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Cycling NEEDS more of Primoz Roglic & Chris Horner !
Primoz has won almost every stage race, including the Vuelta a few weeks ago. He's a legend and commenters who don't agree don't know much. 🛋️🦋
Still the biggest Race missing unfortunately
You are absolutely right 👍
True. Just need the yellow to top it off.
Agreed 100%. Roglic is a legend already. Yet so many people don’t believe you and me. 😂🦋👊
Rog the 3rd best rider? 👊
He’s not even a member of the big 3 club:
1) Tadeh
2) Yonas
3) Remmy
4) RogCrashMagnet
I would love to see Primoz have a healthy crash free Tour.... would love to see him end his career with a Yellow Jersey. The man is tough as nails.
Wouldn’t matter if he’s healthy. He’s 4th best at the moment. Great career and tough as nails no doubt though.
Hey, if you catch this CH, why hasn’t Vingegaard been racing? Is he in recovery mode? Thanks for all that you do, to not only educate us, but also for your foundation, and what you do for the sport of cycling. 👊🦋🇨🇭
@@swisstopia Vigo is out of racing because of family time. His wife just have a new born.
I think Jonas said he was taking some family time. 🤔🦋👍
Yes. Just racing 100% healthy. 👊🦋
My heart skipped a beat, thumbnail had me shook.😂
😂👊🦋
❤️
Huge fan of his, hope he keeps riding as long as possible. He has absolutely best interviews too
He wants to try out for the Winter Olympics
Chris, its amazing that you raced against Primoz in 2015! I had to look up the results from the Tour d'Azerbaïdjan and 4th on gc with the same time as 2nd is very impressive especially at your advanced age, but I'd expect nothing less from the oldest grand tour winner in the galaxy!
Primoz has another 8 years to take that record
And pog will need 17 more years of racing
It only took about ten kilometers in the break with Roglic for me to see how good he was. Then I was a knucklehead and went to take my vest off at a very bad time. And Roglic was gone up the road. 🤪😂🦋👊💪
Primoz and Remco are not bike racers originally, you can tell that, they just don’t think like a bike racer - they think like traditional athletes. The difference between them and everyone outside of the top 10-12 riders in the world is their sheer natural talent. While people talk about how good Tadej is, I actually think Primoz is probably the most naturally gifted given how late he took the sport up.
That picture of a young rog crushing road riders on a climb some Walmart-ass mountain bike wearing running shoes during a Slovenian open race will always get a chuckle from me
*riding some Walmart-ass bike
As a naturally talented athlete Primoz is probably the best. Remember how he was discovered for cycling-when a test of the VO2 Max of the ski jumpers revealed his was through the roof, sky high and the doctor said he was wasting his talents and he is born cyclist.
Pog however is naturally born cyclist, probably the best cyclist in the entire history.
Pog was s very versatile and successful athlete in his younger years.
From football, running, trail running, you name it.
Of course he decided for professional cycling very early.
Roglic is one of my favorite competitors. If he's being a funny liar during pre-race interviews, then I can tell that him and his team have a winning plan, e.g. earlier this year, he said before a race "I don't care if we win the race", and then he ended up winning the race.
Roglic gives so many bad interviews (not telling us anything helpful) that I have almost wanted to stop listening to them. But then, every once in while, Roglic can’t help himself, and then bam, he gives a fantastic one. 😂🤪🦋👊
Primož is probably the most resilient rider out there. He's come through so much adversity in his career, and some of his greatest triumphs have come after his most crushing defeats (and/or crashes). He has human vulnerabilities which make his victories that much more satisfying. There may be one or two cyclists who have greater ability than Rog, but there are none with greater heart.
Primoz is fun to watch! Hope he does not retire soon.
Thanks, Chris for breaking this all down so thoroughly and making our appreciation richer and deeper-
Totally agree. Rogla lights up the races he is in. Which he could stay out of the crashes and give Jonas and Tadej a run for their money on the Tour next year. Still, I think Bora has to step up a notch or two as a team to enable Rogla to compete for the GC victory.
Bora have this really incredible team. But they also don’t know when and where everyone will be really incredible. For sure though at some race some where they will be. 🤔💪🦋👊
Much as I love the man, Primoz will never win the Tour. Nobody will in the next couple of years. Except Pog.
