You know what would be really fucked up is if the cloak that the reincarnated player wore became the cloth that Sora, Kairi, and Rikku used for their sailboat.
Props for being one of the very few people on UA-cam so far to do an actual proper deep dive/recap on the last few episodes rather than just discuss the ending and highlights. Needed something with more depth and you delivered. 👍
Xehanort's job in The Master of Master's script is the Scapegoat. He is to be the "villian" who will shape the Singularity through the Children of Destiny ( namely Sora and the Chosen Surrounding him). We are wrong about that but it is intentionally script that way by the Master.
Wait a minute. Is the player character Sora? I'm making this connection because what I've seen from the player is that whenever he dies, he reincarnated in the same place. He died the first time in Daybreak town and he reincarnated in Scala which is Daybreak town upside down many years later. We see the player die again in Destiny Island and then guess what, Sora is born on Destiny Island. That would make a lot more sense as to why Sora and Ventus randomly make a connection in BBS original. Ventus reached out to a familiar friend, AKA the player which I believe started a life time as Sora. It's starting to make more sense how Xehanort is the Chiod of destiny now. Remember, Player says he will be on his destined path by meeting many other people. Well he meets Sora. He meets Luxu, he meets MoM, he meets Eraqus. He meets all these people.
Nomura always says he wants Sora to be just an ordinary guy who is a good person basically. So I don't think he is the Child of Destiny. It is either Riku or Kairi I think. Or if Nomura wants to leave a plotline hanging for after the MoM and the 13 Darknesses, it could be a descendent of Sora and Kairi and whatever new threat they would have to put up with. Thats pure brainstorming on my part though I am pretty confident about Sora NOT being a "Chosen One" character.
I think the Child of Destiny Chosen status is contagious, like Darkness is contagious. So the Master of Masters makes Ventus Chosen in the Book because Ventus will/has become one with Sora. Riku also is Chosen , and passes that to Sora, who then passed it back in Dream Drop Distance when Riku dives in Sora's Dreams and becomes a Dream Eater. Kairi also is Chosen (Pure Light/Princess of Heart) and becomes one with Sora in Kh1.
I personally think the "You" is actually Bragi. Luxu can use Dark portal's, and I think Bragi made a deal with Hades to make Bradlr think Bragi passed away. Therefore, the classmates will believe him passed without a corpse. It is like the thing Xigbar did in KH3 with extra steps. It also ensures Baldr/ Darkness won't win even if they beat Xehanort.
Hey there, amazing video. Just for your interest, I'm pretty sure that chains used by sora in kh4 trailer are pretty differents from Odin and Aqua ones. Specifically, watching that kh4 scene frame by frame, you can see that the chain is more like an extension of the keyblade Keychain, and not from the tip of the keyblade like the other two. But maybe you still are correct!
Doesn't this infer that Skuld also didn't go to the future and that, just like Ephemer, survived the destruction to create SaC? If Ephemer is Xehanort's ancestor, and Skuld is related to Xehanort's mother.... I guess Subject X is Strelitzia.
In a way Xehanort actually connected his heart to 2 people so it wasn’t wrong …also I never hear people speak on the moment that Riku told Tera he wants to leave the island like this older kid he used to watch on the island…which is Xehanort…and that moment in itself let you know all 3 are tethered .
I'm trying to binge all the UX and dark road lore, quick question. If the foretellers were brought back do you think the darknesses they harboured also are back with them?
What I would guess the storyline for the next arc with the whole 7 lights v 7 darks is that the seven darks are represented by the true darknesses inside the Foretellers, Luxu, and the Master of Masters. So yes, they probably are, and are going to be destroyed so that the darknesses can be destroyed with them and that's been MoM's plan the whole time
I think the hades scene where he goes “You” could actually be Donald and goofy somehow!! Cause in a somewhat recent trailer it shows Donald and goofy walking in the underworld and then flame appears on screen lol. My theory is their looking for clues on what happened to sora after he disappeared for Quadradum and hades might give them useful information on the matter! If this is really true it really screws up the entire timeline of KH but it’s possible Disney worlds move at an absolute snail’s pace in terms of the flow of time so it could make sense but it wouldn’t be the first time something extremely strange happened either! Can’t forget the time Mickey Donald and goofy accidentally SOMEHOW ended up going to DAYBREAK town and yes the real version of it too! Not the data backup version, ! That scene to this day has never been explained lol.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone theorize that Xehanort went bald because of darkness lol I never considered it a mystery at all he was just an old guy who went bald
Wumpa league might be announced at the game awards in December if that new video from Canadian guy eh is anything to go by. I think it is imminent somehow. Plan on covering it soon at all?
