are much appreciated. regards, Christian.
I like the 55-200mm, and it's the telephoto I used for landscapes. Here's a review I made ua-cam.com/video/MaQtTKRRphI/v-deo.html
I tend to carry two bodies when I'm shooting, one with a wide angle and one with a tele...at the moment I use the XT4 and XT3, but I'm thinking of selling the XT3 and keeping this with the 55-200mm on it.
Andy great videos I am looking at the XS 10- and the XT-30 I only shoot stills so using the 55-200mm how much more would the IBIS help when shooting handheld everything else being equal...
Yeah, the IBIS would help a lot when shooting at that length
@@AndyMumford thanks I will order one....
Hi there.
Just sat and watched this review. I know it’s a couple of years old, but was just what I was looking for.
I’m not tied to any one brand of camera as this will be my first decent camera (at the ripe old age of 51)
Is there anything out there now of a comparable value /specs than the XS 10, that I should be having a glance at. Nikon Z-FC maybe?
Or should I just take a punt on the XS 10?
Many thanks.
I can’t say, as I don’t use Nikon cameras. I can say that the XS10 is due to be upgraded very soon, and it will likely be at some point this year.
the x-s10 feels so much better in the hand then x-t30, tried it with the 56mm, but I wish they made something like in the style of x-t30 (analog dial and silver or even a graphite option) with the grip of x-s10
The only thing I can think of is getting one of those L brackets that come with a grip for the XT30
Do you think this camera can be taken without a tripod and get good landscape shots? How ofter do you need a tripod with exposures longer than 1/8s ? Or when is the quality beter with a tripod? Thanks for the great videos, I think I seen them all, some multiple time as I can back to them from time to time. The wide angle lens one was very useful to me. I can't make up my mind. I have an XT-3 and do miss the IBIS. I am just an entusiast and the upgrade to the XT-4 is a lot of money just for IBIS. This camera might be the answer for me. It is lighter, I don't feel I need the weather sealing. I today shoot videos with my iPhone XR... I hope you'll reply...
I think you can get good landscape shots with it, but I'd say shooting wide angle, I wouldn't want to shoot above a quarter of a second. I think with care the camera can get decent shots at that shutter time, but it will always be sharper with a tripod. So yes, it's possible, but I think not having a tripod would give you some limits.
Thanks for the review Andy, I buy my X-T2 after saw your review long time ago, this time after seeing your review the X-S10 I had a feeling i will sell my second body X-T20 and get this one..😁👍, very nice video lots of practical info...the big benefits from practical standpoint I think are the IBIS and 15 minutes exposure, I have the bricks 16-55 the IBIS will help the slow shutter shooting water stream without Tripod.
Thanks so much glad you enjoyed the review...and enjoy theXS10, it's a great camera
@@AndyMumford any possibilities reviewing 70-300 in the near future 😁...I think many of your subscribers eagerly waiting for that ones 🙏
@@yannote8302 I have the lens and I'll start the review next week-..I'm just finishing the review of the 10-24mm WR
@@AndyMumford Nice... thanks, stay safe & stay healthy Sir..🙏
Hi Andy, I really like how you present your videos. I just began using my Fujifilm X-S10 today! First non-point and shoot camera. After shooting for a couple of hours, in the IS options, "shooting + motion" and "continuous + motion" were greyed out and no longer available. They were earlier in the day. I can't figure out what setting(s) I changed to cause this to happen. Any ideas? Thanks! Cheers, Steve
Hi Steven, had a look at this and it's the same with mine. Checked the manual and if you look on p146 it explains that the + Motion adjusts the shutter speed if a moving object is detected in the frame. It also says;
"+ MOTION has no effect when sensitivity is set to a fixed value, and may also be unavailable at some other combinations of settings. The effect may vary with lighting conditions and the speed at which the object is moving"
Great review - thank you. I am looking for a smaller easier camera to use to trade from my Nikon D7500 ( which I almost almost only use in Auto, and with an 18-200 lens). I think my biggest concerns are 1. No weather sealing ( more an issue for sand and dust rather than rain) 2. Is there a smallish lens that has good optics similar in range to my 18-200.? Also there are rumours of an XT 5 which may be smaller than the XT 4 - would that be a better choice or overkill given my basic photography skills? ( there is also the new OM 5 - but my feeling that won’t give better results than my iPhone 14!). Thanks again.
