OhDough, you called it. Putting weapons/stratagems or unique items in the super store is them slowly testing the water. Again, "we don't want fomo guys." I blame Sony.
We need to be harsh. There are several issues with this: 1. This should NOT be on the fomo-inducing store, it should be a permanent, optional DLC or made available in an actual Warbond with other content. 2. The AR is creatively bankrupt at this point. Like come on, why is it basically a reskinned, standard Liberator with Light Armor Penetration? 3. Yet another boring AR shows how lame all the ARs are. Every single AR should go up in Armor Penetration category, minus special versions like Liberator Carbine which is almost like a pseudo SMG & Liberator Penetrator which should do Heavy Armor Pen. 4. The entire armor system needs a massive rework & they need to allow some version of armor crafting, where we can change the armor buffs around. It's ultra lame as it is and I am NOT going to spend money on armor DLC. 5. The prices on these things can no longer be considered "micro" - these are macrotransactions.
I agree with everything you just typed. But to add onto point 4 the game director says “muh classes” despite armour passives being mostly hot garbage aside from the new armour passive and medic armour.
@@elfireii328 The really frustrating thing is, this is now the community's game. They need to take a note from Space Marine 2 devs. & change their internal philosophy; they are providing a SERVICE to their playerbase. Additionally, they really shouldn't take this game so seriously, unlike SM2 where changes have to be signed off by Games Workshop.
First time we see Killzone content in like a decade and it's microtransaction cosmetics and another ceremonial gun in Helldivers 2. We saving two games with this one, boys.
tbf i was hoping the rifle and the smg was a Cosmetic that will switch animation when skin is apply. cuz it no point of buying it which is very god damn expensive from a non-killzone fan POV
@@Grassouillelafripouilleoof my bad yea isn’t it like 75%? It should be upped idk why they have the resistances different across the board but it may be because of planets like hellmire where they still wanted it to be a threat and not completely negated
No, it will make armor design pointless. Real solution is one fixed passive, one changeable passive, for example, Medic armor can’t change its stim buff, but you can change whether it gives you extra stim or genade or faster reload etc.
@@AlaiasAlias Strange how Destiny has been doing moddable gear.. I think since D1 and that hasn't been an issue for "armor design" so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
This was originally planned to be a warbond but somewhere down the line at Sham's admission the team decided to just sell it to us at an absurd price. The prices are beyond egregious, 2k super credits for half of a warbond worth of content is disgusting.
Prices rising??? Try skyrocketing! 1975 total for the entire set. That's 2 warbonds for like ¼th the content! Damn the world's economy is going to hell with these inflation rates!
Oh no poor little arrowhead getting pushed around by mean Sony. Our perfect little company could never be behind something like thi-.. Ah shit they are.
@@themajesticspider-man6116 We call it the accursed Concord Tax. In other words, Sony's pissy that Concord and Lego Horizon Zero Dawn failed, so they're taking it out on us to try and squeeze out some more money. But from what Shams said himself, they themselves decided to do this. So... we've got our rightful punching bag. That idiot.
If they want money they should add armor color patterns for like ~250 SC. A requested nice-to-have feature from players, and something that I don't think people would complain about if monetized
Remember when games could just dish out free DLC size of the new game like Witcher 3 Blood and Wine? So yeah, forget it. Devs made hundreds of millions and it wasn't enough, need to cover the Concord fumble.
Blood and wine wasn't free, but it was 15 pounds, and offered at least 30 hours of content that was extremely high value content too. In contrary AH release the first part of a 2 part selection of armour and guns that will probably total almost 4,000 super credits. If you were to buy all of that with money it would come to well over 30 pounds, which is more than double the price of the one of the best dlcs of all time for two armour sets and two guns. 😬
womp womp devs gotta cover their payroll, you got a bunch of free content with the latest warbond and the new illuminate but still a bunch of complaining.
I think the armor should of originally worked like you can pick what 2 armor passives you want whitch makes customization much better and allows for armor to be more of a cosmetic than something that you have to deal with if you want that specific passive
Idk. Sony has been trying to kill newer better games that are not quite on the political side. Warhammer sold out to Amazon, killing floor 3’s director was fired due to using social media comments regarding sane thoughts. Helldivers 2 is next in the chopper. Sony has been at it for a while.
@@epgamer1145 This apparently isn't on Sony this time, I keep seeing comments about some dev or PR rep from AH stating that this was totally their decision, price and all.
@@shotgun_daddy-1089 Then you never played 1 or 2, it did, it was it's major point, the ISA's AR had the GL, the Hellgast had the masterkey shotgun underbarrel.
