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Like many others who have commented, I'm a novice recurve target archer, so I REALLY appreciate this simpler method for tying nocking points. Thank you. I hesitate to offer a suggestion to an expert like you, but you mentioned (and demonstrated) that the final loop in each nocking point "series" tends to loosen while you're removing the gaps between wraps. As you're tying that last loop, try simply running the "tag" end of the serving material through the open loop TWICE instead of once. This creates what we recreational fishermen call a "surgeon's knot," and it won't open up as easily as a simple overhand knot. Just a thought . . .
Good explanation, thanks! One addition thing that I do is to run the thread through a stick of glue a couple of times to coat it before I start. It makes the thread a bit more grippy and easy to handle.
Literally watched 100 videos tonight about nocking, i bought brass points and a metal d loop with my first bow not realising firstly id need pliers for the brass ones and a release aid for a d loop... i thought you just put your finger in the d loop to draw back 😅😅 So now ive come across this video ive just ordered some serving and gonna do this method. Thankyou so much! Your other videos ive seen have been great use too!
I have watched so many videos on this that have made a mess of this process. This video is brilliantly done. It’s very clear and well shot. This is the only video you should watch to nock your bow.
Personally I would pull each knot a lot tighter as you go and not leave a gap. Also, I have tied hundreds of nocking points and never damaged a string. As long as there is serving underneath there is little chance of that. It is best to use a lighter versus a torch and make sure the flame is going up...away from the string so you burn the ends with the bottom of the flame.
Came across your video some time ago and filed it away for future use. Used it today on a new string, works a treat and is so much less complicated than the Korean method. Incidentally, it's called West Country whipping, normally used on ships rope ends.
This is not a whip stitching. It is a simple, yet incorrect wrap. He should have used a whip stitch. Whip stitching makes the string very tight and it will not move. The way he did it, it will move up and down.
@TACTICALNOMAD hence the suggestion of Krazy glue, no?
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I use this method all the time, with a twist. I always run the thread through some hot-melt adhesive (not melted) to get som “stickiness” to it. And when I’m done i keep a lighter close to the nocking point to melt the glue stuck to the thread. That makes a nocking point that doesn’t move when your doing your knots, and really sticks when it’s done. When you need to remove it, it’s still really easy since hot-melt adhesive doesn’t behave like normal glue.
Thank you for this one! I've watched a LOT of your videos. I'm a beginner archer. It's great fun. I just tied my first nock point. Cannot wait to try. But today is raining... :(
Thanks! There's a little more here, but I'll make a video in the future too :) www.onlinearcheryacademy.com/recurve-technique-set-hook-grip/#set-thumbpinky
I was shooting without nocking points. I was wondering why it was always a bit to high or a bit too low when I aim it nicely. I would hit bullseye sometimes but I’m sure that’s because I accidentally found the perfect Nock point on my bow
Very well explained. Thank you. What I don't understand: why would you place the bottom knock point at 8 mm above centre? Doesn't that place the arrow in a slightly downward inclined position? Why should the arrow not be exactly straight?
Newby and a great nocking point creation. Is there a way to use a carpenters set square to determine the location versus purchasing the tool you use as I have a set square at home already.
thanks, what about finishing with a double knot? then cutting and burning? and...what about wax instead of superglue? This way you can move it if needed in time.
Thanks for the video! Appreciated! I've used fishing line braid...was all I had. Seems to be absolutely fine so far! But like you mention it's very strong line so I didn't go full Hulk on tightening!
thanks Ash, for posting this. It's very helpful. Do you find that the nock height you've illustrated here is something that you don't need to tune much? As in, that nock height is what is acceptable to most normal functioning bows? thanks again
Hey Anurag! Thanks so much for watching - the nocking point material is 0.021" angel and the centre serving is 0.018" Angel. It's really good to have the nocking point material slightly thicker than the centre serving material as it helps prevent the nocking point splitting the centre serving apart when you tighten the nock point :)
DO NOT PUT SUPER GLUE! It will literally eat away at your string material if it goes through. People who complain about their strings breaking at the nocking point usually have used super glue on their string.
I’d imagine if you don’t saturate the string but rather just dab the knot it would be fine. Anything that alters the tension through the fibers of the string could cause weakness, like an over crimped brass stop.