I've been using the X-S10 for well over a year and have used it in some pretty harsh weather (including the desert in Namibia) and the weather sealing isn't a problem. There isn't an equivalent of the 18-200mm for Fuji. There's the 16-80 but thats about it. As for rumours about the X-T5, they're not rumours. It was announced yesterday ua-cam.com/video/zPSqvT37uW0/v-deo.html
@@AndyMumford Thanks Andy - I have just been watching a few initial reviews on the X-T5 - looks a great camera, but if I have the same problem with lenses on that as the X-S10, and given you suggest the X-S10 sealing is fine (I wouldn't use it in the rain or very harsh conditions anyway), and given my basic skills, maybe the X-S10 is the better choice regardless of cost? Or is the extra image stabilisations, weather proofing, better video, larger sensor etc worth going for as an investment now?
It's a shame they didn't put IBIS in the xt30 refresh. The manual layout that comes with the xt30 gives such quick control when shooting but the image stabilization is a great improvement
I think Fuji want to keep the lines separate,and the IS will be in their bigger cameras, with the XS line as the small stabilized camera
Hi. I'm a beginner of mirrorless and was thinking off a6400 xt30 or xs10 ,. I mainly do product photography. Soooo can you give me advice of which one to buy? Thanks
Sorry, I've never used the A6400, so I can't comment on that, but I would recommend the X-S10 over the X-T30 because of the stabilisation...althoughI prefer the X-T30 stylings
I like that it have a proper grip. It is almost impossible to hold a X-T in one hand for more than 2 minutes unless you have a very small lens.
I don't do video but I need a proper grip when I use something like a 16-55 f/2.8.
@They Caged Non OK, it's to late. Because of the bad grip of the X-T3 I bought the Sony a6600 instead.
@They Caged Non
Glad I saw this... I see the perks of the xs10, I do. But I did want something with a classic look, great capabilities, and some heft..so I'm leaning towards the xt3, just the grip is tiny. Didn't know there were extensions for that.
Hi Andy! When it comes to landscape photography do you think that the X-S10 brings noticeable improvements over the X-T20? I know the base iso is lower, 2 extra mp and better noise performance but regarding picture quality on prints made on 60*60 cm size would there be a vast improvement? Many thanks!
Honestly, you really can’t tell the difference between files from the two cameras, and the XS10 offers no improvements in output at all, other than how much IBIS helps with hand held shots
@@AndyMumford thank you so much for the answer! Will keep the XT20 then and invest in a lens i miss now! PS: really enjoyed the small clips from Kvalvika on IG... Superb location!
Where can I find xt4 and xt30 video comparison pls?
It's the Nikon Z50 I wished for. With the lens support too. Seems to be a great compromise and I'd like to own one.
I'd not thought of it as being like the Z50.
@@AndyMumford I'm a Nikon shooter with and D850 and Z6, but I also have an X100V. The PASM, the dual unmarked dials that change depending on mode, the big grip - it really reminds me of my Z6. I'd love to test drive an S10 because it's exactly what I wanted as a sidekick to my D850. Now I'd probably replace my X100V with it.
I had the same thought. It's the camera the Z50 should have been. IBIS, flip screen and joystick. And lenses available (even though they don't have such a compact lens like the Z 16-50).
Thank you Andy,. Im' thinking of trading in my xt30. I'm video centric. Should upgrade to the xt4?
I'd say go with the XT4 if you can because it has much better battery life and you can switch it dedicated to video.
Would there be more “alike” to XT4 camera you suggest to use as a second camera (80:20/ Video:Stills)
As a secondary camera to the X-T4. You could try the XT3, which has great video features but not IS, or the XT30, which is a little less sophisticated, but still a nice camera for a backup
Hello, ok i'm a beginner, i hike a lot and i really like taking pictures all end of fields, ferns, trees, mountains and that freehand, the fuji xs10 is better for my use? thank you for your response :)
Hi, thanks for the comment. I think if you prefer to shoot handheld then this is a great choice
Andy, while on tripod, do you turn off ibis on this camera? And turn of ois on lens for ultra long exposure?