Not know any gun in Killing Zone, i really thought that the thicc flash light at the bottom front of the gun is a grenade launcher. Now that i used it, super underwhelming for that price. Atleast give me med armor pen cuz rn it feel like using a normal liberator with some extra ammo, recoil and no scope attached
2000 super credits for a garbage ass assault rifle, armor, helmet, cape, title. That’s the price of TWO full Warbonds… coming off the tail of a Warbond, superstore reset (hi baton), then a crossover… I can smell the greed through the screen
It's been so long since we've had something to unlock with samples and requisition. I wouldn't even care if super credits were interesting to farm, or if there was a better way to target them. As it stands its better to play on the lowest difficulty to farm super credits, which is honestly really boring.
The gun isn't worth $6. In that it's not good enough to warrant costing $6 and even if it was no singular weapon should ever cost that much in a game. "You can farm super credits you know." It cost 650 Super Credits. That is over half the cost of a War Bond. If I'm taking the time to farm up and save 650 Super Credits then I'm just going to go ahead and get the last 350 for the next war bond. Maybe I'm a hater. Killzone isn't a franchise I hold near and dear to my heart. The armor looks cool but it isn't cooler than what we already have and the passive screams "I expect to get hurt by either myself or my teammates." I hate the fact Player Cards are in the Super Store, because they're tied to capes. I don't hate capes being in the Super Store, but I'm never spending 75 credits for a Player Card. And I'm sure not spending 90 for one because it's from a collaboration.
I don't like this. The pricing is so, SO awful, the designs break from the established style by being just a straight rip of the hellghast designs from killzone, and of course as you stated putting weapons in the premium store is no bueno. I just don't get this company, it's like they HAVE to shoot themselves in the foot every time they recover from a controversy they caused from a previous instance of shooting themselves in the foot. What is their problem? Just... Stop fucking shit up while you're ahead!
This entire game has been consistently disappointing, they go through waves of doing something good and then immediately killing any good will, I haven’t played in 8 months because I’m still waiting on the shocking lack of cross progression but I’ve been checking in and it’s literally every other update, it’s comical
I'm a huge Killzone fan, and the Helghast rifle is imo one of the coolest AR's in gaming. It was the first AR I ever saw in a game that had an underbarrel shotgun, and it had a huge mag size in relation to its TTK in Killzone 1. It just being a liberator with slightly higher mag size and better ROF is such a complete slap in the face of the sta-52, *AND* it's $6 worth of super credits. I know they probably aren't ever going to have underbarrel attachments. But they could have at least balanced the gun around being a high capacity tenderizer, since the gun had a high DPS in Killzone, and it's expensive af. I was excited when I saw the leaks because I love Killzone. But at this point, I'll probably just get the SMG coming in later, because we have so few of those right now. And I'll get the armors for the drip. But I'm massively disappointed in this collab.
"When you make things that look nice, who cares if they work well?" This is true. This should be where the money is. But also, if that AR had an alt-fire where the bottom part was a grenade launcher, I would take it even for this price as I am a sucker for Underbarrel Grenade Launchers. But that is just me. Having the set in a more expensive warbond would have been the better option in my opinion.
To me the rifle feels like a worse Sickle. The recoil and reload time suck. The only downside of the Sickle by comparison, is the slight wind-up. Plus, the Sickle has a scope. And the armor is not impressive at all, it just looks cool. A passive that isn't good at any one thing is just mediocre at everything, pass.
i love the wasp, its really good at sniping overseers and watchers, i mean it sucks absolute dog water at killing harvesters but its like a spear for medium enemies
ya ive already uninstalled. they are just "testing the waters" my ass, this is gunna be the new norm. i refuse to continue when they say they wernt gunna sell power, but do it anyway. ya done fucked up AH and sony. too many games took this rout and now are just empty cash grabs.
The Finals has better monetization than basically every single game I've played. Wish more games were like that. Instead of the fomo stuff, its just cosmetics that were recently added to the game and whatever isn't in the list you can buy whenever you want. And if you buy a bundle its always on a discount. Some thing cost actual money but those bundles that require real dollars will always come with in game store credits according to the respective price. I hate all the fomo stuff that are in video games, you'd probably make more money the way The Finals is doing it and keep your community happy. If the monetization was this way in helldivers I'd give this game a 9/10 instead of a 7/10. They still need to add more stuff. (and also the gameplay is just super awesome + the trailers).
they need to rework the armor penetration system, like light pen is 50% damage on medium armor and 25% damage on heavy armor instead of 0 damage for example
That and the durable damage system, we have like 3 different potential damage modifiers in the game, base damage, penetration ratings and durable damage and or maybe include some weak point damage. They need to streamline it to just 1 or 2 and stop hiding what stats to show the player, this whole "we don't want the game to be a numbers game" is a bs excuse to not give the paying customer and player as much information as you can provide.
