2 weeks in with this repair method and so far, so good. Factory starter was changed out over a year ago as it would "fail to engage" would be the best way to put it. It would click and give me a fault sometimes, like it it wasn't meshing with the flywheel. The replacement starter was good for about a month, then it began an intermittent grinding issue that got progressively worse, the flex plate service bulletin was also performed at the time of its replacement. Eventually, grinding issue got so bad I feared getting stranded. When I pulled the starter out I noticed the teeth on the starter looked fine but the teeth on the flywheel looked damaged and worn but I went ahead with the repair anyway. The old starter would have had several faults by now but no issues as of yet with this one so it doesn't seem like the teeth on the flywheel are too big of an issue. I'm using the remanufactured Denso starter from Rock Auto solely because it had the highest power rating (1.8Kw, P/N 2800403). I will update if anything changes but hopefully this is the fix because besides this super frustrating issue (and the VSA module) it's a great car. 2013 Accord EX-L Coupe V6
Yea, i hope its the fix as well. In a couple weeks, it will be a year with the past generation starter installed, and currently sitting on a tad over 15,000 miles with it.
Since 2021 and after 3 starters, including the updated oem starter. The car starts like a charm using a 2012 accord starter. I can't tell you how thankful i am. God bless you
Glad it helped and worked. Yea so far we are a few thousand miles in , not a single issue. Hopefully, this truly is the solution. Thanks again for watching, please hit the like and subscribe button.
No issues what so ever, been 4 and half months. Glad you found this video helpful. Thanks for watching, please hit the like and subscribe button. If you have anymore question(s) just ask, and I'll try and help.
Very good how-to. Going to try this on my 2015. Found a used Acura TL starter (31200-R70-A51) on eBay for about $75. Hoping this works out because I don't want to get rid of the car.
Hey thanks for checking out the video. Yea, same idea I had, didn't want to get rid of the car. Also need a better solution than a completely new starter, that might not work. One of those, spend $60-$70 to see if it's a better solution than Honda way. Make, sure to hit the like and subscribe button, thanks again.
@@ns5337 I had refurbished the original one that came with my car (bad starter part number 31200-5G0-A02), but it didn´t work out. I´ve decided to buy Honda's redesigned starter - part number 31200-5G0-A04, mentioned at TSB 16-002 - and carefully detailed in the description of the video. It has been working so far, 3 months later.
I have been dealing with this for over a year or so. Even bought a new starter and torque converter from Honda. Worked for a couple of months and started doing it again. Just bought a used STARTER from ebay part number Honda 31200-R70-A51 and put on my 2015 Honda Accord and so far so good no starter grind!!! I hope it stays that way. Thanks!!!!
Did you buy your part from eBay or eBay parts cause i have the same issues but I don’t want to get the wrong part or scammed and also am finding them for over 160+
You are absolutely correct, I know the TSB call for rotating flywheel when replacing the 002 starter with a 004. The reason I didn't is because I am not replacing with a 004. Just in case using the previous generation starter doesn't work. Then I can try and replace with a 004 starter and STILL do the flywheel rotation as per the TSB. As you know, the TSB states if the 004 starter with flywheel rotation doesn't work. The next option is to only replace the torque converter. Don 't think I want to have to go that route.
when I check to see if it fits before i buy it, it says that it doesn't fit to my 2014 honda accord exl v6. is that what it is supposed to say since it is an older generation
I'm curious to know, after a couple months, has the problem returned? That's what happens to my 2015 Accord V6. After the repair, the problem seems to be fixed for a few weeks, then it comes back gradually and gets worse. My first Honda - I thought I was buying quality, but now this problem with no factory recall - I realize I should have bought a Toyota instead.
No, not at all, so far going with the previous generation starter ( I.e. external solenoid) has been just fine. No issues what so ever. The car is driven daily as my wife uses the vehicle drop off and pick up my kid from school. Multiple starts during car pool line.
