Hey y’all I’m now aware of the player character is the hooded figure. Though I will say that if not for that interview with Nomura I think it was still a very solid theory lol
I'd like to point out that while Skuld is not Xenhorts mother she is likely his great grandmother likely with Ephemer. Also the player character seems to have taken in and raised Xenhort in isolation both becuase he was a decendant of his friend and that he has a similar ability to Baldr that would have likely brought about a similar fate.
@@joelsasmad this is one of those weird situations where I don’t think the scene expresses what Nomura was trying to get at. I personally didn’t get that he shaved his head here. To me it sounds more like he was messing around with the mirror since he knows the tables are turned in terms of who is in control of the situation. As for the bloodline of Xehanort involving Skuld, I do think it’s totally possible however the major problem is that we don’t know where Skuld ended up at the end of Union as we know she wasn’t with Ephemer. Well more than likely get the answer in Missing Link but there is just a lot we dong know lol thanks for the watch though
When I watched the ending of dark road I realised myself that blue robe was the player and just didn't want to believe it at first, since I thought the player was meant to be Xehanort. But when he describes his friends from his dreams he mentions Brain separately and blue robe doesn't react, then mentions the player and says it reminds him of blue robe, which blue robe is touched by. Also since he sees the player as one of the friends he doesn't see any direct connection, but rather sees them all from the same third-party perspective. The robe also seems to be a way to hide his face since the player could be either male or female, and also look like anything. I loved the video btw, thank you for giving us your take on it and I like how you interpreted it as you went rather than all at once.
So it was Luxu -> steal body of Brain -> time travel into Missing Link -> steal body of Bragi -> steal body of Braig(Xigbar) KhX Player -> Reincarnated into Kh Missing Link Player -> gets old and raises Xehanort From what I've heard (otherwise Blue robed guy would've taken the hood down I'm certain)
There was actually this theory going on for a while that Bragi was Luxu due to the name being almost the same as Braig but everyone seems to have wrote it off for being too obvious. Hilarious that it turned out to be that obvious. Strange Luxu would choose a body named after the god of poetry and known for playing the harp but I can see it considering his behavior in battle and his questioning of Xehanort.
That is very interesting… I never noticed this before and at worse it’s a very odd coincidence. Ima wait until missing link to try and make anything more of it though since it doesn’t really tell us anything at the moment
@@emrickazor2610 Missing Link is going to be a mobile game with AR functions, so kinda think of it as Kingdom Hearts Go. I don’t really think there’s a way to have that on the switch sadly. But I’m also very excited for it
Eraqus and Aqua also used chains attacks. Originally we thought it was something that the master defender keyblade could do. But after seeing Terra-Xehanort do it in KH3. We assumed it was something Eraqus taught them. But know we know Odin was the one, who taught Eraqus and probably Xehanort too.
as someone who doesn't want to play through the whole of dark road personally this is what ive been looking for 0-0, same as union x unxhained, dont feel the fun from the mobile games i only get from the story so this is a live saver edit - holy shit this game is full of answers to questions ive been asking since the begining and only 8 mins in !
I think it is more likely that the hooded figure raising Xehanorth is the players character from Union X. Makes sense to hood him since the avatar can look very different for everyone.
The popular conclusion people got from the cloaked figure's identity is that the "the player reincarnated into xehanort" reveal was a misdirection and that the perspective of the flashback is actually the blue hood. The dreams xehanort was having were actually about Ephemer and HIS friend (due to what the figure tells baby xehanort about his lineage). And that "we" believed that because xehanort was the great grandson of Ephemer, "we" could force him to be the "child of destiny" by raising him on destiny islands. When the real child of destiny was likely Riku, who was actually born on the islands. He's possibly another descendant of Ephemer, due to him initially being chosen for the keyblade back in kh1. Then, like the keyblade was eventually just given to Sora, so was the mantle of "the child of destiny". Seen as how Sora did reverse the prophecy of the darkness prevailing and light expiring in kh3.