Light pen is good against the illuminate right now. I’ve actually been able to use weapons I haven’t used in months like the liberator and other light pen weapons.
What’s maddening is it was originally suppose to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, and i bet damn Sony changed that, perchance to pay the concord tax. We’ll be getting a beefier knight and a plasma pulse rifle next Monday with the second batch
We need a transmog system or let us choose 2 perks to put on any armor. That would be great. I don’t wear 90% of the chest pieces because of the perks.
Im so glad I had enough credits saved to get the armor set for free, Im not buying anything else if its gonna be this overpriced and limited time, sucks too I love Killzone and I was super excited for this crossover
If they would have released the warbond and price it at 20-25$ most people woul have bought it and they have a reaspn to grind the game if they are maxed out on everything. Right now, this sucks. I only bought the helmet and cape with credits I grinded.
Also single fire doesnt even work for some guns because the rounds dont go where youre aiming they fire in a spread cone, if youre in first person looking down iron sights tap firing a SMG or assault rifle a lot of the rounds fly left or right/up or down from where youre actually aiming so again, tap fire doesnt mean anything
The gun doesn't even come remotely close to being worth 300 super credits, much less over 600. The armor looks decent but the passive is deceptively useless since it's very rare to encounter all of the things it protects against and you're instead far better off using an armor that protects against specific things. The only thing I'd say worth getting is just the title and maybe the cape and that's about it. Overall this is both massively overpriced _and_ extremely disappointing, a very very bad combination if Sony is looking to make money. Very hard pass
@@Zebrastripegum-m2j Wow it's almost like another company got sued for this exact reason. Also it's content in a game where content isn't released often so of course he would want it. Don't be a glaze diver.
@@BearDude2311 Glazer diver?? What in the fuck are you talking about lmfao, I haven't made ANY purchase since this dropped, because again, I wasn't forced to buy it, dumb f*** 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BearDude2311 Glaze diver? What in the fuck are you talking about?? I haven't made ANY purchase ever since this dropped, because again, I wasn't forced to buy, dumb **** 🤣🤣
The performance of the gun is NOT the problem man, the price is too high. The gun performs great for what it does (a light assault weapon, for light enemies (Voteless mayhaps?) And it's recoil can be phased out once you play with the gun for a game or 2, it's not as bad as the adjudicator).
I really like the look of the chest piece. Just did some super credit farming for an hour and got lucky with a 100 drop. Wasn't a big deal tbh. Got 600-700 and wasn't trying that hard.
Throw hate at me, don't care, this game went pre 60 day update kind of garbage right now. Weapons garbage and game crashing almost every mission. Its like they don't bother testing anything. Just throw it out there and watch the heads bob up and down.
half the cost of a warbond for a gun that's on-par with the STARTER weapon and another half the cost of a warbond for an armour with 4 half-resists Yeaaaaaah, No. A shame as the last warbond had some really nice kit within and then AH screw up their goodwill once again on a bunch of excessively priced FOMO BS now clogging up the formerly 90% cosmetics store. Not helped in that a single warbond costs 1/.4 the price of the game at launch so this "collab" of 2 "viable" items is charging 1/4 the cost of an ENTIRE GAME while also leaning into FOMO tactics instead of making it a simple buyer-aware warbond.
Fine with the Armor but weapons in the store... I draw the line their. Plus why are we constantly testing strategems? Just give it to us. Same with the FRV. Lore based time gates is not the way to go AH. Edit: I may stop playing HD2 because i see exactly where this is headed.
I don't want to blame them. They let me open six or seven warbonds for FREE (playing until level 130) and enjoy the contents. If this was a different game, DLCs would have smashed my wallet…
At least give them credit where it is due shams said they are testing things out for the superstore and if we dont like it he told us that we just give them feedback for what we dont like
Honestly I don’t mind spending $20. It only costed me $10 when I spent whatever super credits I had stored. The way I see it, it’s returning the favor to arrowhead for such a great game. $40 for the game. Not crazy on micro transactions compared to other games. Developers listen to community feedback
I. Glad the armor and gun are trash. Same as the knight and constitution. Nostalgia is weak that's balanced. I still want knight buff now eventually it will be free some how to encourage sales lol
Yeah, the frame loss compared to yesterday is nuts, the clearly messed something up, again with a simple cosmetic update. I swear this has to be one of the least consistent games I've seen in modern times. The not warbond is setting too much of a bad precedent, we have been getting less and less content with each successive warbond. We get less and less "free" content as well, remember just a few months we'd get several support weapons, and stratagems. Now? We got half of a factions with not so great optimization and that's it, then a paid warbond with stratagems.