I hate how they handled xehanort at the end of kh3. all that was required to stop him was to literally take 1 minute talking to him and showing him his childhood friend, jesus christ
He was stopped because he was defeated, he couldn't continue as much as he wanted. Talking yo him only made him realize it was over for him and that he lost
The fact that they failed to beat maleficent confirms that indeed our character as a child was stronger than they were, so it is in line with what a certain character said to sora at one point, that older keyblade wielders used to be stronger, however i hate how our character ceases to be in there, it would've been cool to see him/her intervene in the events. Also, the fact he shaved his hair is also something that connects to the padawans in star wars... god fucking damnit nomure you recycled old worlds 20 times but never used star wars for Kh3?! The universe where the main hero becomes one of the main villains of darkness byt then finds something to REMEMBER of WHO HE WAS and return TO LIGHT AND REDEEM HIMSELF?! fucking damnit nomura
wild thought i had listening to this. the master of master telling xehanort his name in that scene, and the word, his name, being blatantly omitted, reminds me alot of the opening chapter of KH2, where the nobodies, in pursuit of Roxas, stole photos of roxas, but they also stole the word "photo". This was one of the first major clues that Roxas was in a simulation, and considering how KH has made use of simulated realities ALOT, the idea that the mom's name or even identity is removed from the world is not entirely out of the question, and whether or not any of Kingdom Hearts is meant to be in "reality" (to be clear, all in-universe), simulation, or somesuch is an ongoing open question. heck, Yen Sid will probably pull some "our reality is their fiction and their fiction is our reality" stuff come KH4.
Think player is luxord? I mean his missing link self looks even more like him then even union cross. And honestly wean you consider luxord, demex, Marluxia, and Larxene where all picked because they are keyblade weilders from uinon and missing link if luxord being a common dinomanator from both periods matchs and he is the real virus to the masters plans if you think about it its implied he was infected by a darkness wean he seald 4 of them away potentially taking out 4 at minimum 5 at maximum of the true darknesses he was a nameless nobody the master didn't once bring up and he is a person from uinon who not only never touched a all seeing eye but was thought to have died by luxiu honestly the fact he lived twice and is potentially now in quadradium hevily implies a perfect candidate to who luxord is I mean his love of games could even be a hint as games need players plus as xahnort's care taker he is even more likely to be pulled from of all the potential weilders from the two timelines honestly the more I think on it the more its starting to make sense futher more he is also the key to sora's return the true child of prophecy players really a facanating character if this is right as the sheer driving force of being a virus and hevily altering events into a spesfic path.
Kingdom hearts 3 final boss fight has so much more meaning to me after dark road. Everytime I see xehanort on screen, I feel bad for him and understand why he’s doing the things he’s doing. The cutscene after the fight is even better
The player raised xehanort so We have been technically been beating up our adopted son for the entire series
You know what would be really fucked up is if the cloak that the reincarnated player wore became the cloth that Sora, Kairi, and Rikku used for their sailboat.
Props for being one of the very few people on UA-cam so far to do an actual proper deep dive/recap on the last few episodes rather than just discuss the ending and highlights. Needed something with more depth and you delivered. 👍
Thank you for tuning in :D Much appreciated!
Xehanort's job in The Master of Master's script is the Scapegoat. He is to be the "villian" who will shape the Singularity through the Children of Destiny ( namely Sora and the Chosen Surrounding him). We are wrong about that but it is intentionally script that way by the Master.
Why does this mirror FFXV so much
Wait a minute. Is the player character Sora?
I'm making this connection because what I've seen from the player is that whenever he dies, he reincarnated in the same place. He died the first time in Daybreak town and he reincarnated in Scala which is Daybreak town upside down many years later. We see the player die again in Destiny Island and then guess what, Sora is born on Destiny Island. That would make a lot more sense as to why Sora and Ventus randomly make a connection in BBS original. Ventus reached out to a familiar friend, AKA the player which I believe started a life time as Sora.
It's starting to make more sense how Xehanort is the Chiod of destiny now. Remember, Player says he will be on his destined path by meeting many other people. Well he meets Sora. He meets Luxu, he meets MoM, he meets Eraqus. He meets all these people.
Thank you vivi, I adore the mainline games but just can't get into the mobile games. Gives me a chance to keep up with all the lore.
No problem!
Nomura always says he wants Sora to be just an ordinary guy who is a good person basically. So I don't think he is the Child of Destiny. It is either Riku or Kairi I think.