I always turn camera IS and lens OIS off when the camera is on the tripod
@@AndyMumford just curious... What if i leave it on?
First of all thanks for the video.Could you share your thoughts on Chinese and Japanese made production?
Hmm, I have literally no thoughts on it at all. I have Fuji cameras and lenses made in both China and Japan and see no difference at all in quality. The MacBook Pro I'm typing this on was made in China, my iPad Pro and iPhone too. The drone I use is a DJI Mavic Pro 2, designed and made in China and it's an incredibly reliable both mechanically and the software it uses. I honestly don't know why people differentiate at all.
@@AndyMumford thank you :)
Wonderful pictures great video. I started with the Nikon SLRs and switched to M43. Enjoyed that a lot more, less weight, less intrusive. But my oly died and I just can't convince myself to stay with M43. It seems like a dying format. Tempted to jump to Sony FF but a deep nagging voice keeps reminding me why i switched to M43 in the first place. But FF has that wonderful bokeh .... now considering the S10
Thanks for the comment, hope you found the video useful
Thanks for the jewel of information when you mentioned your shutter speed should double your focal length. I feel more professional now :), thank you.
Thanks so much, really glad you found it useful
Mr Andy,
I am planning to buy my first Fuji camera and switching from Nikon dx format gear. I am more into still photography (landscapes, portraits and street and occasionally videos as well). I am looking at XS 10 or XH 1 for my purpose. Since XS 10 is a newer camera and also have IBIS ( Though different than XH1) but isn't weather sealed and has a smaller body. The prices i am getting locally are almost same for XH1 with a grip with two additional batteries and that of XS 10 ( body only)
May I request you to suggest me decide which one should I go for XH1 with VBG or XS 10.
Thank you.
Hmm, it's a tough call. I never loved the XH1 as I found it too big and heavy compared with the XT series, but it is certainly a more sturdy camera than the X-S10. Image quality will be pretty much identical, so really you're looking at which you prefer to use. The XH1 has nicer controls I feel, as I prefer the Fuji dials which the X-S10 doesn't have. So I'd recommend you try and get your hands on both in a shop and see how they feel in your hands. I like the lightness of the X-S10, but the controls aren't intuitive to me after using the XT series
@@AndyMumford Thanks Sir.
Hi. What lens was used for the X-S10 photos you took in this video? Thanks.
I was mostly using rhe 10-24mm with the camera
Hi, how do you compare this one with the XT3? Is the XS-10 worth buying than the XT-3. Thank you.
I actually prefer the X-T3 for ergonomics and use...it really depends on how much you want the IS in the XS10
Hi Andy, I am a beginner to a full fledged camera(I've only shot pictures and videos on smartphones) and XS-10 is going to be my first camera. Will it be good for me? I want to use it as a main camera for both pictures and videos. TIA !
It's a great camera. Coming from a smart phone you're going to be amazing at how much better the quality is (particularly when you edit the files on your computer). It's obviously a fair bit more complex to operate than a smartphone though.
hi. you've not had "that much problems" with the weather sealing. can you elaborate what problems you did have?
Sorry, figure of speech. I've never had any problems with a lack of weather sealing on any of the non weather sealed lenses or cameras
I love X-s10.... for the price :) but... is it normal to hear the AF sound during video? When I set to MF is ok, but with my XF 18-55 OIS i hear these sound from AF.
I think it's probably the lens, not the camera. The lens will do that on any camera, but one of the newer zooms will be silent
Sorry for the lateness! But this question will make up my decision.
Do you think fuji’s classic dials are better to learn photography?
That’s the only reason I’m considering the x-t4 or x-t5 as my first camera, but if the x-s10 can be as intuitive as those two, then i’m decided to choose the x-s10.
i used to use canon now im using fuji xt 20 as my first fujifilm and im upgrading to xs10 or xt4 but if u are not used to fujifilm u can still learn them either way might take little bit longer but xs10 buttons are more custom and u get the same quality eitherway besides these small cons.