20$ worth of super credits for some generally mid cosmetics in my opinion (only thing i like was the helmet) plus a light armor penetrating assault rifle and some decent background art... Id be willing to spend 10, MAYBE 12-15$ but the gun would have to be a little better but then also i would be annoyed because theyre locking a good weapon behind a paywall so 🤷♂️ either way generally ass im not buying any of it im focusing on buying warbonds
Its like the liberator is the standard for assault rifles and im so not digging it they need to look at the repormand smg if they want to know what an assault rifle should do
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The monetization reeks of Sony interference.
Concord tax
That’s maybe because Guerilla games (the dev of Killzone) gets royalties from the collab
Concord tax
nah, Shams said its entirely on them
it's a collab in which the stuff is optional to get because nothing is better than what exists rn
These people have continually proven to not care about their players and people still glaze them and blame Sony. Crazy
Concord Tax 💀
GOAT
Real
😂😂
So far the only genuinely good thing (imo) out of Concord is that episode from Secret Level.
OhDough, you called it. Putting weapons/stratagems or unique items in the super store is them slowly testing the water. Again, "we don't want fomo guys." I blame Sony.
Shams literally confirmed the pricing and choice to put the items in the store is 100% on arrowhead.
@@Shadowdash66X stop blaming Sony AH is not blameless dog
At least you can finally now play as the good guys in Helldivers 2
Save your supercredits boys.....
Spent most of mine for this last WB, I don't farm like some of these guys because I already had a full time job.
@@hawk9mm good choice, if you where to buy the entire store for 2k it would take about 10 hours of active grinding on lvl 1 missions
Havent bought a WB since Polar Patriots until the Uban Legends WB dropped. Unless it brings useful items Im not touching anything
@icedoutskynight maybe if I was guaranteed to get 50 sc per run maybe but at this point I maybe see 20 or less. Sometimes none at all.
@@icedoutskynightI HUST grinded 770 in just over one hour. It was with a team of 4 but still it’s totally doable haha
We need to be harsh. There are several issues with this:
1. This should NOT be on the fomo-inducing store, it should be a permanent, optional DLC or made available in an actual Warbond with other content.
2. The AR is creatively bankrupt at this point. Like come on, why is it basically a reskinned, standard Liberator with Light Armor Penetration?
3. Yet another boring AR shows how lame all the ARs are. Every single AR should go up in Armor Penetration category, minus special versions like Liberator Carbine which is almost like a pseudo SMG & Liberator Penetrator which should do Heavy Armor Pen.
4. The entire armor system needs a massive rework & they need to allow some version of armor crafting, where we can change the armor buffs around. It's ultra lame as it is and I am NOT going to spend money on armor DLC.
5. The prices on these things can no longer be considered "micro" - these are macrotransactions.
I agree with everything you just typed. But to add onto point 4 the game director says “muh classes” despite armour passives being mostly hot garbage aside from the new armour passive and medic armour.
@@elfireii328 The really frustrating thing is, this is now the community's game. They need to take a note from Space Marine 2 devs. & change their internal philosophy; they are providing a SERVICE to their playerbase. Additionally, they really shouldn't take this game so seriously, unlike SM2 where changes have to be signed off by Games Workshop.
Liberator Penetrator with heavy pen would too much honestly. Agreed on other points though
@@elfireii328I don’t mind the extra grenades for certain builds and the viper commando perk.
First time we see Killzone content in like a decade and it's microtransaction cosmetics and another ceremonial gun in Helldivers 2. We saving two games with this one, boys.
but Steller blade and COD did this too
@IsaacChoo88 at least it was purely cosmetic in cod.
tbf i was hoping the rifle and the smg was a Cosmetic that will switch animation when skin is apply. cuz it no point of buying it which is very god damn expensive from a non-killzone fan POV
@@IsaacChoo88 I had no idea. Something to look forward to when Stellar Blade drops on PC, I guess.
I really wish they upped the fire resistant armor to 80% like the gas.... Do 80% / 95 % Resistance across the board. You burn up so quickly.
Nah that would remove a main reason to buy freedoms flame war bond
@@mechamenace-le9qi he's talking about the armor from freedoms flame
@@mechamenace-le9qi i think he means for the freedoms flame armor specifically
@@Grassouillelafripouilleoof my bad yea isn’t it like 75%? It should be upped idk why they have the resistances different across the board but it may be because of planets like hellmire where they still wanted it to be a threat and not completely negated
Or better yet. Give self damage immunity
The solution would be to make it so we can equip any passive on any armor. I hate having to pick armor based off of perks.