I love Rogo, hope he get to make another run in top form at the tour I would love to see him win it as well the final piece to his palmaries ❤
I agree. I hope all four of the contenders and their teams come into the Tour de France healthy next year. I got down on Primoz and Jonas Vingegaard when they both attacked their race leading teammate at the 2023 Vuelta but Roglic definitely deserves better luck in 2025. That second crash at the Tour was just brutal. A rider slides all the way across the road over the raised median and takes down Roglic like it was a paid hit. Nobody could have prevented that one.
Ponosen sem kot Slovenec na Pogija, vendar Primož je še vedno v srcih Slovencev ljubljenec , ker je sposoben boljšemu čestitati ob porazu in je pravi športnik. Vse priznanje g.Chrisu dobro ga pozna. Vsem ljubiteljem kolesarstva pozdrav iz Slovenije. Gremo Primož !!!
Cav had many unlucky seasons in a row but was able to show this year that he could still hit that world class form. I think the same is possible for Roglic too and I’m really hoping to see it!
Rogla is really good it's just a shame, he started biking late in his life...vamos primož vamos muchacho1
Love seeing him ride well. great rider.
Primoz Roglic did not crash and learned to make good use of his new team mates in the Vuelta. I think he's maturing into a responsible team leader.
🤞🦋👍
It is different for him in Spain. The gravity is not as strong there as in France. 😅
Every race primoz dont fall is a celebration over here
It's really beautiful to see how resillient he is against all the setbacks
Thanks chris and garrett for your time 🦋
I agree that Primoz is one of the top 3 or 4, but not sure how you think he could ever be at the level of Pogi. Have you ever seen Primos have the ability to leave everyone way behind? When Primos was at his best, he got beaten by a young kid called Pogacar, and now that young kid is coming into his prime. He doesn't stand a chance against Pogi now.
Oh you only watch the tour
The young kid called Baby Pog was neatly handed his tiny ass over to him by Primoz in 2019 Vuelta 😅
Of course times are different now, Baby Pog turned into Pog the Destroyer and Primoz is entering the last years of his career so of course he is not able to compete with the best cyclist in the history of cycling anymore.
Try to find the video of Slovenian championship, you will see Roglic sprinting away from Pogacar 😉
This echoes thoughts I've been having all season. It's astonishing what Roglic has achieved despite facing so many challenges. I love Pogi but he should thank his lucky stars that Roglic doesn't have the best bike-handling skills, gets easily distracted too often, and has just plain bad luck sometimes. Because bike-handling skills and focus are solvable problems. And if Roglic solves those problems, he could easily become Pogi's worst nightmare.
Bike handling Is part of Cycling but despite that in which competition roglic has a chance against pogi or vingo the only year where he had team and good legs he Lost tò a 20 years old. Ok It was pogi but still It was his First tour and he had a Monster team with domulain and wva and still manager tò lose. Good rider yes but he can only win with pogi and Jonas out
Right. I agree with you. All of Roglic’s problems could be solved, it seems anyways. Certainly riders such as Pinot never were able to completely solve their problems, so we have seen good riders retire before they did. But there is still time for Roglic 🤔🦋👍🤞
Whatever he does. All the best to him. 🙏
Never too late to develop and strengthen our weaknesses. No matter how long we’ve been active in our craft. I agree with you, Chris.
My heart sank several times seeing you crash Chris. Similar feeling watching Rimoz crash. Love to see two great competitors race like the wind for the win. Yes, I vote for Primoz to stay and display good form because he is a proven competitor in a grueling sport.
I would hate to see Primoz retire.
With every crash comes time for contemplation. His career stands for itself, excellent pro with an ability to teleport to victories up most climbs, tremendous flair and style on the bike despite his (many) crashes. Racecraft wise your point stands. Not the ultimate touch and feeling that riders like Tadej Pogacar and Mathieu van der Poel have
Can handle the brutal pressure that comes with crashes and a view missed opportunities at the Ultimate price. Bounced back every time. Strong and full of grit. Despite cycling being a team sport which he understands. A man of his own and he can do what he wants to do.