Or if Nomura wants to leave a plotline hanging for after the MoM and the 13 Darknesses, it could be a descendent of Sora and Kairi and whatever new threat they would have to put up with. Thats pure brainstorming on my part though I am pretty confident about Sora NOT being a "Chosen One" character.
So much effort was put into this video...great job Vivi!
I always pronounced Vor as "vore', Hermod as "her-mod", and Hoder as "whole-der"
Thank you!!!
I think the Child of Destiny Chosen status is contagious, like Darkness is contagious. So the Master of Masters makes Ventus Chosen in the Book because Ventus will/has become one with Sora. Riku also is Chosen , and passes that to Sora, who then passed it back in Dream Drop Distance when Riku dives in Sora's Dreams and becomes a Dream Eater.
Kairi also is Chosen (Pure Light/Princess of Heart) and becomes one with Sora in Kh1.
I personally think the "You" is actually Bragi. Luxu can use Dark portal's, and I think Bragi made a deal with Hades to make Bradlr think Bragi passed away. Therefore, the classmates will believe him passed without a corpse. It is like the thing Xigbar did in KH3 with extra steps.
It also ensures Baldr/ Darkness won't win even if they beat Xehanort.
YES that Xigbar scene in KH3, where he pretended to off himself.
4:35 A Disney+ series is the smartest choice. HOWEVER, knowing how Disney and SE operates as of late, I ain't holding my breath...
Hey there, amazing video. Just for your interest, I'm pretty sure that chains used by sora in kh4 trailer are pretty differents from Odin and Aqua ones.
Specifically, watching that kh4 scene frame by frame, you can see that the chain is more like an extension of the keyblade Keychain, and not from the tip of the keyblade like the other two. But maybe you still are correct!
Thank you for posting this. Really helped me figure out the story.
No problem!
Im glad theres a nice autistic man to explain all this to us
Knowing the possibility of Xehanort in quadratum honestly makes me so happy.
This Game Has Me So Excited For Missing-Link!
Luxu never used Brain as a vessel! he just bequethed his keyblade to him as confirmed from notes
Doesn't this infer that Skuld also didn't go to the future and that, just like Ephemer, survived the destruction to create SaC? If Ephemer is Xehanort's ancestor, and Skuld is related to Xehanort's mother.... I guess Subject X is Strelitzia.
In a way Xehanort actually connected his heart to 2 people so it wasn’t wrong …also I never hear people speak on the moment that Riku told Tera he wants to leave the island like this older kid he used to watch on the island…which is Xehanort…and that moment in itself let you know all 3 are tethered .
Wait...so Ventus is actually a time traveler from around the time before the worlds were spit apart? Did I get that right?
correct. brain sent him together with lauriam and erlena using the lifeboat
So...does our player character from Union X and Missing Link...become Sora?
Seems interesting 🤔
Xehanort had his heart (ansem seeker of darkness) connect to riku and become one
Wait does your name theory about B being second to the master translate to Japanese or are the names in English there too?
I'm trying to binge all the UX and dark road lore, quick question. If the foretellers were brought back do you think the darknesses they harboured also are back with them?
What I would guess the storyline for the next arc with the whole 7 lights v 7 darks is that the seven darks are represented by the true darknesses inside the Foretellers, Luxu, and the Master of Masters.
So yes, they probably are, and are going to be destroyed so that the darknesses can be destroyed with them and that's been MoM's plan the whole time
Please keep up the sly cooper videos don't ever stop making them they are the best and it still bothers me they did my boi sly like that
What's the VTN stand for my guy? Great video btw
Second name initials :) And thanks!
This was really an interesting explain video and a great one VtnVivi, I'll miss kingdom hearts dark road
I appreciate that thank you!
I think the hades scene where he goes “You” could actually be Donald and goofy somehow!! Cause in a somewhat recent trailer it shows Donald and goofy walking in the underworld and then flame appears on screen lol. My theory is their looking for clues on what happened to sora after he disappeared for Quadradum and hades might give them useful information on the matter! If this is really true it really screws up the entire timeline of KH but it’s possible Disney worlds move at an absolute snail’s pace in terms of the flow of time so it could make sense but it wouldn’t be the first time something extremely strange happened either! Can’t forget the time Mickey Donald and goofy accidentally SOMEHOW ended up going to DAYBREAK town and yes the real version of it too! Not the data backup version, ! That scene to this day has never been explained lol.
The Fourteenth Vessel is MoM!!!!
U sir have got yourself a new sub
Much appreciated!
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone theorize that Xehanort went bald because of darkness lol
I never considered it a mystery at all he was just an old guy who went bald
I never expected Xehanort baldness to be lore relevant....