No, it will make armor design pointless. Real solution is one fixed passive, one changeable passive, for example, Medic armor can’t change its stim buff, but you can change whether it gives you extra stim or genade or faster reload etc.
@@AlaiasAliasor just balance passives a bit and move the minor ones to helmets
@@AlaiasAlias Strange how Destiny has been doing moddable gear.. I think since D1 and that hasn't been an issue for "armor design" so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Imagine if they added a heavy armor set that grants 2 primary slots instead of a secondary, or dual secondary but its behind a paywall in the store
Don’t give them ideas 😅
For the record, I doubt this collab cost Sony anything... because it's a Sony game. Which should literally cost them nothing.
This was originally planned to be a warbond but somewhere down the line at Sham's admission the team decided to just sell it to us at an absurd price. The prices are beyond egregious, 2k super credits for half of a warbond worth of content is disgusting.
fomo store back at it again. is it just me or are these prices rising?
Prob cuz collab
Prices rising??? Try skyrocketing! 1975 total for the entire set. That's 2 warbonds for like ¼th the content! Damn the world's economy is going to hell with these inflation rates!
Rising and we get half of what we used to get just 5 months ago. That should tell you everything. We're nothing but pay-pigs to Arrowhead.
What fomo when the shop is constantly rotating with same stuff?
1000,1500,1975 yep definitely rising
If this gun was the best AR in the game so far then people would massively complain. So, I, for one, am glad it is not worth the money.
are we being punished for liking this game and not concord and the like?
Yes.
Oh no poor little arrowhead getting pushed around by mean Sony. Our perfect little company could never be behind something like thi-.. Ah shit they are.
? Idk what Concord has to do with this lol, but I don't think so.
@@themajesticspider-man6116 We call it the accursed Concord Tax. In other words, Sony's pissy that Concord and Lego Horizon Zero Dawn failed, so they're taking it out on us to try and squeeze out some more money.
But from what Shams said himself, they themselves decided to do this. So... we've got our rightful punching bag. That idiot.
Feels like it.
If I remember well this gun used to have a underbarel shotgun. It's a miss.
That was the first 2 games, not sure about the others though. Would have been cool but not 615 cool.
@hawk9mm The weapon is based off of the killzone 2 variant
had a built in sight too
@@sgt.mohawk2499 Only the StA-52 in KZ3 had a built in Holo sight. The KZ2 rifle was just irons.
Could you not have a sick drifting montage in the background next time, it was hard to divert my attention from that and actually listen
If they want money they should add armor color patterns for like ~250 SC. A requested nice-to-have feature from players, and something that I don't think people would complain about if monetized
Remember when games could just dish out free DLC size of the new game like Witcher 3 Blood and Wine?
So yeah, forget it. Devs made hundreds of millions and it wasn't enough, need to cover the Concord fumble.
Blood and wine wasn't free, but it was 15 pounds, and offered at least 30 hours of content that was extremely high value content too. In contrary AH release the first part of a 2 part selection of armour and guns that will probably total almost 4,000 super credits. If you were to buy all of that with money it would come to well over 30 pounds, which is more than double the price of the one of the best dlcs of all time for two armour sets and two guns. 😬
@@ungobungo7986akshually, it's 3 guns ☝️🤓
womp womp devs gotta cover their payroll, you got a bunch of free content with the latest warbond and the new illuminate but still a bunch of complaining.
@@Ricardo-hv8mo Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile...
@@Ricardo-hv8mo yeah, sure, sorry.
I must just pay my Concord tax or stop complaining
Killzone skins will forever be one of the dopest skins, I definitely had to get the set
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The ISA uniforms would have been cool but they tended not to have full face masks, at least 1 and 2.
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@@hawk9mm true yes they look cool if they had the tactical helmet on for sure
@@KhoiGOthat said, not 2k SC worthy though.
I think the armor should of originally worked like you can pick what 2 armor passives you want whitch makes customization much better and allows for armor to be more of a cosmetic than something that you have to deal with if you want that specific passive
I’d love a basic color pallet. Keep the textures of gear the same but let you dye it red or black or whatever.
Not the glazer hat 😭🤣
I fear this may be the harbinger of mtx enshittification.
Idk. Sony has been trying to kill newer better games that are not quite on the political side.
Warhammer sold out to Amazon, killing floor 3’s director was fired due to using social media comments regarding sane thoughts.
Helldivers 2 is next in the chopper. Sony has been at it for a while.
@@epgamer1145 This apparently isn't on Sony this time, I keep seeing comments about some dev or PR rep from AH stating that this was totally their decision, price and all.