If he keeps the bike upright he can ride with anyone and win anything. That said, unfortunately I think the lasting image for many fans will be the ITT at the TDF in 2020. I'll never forget watching the timer on the screen as Roglic's buffer kept getting lower and lower and then went into the red, then the look on his face as he approached the finish. Really bad day.
Yep. That one impression is hard to forget. 😱😬🦋🙈👀
Tadej is poetry in motion on a bike - his vision and positioning are uncanny.
I hope Primoz stays, but it's too late for him to acquire TP's vision/race-craft.
(Also someone should tell primoz that his TT bike changes are costing him time)
here, here
Roglic has not done a tt except at Basque Country (which he won) when he was 100% fit. This season. That said, Remco is still a very special TT rider also, which won’t help Roglic look very good in a tt to often. 🦋🤔👍
@@ChrisHornerCycling Yeah, these coming years Kid will be untouchable in TTs. Unless they are a bit hilly where Pog will beat him.
The racecraft of Pog- positioning, vision, timing etc could only be matched by that of Sagan.
Primoz is my favorite of the top 4. Wout is right there for me. You have to hand it to Tjadeh. MDP too. Thanks to Chris -- he's a teacher. Should be a coach.
I don't want to see Primoz retire. Maybe he's in his feelings right now. Like many others posted, other racers have had terrible crashes, down seasons, and lost form. But nearly all of them came back and performed admirably. Even our man, Chris, has had his fair share of gnarly crashes and come back from them.
Yes on all counts. And the reason I criticize Primoz for all of his crashes in big races is because he deprives us of exciting GC battles we'd all like to see. 100 percent right about Tadej -- he is so savvy about avoiding body slams into the pavement, even when it looks like he's being super aggressive. On top of everything else. Thanks for all your expert commentary this year.
Disagree over Roglic being as good as Pogacar. A 21yo Pogacar without a team beat a prime Roglic in 2020. This year version of Pogacar is the best rider ever.
He isn't as good as Pog. Nobody is.
Nice to see that you are gaining subs...keep up the good work
And with the Horners, Roglic is even better!
Roglic: "Chris relax. The only thing I will ever re-tire, is the worn-out rubber on my rims!"
fascinating take. I hope you’re vindicated!
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Primoz is the man, along with🎉 Victor!! 😂
My man 😂👊🦋
Our man!
Maybe training wheels on Rogla's bike would do the trick? ;)
Right on Chris 💯 I was wondering if he might be thinking about hanging it up. Just the way he rode the World Championships and his overall happiness. I definitely want him to get as close as possible to your record 🙌💫 ! I can totally see why he was disappointed at not winning the Vuelta last year because how many times will you have the chance to win two Grand Tours in a season. 🖖 Thanks for all the great chats ! 🦋💫👊
. . . and We appreciate Chris Horner.
Primoz iz amazing and I hope he keeps racing for many more years. BUT...Tadej has progressed so much since 2020 he's now better than Primoz in every aspect of bike racing by at least one step, if not more. Race craft, awareness, bike stability, tactics, endurance, recovery, change of pace, long hills, short hills, steep heels, decent, time trial, day races, one week races, grand tours, team strength. Primoz in top form doesn't beat Tadej in any of those individual aspects of bike racing, let alone in a combination of them in a 3 week race in a grand tour. That's even before we consider time is not on Priomoz's side. It's really hard to see where Primoz would take any time from Tadej, unless he's injured or he's covering off Vingo / Remco.
For example, just look at how hard Primoz had to work for the Giro win against Thomas in 2023 and Tadej just wiped the floor with Thomas this year.
And Primoz is just not consistent enough in a 3 week race to be on par with Vingo or Tadej. When was the last time he didn't have a crash or crisis on a grand tour? You just can't have 1,2,3 bad days when going against these two, it's an instant game over. We saw how that went for Tadej in 2023.
In my opinion, Primoz is currently the 4th best grand tour rider, behind Tadej, Vingo and Remco. Can he win the TDF? Very unlikely, unless there are injuries, crosswinds and a LOT of luck on his side. Can he win in other Grand Tours? Yes, that he can.
Primoz has the best chance against Tadej in a one week race - less chance to crash and bonk, while having the energy to rip it in the uphill finish. But I would still give the edge to Tadej, despite the fact that Primoz is on the verge of becoming the first to win all the best one week races (just one to go).