Great video btw, I liked how you recorded each part after viewing them individually as opposed to most people who just give their thoughts after they've seen everything at once
I would really love to have Nomura go back and explore more on the keyblades chosen one concept. I love BBS however I can definitely see why the formation of formal keyblade training demystifies the keyblade. Like even if he just says that the kingdom key is unique and is the closest thing to the X-blade itself or something? I don’t know. But thanks. Going episode by episode helped create a more organic flow to the video and allow me to see if I can see where stuff it going but clearly I can be very far off lol
I don't see why anyone has to or could be the child of destiny other than Sora. I see it as a prophecy that you will fulfil, whether or not you're recognised for it, rather than a role you're gifted with the purpose to fulfil it. Thinking of it like that, the scene at the end of KH3 where Xehanort gives the X-blade to Sora is way more impactful. I think of it as the moment Xehanort realises that what he's been told as a child was wrong, and the real child of destiny was Sora all along, not because he was given the title or was born special, but because he chose to do the right thing without being told he had to.
I'm glad you liked it man and I enjoyed the hell out of it too thought it was a great story especially coming from a mobile game if this had kh3 looks and was on console wow it would have blown me away and probably would have blasted to one of my favorites along with Union cross if it was done the same justice. But I'm glad it was simplified and gave us hella answers because there's no need to always be turning upside down I like to figure out things myself and find the answers later. But yeah now people can always stop complaining about "how super complicated" the series is lol good video 💯 and keep up the work nice. I work on videos with Kai the player and we make kh and FF videos trying to find people got about 3 k on the channel of his so if you'd like I can always give you a link to his discord. Trying to find more fans and talk and get together!
This is going to sound condescending and I promise I’m not trying to come off that way but how? Every time I try to wrap my brain around that it doesn’t add up you know?
@@trainerhado Xehanort himself said that the player reminded him of the Blue Robed Figure. The player saw Ephemer as a dear friend as well. We all know they chose to be reincarnated instead of becoming a dream-eater. Plus, Brain is already related to Eraqus. And I know you're not trying to sound condescending, but Nomura straight up confirmed that Blue Hood was the player.
@@jedyoung767 my guy you’re getting the entirely wrong read from me. I was genuinely asking because if the blue robes figure is the player from UX we get weird complications in the timeline. I went to look through that interview again and yes you are correct however it also specified it was a vessel for players heart much like Xehanort would do later in life. I still hunk it’s possible that the body player is using is Brain’s as there is some weird time traveling stuff with him as well but I’m sure a lot of this will be further explained in Missing Link next year (hopefully lol)
@@trainerhado I think the thing that causes the situation to be confusing to a lot of people is because everyone was so sure that the player reincarnated into Xehanort that it's hard to consider the fact that that wasn't accurate. Going back to the ending of Union Cross in the scene where the player disappears it flashes forward to baby Xehanort you'll notice that the blue coated figure is also present. Basically, Xehanort being in that scene was a red herring to make you think that it was referring to Xehanort but his dreams of the kids from Union Cross are things he got second hand from being close to blue cloaked person, who is likely also the player from UX and Missing Link, just in his second lifetime.
@@edgeofultima7483 so I can see the logic in that however I personally think that the getting these dreams second hand is a bit of stretch and it makes more sense narratively for Xehanort to be seeing visions of his past life. And also this is not here nor there but I’m kinda hoping that that Missing Link is it’s only character and not just the character we already know but in a different body you know?
Considering how almost everyone in Dark Road is named after Norse mythology and Baldr was killed by Xehanort (which I predicted) that makes him a Loki analogue which I find really interesting and fitting seeing how Loki has been shifted from possible Jesus figure to Satan figure.
@@trainerhado Not sure. Thor maybe? I get how that’d be weird since they didn’t really get along, for example Thor literal threatens Loki win he pranked Thor’s wife into cutting her beautiful hair. However they did end up on journeys together rather often, like that time Thor was forced to crossdress as Freyr for a stealth mission to get a stolen item back or when they went on a journey to seek out Útgarða-Loki who is a completely different character that tricked Thor into thinking he was weak using illusions. I guess you can look at it as companions drifting apart since Loki’s children did start Ragnarök with his son the world serpent Jörmungandr being the one to kill Thor. Actually now that I think about it it you can sort of apply the three that started Ragnarök to the Wayfinder trio but that’s a whole other subject.