Doesn't the AR have a shotgun on the bottom in KZ? Should've gave it a alt-fire mode to switch to and have medium pen on it.
It’s showing it at the bottom
@@epgamer1145that’s the flashlight
That would definitely would be cool but that gun never had that
@@shotgun_daddy-1089 Then you never played 1 or 2, it did, it was it's major point, the ISA's AR had the GL, the Hellgast had the masterkey shotgun underbarrel.
Not know any gun in Killing Zone, i really thought that the thicc flash light at the bottom front of the gun is a grenade launcher. Now that i used it, super underwhelming for that price. Atleast give me med armor pen cuz rn it feel like using a normal liberator with some extra ammo, recoil and no scope attached
2000 super credits for a garbage ass assault rifle, armor, helmet, cape, title. That’s the price of TWO full Warbonds… coming off the tail of a Warbond, superstore reset (hi baton), then a crossover… I can smell the greed through the screen
It's been so long since we've had something to unlock with samples and requisition. I wouldn't even care if super credits were interesting to farm, or if there was a better way to target them. As it stands its better to play on the lowest difficulty to farm super credits, which is honestly really boring.
Make booba armor, make 💰💰💰
This is just the first wave as well the other skin is the sniper enemy from kill zone so the leaked sniper is probably going to be in the shop with it
Dough think about it buying the all of the premium superstore (including the second wave) its basicly buying the game again
The gun isn't worth $6. In that it's not good enough to warrant costing $6 and even if it was no singular weapon should ever cost that much in a game.
"You can farm super credits you know." It cost 650 Super Credits. That is over half the cost of a War Bond. If I'm taking the time to farm up and save 650 Super Credits then I'm just going to go ahead and get the last 350 for the next war bond.
Maybe I'm a hater. Killzone isn't a franchise I hold near and dear to my heart. The armor looks cool but it isn't cooler than what we already have and the passive screams "I expect to get hurt by either myself or my teammates." I hate the fact Player Cards are in the Super Store, because they're tied to capes. I don't hate capes being in the Super Store, but I'm never spending 75 credits for a Player Card. And I'm sure not spending 90 for one because it's from a collaboration.
I don't like this. The pricing is so, SO awful, the designs break from the established style by being just a straight rip of the hellghast designs from killzone, and of course as you stated putting weapons in the premium store is no bueno.
I just don't get this company, it's like they HAVE to shoot themselves in the foot every time they recover from a controversy they caused from a previous instance of shooting themselves in the foot. What is their problem? Just... Stop fucking shit up while you're ahead!
when the video started to stutter I thought my computer was having issues lol
This entire game has been consistently disappointing, they go through waves of doing something good and then immediately killing any good will, I haven’t played in 8 months because I’m still waiting on the shocking lack of cross progression but I’ve been checking in and it’s literally every other update, it’s comical
Almost two times the price for not even a third of a warbond.
Crazy
5:49 i wish it were true but they literally released the god awful weapons that kick like a mule like a month ago with that one warbond
I'm a huge Killzone fan, and the Helghast rifle is imo one of the coolest AR's in gaming. It was the first AR I ever saw in a game that had an underbarrel shotgun, and it had a huge mag size in relation to its TTK in Killzone 1. It just being a liberator with slightly higher mag size and better ROF is such a complete slap in the face of the sta-52, *AND* it's $6 worth of super credits. I know they probably aren't ever going to have underbarrel attachments. But they could have at least balanced the gun around being a high capacity tenderizer, since the gun had a high DPS in Killzone, and it's expensive af. I was excited when I saw the leaks because I love Killzone. But at this point, I'll probably just get the SMG coming in later, because we have so few of those right now. And I'll get the armors for the drip. But I'm massively disappointed in this collab.
"When you make things that look nice, who cares if they work well?" This is true. This should be where the money is.
But also, if that AR had an alt-fire where the bottom part was a grenade launcher, I would take it even for this price as I am a sucker for Underbarrel Grenade Launchers.
But that is just me. Having the set in a more expensive warbond would have been the better option in my opinion.
To me the rifle feels like a worse Sickle. The recoil and reload time suck. The only downside of the Sickle by comparison, is the slight wind-up. Plus, the Sickle has a scope.
And the armor is not impressive at all, it just looks cool. A passive that isn't good at any one thing is just mediocre at everything, pass.
Live service honeymoon is going to end eventually
i love the wasp, its really good at sniping overseers and watchers, i mean it sucks absolute dog water at killing harvesters but its like a spear for medium enemies
ya ive already uninstalled. they are just "testing the waters" my ass, this is gunna be the new norm. i refuse to continue when they say they wernt gunna sell power, but do it anyway. ya done fucked up AH and sony. too many games took this rout and now are just empty cash grabs.
the wasp animation of holding and holster is perfect for a minigun strategem if AH ever get into that
Or the HMG with a backpack or the MGs in general with a backpack.