Interesting... everyone seems to do instructional videos on this in very different ways... making a nock like this that slides and still holds... another way I know is a lot easier to do... but this is interesting... the way I do it no glue is required at all... but everyone is different... more than one way to do the same thing.
I'm surprised you didn't get an answer earlier as that seems like the logical thing to do. After putting a bare shaft arrow on my bow it was real easy to see why the nocking point has to go about 1/2" high , I couldn't believe how bad the bare shaft flew with the nock point at 90 degrees.
You can - but I'd recommend not shooting them too much whilst unglued as this method of tying isn't that secure without glue. My other video shows a much more secure method :)
I found this one two month ago and applied now; like the small size of the nocking point and the ability to adjust. On the other side quite stable. ua-cam.com/video/j8EghWvyUcA/v-deo.html
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Like many others who have commented, I'm a novice recurve target archer, so I REALLY appreciate this simpler method for tying nocking points. Thank you.
I hesitate to offer a suggestion to an expert like you, but you mentioned (and demonstrated) that the final loop in each nocking point "series" tends to loosen while you're removing the gaps between wraps. As you're tying that last loop, try simply running the "tag" end of the serving material through the open loop TWICE instead of once. This creates what we recreational fishermen call a "surgeon's knot," and it won't open up as easily as a simple overhand knot. Just a thought . . .
Love this! Thanks for the improvement - my knot-tying skills welcome the upgrade!
Good explanation, thanks! One addition thing that I do is to run the thread through a stick of glue a couple of times to coat it before I start. It makes the thread a bit more grippy and easy to handle.
Great tip!
Literally watched 100 videos tonight about nocking, i bought brass points and a metal d loop with my first bow not realising firstly id need pliers for the brass ones and a release aid for a d loop... i thought you just put your finger in the d loop to draw back 😅😅 So now ive come across this video ive just ordered some serving and gonna do this method. Thankyou so much! Your other videos ive seen have been great use too!
I have watched so many videos on this that have made a mess of this process.
This video is brilliantly done. It’s very clear and well shot. This is the only video you should watch to nock your bow.
Except that you should not burn your string ends... You could damage your actual String.. and don't use glue... Just double knot at the end
Personally I would pull each knot a lot tighter as you go and not leave a gap. Also, I have tied hundreds of nocking points and never damaged a string. As long as there is serving underneath there is little chance of that. It is best to use a lighter versus a torch and make sure the flame is going up...away from the string so you burn the ends with the bottom of the flame.
Came across your video some time ago and filed it away for future use. Used it today on a new string, works a treat and is so much less complicated than the Korean method. Incidentally, it's called West Country whipping, normally used on ships rope ends.
This is not a whip stitching. It is a simple, yet incorrect wrap. He should have used a whip stitch. Whip stitching makes the string very tight and it will not move. The way he did it, it will move up and down.
@TACTICALNOMAD hence the suggestion of Krazy glue, no?
I use this method all the time, with a twist. I always run the thread through some hot-melt adhesive (not melted) to get som “stickiness” to it. And when I’m done i keep a lighter close to the nocking point to melt the glue stuck to the thread. That makes a nocking point that doesn’t move when your doing your knots, and really sticks when it’s done. When you need to remove it, it’s still really easy since hot-melt adhesive doesn’t behave like normal glue.
Absolutely, great point!
Excellent tutorial thank you! first time replacing my nocking points been shooting 8 months and all your videos are invaluable, thank you :)
Thank you for this one! I've watched a LOT of your videos. I'm a beginner archer. It's great fun. I just tied my first nock point. Cannot wait to try. But today is raining... :(
thank you ver much my friend, greetings from Argentine
This particular serving method has served me well. It doesn't budge a single bit! Thank you for sharing these tips!
Glad it helped!
Thanks mate. Your channel is a great resource.
Thanks so much!! Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Thank you for your knowledge.
Amazing video, thanks for sharing.
One month in now in archery, slow learning these things 🙌 loving the educational content
Same
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Nice Bong Lighter ;)
Good video, thank you!
🤣 No worries, thanks for watching!
