Soooo I just reached 100 subs. I wanted to say that the reception from this video has been fantastic and I am over the moon with all of the kind words you guys have written! It honestly means a damn lot, so from the bottom of my vessel's heart, I thank you. I hope to see all of you in my upcoming videos if you choose to stick around
I finished it last night and oh my God you seriously found multiple names in that edit to where you make him say the names amazes every single time. I really wonder how you did it and this theory is the best one that I’ve seen other than though he is light theory
@@henoccharlot708 Haha thanks for the kind words! The voice impression is all thanks to the voice actor Chris Burns. He did those names specifically for this video
Man I cant believe it. Was just recommended your video after watching all the people you mention, but your theory blows all the others out of the water. Really looking forward to your next Braig video. I'd like to ask if there's any chance you'd talk about more paralels between VS XII and Verum Rex, or how TWEWY fits in the next KH stories. Big props to you and I will share this around!
@@SpanishEchidna Thank you for the kind words friendo. It appears you've seen the Braig/Luxu thumbnail on my twitter feed! That was originally going to be my next video, but I've pushed it back to 3rd video since I'm working on something else currently. It's coming along nicely, should be out later this month. Can't wait for you to see it!!
Best MoM identity theory I've seen yet! One thing though: Yozora asking Sora why he's using "Sora's" name actually lends to the idea that Yozora does know a Sora that doesn't look like our Sora (you interpreted it as the opposite). For example, Yozora could know an older Sora (future Sora) or a vessel that houses Sora's heart or a piece of his heart. Yozora is surprised Sora is using the name Sora, but by asking why Sora is using Sora's name, it makes it sound like he has met a Sora that is not the Sora standing in front of him (does that make sense). Basically, he has met a Sora that is not the present Sora. I actually think this exchange lends a lot to the theory that MoM is the future Sora (even though I'm not fully convinced of that theory myself) just because of Yozora's reaction: if MoM is the Ardyn of Quadratum and Yozora is the Noctis, then they would be enemies. If Yozora were to meet a younger MoM (or Noctis met a younger Ardyn), would Yozora not try to save him from his fate? The whole Yozora conversation and the two endings would make a lot of sense in that context. EDIT: I do think that MoM has an original name, though. It makes sense this would be the case (I love the options you presented: they're all great contenders). I just think it's possible Yozora knows a different version of Sora and that Sora has ties to MoM in some way. Also, I've always personally believed that Yozora was MoM's nobody. But that's another theory altogether.
He does say why are you using “sora’s name” as if to say that he knows for sure that the name belongs to someone else... He definitely knows of a sora for sure, wether or not he’s met anyone named sora is to be debated.
@@SonnyNovus that thing you said about quadratum possibly being set in a the future of a timeline where darkness won against light like the BoP predicts... that’s very interesting. And I have something to add to that (you probably already got it figured out tho lol) When sora time traveled/used the power of waking for the first time, what happened to the timeline that he left? It most likely got conquered by darkness because sora pretty much disappears. And there probably were legends and fairy tales about it that yozora has heard of (probably heard the stories from the person who told him to save sora) And he’s probably thinking to himself “if sora hadn’t had disappeared, we would be in a better timeline”. Which is why he looks a little mad or disappointed when he says “sure... I’ve heard of you” So anyways, quadratum isn’t just unreality/fiction, it’s a whole other timeline that we could’ve seen if sora wasn’t the main character that we were following. Looks like the master has already succeeded in his plans to defeat all the darkness, at least in one timeline, he’s probably also trying to get rid of darkness across all timelines. Not exactly sure how it works, but it’s just that he needed ONE timeline where darkness failed, in order to erase the darkness in the whole universe Just something I thought I’d add to it. This is all so interesting and I can’t wait till we get the next kingdom hearts game
@@Z-A-C Yeah, I'm thinking that he knows the name Sora like we all know of the name "Jesus" for example. We don't literally know a guy named Jesus or have met him, but we are familiar with the name. The reason why I say Jesus is because the skull and crossbones on Yozora's sleeve are modeled after Sora's head (hair) and two Keyblades, symbolizing Sora's death. This leads me to believe that the Book of Prophecies is like a bible, and the guardians of light (Sora, Riku, Mickey etc) are all martyr figures and worshiped for their bravery in the Keyblade war. So Quadratum could be the distant future of either Data Daybreak town or the future where Sora lost and never changed his fate. But analyzing Yozora's dialogue, it's pretty clear he doesn't know anybody using the name personally because he's so impartial. He just accepts Sora with lines like "If you are who you say" and "Sora? You're Sora? Sure, I've heard of you."
Rewatching this vid for the second time. I seriously mean it when is say this - I cannot wait for more content from you. Literally anything.. just wanna hear your thoughts. I appreciate KHs lore so much and bearing other people talk about it is just so satisfying. I hope in future videos you brush on why yozora looks like riku etc. Take care!
It humbles me that you'd take the time out of your day to watch my vid for a second time, so I sincerely thank you!! I have a long list of videos that I'll be cracking on with (around 15 on my list so far!) and I've been editing my 2nd video ever since this one dropped, which should be released at the end of this month or early May. One of the videos on my list will be specifically around Riku and his role. I won't spoil it for you, but Yozora will definitely play a part. Thank you for sticking around
Here I thought you were a seasoned veteran in the war of UA-cam content creation with a vast archive of content I could peruse. Instead I find I am fortunate to witness a legend in the making. This was a wonderful video and I can't wait to see more. You have my subscription and attention.
A few more little anecdotes for you guys: What is Demyx's title in the Organization? The Melodious Nocturne. It basically means "Melody of the Night". Could this further hint at a connection between Demyx and Yozora? Also, some geniuses in the comments noticed that Astrum is almost an anagram of Master, so could Nomura alter the name to Astrem for the double meaning? Still a neat little find, though.
That seems to be the case, I find it strange that his choice of instrument is a sitar however. Perhaps there is a bigger reason as to why, or not who knows at this point. If it interests you I noticed something odd that might be re-contextualized with this whole Quadratum reveal and the world of "Fiction" being a thing. It was strange during base KH3 that Luxord and Demyx have not any designated real names and that still remains to be the case. Perhaps is it possible that Luxord and Demyx are fake names already in the first place? Returning to the Book of Prophecies the Master of Masters made, it has the ability to harness powers from the future in-game as medals and as worlds the player can go into. They are in the same vein as Pooh's storybook, essentially fiction yet they exist as gateways only lasting an impact in the pages of the book. Since Luxord and possibly Demyx are people from Quadratum, that begs the question...how did they get in? Were they in the Unchained State? But that would mean others from Sora's realm should have strong connections to them before. The Master of Masters seems to be a fit but then there is another dilemma there, how can they interact with the world if they are Unchained? So I now then postulate that they went in a similar way, they have the connection and the means seem attainable. That would present its own problems namely, how can they affect reality in Sora's world if it was by going in a fictional world. However the Book of Prophecies spans the events after the Keyblade War as well and by creating the book MOM essentially made Sora's reality into fiction. Time wouldn't even be an issue if the two were in the Unchained State after all they have the connection and they can follow through using it. Perhaps, that was the reason as to why MOM created the books in the first place so that he can hop into the KH world and to Quadratum, easily bypassing the two. Why else would he make them for the Foretellers even though he essentially manipulated them into ruin? The names might not even matter if that is the case, the two act like they are just experiencing and interacting with the story. Sort of like Avatars in a video game. Well, this was a lengthy toss in the ring. There are many holes to my hypothesis that couldn't see. Also, why did I not see you sooner? You have great presentation and scripting as well as a soothing voice. Your work is criminally underrated.
@Abdullah Alluhaidan I don't think so. The X is called the Recusant's Sigil and started with Xemnas and can be used by Xehanort in any of his iterations to track anyone marked with it (any of the Nobodies in Organization XIII or Sora, since he was marked with an X on his clothing). Xehanort got the idea from the Greek letter chi since he's obsessed with creating the X-blade (and the fact his own name had an X in it didn't hurt either). The Master of Masters was born way, WAAAAAAY before Xehanort, so I don't think it's likely his name would have an X except by sheer coincidence.
Honestly, I love the whole thing with the repeated Master of Masters clip. It's so creative, and so compelling. I could watch this video multiple times, it's just so good. Makes me want to make something like this too. Awesome work!
The thing that most people don't know about Square is that a lot of ideas/stories they created were reused for future titles. FFVII created 3 other Final Fantasy games after it, when the staff did the story's concepts synopsize for the FFVII pitches and even Nomura created the character in Tifa after the story beats were already laid out for FFVII well into pre-production. FFVIII son Father dynamics were used. FFX world was the idea pitched for FFVII originally. So Nomura reusing his original story for Verse XIII in Kingdom Hearts might sound crazy but it's not an uncommon practice for the company at all. They've had a history of weaving new stories from story seeds from other game pitches. ;)
Im gonna mention how yozora was gonna save sora by basically trapping him for all eternity. Can it be that sora's fate is being the ardyn of the story and yozora just wants to save him just by intervening like that? We know mom is shown in quadratum
14:57 "They are looking at each other, just as how we see them" Upon rewatching, this reminded me of "I think I understand. I see myself the way you remember me. And you see yourself the way I remember you."
The only difference is that Yozora doesn't remember Sora because he doesn't know what Sora looks like, only the name. Sora may be seeing Yozora as how he remembers, but it's strange for that to be the case only with Sora exclusively and not Yozora too, hence why I don't think there are any illusions at play. Yozora has been in that form for a while, even outside of his dreams when he wakes up in the car
this is an incredible theory. the editing was done so well and you brought a lot to light that even had me me like “OH WAIT” cause things started clicking. hope to see something taken out of your theory into the future games. keep up the incredible work. :)
If you take apart the symbol of the master of masters you get what would resemble Soul Eater, a wing-like like sword, and the nobody symbol. my question is this, can you lose a heart to light in the same you can to darkness.