So while yes, the out of universe explanation for the lack of crowds in the earlier titles was due to system limitations. Having an in universe explanation help create layers of world building and later on can help the KH community map out which worlds are in what stage of reconstruction. Olympus is a great example of this as we see it I’m basically all the stages we know of at this moment. I can totally get not liking having an in universe explanation for this since it takes away some of the mystery (same thing with the keyblade from kh1 to bbs).
@@trainerhado It mostly just feels like an over-explanation. Like, did people really bug Nomura about that detail. Everyone I ever talked to just seemed to accept the citizens were around just always off-screen somewhere. Only time it became jarring but in a funny way was whenever the crowd would cheer in some cutscenes of Olympus only to have empty bleachers. But we just kinda laughed and shrugged it off.
No lmao it really doesn't create anything. It just makes everything more confusing and nonsensical. Now every element of the game could be part of the story. When are we going to get the lore of the save points?! Come on be reasonable, it's like explaining movie clichés with in canon reasoning. It's absolutely contrived and pointless, suspension of disbelief is there to deal with that already.
In all fairness the term over simplified is being applied to the dangers and challenges Xehanort and co. would have to face which ultimately lead them down this path. No one was prepared for the reality that existed out there. World orders not exactly being set in a good emotion or feeling, their friends dying etc. though I will say that Dark Road is definitely one of the more simple to understand stories in the franchise.
Simply put these people don't really care for the story. They just want to consume more Kingdom Hearts stuff, every new piece of information overwrites the previous one.
Hmm... while I can see it being an impossibility, I wouldn't mind them remaking Union Cross and Dark Road as a console game. Perhaps include 358/2 and Re:Coded, too?
I think there is a Xehanort report that actually mentions they had a falling out recently. Idk why i'll have to replay but I always assumed the scars were recent.. maybe Im crazy
are you calling vala ....valva ?? im sorry i kind of snapped out of a daze i fell into cause your voice is somewhat soothing and started giggling good video though
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Hey y’all I’m now aware of the player character is the hooded figure. Though I will say that if not for that interview with Nomura I think it was still a very solid theory lol
13:04 He doesn't go bald from stress, he shaves his head as a sign of resolve.
I'd like to point out that while Skuld is not Xenhorts mother she is likely his great grandmother likely with Ephemer.
Also the player character seems to have taken in and raised Xenhort in isolation both becuase he was a decendant of his friend and that he has a similar ability to Baldr that would have likely brought about a similar fate.
@@joelsasmad this is one of those weird situations where I don’t think the scene expresses what Nomura was trying to get at. I personally didn’t get that he shaved his head here. To me it sounds more like he was messing around with the mirror since he knows the tables are turned in terms of who is in control of the situation.
As for the bloodline of Xehanort involving Skuld, I do think it’s totally possible however the major problem is that we don’t know where Skuld ended up at the end of Union as we know she wasn’t with Ephemer. Well more than likely get the answer in Missing Link but there is just a lot we dong know lol thanks for the watch though
When I watched the ending of dark road I realised myself that blue robe was the player and just didn't want to believe it at first, since I thought the player was meant to be Xehanort. But when he describes his friends from his dreams he mentions Brain separately and blue robe doesn't react, then mentions the player and says it reminds him of blue robe, which blue robe is touched by. Also since he sees the player as one of the friends he doesn't see any direct connection, but rather sees them all from the same third-party perspective. The robe also seems to be a way to hide his face since the player could be either male or female, and also look like anything. I loved the video btw, thank you for giving us your take on it and I like how you interpreted it as you went rather than all at once.
This 'plot-twist' feel so much like a cop-out of an actual interesting idea, made just because people called it earlier.