You are allowed to host the show with me because I agree with everything you said, except Remco being better than Roglic. But understand it’s very very close between the two, so I’m ok with you believing it. Even if it’s not true. 😂🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling Just name the time and place and I'll be there! 😂
It would probably still be a tossup between Primoz and Remco. Remco has that brutal time trial that Primoz just can't match. Or anyone else for that matter. How he keeps beating even Gana is beyond me - he's so much smaller and not as still on the bike. It would then be on Primoz to pull back time - before this year's TDF I thought that would be an easy job for Primoz, but I'm not so sure anymore. Remco really impressed me with his consistency and showed signs that he could really match Primoz in the high mountains, while on the short mountain sprints Remco can match and probably beat Primoz and that's saying something, since Primoz has a brutal final short sprint and a ton of wins to support that. With Remco his decision making is a bit suspect, just look at the last two races, so for sure that is something Primoz can exploit.
So in summary - we clearly saw this year that Remco is progressing nicely as a GT rider. He has a trump card with time trialing, great short uphill sprints and decent high mountains, but still has some weaknesses where Primoz can take back time. I'm giving a slight edge to Remco, but not on the level that there's no way that Primoz can do it.
The Alien: Pogacar
The Anchovy: Vingegaard
The Skier: Roglic
The Focusyn: Remco
I don’t mind it this time. Good one savage
Someone has been watching uncle cycling 😂
i like roglic. that dude has zero anxiety and lives in the moment
Chris, don’t hold back! throw down the challenge for oldest grand tour winner in the universe (why stop at galaxy?) with Primoz!
Love ya bro’
Staying healthy is one of the hardest things to do and that is the only way for sports champions to have a long career.
👍 Let's hope for the same "race craft" for Alaphillipe as well!
He is good, but he does hits the headlines in a spectacular fashion. For instance, Primoz win of the Vuelta was a quiet affair compared to vibes drawn by pogacar in the other tours or even the 2023 win by Kruss at the same event. The wins of the MVDP, the Wouts or the Remcos commands bigger vibes. He is of course a fantastic rider.😊
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Primoz is a competitor. I don't think he will retire this winter or next. I think Bora will start getting ready to prepare with a new gc guy though.
So you believe that Roglic left one team only to get the same drama at another. 😱🦋👍🤔
I like drama. 😂🦋👊
Juan Ayuso incoming 2026
Chris! Go work with Primoz..go coach him! If he could race like you did, WOW
It is a bit late for that, don’t you think?
Like Primož is lacking of coaches? He had best coaches existing.
And I believe Primož’s career is a bit better, with all due respect…😅
As good as Pogi is a bit of a stretch! Definitely great though, he needs to work on bike handling and heal from crashes this year and get his head right. Ill add that if Pogi comes in to better form next year than this year the organizers will probably institute a 5Kg weight addition to his bike. 🤣
He has to finish a tdf before he retires man
Official he has finished second and few other spots but I agree with you, that Roglic needs another good try at the TdF for some redemption before he retires. 🤞🦋👍
Primoz is a ski jumper thats good at cycling 😂 never gonna have the bikecraft of Tadej 😂 . But fit and crash free I'd put him as no. 3
Agreed 🤪🦋👊⛷️
Usually agree wholeheartedly, but right now it’s Pogi > Jonas >>>>>> Remco > Primoz.
0400 in Denmark here. Could u make a video about what u think uci should do to make the sport more safe. I rather see my favorite riders on the bike than the hospital ❤
Pro cycling is primo with Primoz. 😀
I don't think people really understand how he was a vital part of Pogachamps world win race, Him, Tracnik, and Pogy worked the perfect plan in my opinion
I think one of the things about Roglic is he's fearless, when I go down a technical hill full gas I get a bit scared and slow down, I don't think Roglic gets that (as much) and I think in a way this is what leads to some of his issues, I don't think the alarm bells start ringing quite so early I'm sure he gets them, but they come on a bit later or when the danger level is already higher.
Most of his crashes are not downhill. The problem is concentration. Same for me. I stay concentrated on downhill.
Why anyone would ask himself if Primoz is going to retire just because after all the crashes and magnificent results in the season is not on his top level at the season end?