Awesome Question :) Never Heard Of This Before :) Thanks For Bringing It Up :) I'm Thinking You Can Lose Your Heart The Same Way As You Can In The Darkness :) Cool Concept Of Mom's Symbol :)
This was wonderfully edited! I can’t wait to see more of your work. I just wanted to add that the person who did an impression of MoM saying Moloch scared me. It felt a little too real lol.
If you watch the cutscene from KH3 where kairi reads a letter to Sora during her training with YEN SID - you will see a similiar “light flash” on the screen when kairi says “Sora.” Check it out- pretty strange
This literally the best theory video I've ever seen on the topic. as a die hard fan of both KH and FF, this video was so well researched and the editing is insane! I had to subscribe right away.
I like the idea that forms can be stolen in quadratum and I wonder if riku appears in a time in quadratum before sora had arrived, and yozora takes his form from him. Maybe riku is the one who tells yozora about sora after he is defeated or something
That would also mean that the timeline of quadratum is definitely not parallel with the ours because yozora in riku’s form is shown in the toybox realm. And also I’m starting to think that the master stole yozora’s original body/form because why else would yozora need to take someone else’s form unless he’s lost his own to somone else?
@@Jinsei24 could either be yozora or the master in that case as we see both the master and yozora in that last scene... If it does happen to be yozora in riku lookalike watching over him form then that makes me even more confused as to why he looks like riku.
Omfg with the update today, maybe Brain ("was") Xigbar and is just pretending to be Luxu because (he lied) and did read the book of prophecies in full. This could mean Demyx did hear the may your heart be your guiding key from Xigbar as he is in fact Brain and not Luxu. The way Brain said it, it was like he had ownership of it like his own personal mantra. Having said all of this, that is not to say Luxu couldn't have body swapped with Brain later on to take on the KH3 identity of Xigbar. As for the naysayers maybe when Brain passed the book unto Ventus he didn't want to create a temporal paradox so he told Ventus he never really read much of it (when in fact he did).
Well based on another theory I saw a year ago and what happened in the KHUX story update with darkness saying "we don't like light either". The MoM's name is "Light"
Honestly The name Moloch would be the coolest one and the most terrifying. I’d pick that one. Edit: so I now realize, he’s related to 4 main things. Light, Ardyn, Pride, and Lucifer His name has to be more close to something that’s related to light. So that actually eliminates Moloch as an option. As cool as that name is it can’t be it. It HAS to be either Sol or Astrum Sol = light/sun Lucifer and pride Astrum = light/star Ardyn and Lucifer (Ardyn was pretty much an equivalent to the Antichrist in FFxv What if his name a combo of both like “astrol” or “solstrum” Unless there’s another word that has a tie to all 4 connections to the master of masters, it has to be either Astrum, sol, or a combination of both
Finally. A lore channel like vaatividya that i can fall asleep to, but for kingdom hearts. I've scoured everywhere on UA-cam for a channel like this. Thank you. 😌
Dude, i literally "TRAVELED" by watching your video, i didn't even realize 35 whole mins have passed, that's mind blowing, you have an absolutely incredible and unmatched (at least for me) talent for these videos. Just..wow.
Okay so I just had this minor thought with the Astrum name, what if Nomura does a little switch and makes it Astrem instead of the u? If you swap that around it is an anagram of Master. Hmmmmmm
I’ve listened to this multiple times, and I am FLOORED by the work and detail you’ve put in here. Your points genuinely make a lot of sense, and your presentation of them is captivating. This easily put you in my top favorites for this kind of content, and I look forward to your thoughts in the future!
Thank you so much for taking to time to watch the video multiple times! and I look forward to seeing you in my upcoming videos. Videos like this take time but I am hard at work to get them out there as we speak
This is a truly amazing video! The editing is flawless, I love the idea of MoM being Arden, and just all of it is an excellent video. Thank you for the credit, though I would have settled for the link in the description. It's the first time I've been given a shout out on UA-cam. I've already subscribed, and I can't wait to see what else you come up with!
@@SonnyNovus If you ever want to collab, let me know. Best way to reach me right now is email, pajamaletsplay@gmail.com. I just recorded a video about the Norse Gods in Dark Road, but I noticed that mention of Niflheim with Arden, so there's probably something there.
@@pajamaletsplay9859 That will definitely be something I will consider in the future! Right now I have a slew of different videos and topics planned, one of which I'm working on as we speak. I'll be sure to write it down in my plans. Thanks so much for watching my video and best of luck with your future projects!!
31:20 The 7 doors could even be represented by the 7 black pieces as seen in the cutscene of Xehanort being shown a new game by Eraqus. 7 Pieces of Dark and 1 White King. 7 Dark Doors and 1 Light Moloch. This is further fueled by a bunch of the black pieces having tops that represent each of the union leaders, all sharing animals symbolically tied to the 7 deadly sins, as well as 1 representing the heartless symbol (Riku possibly due to how prominently it is on his keyblade up until KH3, or possibly representing the door to darkness that Riku helped close) and 1 which is hard to discern the exact shape of due to the camera angles.
The 7 black pieces are the five foretellers, Luxu and the MoM. Five pieces all with the union animals, Luxu with his goat symbol and MoM with his symbol as seen on the book of prophecies. Sora is the single white piece. It'll be really interesting to see how the foretellers will antagonize Sora, seeing as how they don't seem inherently evil when we see them in Back Cover and KH3. Ugh, personally I'd LOVE for his name to be Moloch. It just sounds sick lol
Hot damn this is awesome. The amount of research and putting the bits together you did really shines through throughout this entire video. Can't wait to see more theories from you.
This was a really strong theory, and it was great to watch. Though, playing FFXV the parallels don't end with just the characters and their roles. The experiments with the Heartless explained in KH1 and the reports explaining the events of the Star scourge found through Nifilheim on the way to the crystal share very striking similarities. Just like in both cases when a heart turns into a heartless the body disappears, the same thing happens when becoming a daemon and is spread like a pandemic. The artificial heartless and magitech soilders both work on very similar principles as well. And in this case the crystal for lucis and the keyhole are both important keeping their world from falling to darkness. Why bring this up, I'm not entirely convinced all of Nomura's idea were scrapped when making FFXV. Noctis was absolutely supposed to play as a thematic parallel to Sora. And Nomura might still be playing with that idea.
It’s gems like this video that are the reason I love YT. I love everything about this video. The visual presentation, your vocal delivery & the background music choice- especially the ones from Dark Cloud, one of my favorite games of all time. With a like, favorite and subscribe I eagerly await the next video you produce.
Aww, thanks a bunch. It honestly means quite a lot to me that you'd say that. Dark Cloud and KH were actually the very first PS2 games I played at my cousin's house as a wee child, so those two games are closely connected in my brain. SUCH a good ost, too! It just gives the video a unique sense of identity to contrast slapping a familiar KH track everyone knows and calling it a day lol My next video is coming very soon, so see you then!!
Awesome video! Was instantly hooked, you literally made a 35 minute video feel like a 5 minute video, because there was never a dull moment. Keep up the awesome work! 👍🏼
Your work is fascinating. Came straight here from your second video. You are doing the untold depths of Kingdom Hearts some real justice. Great use of music here as well, givin me chills and all that good stuff. Fantastic.
This is a truly terrific video; extremely compelling, well edited, and you have a great speaking voice. Looking forward to potentially more content from you. Earned yourself a sub.
... fun fact, Lucius is one of the Latin names that mean light Also, people forget that there was 2 rikus in the game, Riku - sora's friend, and Rikku - FFX-2 member of the gulwings (KH2)
I’ve been really into video essays on my favorite video games and I’ve stumbled on channels like yours, The Secret Reports, Damo279, and so many more and you all have amazing theories and do such a great job editing these video essays!! Please keep doing these videos cause they are honestly beloved!! (Side note but I screamed when I heard the music from Dark Cloud in the intro cause I grew up playing that game and that specific song you used is ingrained in my mind!!)
Mind blown! I actually sat down and took a page of notes on this! This is one of the best theories ive ever seen i really look forward to future theories vids of yours now i gotta go do some research and contemplating
Wow man, that is some unreal praise. I always love it when a theory inspires others to come to their own terms, so I sincerely thank you. My new video is so close to being done! It's just in the clean-up stages now.
Let’s also not forget that the Toy Story characters thought Sora was Yozora despite him looking almost nothing like him. Maybe our image of sora and what we see isn’t what sora looks like
It is very strange that Rex mistook Sora for Yozora, despite looking nothing like him save for the clothes. In the cut cutscene from the jumpfesta trailer back in 2018, Rex also mistook Donald and Goofy for Magia and Aegis but it was removed from the final product. Yozora says "This isn't what I really look like"... so perhaps before his appearance was changed, he looked a lot more like Sora? That would explain why Rex mistook him. Perhaps in the early game of Verum Rex, Yozora's appearance gets changed to look more like Riku. But the main thing that disproves this is that Yozora never comments on Sora's appearance. If Sora maybe looks like the original Yozora, then he would notice that when they meet and he'd say something about it. Either Rex is a complete and utter idiot or perhaps the toys are actually seeing Yozora from the video game instead of Sora.
@@SonnyNovus it is a tough one to figure out why they thought that, but like you stated, little to nothing has "no relevance" in a Nomura script. There's a reason they mistook Sora for Yozora despite clear differences in appearances (especially with the blocky aesthetic that Sora had in Toy Box). Maybe the same way some people saw Roxas and the really saw Sora and vice versa they are seeing Yozora but someone else's heart that he is housing. Perhaps the form Yozora is now is the equivalent of Roxas to Sora and thus there is a Ven that the image is based off of. Yozora's actual "heart" looks more like Sora than Yozora does and so the Toy Box crowd sees that image instead of the Yozora we see (or something to that effect). Super convoluted but we'd be lying if we didn't say that's par for the course for Nomura.
@@psyborg89 Yeah for sure, it also reminds me of when Xigbar looked at Xion in 358/2 Days, he saw Ven instead. Toy Box is actually a super interesting world, in the fact that Young Xehanort states that it's a "copy" of the real world and the toys were transported there, which is why Andy can't be found. This is the exact same trope used in DDD with the two copies of Traverse Town. Not sure what this all means, but I think YX knows a lot more than we may suspect
I really like the ideas that you brought out with this theory. You have great editing, are very descriptive, and the whole thing was visually fantastic. Easy sub from me!