Calling Bragi Sans reinforces that Xigbar is just Kingdom hearts’ Sans
I’m not ashamed of what I did nor will I apologize lmao
@@trainerhado Xigbar literally fights similar to Sans
I prefer to think of Xigbar/Luxu as the Kingdom Hearts version of Revolver Ocelot from the Metal Gear Solid series lol
So it was Luxu -> steal body of Brain -> time travel into Missing Link -> steal body of Bragi -> steal body of Braig(Xigbar)
KhX Player -> Reincarnated into Kh Missing Link Player -> gets old and raises Xehanort
From what I've heard (otherwise Blue robed guy would've taken the hood down I'm certain)
There was actually this theory going on for a while that Bragi was Luxu due to the name being almost the same as Braig but everyone seems to have wrote it off for being too obvious. Hilarious that it turned out to be that obvious. Strange Luxu would choose a body named after the god of poetry and known for playing the harp but I can see it considering his behavior in battle and his questioning of Xehanort.
Okay, notice that Luxu has a trend on who he uses as a vessel.
Brain.
Bragi.
Braig.
These are a the names we know so far. Notice the trend?
That is very interesting… I never noticed this before and at worse it’s a very odd coincidence. Ima wait until missing link to try and make anything more of it though since it doesn’t really tell us anything at the moment
@@trainerhado I'm hyped for missing link. Heard it may be coming to Switch, which has my interest.
@@emrickazor2610 Missing Link is going to be a mobile game with AR functions, so kinda think of it as Kingdom Hearts Go. I don’t really think there’s a way to have that on the switch sadly. But I’m also very excited for it
@@trainerhado didn't know it was gonna have AR functions. That's gonna make it interesting. No Xigbar reference intended.
His next vessel will be called Brian
Eraqus and Aqua also used chains attacks. Originally we thought it was something that the master defender keyblade could do. But after seeing Terra-Xehanort do it in KH3. We assumed it was something Eraqus taught them. But know we know Odin was the one, who taught Eraqus and probably Xehanort too.
Okay series need to rewatch bbs cutscenes because I don’t recall this at all lmao
@@trainerhado Eraqus uses them when trying to kill Ventus. And Aqua uses it in BBS 0.2
Literal chain of memories.
Goddamn Nomura.
Can't even tell anymore if something is a typo or a real character
as someone who doesn't want to play through the whole of dark road personally this is what ive been looking for 0-0, same as union x unxhained, dont feel the fun from the mobile games i only get from the story so this is a live saver
edit - holy shit this game is full of answers to questions ive been asking since the begining and only 8 mins in !
Glad you enjoyed my friend!
I think it is more likely that the hooded figure raising Xehanorth is the players character from Union X. Makes sense to hood him since the avatar can look very different for everyone.
Master of masters is the player character from Union cross confirmed
The popular conclusion people got from the cloaked figure's identity is that the "the player reincarnated into xehanort" reveal was a misdirection and that the perspective of the flashback is actually the blue hood. The dreams xehanort was having were actually about Ephemer and HIS friend (due to what the figure tells baby xehanort about his lineage). And that "we" believed that because xehanort was the great grandson of Ephemer, "we" could force him to be the "child of destiny" by raising him on destiny islands. When the real child of destiny was likely Riku, who was actually born on the islands. He's possibly another descendant of Ephemer, due to him initially being chosen for the keyblade back in kh1. Then, like the keyblade was eventually just given to Sora, so was the mantle of "the child of destiny". Seen as how Sora did reverse the prophecy of the darkness prevailing and light expiring in kh3.
Great video btw, I liked how you recorded each part after viewing them individually as opposed to most people who just give their thoughts after they've seen everything at once
I would really love to have Nomura go back and explore more on the keyblades chosen one concept. I love BBS however I can definitely see why the formation of formal keyblade training demystifies the keyblade. Like even if he just says that the kingdom key is unique and is the closest thing to the X-blade itself or something? I don’t know.
But thanks. Going episode by episode helped create a more organic flow to the video and allow me to see if I can see where stuff it going but clearly I can be very far off lol
@@trainerhado that's cool tho, most people just wanna be right so it's always good when a creator isn't afraid of being wrong
I don't see why anyone has to or could be the child of destiny other than Sora. I see it as a prophecy that you will fulfil, whether or not you're recognised for it, rather than a role you're gifted with the purpose to fulfil it. Thinking of it like that, the scene at the end of KH3 where Xehanort gives the X-blade to Sora is way more impactful. I think of it as the moment Xehanort realises that what he's been told as a child was wrong, and the real child of destiny was Sora all along, not because he was given the title or was born special, but because he chose to do the right thing without being told he had to.