Good vdi on how to.. Looks pretty easy. Hopefully I won't have to deal with it, but only time will tell. I have a 2016 with only 77,000kms on it so it's relatively new, so I shouldnt expect any problems at this point. How many miles on your Honda and I presume it has the push button start.? Thanks again for the vid.
My Accord is a 2013 V6, with 190,000 miles (approx 305,000 km). Yes, push button start. We've had this issue very sporadically since about 100,000 miles (dealer replaced the starter for free at 105,000, 2/18). Recently it started to happen more often. More than the first go around. Hopefully going with a previous generation starter, will do away with this issue and last longer than 100,000 miles. I rather spend $70 instead of $450. Thanks for watching, as maintenance requires, I will put more videos up. Hopefully this will help you save a few hundred bucks.
Is this a permanent fix? 2014, 140,000 miles, purchased new. We have been through a NAPA starter, two Honda starters including the updated part number and of course done the TSB with rotation. The intermittent starting and grinding comes back. All of these fix-it videos install a starter and say they've fixed the problem. The vehicle will always start correctly with a newly installed starter but the issue does return.
I mean, you can ask me in a few years if this is a permanent fix or not. For $70, I was willing to try it. I had it installed since October of 2023 and 12K miles on it.
@@gilbosdiy I will probably try your idea asap. I don't have much to lose. The current Honda starter just started grinding again. It took a little over a year, about 20,000 miles for issues to arise again. Unbelievable.
i have a 2013 honda accord v6 as well. i have replaced the starter in 2019 and rotated the flywheel. problem was still there, in 2021 i changed the starter again, did not do anything to the flywheel. i want to try your method, can you post the ebay listing?
Thanks for watching. All the parts that I used is listed in the description below the video. Hope it helps. If you have any more questions, just ask and I'll try and help.
@@gilbosdiy So I got my 428000- 5380 Denso unit yesterday and installed it. So far 5/5 successful starts. I did have to cut that bracket off as well. And I did not rotate the flex plate because I did it in 2019 when I did the starter. Thank you for this video. I hope this fixes the problem.
At about the 2:10 mark of the video I remove a bolt that held the LOWER radiator hose (plastic piece, and thin sheet metal shaped piece). It is what the bolt is mounted to. If you have the two starters side by side current generation and previous generation. You can see the PREVIOUS generation starter, has the solenoid on the exterior of the starter. If you attempted to install the previous generation starter. That solenoid, will hit the bracket, and prevent you from installing the starter. Hope this helps. If you have anymore question(s), just ask and I'll try and help. Thanks again for watching
@@Shahroze_ I bought a new one, since it was only $10-$11 bucks from the dealer. To me not worth the headache reusing, just in case. You can choose to do what is best for you.
As long as the part number matches you should be fine, (31200-R70-A51). Then, the condition of the starter would be another thing to look at. Thanks for watching please hit the like and subscribe button if you found this video helpful. If you have anymore question(s) just ask.I'll try and help.
I have honda accord2015 v6 . My car start grinding now sometimes 2-3 times in day when i start car , some time after some days . So if i change only starter this can be fix ? Or i have to change some more things?
im going to have to do this to my car im wondering if i still have to spin the flywheel or i can just install the old starter also wondering how long its lasted since this video
@@gilbosdiy thank you for your reply. I am currently trying to find the part but it seems like I can’t find so I’m not sure if I can use one from a 2012 Honda accord exl v6
@@abrahamiservera6279 Search for a used starter with the part number, instead of by just Accord. That starter was used on alot of the Honda V6 vehicles. Pilot, Odyssey, Accord, Acura Just buy a cheap old one off eBay.
@@gilbosdiy Unfortunately for me I had already bought the starter motor for my 2013 Accord coupe v6 at autozone 😢 (it didn't work) and they told me that there was no cash refund, so I was able to exchange it right there for the one from a 2012 Accord v6 I will install it today and let you know how it worked.
@@alejandroh9168 Yeah , in that case, just have them exchange it. Remember you will have to grind away the bracket, in order for the starter to fit. The bracket on the engine gets in the way of the exterior solenoid on the starter.