Something I only just noticed after about my sixth time watching this video is that the "Darkness" in Kingdom Hearts kind of operates similarly to the starscourge in 15. Not sure if the starscourge was a Nomura or Tabata inclusion, but it just reminds me of how Ardyn was initially absorbing it from other people to heal them but it wound up being part of the reason that he ended up the way he did. And the Master of Masters plan is to have the Darkness absorbed into himself and the Foretellers in order to get rid of it.
It seems darkness is a concept that exists in most FF games just with different names, Sin in FFX, geostigma in FF7 etc they are all very similar ideas
... wow, absolutely outstanding work. I do think the Master's name's gonna be Sol, just on the basis of how similar it sounds to Sora... Nomura loves those kind of parallels you've earned a well-deserved follow 😊
If you think about it, Luxord has the least screen time of all Organization XIII members, yet he is so rememberable and charismatic that his voice can immediately be recognized from a few words.
I think in the end KH will be super simple. Nomura has made his storyline so "complicated" and "guessable" ON PURPOSE. He wants all of us to be guessing and theorizing the outcomes of the series, just so he can come back, and smack us all right in the face with simplicity. Its simple. It has to be.
This is honestly pretty cool, and really has me thinking after all the parallels were shown. But those three names in particular, each one of them sound so unique and fit so well... This video was a beautifully made man, edited, voiced and even the music. I hope that your right.
Ay, in XV Ardyn said "you'll never guess who Izunia was," I'm thinking MOM may be Izunia and this is an over arching plot to bridge together KH and FF.
Literally watching this video on a daily basis and I'm salty it's not getting that much views despite your marvelous work. I'm sharing this on Twitter idc
Anyone else just kinda come back every couple of months and watch through this guy's amazing videos? Love these videos, man. Eager to see more. Also fun fact: After hearing your explanations for each name. I ended up giving my FFXIV character the surname Astrum. just sounds so badass and heroic.
His name is really PoP (Pastor of Pastors), but seriously, great theories man! Looking forward to his reveal even more now to see if one of the names sticks :D
Subscribing and liking- I completely agree with the last name. I think it encompasses the grand idea he really is much more than calling him just light. Really awesome video and a joy to watch
28th sub and 28th like! Phenomenal first video. Great presentation. You put some great ideas out there, particularly with the research you did into the Master's name, those are some suggestions I ain't ever heard before and you presented a convincing case for them all. But yeah I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you on that nameless star bit! 😁 But your counterpoints were fair and expressed well. I look forward to seeing what else you come out with.
Oh wow, you were one of the few inspirations for me to start making KH videos in the first place, so it means the world to me that you enjoyed the video!! (Your name is in the end part of the video if you didn't happen to catch it) Even though I've heard the Sora/Nameless Star theory from a few places, you were definitely the person in mind when writing that section. I suppose only time will tell, eh? Glad you're sticking around for what else I have in store and thanks for watching
@@SonnyNovus Ah I missed that. Thanks a lot for the mention! Feels weird seeing my name in someone else's video, and even weirder that you said I was one of your inspirations. I know I got videos from over a year ago, but I only started getting serious about these videos in November, so I'm still a newbie to this myself, so to hear that I've inspired anyone is flattering. And ofc I'm sticking around man, I have no doubt you'll continue to produce some great stuff
I just want to say, Luxu is more of a Ardyn equivalent than the Master is. The master of masters is in his own league, and I don’t think he even has a real name or a sense of identity. Much like his keyblade which he says has no name as well. It’s almost like he lost his identity from wherever he came from, he’s spiritually enlightened. I think he wants to make a name for himself, i think his name should start with the letter Z as well because I don’t know of any original Kingdom hearts character with that starts with the letter Z. I say he should name himself “Zora” because he’s possibly Sora’s father, and clearly Yozora ties in with everything somehow. I think his real name is Zora, and that’s something that literally no one has guessed. Maybe it’s something simple like “Zac” which is a name that can’t really be affected by the letter X lol.
Im convinced MoM is light personified or an agent of light of some sort. Im also convinced that when he disappeared he did something along the lines of a light version of heartless/nobody turning into Yen Sid and Merlin alike. That OR just Yen Sid is MoM, or at least tightly acquainted, and heres some reasons why i beleive that: Yen Sid is a keyblade master, so where did his keyblade go? He gave it to Luxu. Also Yen Sid creates new keyblades for Riku, and Mickey, and (as far as I know) the only person known to be able to CREATE keyblades was MoM. In KH3 the ONLY time you see Yen Sid anywhere but seated in his chair is in the Keyblade graveyard when he descends from the sky as a ball of light then uses light to part the sea of darkness like friggin Moses. I think Nomura intentionally wanted us to be reminded of Moses in that scene. Also in KH3 one of the loading screens is Mickey saying "the second youre not looking Master Yen Sid's tower pops up someplace new. Who'd have thought he has a playful side?" Well in KHUX Chirithy narrator says "in the Master's playful and mischievous way he gave his apprentice, Luxu, a very important role." I dont think thats a coincidence either. BOTH Yen Sid AND Merlin just CREATED worlds outside of the normal constraints of time for every other world in the realm of light. That right there could explain where MoM disappeared to. Merlin's bag of infinite space is (presumably) a lot like the black box. In KH3 when you meet up with Merlin at the bistro he says "this side of Big Ben". I believe that to be very intentional because obviously Big Ben is in London IRL. Quadratum is modeled after Shabuya in Tokyo. "This side" may be referring to what Ansem the wise called "our side" and the other side of Big Ben being "unreality". Was Merlin letting slip that he's had tea on the other side (unreality/quadratum)? I believe so. Im also quite surprised no one has pointed out the "quad" as in a 4 sided square in quadratum. Light, dark, inbetween, and QUADratum ("unreality") being the 4th side. At the very least i believe Yen Sid at the very least acquainted with MoM in a big way because of the two most obvious clues that should be slapping every KH junkie in the face: the first is the skull with the melting candle ontop is on both Yen Sid's AND MoM's desk, and the most damning of all is Yen Sid's book thats always open with wierd symbols that look an awful lot like any sneek peak we ever got at the Book of Prophecies. NOT TO MENTION in KH2 he lets you read its 3 sections: The Beginning, Interlude, and The FUTURE STORY!!!! YEN SID HAS A BOOK OF FRIGGIN PROPHECIES! Which would explain why Yen Sid was so obsessed with Sora obtaining the Power of Waking so he can further his plot in Quadratum! It couldnt have had anything to do with waking Ventus. Riku had the power of waking the whole damn time. He could have done it. One last point: as far as I know the only characters to ever say "may your heart be your guiding key" are ones that have ties to the age of fairytales, yet Yen Sid utters it right before they depart for the keyblade graveyard in KH3, and at the very beginning Goofy says he always used to say it. Im sure i could find many other small reasons why I believe Yen Sid (and possibly Merlin as well) IS the Master of Masters. At the very least I think (unless Nomura does something stupid) its pretty undeniable Yen Sid is, or was, at the very least intimately intertwined with MoM. If you actually read this whole comment please let me know what you think about my theory! Add some supporting clues, or point out holes and flaws! As far as i can tell theres only one youtube video about this theory, but its not very in depth or compelling, and i would LOVE to see some attention brought to the points ive made here! Thanks for reading, Champ!
Leaving a comment, hoping that more people can find you; I can see the hard work put on the video and on the theory itself and it was just so well made and executed; I'll love to see more content from you, and thanks for the video!!
Honestly for the video only being up for a week so far, I couldn't be more grateful for how much traction this has received for a brand new channel. I always get new feedback every day and it has only been increasing. For you to have seen it, UA-cam must be doing something right lol I can only thank people like yourself who took the time out of their day to click, watch and comment. I sincerely hope you'll stick around, I have more cooking in the oven as we speak.
I think you are truly on to something with "astra" it holds the twin meanings of sky and star befitting a master of light tied somehow to Sora. Though if we were looking into Fabula Nova Chrysalis lore, I don't actually think Arden will give us much predictive value... not directly. FFXV was isolated from the rest of the trilogy it was made for. FF13 focused on Etro, while Agito/Type 0 focused on Lindsei... which left Pulse's story mostly untouched. FF13-2 was originally planned but after they canned 13-versus they decided to continue with 13-3. The main themes of 13-3 were the death of the world, redemption and rebirth. Of these themes FF15 seemed to follow all of them, but it advertised a forth theme: brotherhood. If I were to hazard a guess of what was removed from FF13-versus to give of XV, I would guess it was the dead goddess of death and rebirth, Etro and her sibling Pulse. If we add the implications of these two back in, Arden becomes someone who Bound to the Fal'ce Ifrit and was under the domain of Pulse... In fabula nova chrysalis lore followers of Pulse all got pretty caught up in the formation of Chaos, or the souls of the dead that failed to move on. If the MoM were banished to a realm outside of normal spacetime where dimensional powers are lost and voices cannot reach, this resembles the Unseen Realm first named in FFVI, but present in much if the series. In FFIX the first layer to entering the Unseen Realm is Memoria, also called as Valhalla, past Memoria is the Crystal World which holds back Chaos and the Void. Chaos in Final Fantasy is kind of the power of the living heart and dead soul, it is more complicated than that something something darkness, something something light, something something astral energy, something something Crystals. Regardless of the exact details the power of the Heart is under the domain of Chaos in Final Fantasy games, and in FF13-2 the death of Etro causes the power of chaos (in this case souls) to run amok leading to the events in 13-3 where no one can die and souls can't reincarnate, also the world is shrinking as it starves to death. How does this apply to 13-versus and Ardyn? We don't know the exacts, but early trailers with the song Somnus had Stella praying to a dead Etro, Noctus was the prince/king to a kingdom with the Last Crystal (fal'ce), and the ancient Ardyn was playing politics while acting on the behalf of Ifrit(?assuming that wasn't changed). With these pieces it seems reasonable to guess that Ardyn was acting in a role not unlike Garland, trying to save the dead at the cost of the living. From what we have seen of the MoM, going into some Unseen Realm, having a plan that has already brought the dead back to life, having a plan to defeat the tide of darkness for good, perhaps he is in fact going to make a Flood of Light that will sacrifice Quadratum in order to prevent further floods of light or darkness, thus appeasing the dead and creating a new world that is free from the Karma of the past. Honestly a plan like this is one of being blinded by the light and accidentally doing an evil with the best intentions... the MoM might be another Ansem the Wise style character more than the true mastermind and villain of Kingdom Hearts like people are hyping him up to be. I expect him to test Sora rather than try to defeat Sora, and Sora will likely have to defeat him and stop his dangerous plans to have Kingdom Hearts scour darkness from the World or somesuch. Then after he would do his best to provide guidance to Sora and Co but he would pass the chessboard onto Sora
A little off topic, but I had a thought about Demyx and his “hanging out with the old guy a lot. The ‘May Your Heart Be Your Guiding Key guy’.” I think the “Old Guy” is Luxu or, rather, Luxu’s heart, separated from Braig’s body after Xigbar’s creation.