I'm glad you liked it man and I enjoyed the hell out of it too thought it was a great story especially coming from a mobile game if this had kh3 looks and was on console wow it would have blown me away and probably would have blasted to one of my favorites along with Union cross if it was done the same justice. But I'm glad it was simplified and gave us hella answers because there's no need to always be turning upside down I like to figure out things myself and find the answers later. But yeah now people can always stop complaining about "how super complicated" the series is lol good video 💯 and keep up the work nice. I work on videos with Kai the player and we make kh and FF videos trying to find people got about 3 k on the channel of his so if you'd like I can always give you a link to his discord. Trying to find more fans and talk and get together!
The Blue Robed Figure is the Player Character, not Brain.
This is going to sound condescending and I promise I’m not trying to come off that way but how? Every time I try to wrap my brain around that it doesn’t add up you know?
@@trainerhado Xehanort himself said that the player reminded him of the Blue Robed Figure. The player saw Ephemer as a dear friend as well. We all know they chose to be reincarnated instead of becoming a dream-eater. Plus, Brain is already related to Eraqus. And I know you're not trying to sound condescending, but Nomura straight up confirmed that Blue Hood was the player.
@@jedyoung767 my guy you’re getting the entirely wrong read from me. I was genuinely asking because if the blue robes figure is the player from UX we get weird complications in the timeline. I went to look through that interview again and yes you are correct however it also specified it was a vessel for players heart much like Xehanort would do later in life. I still hunk it’s possible that the body player is using is Brain’s as there is some weird time traveling stuff with him as well but I’m sure a lot of this will be further explained in Missing Link next year (hopefully lol)
@@trainerhado I think the thing that causes the situation to be confusing to a lot of people is because everyone was so sure that the player reincarnated into Xehanort that it's hard to consider the fact that that wasn't accurate.
Going back to the ending of Union Cross in the scene where the player disappears it flashes forward to baby Xehanort you'll notice that the blue coated figure is also present. Basically, Xehanort being in that scene was a red herring to make you think that it was referring to Xehanort but his dreams of the kids from Union Cross are things he got second hand from being close to blue cloaked person, who is likely also the player from UX and Missing Link, just in his second lifetime.
@@edgeofultima7483 so I can see the logic in that however I personally think that the getting these dreams second hand is a bit of stretch and it makes more sense narratively for Xehanort to be seeing visions of his past life. And also this is not here nor there but I’m kinda hoping that that Missing Link is it’s only character and not just the character we already know but in a different body you know?
Considering how almost everyone in Dark Road is named after Norse mythology and Baldr was killed by Xehanort (which I predicted) that makes him a Loki analogue which I find really interesting and fitting seeing how Loki has been shifted from possible Jesus figure to Satan figure.
I honestly really love this. I only really know the basics of Norse myths, where would that put Eraqus or is he just kinda there?
@@trainerhado Not sure. Thor maybe? I get how that’d be weird since they didn’t really get along, for example Thor literal threatens Loki win he pranked Thor’s wife into cutting her beautiful hair. However they did end up on journeys together rather often, like that time Thor was forced to crossdress as Freyr for a stealth mission to get a stolen item back or when they went on a journey to seek out Útgarða-Loki who is a completely different character that tricked Thor into thinking he was weak using illusions. I guess you can look at it as companions drifting apart since Loki’s children did start Ragnarök with his son the world serpent Jörmungandr being the one to kill Thor. Actually now that I think about it it you can sort of apply the three that started Ragnarök to the Wayfinder trio but that’s a whole other subject.
Eraqus thor and xehanort is loki.
@@NeroLeMorte I made a reply about that. Eraqus is way nicer than Thor but I agree.
What do you mean about Loki being shifted from possible Jesus figure to Satan figure?
Thanks a lot for this!!
So glad you enjoyed it!