I didnt enjoy the handle on xt 20 which is a bit similar to xt4 but little smaller som in terms of orgenamics i believe the xs10 is a winner however if u dont mind u can make it up with accecories as the xs10 lacks compared to the xt4. XT5 is very veryy high end camera as the fuji xh2s which is a killer
Conclusion:u get a really all in one for some cons but u get these high end quality and ibis thats the reason i wnated to go with xs10 without breaking my bank account :) its a worth and a killer i would say
It really depends on how you prefer to shoot. I don't think either style of dials helps you learn photography as exposure controls are relatively straightforward either way. Learning photography is much more about the creative aspects of composition and balance and harmony, so you should use the style of controls that allows you to focus more on that and spend less time worrying about how to increase the shutter speed etc
@@AndyMumford that’s some really great advice! Thank you!
Keep up the amazing work! :)
Fujifilm x-m1 was the first X-series camera with that psam dial. Switchable lens and the original 16mp X-trans sensor. Biggest downside apart from the form factor and missing viewfinder is the lack of phase detect AF. You only get contrast AF so it's slow and inaccurate.
AH, you're right. I never really think of those cameras as I've never used them. Just the X-T and X-H cameras (and now the X-S). Good point though.
@@AndyMumford then you also missed the XT100 which also has a psam dial :) For me the XT100 is the best Fuji camera in terms of layout, buttons and screen. If Fuji had given it the x-trans and the auto focus of the XT2 or XT3 it would be the perfect camera for me.... Do you think I could ask Fuji to build me one? :)
@@frankkoenig1411 unfortunately they decided to abandon the x trans from the entry level models. But for the AF the A7 and T200 should be decent enough.
@@AndyMumford you shouldn't use it. The sensor is great but all other stuff is lightyears away from any other x series camera.
The lack of controls is sad, even the focus lever is gone. I wish this would be the xt40 with IBIS and all the classic controls. The xs10 is not why I bought into fujifilm.
For all beginner photographer or people migrating from other systems, this is the right camera
I think the XS10 is supposed to be something different, a little like the XH1..it's certainly not a typical Fuji camera. I'm curious to see whether they'll put IBIS into the XT40..I suspect not as the body is a little bit small
Is there a setting where you can use the apperature ring on the lense to set your apperature? Is there a dial that can be used for SS?
When you have the camera set up in Manual then aperture is controlled on the ring on the lens and shutter speed by the dial on the corner (it's usually the exp. comp, dial on other Fujis)
@@AndyMumford Can you program the controls so that the back dial is consistently exposure comp and the front dial consistently SS? Also, when in A mode does the ring on the lense control aperture?
No, the dials aren’t programmable. In A mode, the lens ring controls aperture
I’m deciding between the Fuji x-s10 and the Nikon Z50 right now. Either camera will be a much needed huge upgrade over my D3500. I think I want the x-s10 because of the better video capabilities (hdmi output too) and that IBIS, the Z50 only has stabilization in the lenses. I want to adapt old lenses that obviously don’t have stabilization so IBIS should help.
Anyone have any input?
Sorry, I've never used the Nikon so i can't offer a fair comparison
I am also torn between getting the Fuji X-S10, the Nikon Z50 or even the Olympus OMD EM5 iii. I already have the Nikon D7500 + 9 F-Mount lenses so I could use the FTZ adapter on the Z50. However, the Fuji has some advantages such as IBIS, fully-articulating screen, Movie Mode on dial, Joystick on back, webcam function etc. The reason I am considering the Olympus too is because I photograph/film wildlife so the new Oly 100-400mm lens would be awesome on that system. Still unsure which to choose myself. I guess this does not help you either!
@@koolkutz7 I ended up going with the X-S10, I only have 3 F mount lenses, which is two kit lenses and the 35mm1.8dxG. I got the X-S10 with the 18-55 f2.8-4, and a FD-FX adapter for canon FD lenses. My Canon FD 50mm 1.8 replaced my 35mm 1.8 for photos that need some bokeh. My D3500 with its 3 lenses are being used to teach my younger 12 year old brother photography, so far he loves it.
@@williamwalters3796 Sounds good. I like the look of that 18-55mm lens to start with.
@@koolkutz7 it’s much better than the Nikon F 18-55 or canon EF 18-55 in my opinion, it feels better and looks better.
Hi which camera is better the xt3 or the xs10 is there any difference?
Better depends on what you want. Image quality is identical, but if you want stabilisation and/or smaller size then get the XS10, if you want weather sealing and tougher body, get the XT3