Xigbar is luxu, he even said so at the end of KH3. The “old guy” and “may your heart be your guiding key” guy probably IS Xigar, or to be more precise luxu.
Demyx knows Xigbar. As I said in the video: 1. Xigbar would never say this phrase out in the open 2. Demyx wouldn't say the "May your heart be your guiding key guy", he'd just say "Xigbar". Him saying that implies that he doesn't know who he's talking to and he's unfamiliar.
This is incredible!! I love this vid and looking forward to more coming from you, about KH or whatever, your enthusiastic presentation is infectious. Thanks for this!
WOAH! I know you! I remember watching your grand unified KH theory video back when that dropped. You and many others were an inspiration for me. If I've seen a theory, chances are it inspired me to start making videos. I'm not only thankful, but honored that you'd take the time to watch this. I hope you'll stick around for more. Hoping to release my next video sometime this month!
Damn this was a good one man. First vid too? You ever done content before like on an older channel? You seem way too experienced to be completely new but either way great job! I'm not sure how long it takes to put videos like this together, but the effort shows for sure
Hey, i want to say that this video is possibly the greatess most planned out kh theory ive seen so far. I love how you took this time and effort to find the big meaning in little details. Im also gald that you too notice the similarities between prompto and demyx. But i have a question, have you ever stopped to think, "man i cant beleive im making connections to old biblical and mythological deities to a frickin video game that was supposed to be a fun and loving adventure about an anime boy and his freinds donald and goofy as they try to save disney worlds".
Oh yeah, of course, especially with the Moloch one. I was like "Am I going too far here?" and I remembered that this is Tetsuya Nomura and you can't go far enough when you're dealing with X's on shirts and time travel. And I'm really humbled that you think that highly of my video, I hope you'll stick around! This video wouldn't exist if it weren't for theorists like The Secret Reports and WaterKH!
@@SonnyNovus dont worry ill stick around for this fun ride. But i have another question, would you consider the possibility that the characters from the game "the world ends with you" would have a minor role in all this.
@@Livin900 Even though Nomura said that the Shibuya in KH3's secret ending isn't related to the one in TWEWY, I definitely think the characters at least will show up in some capacity, especially Joshua.
I think the “old guy” he was referencing was luxord. Your previous argument was how luxord & demyx are paired & then in the next segment you break that up by making it luxu. I still like this a lot though!
... Could Luxord be realistically referred to as an old guy? I don't think it's even a consideration if I'm being honest. Also, in 358/2 days, Demyx and Xigbar are seen together in cutscenes. And thank you for watching the video, I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
@@SonnyNovus One thing that I thought when i watched secret ending with Yozora and probaly Luxord, is that in the unreality world there must be key-blades. Xemnas told that they (marluxia, larxene, loxord and demix) will reveal the ancient Keyblade legacy. 2 different worlds and times but 1 conection an "ancient keyblade ". How could Xemnas know this? My theory is that Xehanort sensed that Xigbar wasn´t the person who he knew. But Xehanort didn´t pay attention because he discover that Xigbar´s role was planned in the book of propheties and he could discover that Xigbar´s role was bigger than he thought. he accepted to continue his plan because he knew that he was the choosen one to rebuilt the world (I think Xehanort in a way, Xehanort read the book of prophecities). The goal of Xehanort´s research was to travel to the unreality world and he changed his goal to rebuilt the world. Maybe because to travell to the other world he needs kingdom hearts. Between the games dark road and BBB, the research of Xehanort was only theoretally and he was triying to convert in real. Xehanort was very advanced by that time: He knew 2 ancient keyblade legacy (one marluxia and larxene and another luxord and demix), the clas a pure darkness vs a pure light (ventus vs vanitas), the class 7 lights vs 13 darknesses, he sensed somthing about Xigbar/Luxu and the black box. The last thing is that there was a keyblade war kh3 ahead and Yen-sid was studiying the lost keyblade masters. Yensid was preparing to the next war, althought they won or not the first one. Without Xehanort and Eraqus, Yen-sid now is the one with the most knowledge of keyblade. I am more interested in the past of the characters than the future.
@@Sergio-kx3pq Yeah for sure, Keyblades are definitely in the mythos of Unreality. We see Keyblades on Yozora's sleeve in the pattern of a skull and crossbones, with Sora (hair) being the skull. Since the concept of the "Keyblade War" is ancient, it could very well be that the two universes diverged from the same point. The fact that Yozora KNOWS of the name Sora, but isn't familiar with anyone called Sora, seems like his name is almost mythological in that universe. Paired with the skull on Yozora's sleeve literally being Sora's head, and suddenly you think: Was Sora an "ancient Keyblade master" to the people of Unreality? Is Unreality the distant future of the timeline where light expired, therefore painting Sora as this worshiped martyr of this past? An idea that I had with Unreality is that they have KEYblades. Not a "Key" as in to open a door or a lock, but rather a keyboard or a keypad. You know, built upon magitech powers. So perhaps Yozora's weapon is a KEYblade, but not the traditional one lol As for Xigbar and Xehanort... I have a theory I'm whipping up in the background, so stay tuned :)
@@Sergio-kx3pq I think Apprentice Xehanort was trying to study the Unreality in Subect X's heart, which is why Xigbar disappeared her. This wold also explain why Ansem, Seeker of Darkness was looking for he in 3. He didn't know Xigbar had taken her, so he assumed like Apprentice did that Diz took her.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 The Nameless Star is pretty much confirmed to be the girl Yozora was trying to save, so that leaves the most likely candidate for Subject X as Skuld from Union X who is from Reality, not Unreality. But I DEFINITELY think Xehanort knew at least a few things about Unreality for sure! Wherever Xigbar took her is anyone's guess
Soooo I just reached 100 subs. I wanted to say that the reception from this video has been fantastic and I am over the moon with all of the kind words you guys have written! It honestly means a damn lot, so from the bottom of my vessel's heart, I thank you. I hope to see all of you in my upcoming videos if you choose to stick around
You deserve it. I’m 7 minutes in and I’m loving it so far because you aren’t just grasping at straws
I finished it last night and oh my God you seriously found multiple names in that edit to where you make him say the names amazes every single time. I really wonder how you did it and this theory is the best one that I’ve seen other than though he is light theory
@@henoccharlot708 Haha thanks for the kind words! The voice impression is all thanks to the voice actor Chris Burns. He did those names specifically for this video
Man I cant believe it. Was just recommended your video after watching all the people you mention, but your theory blows all the others out of the water. Really looking forward to your next Braig video. I'd like to ask if there's any chance you'd talk about more paralels between VS XII and Verum Rex, or how TWEWY fits in the next KH stories. Big props to you and I will share this around!
@@SpanishEchidna Thank you for the kind words friendo. It appears you've seen the Braig/Luxu thumbnail on my twitter feed! That was originally going to be my next video, but I've pushed it back to 3rd video since I'm working on something else currently. It's coming along nicely, should be out later this month. Can't wait for you to see it!!
his names gonna be something simple like Jim
If it was Bob, that would be true humour.
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That does sound like a Nomura thing lol.
His name could be Sam
S. Sol
A. Astrum
M. Moloch
@@mechashadow Bob of Bobs
Astrem, anagram for Master, would be the ultimate checkmate move in this multi-dimensional chess game that is Kingdom Hearts lol
I was thinking exactly the same thing!
it would also sound similar to astrum
“There is no U in Astrem, cause you aren’t a part of it and my plans.”
9000 IQ
That would be cool
When you think about it, Sol can also be an acronym of "Seeker Of Light"
Yep! A few people in the comments mentioned that! Also, Astrum can also be altered to Astrem, which is an anagram for Master
Also,in Latin derived languages like Spanish and Portuguese,Sol means sun
Best theory
I really like Sol, since it could also be used as an acronym for “Seeker of Light”
Best MoM identity theory I've seen yet! One thing though: Yozora asking Sora why he's using "Sora's" name actually lends to the idea that Yozora does know a Sora that doesn't look like our Sora (you interpreted it as the opposite). For example, Yozora could know an older Sora (future Sora) or a vessel that houses Sora's heart or a piece of his heart. Yozora is surprised Sora is using the name Sora, but by asking why Sora is using Sora's name, it makes it sound like he has met a Sora that is not the Sora standing in front of him (does that make sense). Basically, he has met a Sora that is not the present Sora.
I actually think this exchange lends a lot to the theory that MoM is the future Sora (even though I'm not fully convinced of that theory myself) just because of Yozora's reaction: if MoM is the Ardyn of Quadratum and Yozora is the Noctis, then they would be enemies. If Yozora were to meet a younger MoM (or Noctis met a younger Ardyn), would Yozora not try to save him from his fate? The whole Yozora conversation and the two endings would make a lot of sense in that context.