You must have forgotten they showed how Eraqus got those scars in BBS itself I believe, lol
Wait did they actually? Gods I’m slacking
@@trainerhado yea, a few of the scenes in the flash forwards are from BBS
@@mattcamp480 this is my sign to replay birth by sleep lol
Did we really need an explanation for the lack of crowds in earlier games? We just assumed it was due to system limitations…
So while yes, the out of universe explanation for the lack of crowds in the earlier titles was due to system limitations. Having an in universe explanation help create layers of world building and later on can help the KH community map out which worlds are in what stage of reconstruction. Olympus is a great example of this as we see it I’m basically all the stages we know of at this moment. I can totally get not liking having an in universe explanation for this since it takes away some of the mystery (same thing with the keyblade from kh1 to bbs).
@@trainerhado It mostly just feels like an over-explanation. Like, did people really bug Nomura about that detail. Everyone I ever talked to just seemed to accept the citizens were around just always off-screen somewhere.
Only time it became jarring but in a funny way was whenever the crowd would cheer in some cutscenes of Olympus only to have empty bleachers. But we just kinda laughed and shrugged it off.
No lmao it really doesn't create anything. It just makes everything more confusing and nonsensical. Now every element of the game could be part of the story. When are we going to get the lore of the save points?! Come on be reasonable, it's like explaining movie clichés with in canon reasoning. It's absolutely contrived and pointless, suspension of disbelief is there to deal with that already.
Thanks for trying to dissect this cause I was not about to try and understand the finale myself😅!
I’ll always be here to try to dissect and over analyze this series 🫡
This is the first time I've ever heard someone say a KH story was overly simplified.
In all fairness the term over simplified is being applied to the dangers and challenges Xehanort and co. would have to face which ultimately lead them down this path. No one was prepared for the reality that existed out there. World orders not exactly being set in a good emotion or feeling, their friends dying etc. though I will say that Dark Road is definitely one of the more simple to understand stories in the franchise.
There is a literally a cutscene in BBS where Xehanort gives Eraqus the scar he has on his face. How did you not know this
I had not played bbs in many years and multiple people have pointed this out already.
Simply put these people don't really care for the story. They just want to consume more Kingdom Hearts stuff, every new piece of information overwrites the previous one.
Not pegging Bragi as Luxu immediately is... wild.
@@amross2112 I don’t know man. The entire community was kinda shook by it
Hmm... while I can see it being an impossibility, I wouldn't mind them remaking Union Cross and Dark Road as a console game. Perhaps include 358/2 and Re:Coded, too?
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Glad I found this
Yo. 6.5k views hell yeah bro. Keep it up
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Didn’t we even see Eraqus get the scars in a BBS flashback itself?
Lol yes, a couple other people made me realize I haven’t played bbs for minute so that was my oopsie
@@trainerhado Ah okay. No big deal either way.
I think there is a Xehanort report that actually mentions they had a falling out recently. Idk why i'll have to replay but I always assumed the scars were recent.. maybe Im crazy
Yeah turns out I hadn’t played bbs in quite some time and they show him getting his scars in that game lmao
Calling this a top 5 Kingdom Hearts story is craaazy😂
End of the day it’s still better than Re:coded
Correct me if I’m wrong but Eraqus got his scars in a cutscene in BBS I think dark road just recreates that cutscene.
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh it has been a minute since I played bbs. I have sense replayed it and realized my mistake here lol
But didn't they show Eraqus getting the scars in Birth By Sleep? Terra's story wasn't it?
Though I haven’t replayed/rewatched the cutscenes yet yeah it seems it’s been far too long since I’ve played bbs lol
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Blue Robe is the Player Char from Union X
It's his heart / soul true but maybe he reincarnated into brain's body rather than a new character entirely.
@@NeroLeMorte no
The comment section confuses me more then the goddam video...
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are you calling vala ....valva ??
im sorry i kind of snapped out of a daze i fell into cause your voice is somewhat soothing and started giggling
good video though
Hi I’m not good with names lol but thank you so much for all the support
@@trainerhado happens to the best of us man xD
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I will try to do better in the future? Lmao
@@trainerhado I literally have ocd and can control my comments. Sorry about that. Your content is dope fr fr