After Nintendo's Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, the potential timespan between UX and BBS does not seem that long lmao
It might ve the player that saw brain with memories of him that makes brain lived as he travels into thebfuture
Possibly!
wow..now i get it. player's 2nd life's memory that makes it possible for brain to live in the missing link era
Weird that a young Yen Sid isn't here.
1 of the 2 darknesses confonted Sora in remind, as dark inferno chi. Is my suspicion...
That was vanitas, the way he is inside ventus
Biggest difference between sora and xehanort. Xehanort wants to see his mom.
thank you, I like your explanation videos
Thank you I appreciate it!
Wumpa league might be announced at the game awards in December if that new video from Canadian guy eh is anything to go by. I think it is imminent somehow. Plan on covering it soon at all?
I hate how they handled xehanort at the end of kh3. all that was required to stop him was to literally take 1 minute talking to him and showing him his childhood friend, jesus christ
A mixed bag type of ending for me.
He was stopped because he was defeated, he couldn't continue as much as he wanted. Talking yo him only made him realize it was over for him and that he lost
It's like you forgot that sora and company fought him multiple times and defeated him before talking to eraqus
Host identifies as a Cooper, instant follow. XD
I need to make a board for this
"We become Xehanort's caretaker!" Very true but does anyone really want that lol
wait i thought the player was killed and became Xehanort an was raised by an older ephemer an empher died an became Sora
The fact that they failed to beat maleficent confirms that indeed our character as a child was stronger than they were, so it is in line with what a certain character said to sora at one point, that older keyblade wielders used to be stronger, however i hate how our character ceases to be in there, it would've been cool to see him/her intervene in the events.
Also, the fact he shaved his hair is also something that connects to the padawans in star wars... god fucking damnit nomure you recycled old worlds 20 times but never used star wars for Kh3?! The universe where the main hero becomes one of the main villains of darkness byt then finds something to REMEMBER of WHO HE WAS and return TO LIGHT AND REDEEM HIMSELF?! fucking damnit nomura
might the nameless stars be these weilders
Is crash bandicoot eventually going to get a new game?
Will they make a 4th video game of spyro & a 3rd movie of Disney's frozen?
No one knows! I'd imagine the latter at least.
I hope crash bandicoot gets a brand new game eventually
wild thought i had listening to this. the master of master telling xehanort his name in that scene, and the word, his name, being blatantly omitted, reminds me alot of the opening chapter of KH2, where the nobodies, in pursuit of Roxas, stole photos of roxas, but they also stole the word "photo". This was one of the first major clues that Roxas was in a simulation, and considering how KH has made use of simulated realities ALOT, the idea that the mom's name or even identity is removed from the world is not entirely out of the question, and whether or not any of Kingdom Hearts is meant to be in "reality" (to be clear, all in-universe), simulation, or somesuch is an ongoing open question. heck, Yen Sid will probably pull some "our reality is their fiction and their fiction is our reality" stuff come KH4.
"our reality is their fiction and their fiction is our reality" that's something Nomura actually said when looking at Quadratum!
lol, you heard it here first folks.
Just got DC league of superpets on DVD
I think the Vanitas scean happening when Ven colleps after the lot of questening.
Think player is luxord? I mean his missing link self looks even more like him then even union cross. And honestly wean you consider luxord, demex, Marluxia, and Larxene where all picked because they are keyblade weilders from uinon and missing link if luxord being a common dinomanator from both periods matchs and he is the real virus to the masters plans if you think about it its implied he was infected by a darkness wean he seald 4 of them away potentially taking out 4 at minimum 5 at maximum of the true darknesses he was a nameless nobody the master didn't once bring up and he is a person from uinon who not only never touched a all seeing eye but was thought to have died by luxiu honestly the fact he lived twice and is potentially now in quadradium hevily implies a perfect candidate to who luxord is I mean his love of games could even be a hint as games need players plus as xahnort's care taker he is even more likely to be pulled from of all the potential weilders from the two timelines honestly the more I think on it the more its starting to make sense futher more he is also the key to sora's return the true child of prophecy players really a facanating character if this is right as the sheer driving force of being a virus and hevily altering events into a spesfic path.
Player was Xehanort's caretaker and most likely the play in Missing Link :)
5:15 lol mom
The more I watch the more I understand but damn shits confusing
S/o to you bc I’m never going to play a mobile game
One who knows nothing can understand nothing
Kingdom hearts 3 final boss fight has so much more meaning to me after dark road. Everytime I see xehanort on screen, I feel bad for him and understand why he’s doing the things he’s doing. The cutscene after the fight is even better
DR brings in much more context for sure!