EDIT: I do think that MoM has an original name, though. It makes sense this would be the case (I love the options you presented: they're all great contenders). I just think it's possible Yozora knows a different version of Sora and that Sora has ties to MoM in some way. Also, I've always personally believed that Yozora was MoM's nobody. But that's another theory altogether.
Thank you!! Those are some kind words; I hope you'll stick around
Interesting 🤔
He does say why are you using “sora’s name” as if to say that he knows for sure that the name belongs to someone else...
He definitely knows of a sora for sure, wether or not he’s met anyone named sora is to be debated.
@@SonnyNovus that thing you said about quadratum possibly being set in a the future of a timeline where darkness won against light like the BoP predicts... that’s very interesting. And I have something to add to that (you probably already got it figured out tho lol)
When sora time traveled/used the power of waking for the first time, what happened to the timeline that he left? It most likely got conquered by darkness because sora pretty much disappears. And there probably were legends and fairy tales about it that yozora has heard of (probably heard the stories from the person who told him to save sora) And he’s probably thinking to himself “if sora hadn’t had disappeared, we would be in a better timeline”. Which is why he looks a little mad or disappointed when he says “sure... I’ve heard of you”
So anyways, quadratum isn’t just unreality/fiction, it’s a whole other timeline that we could’ve seen if sora wasn’t the main character that we were following.
Looks like the master has already succeeded in his plans to defeat all the darkness, at least in one timeline, he’s probably also trying to get rid of darkness across all timelines. Not exactly sure how it works, but it’s just that he needed ONE timeline where darkness failed, in order to erase the darkness in the whole universe
Just something I thought I’d add to it. This is all so interesting and I can’t wait till we get the next kingdom hearts game
@@Z-A-C Yeah, I'm thinking that he knows the name Sora like we all know of the name "Jesus" for example. We don't literally know a guy named Jesus or have met him, but we are familiar with the name.
The reason why I say Jesus is because the skull and crossbones on Yozora's sleeve are modeled after Sora's head (hair) and two Keyblades, symbolizing Sora's death. This leads me to believe that the Book of Prophecies is like a bible, and the guardians of light (Sora, Riku, Mickey etc) are all martyr figures and worshiped for their bravery in the Keyblade war. So Quadratum could be the distant future of either Data Daybreak town or the future where Sora lost and never changed his fate.
But analyzing Yozora's dialogue, it's pretty clear he doesn't know anybody using the name personally because he's so impartial. He just accepts Sora with lines like "If you are who you say" and "Sora? You're Sora? Sure, I've heard of you."
Nomura watching this video be like "welp time to scrap that name"
Rewatching this vid for the second time. I seriously mean it when is say this - I cannot wait for more content from you. Literally anything.. just wanna hear your thoughts. I appreciate KHs lore so much and bearing other people talk about it is just so satisfying.
I hope in future videos you brush on why yozora looks like riku etc.
Take care!
It humbles me that you'd take the time out of your day to watch my vid for a second time, so I sincerely thank you!!
I have a long list of videos that I'll be cracking on with (around 15 on my list so far!) and I've been editing my 2nd video ever since this one dropped, which should be released at the end of this month or early May.
One of the videos on my list will be specifically around Riku and his role. I won't spoil it for you, but Yozora will definitely play a part. Thank you for sticking around
It’s quite awesome
I mean, we all know the real reason that Yozora looks like Riku is that both look the way they do because Nomura is still salty about FFVSXIII.
Here I thought you were a seasoned veteran in the war of UA-cam content creation with a vast archive of content I could peruse. Instead I find I am fortunate to witness a legend in the making.
This was a wonderful video and I can't wait to see more. You have my subscription and attention.
Bro I thought the same thing. Like this is the mans FIRST video. How the fuck do you even improve from here? This dudes gunna be an absolute legend.
Me too!! I just found this and expected a backlogs of videos
A few more little anecdotes for you guys:
What is Demyx's title in the Organization? The Melodious Nocturne. It basically means "Melody of the Night". Could this further hint at a connection between Demyx and Yozora?
Also, some geniuses in the comments noticed that Astrum is almost an anagram of Master, so could Nomura alter the name to Astrem for the double meaning? Still a neat little find, though.
That seems to be the case, I find it strange that his choice of instrument is a sitar however. Perhaps there is a bigger reason as to why, or not who knows at this point.
If it interests you I noticed something odd that might be re-contextualized with this whole Quadratum reveal and the world of "Fiction" being a thing.
It was strange during base KH3 that Luxord and Demyx have not any designated real names and that still remains to be the case. Perhaps is it possible that Luxord and Demyx are fake names already in the first place?
Returning to the Book of Prophecies the Master of Masters made, it has the ability to harness powers from the future in-game as medals and as worlds the player can go into. They are in the same vein as Pooh's storybook, essentially fiction yet they exist as gateways only lasting an impact in the pages of the book.
Since Luxord and possibly Demyx are people from Quadratum, that begs the question...how did they get in? Were they in the Unchained State? But that would mean others from Sora's realm should have strong connections to them before.
The Master of Masters seems to be a fit but then there is another dilemma there, how can they interact with the world if they are Unchained? So I now then postulate that they went in a similar way, they have the connection and the means seem attainable.
That would present its own problems namely, how can they affect reality in Sora's world if it was by going in a fictional world. However the Book of Prophecies spans the events after the Keyblade War as well and by creating the book MOM essentially made Sora's reality into fiction. Time wouldn't even be an issue if the two were in the Unchained State after all they have the connection and they can follow through using it.
Perhaps, that was the reason as to why MOM created the books in the first place so that he can hop into the KH world and to Quadratum, easily bypassing the two. Why else would he make them for the Foretellers even though he essentially manipulated them into ruin?
The names might not even matter if that is the case, the two act like they are just experiencing and interacting with the story. Sort of like Avatars in a video game.
Well, this was a lengthy toss in the ring. There are many holes to my hypothesis that couldn't see.
Also, why did I not see you sooner? You have great presentation and scripting as well as a soothing voice. Your work is criminally underrated.
@Abdullah Alluhaidan I don't think so. The X is called the Recusant's Sigil and started with Xemnas and can be used by Xehanort in any of his iterations to track anyone marked with it (any of the Nobodies in Organization XIII or Sora, since he was marked with an X on his clothing). Xehanort got the idea from the Greek letter chi since he's obsessed with creating the X-blade (and the fact his own name had an X in it didn't hurt either). The Master of Masters was born way, WAAAAAAY before Xehanort, so I don't think it's likely his name would have an X except by sheer coincidence.
Maybe the master could even have some relation to the nameless star, maybe being her father
just imagined Prompto saying "Dance bullets dance!" while blasting at the enemies and yeah, I hope the Demyx part is true, it would be awesome.
I read this in David Bowie’s singing voice…
Honestly, I love the whole thing with the repeated Master of Masters clip. It's so creative, and so compelling. I could watch this video multiple times, it's just so good. Makes me want to make something like this too. Awesome work!
Thank you for the kind words, friendo
The thing that most people don't know about Square is that a lot of ideas/stories they created were reused for future titles. FFVII created 3 other Final Fantasy games after it, when the staff did the story's concepts synopsize for the FFVII pitches and even Nomura created the character in Tifa after the story beats were already laid out for FFVII well into pre-production.
FFVIII son Father dynamics were used. FFX world was the idea pitched for FFVII originally.
So Nomura reusing his original story for Verse XIII in Kingdom Hearts might sound crazy but it's not an uncommon practice for the company at all. They've had a history of weaving new stories from story seeds from other game pitches. ;)
Waste not, after all.
I feel like Sol has the highest chance since we’re dealing and it’s also a sound synonym, nice editing~
Dealing with hearts* ironically
Astrum could also be an anagram for Master. Astrum -> Mastur. just a little interesting insight haha
Ooooo!
Im gonna mention how yozora was gonna save sora by basically trapping him for all eternity. Can it be that sora's fate is being the ardyn of the story and yozora just wants to save him just by intervening like that? We know mom is shown in quadratum
This is incredibly well edited, and you bring up points I never thought of before!
Well done, this is great.
OK I LITERALLY CRIED TWICE WATCHIN THIS AND I AM LEFT WITH ONE QUOTE:
"OK I BELIEVE YOU" I will see myself out
Grow up
14:57 "They are looking at each other, just as how we see them"
Upon rewatching, this reminded me of
"I think I understand. I see myself the way you remember me. And you see yourself the way I remember you."
The only difference is that Yozora doesn't remember Sora because he doesn't know what Sora looks like, only the name.
Sora may be seeing Yozora as how he remembers, but it's strange for that to be the case only with Sora exclusively and not Yozora too, hence why I don't think there are any illusions at play. Yozora has been in that form for a while, even outside of his dreams when he wakes up in the car
Oh yeah 🤣 I remember that line
THIS THEORY IS SO UNDERRATED WTF
this is an incredible theory. the editing was done so well and you brought a lot to light that even had me me like “OH WAIT” cause things started clicking. hope to see something taken out of your theory into the future games. keep up the incredible work. :)
Thank you for the kind words
Ardyn had to take demons into his body. The master of masters spoke of taking in darkness without letting it control him.
This was beautiful, loved your work here man 😭😭
If you take apart the symbol of the master of masters you get what would resemble Soul Eater, a wing-like like sword, and the nobody symbol. my question is this, can you lose a heart to light in the same you can to darkness.
Awesome Question :) Never Heard Of This Before :) Thanks For Bringing It Up :) I'm Thinking You Can Lose Your Heart The Same Way As You Can In The Darkness :) Cool Concept Of Mom's Symbol :)
Hmmm good question 🤔
I swear when people do kingdom hearts theories they go far and beyond and I love it just makes me more hype!
This was wonderfully edited! I can’t wait to see more of your work.
I just wanted to add that the person who did an impression of MoM saying Moloch scared me. It felt a little too real lol.
If you watch the cutscene from KH3 where kairi reads a letter to Sora during her training with YEN SID - you will see a similiar “light flash” on the screen when kairi says “Sora.”