I was really hyped for what could be the first new marksman (not counting ajudicator launch). Seems like its going to set me back 600 credits.
It’s not good, save your SC.
6 dollars for a weapon… those sound like valorant numbers.
The Finals has better monetization than basically every single game I've played. Wish more games were like that. Instead of the fomo stuff, its just cosmetics that were recently added to the game and whatever isn't in the list you can buy whenever you want. And if you buy a bundle its always on a discount. Some thing cost actual money but those bundles that require real dollars will always come with in game store credits according to the respective price.
I hate all the fomo stuff that are in video games, you'd probably make more money the way The Finals is doing it and keep your community happy.
If the monetization was this way in helldivers I'd give this game a 9/10 instead of a 7/10. They still need to add more stuff.
(and also the gameplay is just super awesome + the trailers).
hear me out Concord crossover but its free because no one will buy it lmao
Holy Concord tax dear lord, hard pass
Prices rising and timer FoMO-ing
they need to rework the armor penetration system, like light pen is 50% damage on medium armor and 25% damage on heavy armor instead of 0 damage for example
Honest to god would be far better.
That and the durable damage system, we have like 3 different potential damage modifiers in the game, base damage, penetration ratings and durable damage and or maybe include some weak point damage. They need to streamline it to just 1 or 2 and stop hiding what stats to show the player, this whole "we don't want the game to be a numbers game" is a bs excuse to not give the paying customer and player as much information as you can provide.
Light pen is good against the illuminate right now. I’ve actually been able to use weapons I haven’t used in months like the liberator and other light pen weapons.
What’s maddening is it was originally suppose to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, and i bet damn Sony changed that, perchance to pay the concord tax. We’ll be getting a beefier knight and a plasma pulse rifle next Monday with the second batch
"I wont buy the baton because it will set a bad prescedence" -ohdough
Called it two days prior damn. Ohdoughs always up
We need a transmog system or let us choose 2 perks to put on any armor. That would be great. I don’t wear 90% of the chest pieces because of the perks.
I hope they just lower it down and refund the people who already bought it some of the super credits back.
Or get rid of the timer
I think that armor is the only acid resist so far.
yea
Im so glad I had enough credits saved to get the armor set for free, Im not buying anything else if its gonna be this overpriced and limited time, sucks too I love Killzone and I was super excited for this crossover
Not just the frames but I've been having frequent connection errors vs Illuminate. I think they're after my router. Cook calamari, Helldivers.
If they would have released the warbond and price it at 20-25$ most people woul have bought it and they have a reaspn to grind the game if they are maxed out on everything. Right now, this sucks. I only bought the helmet and cape with credits I grinded.
Also single fire doesnt even work for some guns because the rounds dont go where youre aiming they fire in a spread cone, if youre in first person looking down iron sights tap firing a SMG or assault rifle a lot of the rounds fly left or right/up or down from where youre actually aiming so again, tap fire doesnt mean anything
we’re paying for their failure on concord 😂
Crazy thumbnail!!!
2:50 There hasn’t been a good light pen weapon since the Sickle energy rifle. Everything else is pretty much useless, Stalwart included.
The gun doesn't even come remotely close to being worth 300 super credits, much less over 600. The armor looks decent but the passive is deceptively useless since it's very rare to encounter all of the things it protects against and you're instead far better off using an armor that protects against specific things. The only thing I'd say worth getting is just the title and maybe the cape and that's about it.
Overall this is both massively overpriced _and_ extremely disappointing, a very very bad combination if Sony is looking to make money. Very hard pass
BOOM you answered your own question, no one is forcing you to buy it lmfao
@@Zebrastripegum-m2j Wow it's almost like another company got sued for this exact reason. Also it's content in a game where content isn't released often so of course he would want it. Don't be a glaze diver.
@@BearDude2311 Glazer diver?? What in the fuck are you talking about lmfao, I haven't made ANY purchase since this dropped, because again, I wasn't forced to buy it, dumb f*** 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BearDude2311 Glaze diver? What in the fuck are you talking about?? I haven't made ANY purchase ever since this dropped, because again, I wasn't forced to buy, dumb **** 🤣🤣
The performance of the gun is NOT the problem man, the price is too high.
The gun performs great for what it does (a light assault weapon, for light enemies (Voteless mayhaps?) And it's recoil can be phased out once you play with the gun for a game or 2, it's not as bad as the adjudicator).
it performing great among weapons that aren't good to begin with isn't a goal to be proud of.