@@gilbosdiy I've already done it, I've been testing it (5 successful starts, I just changed it today) the starter feels much better than the one supposedly designed for this model. I hope it continues to work as well as it has so far. Thank you very much for your help, I had seen it in forums but it wasn't until I saw it in your video that I was encouraged to do it.
@@alejandroh9168 You are welcome, glad it worked. Thanks again for watching. Please hit the like and subscribe button so we can grow this channel. Stay tuned, I will have another upgrade pretty soon, that I think you will find useful
No, 2014 and 2103 use the same starter. You need a starter from a previous generation V6 vehicle (i.e. before 2012). If you look at the description below the video, I have a part number of the starter listed that will work with the V6 Accord. Hope this helps. If you have anymore question(s) just ask. Please remember to hit the like and subscribe button.
2 weeks in with this repair method and so far, so good. Factory starter was changed out over a year ago as it would "fail to engage" would be the best way to put it. It would click and give me a fault sometimes, like it it wasn't meshing with the flywheel. The replacement starter was good for about a month, then it began an intermittent grinding issue that got progressively worse, the flex plate service bulletin was also performed at the time of its replacement. Eventually, grinding issue got so bad I feared getting stranded. When I pulled the starter out I noticed the teeth on the starter looked fine but the teeth on the flywheel looked damaged and worn but I went ahead with the repair anyway. The old starter would have had several faults by now but no issues as of yet with this one so it doesn't seem like the teeth on the flywheel are too big of an issue. I'm using the remanufactured Denso starter from Rock Auto solely because it had the highest power rating (1.8Kw, P/N 2800403). I will update if anything changes but hopefully this is the fix because besides this super frustrating issue (and the VSA module) it's a great car. 2013 Accord EX-L Coupe V6
Yea, i hope its the fix as well. In a couple weeks, it will be a year with the past generation starter installed, and currently sitting on a tad over 15,000 miles with it.
Since 2019, 3 starters, and 1 flywheel ago, this solution worked like magic! Truly, I am grateful for the information in this video - Thank you!!
WOW, that is a lot of starters. Well glad this video helped.
Since 2021 and after 3 starters, including the updated oem starter. The car starts like a charm using a 2012 accord starter. I can't tell you how thankful i am. God bless you
I have had this issue for 4 years tried the bulletin to no avail put the older starter in and boom problem fixed thank you for the info
Glad it helped and worked. Yea so far we are a few thousand miles in , not a single issue. Hopefully, this truly is the solution.
Thanks again for watching, please hit the like and subscribe button.
This looks like a much beefier starter with external solenoid and the gears look like they have more bite to them!
Thanks for this video. I've been dealing with this issue for years. Did the swap a few days ago and no grinding so far.
Glad the video helped. Yea, we have had it, installed since October of 2023. So over 8 months and over 10,000 miles, on it.
That's awesome
@@adriansandoval2125which starter did you purchase for your swap and also did you rotate the flywheel or just swapped the starter? Thank you
Did the swap and car starts perfectly! Thanks for the suggestion on using an older model starter and the how to video. Cheers.
No issues what so ever, been 4 and half months.
Glad you found this video helpful.
Thanks for watching, please hit the like and subscribe button.
If you have anymore question(s) just ask, and I'll try and help.
Great video It helped me fix my girlfriends issue with her 2014 accord keep it up
Glad the video helped. Hopefully it saves you a few hundred bucks.
Just did this on my 2013 accord....irs been over 2 weeks and no problems thus far... wow thanks so much for the video... amazing. Your the bomb!!!!!
Hey glad it helped. I've had this starter in my Accord since about mid October.Thanks for watching, make sure to hit the like and subscribe button.
Very good how-to. Going to try this on my 2015. Found a used Acura TL starter (31200-R70-A51) on eBay for about $75. Hoping this works out because I don't want to get rid of the car.
Hey thanks for checking out the video. Yea, same idea I had, didn't want to get rid of the car.
Also need a better solution than a completely new starter, that might not work.
One of those, spend $60-$70 to see if it's a better solution than Honda way.