Check it out- pretty strange
I think this will give you more proof to the MoM name.
oooo I'll be sure to check that out, thanks for the heads up!
Incredible theory, incredible editing, what can I say, it’s briliant! I hope you will bless us with more videos in the future.
Thanks for the kind words! And absolutely, I have a long list of theories I'm working on tirelessly. I'm glad you're along for the ride :)
@@SonnyNovus Ah that’s great news, I can’t wait ;)
This literally the best theory video I've ever seen on the topic. as a die hard fan of both KH and FF, this video was so well researched and the editing is insane! I had to subscribe right away.
I second that
Facts.
One of the best things about KH is the theory crafting, and this is one of the better ones I've heard. Very well done.
Your video is the perfect example of why I love Kingdom Hearts and how Nomura writes his stories. I have subscribed to your channel!
Love that you used Dark Cloud music, i love that game
I like the idea that forms can be stolen in quadratum and I wonder if riku appears in a time in quadratum before sora had arrived, and yozora takes his form from him. Maybe riku is the one who tells yozora about sora after he is defeated or something
That would also mean that the timeline of quadratum is definitely not parallel with the ours because yozora in riku’s form is shown in the toybox realm. And also I’m starting to think that the master stole yozora’s original body/form because why else would yozora need to take someone else’s form unless he’s lost his own to somone else?
@@Jinsei24 could either be yozora or the master in that case as we see both the master and yozora in that last scene... If it does happen to be yozora in riku lookalike watching over him form then that makes me even more confused as to why he looks like riku.
Omfg with the update today, maybe Brain ("was") Xigbar and is just pretending to be Luxu because (he lied) and did read the book of prophecies in full. This could mean Demyx did hear the may your heart be your guiding key from Xigbar as he is in fact Brain and not Luxu.
The way Brain said it, it was like he had ownership of it like his own personal mantra. Having said all of this, that is not to say Luxu couldn't have body swapped with Brain later on to take on the KH3 identity of Xigbar.
As for the naysayers maybe when Brain passed the book unto Ventus he didn't want to create a temporal paradox so he told Ventus he never really read much of it (when in fact he did).
Well based on another theory I saw a year ago and what happened in the KHUX story update with darkness saying "we don't like light either". The MoM's name is "Light"
Honestly The name Moloch would be the coolest one and the most terrifying. I’d pick that one.
Edit: so I now realize, he’s related to 4 main things. Light, Ardyn, Pride, and Lucifer
His name has to be more close to something that’s related to light.
So that actually eliminates Moloch as an option. As cool as that name is it can’t be it.
It HAS to be either Sol or Astrum
Sol = light/sun Lucifer and pride
Astrum = light/star Ardyn and Lucifer (Ardyn was pretty much an equivalent to the Antichrist in FFxv
What if his name a combo of both like “astrol” or “solstrum”
Unless there’s another word that has a tie to all 4 connections to the master of masters, it has to be either Astrum, sol, or a combination of both
Finally. A lore channel like vaatividya that i can fall asleep to, but for kingdom hearts. I've scoured everywhere on UA-cam for a channel like this. Thank you. 😌
AMAZING theory, I also love how you’re the first to actually touch on Yozora’s form “not being his own”
It would seem you have years of experience doing this UA-cam thing! Amazing video, subbed. Keep at it bro
Dude, i literally "TRAVELED" by watching your video, i didn't even realize 35 whole mins have passed, that's mind blowing, you have an absolutely incredible and unmatched (at least for me) talent for these videos.
Just..wow.
Okay so I just had this minor thought with the Astrum name, what if Nomura does a little switch and makes it Astrem instead of the u? If you swap that around it is an anagram of Master. Hmmmmmm
Also, Astrum, Eyes like a Hawk. Eye of Providence.
Plus move the letters around like with nobody's and astrum could be mastur
I'm watching this entire video for a second time because it's so good! Some might be intimidated by the length but they're just missing out 💙
WOW. That means a lot to me that you enjoy it this much. Can't wait for you to see what else I have in store
@@SonnyNovus looking forward to more good content bro
It's my 3rd time and still loving it 😌
@@TheGentleLotus I think ima watch it again too, I don't remember it from the title alone 😭 I feel like this was one of my favs
The mixing of KH with the background music of Silent Hill makes me more interested as the video progresses. 😯
Yesssss! It just tucks you neatly into this vibe
Weird observation, Magia actually looks extremely similar to Ardyn from FF15. The hair, the hat, and the coat.
I’ve listened to this multiple times, and I am FLOORED by the work and detail you’ve put in here. Your points genuinely make a lot of sense, and your presentation of them is captivating. This easily put you in my top favorites for this kind of content, and I look forward to your thoughts in the future!
Thank you so much for taking to time to watch the video multiple times! and I look forward to seeing you in my upcoming videos. Videos like this take time but I am hard at work to get them out there as we speak
This is a truly amazing video! The editing is flawless, I love the idea of MoM being Arden, and just all of it is an excellent video. Thank you for the credit, though I would have settled for the link in the description. It's the first time I've been given a shout out on UA-cam. I've already subscribed, and I can't wait to see what else you come up with!
It was my pleasure!! And likewise. That entire Demyx section wouldn't exist if it weren't for you.
@@SonnyNovus If you ever want to collab, let me know. Best way to reach me right now is email, pajamaletsplay@gmail.com. I just recorded a video about the Norse Gods in Dark Road, but I noticed that mention of Niflheim with Arden, so there's probably something there.
@@pajamaletsplay9859 That will definitely be something I will consider in the future! Right now I have a slew of different videos and topics planned, one of which I'm working on as we speak. I'll be sure to write it down in my plans. Thanks so much for watching my video and best of luck with your future projects!!
Glad this was in my recommended. A very fun listen
Well done. I can't say anymore. - Zeal
This video was beautifully put together
31:20 The 7 doors could even be represented by the 7 black pieces as seen in the cutscene of Xehanort being shown a new game by Eraqus. 7 Pieces of Dark and 1 White King. 7 Dark Doors and 1 Light Moloch. This is further fueled by a bunch of the black pieces having tops that represent each of the union leaders, all sharing animals symbolically tied to the 7 deadly sins, as well as 1 representing the heartless symbol (Riku possibly due to how prominently it is on his keyblade up until KH3, or possibly representing the door to darkness that Riku helped close) and 1 which is hard to discern the exact shape of due to the camera angles.
The 7 black pieces are the five foretellers, Luxu and the MoM. Five pieces all with the union animals, Luxu with his goat symbol and MoM with his symbol as seen on the book of prophecies. Sora is the single white piece.
It'll be really interesting to see how the foretellers will antagonize Sora, seeing as how they don't seem inherently evil when we see them in Back Cover and KH3. Ugh, personally I'd LOVE for his name to be Moloch. It just sounds sick lol
Hot damn this is awesome. The amount of research and putting the bits together you did really shines through throughout this entire video. Can't wait to see more theories from you.
This was a really strong theory, and it was great to watch.
Though, playing FFXV the parallels don't end with just the characters and their roles. The experiments with the Heartless explained in KH1 and the reports explaining the events of the Star scourge found through Nifilheim on the way to the crystal share very striking similarities. Just like in both cases when a heart turns into a heartless the body disappears, the same thing happens when becoming a daemon and is spread like a pandemic. The artificial heartless and magitech soilders both work on very similar principles as well. And in this case the crystal for lucis and the keyhole are both important keeping their world from falling to darkness.
Why bring this up, I'm not entirely convinced all of Nomura's idea were scrapped when making FFXV. Noctis was absolutely supposed to play as a thematic parallel to Sora. And Nomura might still be playing with that idea.
Have you looked at Baldr and Lady Lunareya's brother? They look similar.
It’s gems like this video that are the reason I love YT. I love everything about this video. The visual presentation, your vocal delivery & the background music choice- especially the ones from Dark Cloud, one of my favorite games of all time. With a like, favorite and subscribe I eagerly await the next video you produce.
Aww, thanks a bunch. It honestly means quite a lot to me that you'd say that. Dark Cloud and KH were actually the very first PS2 games I played at my cousin's house as a wee child, so those two games are closely connected in my brain. SUCH a good ost, too!
It just gives the video a unique sense of identity to contrast slapping a familiar KH track everyone knows and calling it a day lol
My next video is coming very soon, so see you then!!
Awesome video! Was instantly hooked, you literally made a 35 minute video feel like a 5 minute video, because there was never a dull moment.
Keep up the awesome work! 👍🏼
Your work is fascinating. Came straight here from your second video. You are doing the untold depths of Kingdom Hearts some real justice. Great use of music here as well, givin me chills and all that good stuff. Fantastic.
This is a truly terrific video; extremely compelling, well edited, and you have a great speaking voice. Looking forward to potentially more content from you. Earned yourself a sub.
... fun fact, Lucius is one of the Latin names that mean light
Also, people forget that there was 2 rikus in the game, Riku - sora's friend, and Rikku - FFX-2 member of the gulwings (KH2)
I’ve been really into video essays on my favorite video games and I’ve stumbled on channels like yours, The Secret Reports, Damo279, and so many more and you all have amazing theories and do such a great job editing these video essays!! Please keep doing these videos cause they are honestly beloved!! (Side note but I screamed when I heard the music from Dark Cloud in the intro cause I grew up playing that game and that specific song you used is ingrained in my mind!!)
What that music called 9:08.
Mind blown! I actually sat down and took a page of notes on this! This is one of the best theories ive ever seen i really look forward to future theories vids of yours now i gotta go do some research and contemplating
Wow man, that is some unreal praise. I always love it when a theory inspires others to come to their own terms, so I sincerely thank you. My new video is so close to being done! It's just in the clean-up stages now.
What? This is your first video? The quality is insane!
Haha thanks ;) hope you stick around
@@SonnyNovus Yes! I've subbed and hit the bell, looking forward to more!