He simply needs to be racing with his new team to make it once again a perfection and GO to tour with the best possible options we can be sure that he will do everything possible to beat other riders . 💪
How many more Grand Tours would Geraint of won without the crashes
Old guys don't bounce like they used to. Roglic is still young enough to bounce some but, how long until he gets into the shatter like an egg stage? I wish him the best.
Well said Chris...I suspect he will retain the Veulta regardless...He could make a career out of post ride interviews!
It is of course up to each individual to have opinions on where to rank riders. But I can not see Roglic belong among top three. Vuelta is not high ranked. Winning monuments, WC is bigger. Pogacar, Evenepoel, MvdP are in their own league. Normaly Wout belongs there. Jonas is fourth and Roglic fifth at best.
Yeah, Roglić has been skipping the spring classics altogether in the past three seasons. Plus he didn't beat any of the big boys apart from a still recovering Remco at the Dauphiné. Seeing him finally win the Tour would be great though.
chris ranks gc higher than single day races. rightfully so. mvdp is good example here. he is nowhere in tdf.
1 pog
2 Jonas
3 primoz
4 Ben O'connor
5 Remco
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
apart from Pogî which runs on red wine, the three others which follow are solid wheel suckers
I am not a fan of saying that a sport needs a cyclist. It is the same as saying basketball needs lebron or the nfl needs brady.
There's a quote that goes around by a youtuber called tom scott that goes "all things must end" and that is important for careers. Guys like Primoz will have to end their careers at some point and it's very tough to leave as the no.4 in the world at mountains. I would rather see him go at 4 than stay too long and leave at 40 for example.
There's a great core of riders who can take the mantle so when lance left it was the schleks and contodor, when they left it was wiggins, froome and nibali, and when they left it was thomas, bernal, pogacar and vingegaard. There will always be a new star made no matter how fast or slow the next generation is.
Love Primoz, great bike rider, but if he wants to retire, then that is his choice and he should go with what he thinks is right :)
I’m not a fan of leaving to early either. 👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling i think you chris were the finest of all the wines of cyclists at your position followed by cavendish and valverde.
Everyone's drive and ambition is different and i think most cycling fans want to see prime roglic back to tdf form pre stage 20 so let's see what happens
Love you always and love Primoz, but the fact you even considered that a healthy Primoz could be ahead of Tadej on your list is ludicrous. Tadej is just at another level and has been for the last 5 years despite losing the TDF to a superior team and bad tactics 2 of those years.
I said this countless times - if Roglic manages to avoid those crashes he might be the one rider capable of competing with Pogacar here and there…
Rog is definitely a legend and he’s beaten Pog before and even road him off the wheel (See SLO. National Champs). This years version Pog is scary though. Chris outside of Rog’s ability to win with less than stellar race craft, what are you seeing in Rog that can challenge this years Pog?
All due respect, there is an elephant in the room. And PR and most of the peloton has believe knows it. TP is not clean, not even close. Even your former boss and teammates have all but openly stated this. So this my concern, as should be every fan of cycling; why would PR stay motivated to race when one or more riders have their finger on the scale. He has no chance. UCI clearly must know. So if PR retires it really should not be surprising. TP could easily race for +10 more years, and if left unchecked continue to produce watts/kg that have never been seen before in any sport be it clean or doped athletes. TP is untouchable the way I see it, unless there is a level playing field. Love your show. TP. ……as all the pros are saying “ not normal”…..could not be more true.
The biggest challenge, is knowing how to retire at the right time. 🦋👊👍🇨🇭
what triggered the speculation of Roglic's retirement? Did he give a recent interview indicating as much?
At least (before he retires) Roglic should try to win tour de Suisse and put Big 7! under his belt.
Roglic is one of my favorites. Unfortunately, situational awareness isn’t something that can be taught. It’s an instinct.
No disrespect but do you really see Roglic develop awareness at 35 years of age? I am not saying he cannot develop it seems like he has a lot of hard-wired racecraft at this point.
It looks like Chris’ record is safe for at least another 16 years… Pogacar is only 26 at the moment 😅
Hate to see Primoz go. Tadej can ride,not like Pidcock or Hirschi, but lovely on the bike.