I really like the look of the chest piece. Just did some super credit farming for an hour and got lucky with a 100 drop. Wasn't a big deal tbh. Got 600-700 and wasn't trying that hard.
man i watch you since helldiver2 release for your honest opinion, keep it up!
Fuckin $40 total for less shit you get than you normally would get spending $10... Shameful 😂
God we need a new killzone game 😢
Throw hate at me, don't care, this game went pre 60 day update kind of garbage right now. Weapons garbage and game crashing almost every mission. Its like they don't bother testing anything. Just throw it out there and watch the heads bob up and down.
half the cost of a warbond for a gun that's on-par with the STARTER weapon and another half the cost of a warbond for an armour with 4 half-resists
Yeaaaaaah, No.
A shame as the last warbond had some really nice kit within and then AH screw up their goodwill once again on a bunch of excessively priced FOMO BS now clogging up the formerly 90% cosmetics store.
Not helped in that a single warbond costs 1/.4 the price of the game at launch so this "collab" of 2 "viable" items is charging 1/4 the cost of an ENTIRE GAME while also leaning into FOMO tactics instead of making it a simple buyer-aware warbond.
what weapon is that at 1:33 ?
its the new w.a.s.p. weapon
Will admit the wasps launcher and StA 52 AR look really good
Every single part of this is over-priced and should have been a part of a warbond.
Here comes the Concord tax.
That wasp needs better sounds and... *_stronger rockets._*
Fine with the Armor but weapons in the store... I draw the line their. Plus why are we constantly testing strategems? Just give it to us. Same with the FRV. Lore based time gates is not the way to go AH.
Edit: I may stop playing HD2 because i see exactly where this is headed.
I don't want to blame them. They let me open six or seven warbonds for FREE (playing until level 130) and enjoy the contents.
If this was a different game, DLCs would have smashed my wallet…
This would of been better as a warbond. I would of been fine if it was 2500 creds
Should have been collab with space marine 2, what the hell was killzone?
Im mad i bought that shitty gun
At least give them credit where it is due shams said they are testing things out for the superstore and if we dont like it he told us that we just give them feedback for what we dont like
you might want to check out the black hole :D
WHERES THE HALO CROSSOVER!!!
Arrowhead would have to talk with Microsoft and 343, in order to get to some sort of deal, to have a license in order to make such crossover.
They can keep that shit
eh, illuminates provided light pen a use, but I use tenderizer more bcs its variable fire rate
Crazy thumbnail BTW.
with the red drum mag I thought it would finally be a fire ammo AR which would have been incredible but also terrible because pay to win
Honestly I don’t mind spending $20. It only costed me $10 when I spent whatever super credits I had stored. The way I see it, it’s returning the favor to arrowhead for such a great game. $40 for the game. Not crazy on micro transactions compared to other games. Developers listen to community feedback
I don't even see the wasp or whatever it is :/
I. Glad the armor and gun are trash. Same as the knight and constitution. Nostalgia is weak that's balanced. I still want knight buff now eventually it will be free some how to encourage sales lol
I have over 100,000 supercredits from farming while my leg was recovering from an injury. Helmet and armor look sick. Bought it with no hesitation.
100k jezzus fuck
@@W_PFP you can if you played after initial release date i got 150k sc when map locking exploit still working. Dive. Farm. Alt+f4. Repeat
@@divinedragonkirrsounds like a very boring time
Yeah, the frame loss compared to yesterday is nuts, the clearly messed something up, again with a simple cosmetic update. I swear this has to be one of the least consistent games I've seen in modern times.
The not warbond is setting too much of a bad precedent, we have been getting less and less content with each successive warbond. We get less and less "free" content as well, remember just a few months we'd get several support weapons, and stratagems. Now? We got half of a factions with not so great optimization and that's it, then a paid warbond with stratagems.
I guess a collab with a series not dead for over a decade was too much to hope for 😂
Killzone was top tier. It's a shame it's been ignored.
What else would Sony use? They have nothing left.
20$ worth of super credits for some generally mid cosmetics in my opinion (only thing i like was the helmet) plus a light armor penetrating assault rifle and some decent background art... Id be willing to spend 10, MAYBE 12-15$ but the gun would have to be a little better but then also i would be annoyed because theyre locking a good weapon behind a paywall so 🤷♂️ either way generally ass im not buying any of it im focusing on buying warbonds
i pay to support them
just bought lol looks sick
Its like the liberator is the standard for assault rifles and im so not digging it they need to look at the repormand smg if they want to know what an assault rifle should do
You mean have built in bloom and 50% recoil and handling stats? No thanks. Damage sure but everything else about that pos is not healthy for the game.
I don't even know what killzone is