@@SonnyNovus whoa that’s incredible
Let’s also not forget that the Toy Story characters thought Sora was Yozora despite him looking almost nothing like him. Maybe our image of sora and what we see isn’t what sora looks like
It is very strange that Rex mistook Sora for Yozora, despite looking nothing like him save for the clothes. In the cut cutscene from the jumpfesta trailer back in 2018, Rex also mistook Donald and Goofy for Magia and Aegis but it was removed from the final product.
Yozora says "This isn't what I really look like"... so perhaps before his appearance was changed, he looked a lot more like Sora? That would explain why Rex mistook him. Perhaps in the early game of Verum Rex, Yozora's appearance gets changed to look more like Riku.
But the main thing that disproves this is that Yozora never comments on Sora's appearance. If Sora maybe looks like the original Yozora, then he would notice that when they meet and he'd say something about it. Either Rex is a complete and utter idiot or perhaps the toys are actually seeing Yozora from the video game instead of Sora.
@@SonnyNovus it is a tough one to figure out why they thought that, but like you stated, little to nothing has "no relevance" in a Nomura script. There's a reason they mistook Sora for Yozora despite clear differences in appearances (especially with the blocky aesthetic that Sora had in Toy Box). Maybe the same way some people saw Roxas and the really saw Sora and vice versa they are seeing Yozora but someone else's heart that he is housing. Perhaps the form Yozora is now is the equivalent of Roxas to Sora and thus there is a Ven that the image is based off of. Yozora's actual "heart" looks more like Sora than Yozora does and so the Toy Box crowd sees that image instead of the Yozora we see (or something to that effect). Super convoluted but we'd be lying if we didn't say that's par for the course for Nomura.
@@psyborg89 Yeah for sure, it also reminds me of when Xigbar looked at Xion in 358/2 Days, he saw Ven instead.
Toy Box is actually a super interesting world, in the fact that Young Xehanort states that it's a "copy" of the real world and the toys were transported there, which is why Andy can't be found. This is the exact same trope used in DDD with the two copies of Traverse Town. Not sure what this all means, but I think YX knows a lot more than we may suspect
Unless they literally see him as Yozora 🤣
I really like the ideas that you brought out with this theory. You have great editing, are very descriptive, and the whole thing was visually fantastic. Easy sub from me!
This video and theory is unbelievably great--I can't wait to watch what else you'll make (love the music choices!!!)
Something I only just noticed after about my sixth time watching this video is that the "Darkness" in Kingdom Hearts kind of operates similarly to the starscourge in 15. Not sure if the starscourge was a Nomura or Tabata inclusion, but it just reminds me of how Ardyn was initially absorbing it from other people to heal them but it wound up being part of the reason that he ended up the way he did. And the Master of Masters plan is to have the Darkness absorbed into himself and the Foretellers in order to get rid of it.
It seems darkness is a concept that exists in most FF games just with different names, Sin in FFX, geostigma in FF7 etc they are all very similar ideas
... wow, absolutely outstanding work.
I do think the Master's name's gonna be Sol, just on the basis of how similar it sounds to Sora... Nomura loves those kind of parallels
you've earned a well-deserved follow 😊
Dude this video was top notch 👌🏼 The theory was great. Loved the editing and music. Please make more 🙏🏼
If you think about it, Luxord has the least screen time of all Organization XIII members, yet he is so rememberable and charismatic that his voice can immediately be recognized from a few words.
LUXord...oh my god
I think in the end KH will be super simple. Nomura has made his storyline so "complicated" and "guessable" ON PURPOSE. He wants all of us to be guessing and theorizing the outcomes of the series, just so he can come back, and smack us all right in the face with simplicity. Its simple. It has to be.
Digging the Dark Cloud Music. Great video!
Bro you worked so hard on this I had to sub
This is honestly pretty cool, and really has me thinking after all the parallels were shown. But those three names in particular, each one of them sound so unique and fit so well...
This video was a beautifully made man, edited, voiced and even the music. I hope that your right.
This is a good first impression. Greet vid! Subscribed now 🤟🏾
Ay, in XV Ardyn said "you'll never guess who Izunia was," I'm thinking MOM may be Izunia and this is an over arching plot to bridge together KH and FF.
Literally watching this video on a daily basis and I'm salty it's not getting that much views despite your marvelous work. I'm sharing this on Twitter idc
Anyone else just kinda come back every couple of months and watch through this guy's amazing videos? Love these videos, man. Eager to see more. Also fun fact: After hearing your explanations for each name. I ended up giving my FFXIV character the surname Astrum. just sounds so badass and heroic.
His name is really PoP (Pastor of Pastors), but seriously, great theories man! Looking forward to his reveal even more now to see if one of the names sticks :D
Subscribing and liking- I completely agree with the last name. I think it encompasses the grand idea he really is much more than calling him just light. Really awesome video and a joy to watch
More videos please! This was incredible!
We could have the parallel of Kings of Yor from FFXV and the Keyblade Masters of KH.
28th sub and 28th like! Phenomenal first video. Great presentation. You put some great ideas out there, particularly with the research you did into the Master's name, those are some suggestions I ain't ever heard before and you presented a convincing case for them all. But yeah I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you on that nameless star bit! 😁 But your counterpoints were fair and expressed well. I look forward to seeing what else you come out with.
Oh wow, you were one of the few inspirations for me to start making KH videos in the first place, so it means the world to me that you enjoyed the video!! (Your name is in the end part of the video if you didn't happen to catch it) Even though I've heard the Sora/Nameless Star theory from a few places, you were definitely the person in mind when writing that section. I suppose only time will tell, eh? Glad you're sticking around for what else I have in store and thanks for watching
@@SonnyNovus Ah I missed that. Thanks a lot for the mention! Feels weird seeing my name in someone else's video, and even weirder that you said I was one of your inspirations. I know I got videos from over a year ago, but I only started getting serious about these videos in November, so I'm still a newbie to this myself, so to hear that I've inspired anyone is flattering. And ofc I'm sticking around man, I have no doubt you'll continue to produce some great stuff
I just want to say, Luxu is more of a Ardyn equivalent than the Master is. The master of masters is in his own league, and I don’t think he even has a real name or a sense of identity. Much like his keyblade which he says has no name as well. It’s almost like he lost his identity from wherever he came from, he’s spiritually enlightened. I think he wants to make a name for himself, i think his name should start with the letter Z as well because I don’t know of any original Kingdom hearts character with that starts with the letter Z. I say he should name himself “Zora” because he’s possibly Sora’s father, and clearly Yozora ties in with everything somehow. I think his real name is Zora, and that’s something that literally no one has guessed. Maybe it’s something simple like “Zac” which is a name that can’t really be affected by the letter X lol.
Im convinced MoM is light personified or an agent of light of some sort. Im also convinced that when he disappeared he did something along the lines of a light version of heartless/nobody turning into Yen Sid and Merlin alike. That OR just Yen Sid is MoM, or at least tightly acquainted, and heres some reasons why i beleive that: Yen Sid is a keyblade master, so where did his keyblade go? He gave it to Luxu. Also Yen Sid creates new keyblades for Riku, and Mickey, and (as far as I know) the only person known to be able to CREATE keyblades was MoM. In KH3 the ONLY time you see Yen Sid anywhere but seated in his chair is in the Keyblade graveyard when he descends from the sky as a ball of light then uses light to part the sea of darkness like friggin Moses. I think Nomura intentionally wanted us to be reminded of Moses in that scene. Also in KH3 one of the loading screens is Mickey saying "the second youre not looking Master Yen Sid's tower pops up someplace new. Who'd have thought he has a playful side?" Well in KHUX Chirithy narrator says "in the Master's playful and mischievous way he gave his apprentice, Luxu, a very important role." I dont think thats a coincidence either. BOTH Yen Sid AND Merlin just CREATED worlds outside of the normal constraints of time for every other world in the realm of light. That right there could explain where MoM disappeared to. Merlin's bag of infinite space is (presumably) a lot like the black box. In KH3 when you meet up with Merlin at the bistro he says "this side of Big Ben". I believe that to be very intentional because obviously Big Ben is in London IRL. Quadratum is modeled after Shabuya in Tokyo. "This side" may be referring to what Ansem the wise called "our side" and the other side of Big Ben being "unreality". Was Merlin letting slip that he's had tea on the other side (unreality/quadratum)? I believe so. Im also quite surprised no one has pointed out the "quad" as in a 4 sided square in quadratum. Light, dark, inbetween, and QUADratum ("unreality") being the 4th side. At the very least i believe Yen Sid at the very least acquainted with MoM in a big way because of the two most obvious clues that should be slapping every KH junkie in the face: the first is the skull with the melting candle ontop is on both Yen Sid's AND MoM's desk, and the most damning of all is Yen Sid's book thats always open with wierd symbols that look an awful lot like any sneek peak we ever got at the Book of Prophecies. NOT TO MENTION in KH2 he lets you read its 3 sections: The Beginning, Interlude, and The FUTURE STORY!!!! YEN SID HAS A BOOK OF FRIGGIN PROPHECIES! Which would explain why Yen Sid was so obsessed with Sora obtaining the Power of Waking so he can further his plot in Quadratum! It couldnt have had anything to do with waking Ventus. Riku had the power of waking the whole damn time. He could have done it. One last point: as far as I know the only characters to ever say "may your heart be your guiding key" are ones that have ties to the age of fairytales, yet Yen Sid utters it right before they depart for the keyblade graveyard in KH3, and at the very beginning Goofy says he always used to say it. Im sure i could find many other small reasons why I believe Yen Sid (and possibly Merlin as well) IS the Master of Masters. At the very least I think (unless Nomura does something stupid) its pretty undeniable Yen Sid is, or was, at the very least intimately intertwined with MoM.
If you actually read this whole comment please let me know what you think about my theory! Add some supporting clues, or point out holes and flaws! As far as i can tell theres only one youtube video about this theory, but its not very in depth or compelling, and i would LOVE to see some attention brought to the points ive made here! Thanks for reading, Champ!
Leaving a comment, hoping that more people can find you; I can see the hard work put on the video and on the theory itself and it was just so well made and executed; I'll love to see more content from you, and thanks for the video!!