Do you think roglic and also remco are crashing so often because they came from other sports and didnt come up the «right» way like pogacar who began riding at like age 6
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3ATGL 👊🦋🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Chris has taught me a lot about strategy a new quite a bit before I started watching years ago and I think I know it's probably just about as much as anybody now other than the professional writers themselves. But I sure get tired of having to hear a plug about how great he's been on every damn video we records anymore. And he's the only guy that lived in the dope culture that won't admit that he's took dope he took dope. Especially when he's talking about being the universe champion of the oldest Grand Tour winner
You are very biased and I like it.
With all of the major crashes Roglic has had and his age, you gotta start wondering how much more can his body take. He's gotta be taking a fistful of Tylenol every day as it is. Might not hurt him to do some of the less challenging cyclocross races, just for the bike handling skills he could pick up. He's gotta do something to level up his bike handling skills.
How to you compare Roglic to Wout as he also crashes alot
Somewhere far far away in the Galaxy, there are two solar systems that look like a wheel set, 700c as detected by the Very Large Array Radio Telescope Director Dr. Horner. Wait a minute, what is the answer to everything? Was it not '42'? Hmm
Primoz came to cycling late and sure AF I hope he will hang the cleated shoes very late too. One of my favourite riders. I rooted for him to win the Tour 2020 but then Baby Pog came and spoiled the party.
But yeah, his bike handling skills and situational awareness are not up there with guys like Pog and Sagan who grew up on a bike and that's pretty obvious.
He's a legend. Not good for the sport or his team. He likes riding to much to quit anyway. If you did hear it, it's probably him messing with the media
LOL..Now this is a better title. Not about Primoz don't retire. Primoz hasn't been had a plan to retire any time soon.
You really set an optimal Primoz on first place next to Pogacar? Don't get me wrong, i love Primoz and I can get behind that in GC and brutal hill/mountain 1 day races but take a look at the spring races like Vlaanderen and even the Amstel Gold Race. I don't see him doing anything like what Pogacar has done. Still i hope he will continue racing for a good few years and join you on the 40+ GC winners bench
Primoz does not have the character of Tadej. Do you think that matters, Chris? Primoz lost me in the 2023 season when he burned his Jumbo teammate so blatantly. Character and judgement do matter.
Would like to hear what you think about that time in the past with Sepp. Primoz lost me there, i can’t get behind him like you do, but I’m just a schmuck cyclist, not a wise ex-pro like you. Thank you for all your videos and hard work, I learn so much from you.
A question , when riding in the peleton do u have to be focused 100% of the time for all those hours
Sometimes yes. But not at all the races. Depends on the courses and how hard everyone wants to race a certain course. 🤔🦋👊
I think he goes one more year until Remco gets there in 2026
Seriously, you think Primoz is at Tadej’s level if both are healthy? While I agree he is number 3, I would say the delta between 1/2 is huge and 2/3/4 much smaller.
no rainbow for primoz but the curse is on him ! njoylife
I didn't hear the rumors of his retirement. Didn't he just start with a new team?
Primoz is great but stating that he is similar to Pogacar makes no sense. He has a great final, like Pogacar, but Pogacar has way more tools in his bag. Actually he is the one with most tools. No active top rider is capable of doing such a great season as he did. In the way he did.
Nooooooo !! Primoz so classy too. A fan favorite.
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NO WAY PRIMOZ CAN Carry to Horners
Age!! Already had thoughts about
Retirement this summer! He Crashes
Way,way to much plus money is bigger
Now than in 2012.
Primos is a question mark ? Will he ? Can he ? Unfortunately this is somewhat in part to pog winning everything that he enters
The only races that are winnable are the ones that pog doesn’t compete in? And that is boring…to the extent that some are considering retiring?
Sorry guys, I am retiring. I am retiring Pog as the king of the Tour.
TDF crashes as I remember. Motorcycle clips hay bale in 2022, should have bunny hopped it I guess. 2024 Bora is on the back foot and Primoz is in front of his team, cyclist knocked him out. Chris should have given them a knucklehead. The wipe out on the turn after crossing water was a mistake but he's chasing the leaders. Primoz big mistake was not going after more time in the GC at the 2020 TDF. Pogi is riding away from everyone right now but the sport needs a healthy Jonas, Remco, and Primoz at the 2025 TDF.
Primos 👍🏼🚵🏻💯🇸🇮
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No, he is done