Good video! I'd like to know more about anchor thumb position
Thanks! There's a little more here, but I'll make a video in the future too :)
www.onlinearcheryacademy.com/recurve-technique-set-hook-grip/#set-thumbpinky
Thank you!
I was shooting without nocking points. I was wondering why it was always a bit to high or a bit too low when I aim it nicely. I would hit bullseye sometimes but I’m sure that’s because I accidentally found the perfect Nock point on my bow
Very well explained. Thank you.
What I don't understand: why would you place the bottom knock point at 8 mm above centre? Doesn't that place the arrow in a slightly downward inclined position? Why should the arrow not be exactly straight?
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It is perfect👍👍💯💯
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You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Perfect info
Thanks Othman!
Newby and a great nocking point creation. Is there a way to use a carpenters set square to determine the location versus purchasing the tool you use as I have a set square at home already.
thanks,
what about finishing with a double knot? then cutting and burning?
and...what about wax instead of superglue? This way you can move it if needed in time.
Thanks for the video! Appreciated! I've used fishing line braid...was all I had. Seems to be absolutely fine so far! But like you mention it's very strong line so I didn't go full Hulk on tightening!
thanks Ash, for posting this. It's very helpful.
Do you find that the nock height you've illustrated here is something that you don't need to tune much? As in, that nock height is what is acceptable to most normal functioning bows? thanks again
Hello ashe, can you plzzz tell the thickness of the thread for nocking point
Hey Anurag! Thanks so much for watching - the nocking point material is 0.021" angel and the centre serving is 0.018" Angel. It's really good to have the nocking point material slightly thicker than the centre serving material as it helps prevent the nocking point splitting the centre serving apart when you tighten the nock point :)
Does the top of the bottom nocking point always have to be higher than the centerline or does it depend on the bow and shooting style?
General knowledge I’ve worked from is, start with 1/2” above center line, fine tune from there.
I've shot recurves since age 14 and I'm 70 now. I've ALWAYS set the nocking point so the arrow sits on the rest absolutely level.
DO NOT PUT SUPER GLUE! It will literally eat away at your string material if it goes through. People who complain about their strings breaking at the nocking point usually have used super glue on their string.
Yer ..super glue gets really 🔥
I’d imagine if you don’t saturate the string but rather just dab the knot it would be fine. Anything that alters the tension through the fibers of the string could cause weakness, like an over crimped brass stop.
Nail mender works very well
Oh crap
Is this technique OK to use with a compound bow?
The explanation I ever seen
Thanks :)
What sort of string is this you are using? Maybe I missed it but is it just regular string for sewing/embroidery??
😅 nock, nock, nocking on heavens boow oh oh. Hey hey yeah. Arrows and roses. Gen X will relate to that😂
Does this method allow the nocking point to be adjustable?
Not really! Video coming soon on the best way to do that....
Interesting... everyone seems to do instructional videos on this in very different ways... making a nock like this that slides and still holds... another way I know is a lot easier to do... but this is interesting... the way I do it no glue is required at all... but everyone is different... more than one way to do the same thing.
I have a question that may be stupid or no. The arrow should knock at 90° degrees with the string?
I'm surprised you didn't get an answer earlier as that seems like the logical thing to do. After putting a bare shaft arrow on my bow it was real easy to see why the nocking point has to go about 1/2" high , I couldn't believe how bad the bare shaft flew with the nock point at 90 degrees.
Can you leave them unglued? If you want to adjust them later?
You can - but I'd recommend not shooting them too much whilst unglued as this method of tying isn't that secure without glue. My other video shows a much more secure method :)
Also, you should double knot at the end... And no glue
nocking point is the hardest thing to get right especially on some bows. you can see it on arrow flight.
Good info, but why the silly background annoyance music?
I'll do the next edit without and see how it is :)
I found this one two month ago and applied now; like the small size of the nocking point and the ability to adjust. On the other side quite stable. ua-cam.com/video/j8EghWvyUcA/v-deo.html
Actually, you should not burn them off cuz you could weaken your string
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Technically you don’t need a bottom knock point correct?
Didn't explain where exactly the level sat on the arrow rest..pretty vague.. no close-up
Not impressed
He literally did at 2:10... o.0
I don't understand why you begin the bottom one from the center of bow square
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