Honestly for the video only being up for a week so far, I couldn't be more grateful for how much traction this has received for a brand new channel. I always get new feedback every day and it has only been increasing. For you to have seen it, UA-cam must be doing something right lol
I can only thank people like yourself who took the time out of their day to click, watch and comment. I sincerely hope you'll stick around, I have more cooking in the oven as we speak.
You need way more subscribers, this theory was so good!!!
He really started this whole vid with dark cloud soundtrack "the spirit king" massive props
I think you are truly on to something with "astra" it holds the twin meanings of sky and star befitting a master of light tied somehow to Sora. Though if we were looking into Fabula Nova Chrysalis lore, I don't actually think Arden will give us much predictive value... not directly. FFXV was isolated from the rest of the trilogy it was made for. FF13 focused on Etro, while Agito/Type 0 focused on Lindsei... which left Pulse's story mostly untouched. FF13-2 was originally planned but after they canned 13-versus they decided to continue with 13-3. The main themes of 13-3 were the death of the world, redemption and rebirth. Of these themes FF15 seemed to follow all of them, but it advertised a forth theme: brotherhood. If I were to hazard a guess of what was removed from FF13-versus to give of XV, I would guess it was the dead goddess of death and rebirth, Etro and her sibling Pulse. If we add the implications of these two back in, Arden becomes someone who Bound to the Fal'ce Ifrit and was under the domain of Pulse... In fabula nova chrysalis lore followers of Pulse all got pretty caught up in the formation of Chaos, or the souls of the dead that failed to move on. If the MoM were banished to a realm outside of normal spacetime where dimensional powers are lost and voices cannot reach, this resembles the Unseen Realm first named in FFVI, but present in much if the series. In FFIX the first layer to entering the Unseen Realm is Memoria, also called as Valhalla, past Memoria is the Crystal World which holds back Chaos and the Void. Chaos in Final Fantasy is kind of the power of the living heart and dead soul, it is more complicated than that something something darkness, something something light, something something astral energy, something something Crystals. Regardless of the exact details the power of the Heart is under the domain of Chaos in Final Fantasy games, and in FF13-2 the death of Etro causes the power of chaos (in this case souls) to run amok leading to the events in 13-3 where no one can die and souls can't reincarnate, also the world is shrinking as it starves to death. How does this apply to 13-versus and Ardyn? We don't know the exacts, but early trailers with the song Somnus had Stella praying to a dead Etro, Noctus was the prince/king to a kingdom with the Last Crystal (fal'ce), and the ancient Ardyn was playing politics while acting on the behalf of Ifrit(?assuming that wasn't changed). With these pieces it seems reasonable to guess that Ardyn was acting in a role not unlike Garland, trying to save the dead at the cost of the living. From what we have seen of the MoM, going into some Unseen Realm, having a plan that has already brought the dead back to life, having a plan to defeat the tide of darkness for good, perhaps he is in fact going to make a Flood of Light that will sacrifice Quadratum in order to prevent further floods of light or darkness, thus appeasing the dead and creating a new world that is free from the Karma of the past. Honestly a plan like this is one of being blinded by the light and accidentally doing an evil with the best intentions... the MoM might be another Ansem the Wise style character more than the true mastermind and villain of Kingdom Hearts like people are hyping him up to be. I expect him to test Sora rather than try to defeat Sora, and Sora will likely have to defeat him and stop his dangerous plans to have Kingdom Hearts scour darkness from the World or somesuch. Then after he would do his best to provide guidance to Sora and Co but he would pass the chessboard onto Sora
A little off topic, but I had a thought about Demyx and his “hanging out with the old guy a lot. The ‘May Your Heart Be Your Guiding Key guy’.” I think the “Old Guy” is Luxu or, rather, Luxu’s heart, separated from Braig’s body after Xigbar’s creation.
Best theories I’ve heard in a while. Visuals were great as well. Keep up the good work!
Xigbar is luxu, he even said so at the end of KH3. The “old guy” and “may your heart be your guiding key” guy probably IS Xigar, or to be more precise luxu.
Demyx knows Xigbar. As I said in the video:
1. Xigbar would never say this phrase out in the open
2. Demyx wouldn't say the "May your heart be your guiding key guy", he'd just say "Xigbar". Him saying that implies that he doesn't know who he's talking to and he's unfamiliar.
Absolutely incredible video. You definitely got my head spinning. Looking forward to the next one!
This is incredible!! I love this vid and looking forward to more coming from you, about KH or whatever, your enthusiastic presentation is infectious. Thanks for this!
WOAH! I know you! I remember watching your grand unified KH theory video back when that dropped. You and many others were an inspiration for me. If I've seen a theory, chances are it inspired me to start making videos. I'm not only thankful, but honored that you'd take the time to watch this. I hope you'll stick around for more. Hoping to release my next video sometime this month!
An anagram of Astrum is Mastur... which looks a lot like Master. And we know Nomura likes anagrams... just sayin’, good find.
beautifully constructed video! It paved way for more possible speculation and theories to come. Thank you very much!
Damn this was a good one man. First vid too? You ever done content before like on an older channel? You seem way too experienced to be completely new but either way great job! I'm not sure how long it takes to put videos like this together, but the effort shows for sure
Fingers crossed he makes a lot of content! Can’t wait for the next video
Hey, i want to say that this video is possibly the greatess most planned out kh theory ive seen so far.
I love how you took this time and effort to find the big meaning in little details.
Im also gald that you too notice the similarities between prompto and demyx.
But i have a question, have you ever stopped to think, "man i cant beleive im making connections to old biblical and mythological deities to a frickin video game that was supposed to be a fun and loving adventure about an anime boy and his freinds donald and goofy as they try to save disney worlds".
Oh yeah, of course, especially with the Moloch one. I was like "Am I going too far here?" and I remembered that this is Tetsuya Nomura and you can't go far enough when you're dealing with X's on shirts and time travel.
And I'm really humbled that you think that highly of my video, I hope you'll stick around! This video wouldn't exist if it weren't for theorists like The Secret Reports and WaterKH!
@@SonnyNovus dont worry ill stick around for this fun ride.
But i have another question, would you consider the possibility that the characters from the game "the world ends with you" would have a minor role in all this.
@@Livin900 Even though Nomura said that the Shibuya in KH3's secret ending isn't related to the one in TWEWY, I definitely think the characters at least will show up in some capacity, especially Joshua.
astrum would fit into the conventional nomura naming convention
astrum = mastur
it's not perfect, but it works
Amazing job on this. I loved every second of it
I think the “old guy” he was referencing was luxord. Your previous argument was how luxord & demyx are paired & then in the next segment you break that up by making it luxu.
I still like this a lot though!
... Could Luxord be realistically referred to as an old guy? I don't think it's even a consideration if I'm being honest. Also, in 358/2 days, Demyx and Xigbar are seen together in cutscenes. And thank you for watching the video, I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
@@SonnyNovus One thing that I thought when i watched secret ending with Yozora and probaly Luxord, is that in the unreality world there must be key-blades. Xemnas told that they (marluxia, larxene, loxord and demix) will reveal the ancient Keyblade legacy. 2 different worlds and times but 1 conection an "ancient keyblade ". How could Xemnas know this? My theory is that Xehanort sensed that Xigbar wasn´t the person who he knew. But Xehanort didn´t pay attention because he discover that Xigbar´s role was planned in the book of propheties and he could discover that Xigbar´s role was bigger than he thought. he accepted to continue his plan because he knew that he was the choosen one to rebuilt the world (I think Xehanort in a way, Xehanort read the book of prophecities). The goal of Xehanort´s research was to travel to the unreality world and he changed his goal to rebuilt the world. Maybe because to travell to the other world he needs kingdom hearts.
Between the games dark road and BBB, the research of Xehanort was only theoretally and he was triying to convert in real. Xehanort was very advanced by that time: He knew 2 ancient keyblade legacy (one marluxia and larxene and another luxord and demix), the clas a pure darkness vs a pure light (ventus vs vanitas), the class 7 lights vs 13 darknesses, he sensed somthing about Xigbar/Luxu and the black box. The last thing is that there was a keyblade war kh3 ahead and Yen-sid was studiying the lost keyblade masters. Yensid was preparing to the next war, althought they won or not the first one. Without Xehanort and Eraqus, Yen-sid now is the one with the most knowledge of keyblade.
I am more interested in the past of the characters than the future.
@@Sergio-kx3pq Yeah for sure, Keyblades are definitely in the mythos of Unreality. We see Keyblades on Yozora's sleeve in the pattern of a skull and crossbones, with Sora (hair) being the skull. Since the concept of the "Keyblade War" is ancient, it could very well be that the two universes diverged from the same point. The fact that Yozora KNOWS of the name Sora, but isn't familiar with anyone called Sora, seems like his name is almost mythological in that universe. Paired with the skull on Yozora's sleeve literally being Sora's head, and suddenly you think: Was Sora an "ancient Keyblade master" to the people of Unreality? Is Unreality the distant future of the timeline where light expired, therefore painting Sora as this worshiped martyr of this past?
An idea that I had with Unreality is that they have KEYblades. Not a "Key" as in to open a door or a lock, but rather a keyboard or a keypad. You know, built upon magitech powers. So perhaps Yozora's weapon is a KEYblade, but not the traditional one lol
As for Xigbar and Xehanort... I have a theory I'm whipping up in the background, so stay tuned :)
@@Sergio-kx3pq I think Apprentice Xehanort was trying to study the Unreality in Subect X's heart, which is why Xigbar disappeared her. This wold also explain why Ansem, Seeker of Darkness was looking for he in 3. He didn't know Xigbar had taken her, so he assumed like Apprentice did that Diz took her.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 The Nameless Star is pretty much confirmed to be the girl Yozora was trying to save, so that leaves the most likely candidate for Subject X as Skuld from Union X who is from Reality, not Unreality. But I DEFINITELY think Xehanort knew at least a few things about Unreality for sure! Wherever Xigbar took her is anyone's guess
Regarding the star symbolism there is an old Disney movie called The Black Hole and we know how black holes are born. From the death of a star.