Make, sure to hit the like and subscribe button, thanks again.
can´t wait for the result... I did the rotation and the refurbished the original... the problem came back in one week
So far I have had the Honda 31200-R70-A51 installed for almost 2 months and over 3,500 miles, no issues at all.
@@gilbosdiy thank you, I appreciate the information you provide us
Which refurbished unit did you use? I used the i
428000- 5380 Denso unit, same model number as @gilbosdiy and so far everything seems fine.
refurbished my own old starter... it didn´t work... @@ns5337
@@ns5337 I had refurbished the original one that came with my car (bad starter part number 31200-5G0-A02), but it didn´t work out. I´ve decided to buy Honda's redesigned starter - part number 31200-5G0-A04, mentioned at TSB 16-002 - and carefully detailed in the description of the video. It has been working so far, 3 months later.
I have been dealing with this for over a year or so. Even bought a new starter and torque converter from Honda. Worked for a couple of months and started doing it again. Just bought a used STARTER from ebay part number Honda 31200-R70-A51 and put on my 2015 Honda Accord and so far so good no starter grind!!! I hope it stays that way. Thanks!!!!
Did you buy your part from eBay or eBay parts cause i have the same issues but I don’t want to get the wrong part or scammed and also am finding them for over 160+
@@Robert79480 ebay just buy a USED one so you not out a ton of money if it doesn't work. I put the part number I listed above, I see it for $63-$115.
@@Robert79480 Yes I did. Worked like a CHAMP. No starter grind at all!!
Im a hodna tech. the reason u spin the flywheel one more moibting bolt is to make sure the flex plate and starter are within spec.
You are absolutely correct, I know the TSB call for rotating flywheel when replacing the 002 starter with a 004.
The reason I didn't is because I am not replacing with a 004.
Just in case using the previous generation starter doesn't work.
Then I can try and replace with a 004 starter and STILL do the flywheel rotation as per the TSB. As you know, the TSB states if the 004 starter with flywheel rotation doesn't work.
The next option is to only replace the torque converter. Don 't think I want to have to go that route.
So what is the reason the starter does not engage in the first place?
when I check to see if it fits before i buy it, it says that it doesn't fit to my 2014 honda accord exl v6. is that what it is supposed to say since it is an older generation
You absolutely correct. Watch the entire video. I talk what you need to do. To make it.
I'm curious to know, after a couple months, has the problem returned? That's what happens to my 2015 Accord V6. After the repair, the problem seems to be fixed for a few weeks, then it comes back gradually and gets worse. My first Honda - I thought I was buying quality, but now this problem with no factory recall - I realize I should have bought a Toyota instead.
No, not at all, so far going with the previous generation starter ( I.e. external solenoid) has been just fine. No issues what so ever. The car is driven daily as my wife uses the vehicle drop off and pick up my kid from school. Multiple starts during car pool line.
Incredible that they could have just used the starters they already knew worked@@gilbosdiy
Good vdi on how to.. Looks pretty easy. Hopefully I won't have to deal with it, but only time will tell. I have a 2016 with only 77,000kms on it so it's relatively new, so I shouldnt expect any problems at this point. How many miles on your Honda and I presume it has the push button start.?
Thanks again for the vid.
My Accord is a 2013 V6, with 190,000 miles (approx 305,000 km). Yes, push button start.
We've had this issue very sporadically since about 100,000 miles (dealer replaced the starter for free at 105,000, 2/18).
Recently it started to happen more often. More than the first go around. Hopefully going with a previous generation starter, will do away with this issue and last longer than 100,000 miles. I rather spend $70 instead of $450.
Thanks for watching, as maintenance requires, I will put more videos up. Hopefully this will help you save a few hundred bucks.
@@gilbosdiy If and when the time should come, I'll certainly opt for this option..depending on availability of parts here...
Is this a permanent fix?
2014, 140,000 miles, purchased new.
We have been through a NAPA starter, two Honda starters including the updated part number and of course done the TSB with rotation. The intermittent starting and grinding comes back. All of these fix-it videos install a starter and say they've fixed the problem. The vehicle will always start correctly with a newly installed starter but the issue does return.
I mean, you can ask me in a few years if this is a permanent fix or not. For $70, I was willing to try it. I had it installed since October of 2023 and 12K miles on it.
@@gilbosdiy I will probably try your idea asap. I don't have much to lose. The current Honda starter just started grinding again. It took a little over a year, about 20,000 miles for issues to arise again. Unbelievable.
i have a 2013 honda accord v6 as well. i have replaced the starter in 2019 and rotated the flywheel. problem was still there, in 2021 i changed the starter again, did not do anything to the flywheel. i want to try your method, can you post the ebay listing?
Thanks for watching. All the parts that I used is listed in the description below the video.
Hope it helps. If you have any more questions, just ask and I'll try and help.
@@gilbosdiy So I got my 428000- 5380 Denso unit yesterday and installed it. So far 5/5 successful starts. I did have to cut that bracket off as well. And I did not rotate the flex plate because I did it in 2019 when I did the starter. Thank you for this video. I hope this fixes the problem.
@@ns5337 Awesome, glad it helped. Yea so far still good on the one I installed in our 2013 Accord. Granted it's only been about 4500 miles.
Do you need to buy the new gasket as well?
Just got this done today works so far but we’ll see!
I'm having a hard time figuring out what part of the "bracket?" I have the grind off for it to fit.
At about the 2:10 mark of the video I remove a bolt that held the LOWER radiator hose (plastic piece, and thin sheet metal shaped piece). It is what the bolt is mounted to.
If you have the two starters side by side current generation and previous generation. You can see the PREVIOUS generation starter, has the solenoid on the exterior of the starter. If you attempted to install the previous generation starter. That solenoid, will hit the bracket, and prevent you from installing the starter.
Hope this helps. If you have anymore question(s), just ask and I'll try and help. Thanks again for watching
@@gilbosdiy Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense now. Super helpful! Thank you!
@@gilbosdiy one more question, is that gasket you bought necessary or can we reuse the gasket from the defective starter?
@@Shahroze_ I bought a new one, since it was only $10-$11 bucks from the dealer. To me not worth the headache reusing, just in case. You can choose to do what is best for you.
Please link the site you bought the starter from.
I picked the starter up off Ebay. The starter number is Honda 31200-R70-A51.
My 2016 Honda accord just started doing the “Grinding” noise. I’m looking at 2012 Honda Accord V6 starters, would that be a good option to go with ?
As long as the part number matches you should be fine, (31200-R70-A51). Then, the condition of the starter would be another thing to look at.
Thanks for watching please hit the like and subscribe button if you found this video helpful.
If you have anymore question(s) just ask.I'll try and help.
lol… just hack of bits and pieces.. That’s what I want to hear from my mechanic… lol
I can’t find one anywhere for less than 100. You found on eBay? What is the difference between the 428000-5380 starter and the 31200-r70-a51?
Yes, I got it on Ebay.
No different , just part maker, one is Denso and other is Honda
Denso 428000-5380
Honda 31200-R70-A51
I have honda accord2015 v6 . My car start grinding now sometimes 2-3 times in day when i start car , some time after some days . So if i change only starter this can be fix ? Or i have to change some more things?
For me, I installed the previous generation starter in my 2013 accord V6 since October and I haven't had any issue with it so far.
im going to have to do this to my car im wondering if i still have to spin the flywheel or i can just install the old starter also wondering how long its lasted since this video
I installed the previous gen starter WITHOUT rotating the flywheel.
I've had installed since October 2023, with around 12K miles. No issues yet.
@@gilbosdiy thank you for your reply. I am currently trying to find the part but it seems like I can’t find so I’m not sure if I can use one from a 2012 Honda accord exl v6
@@abrahamiservera6279 Search for a used starter with the part number, instead of by just Accord. That starter was used on alot of the Honda V6 vehicles. Pilot, Odyssey, Accord, Acura
Just buy a cheap old one off eBay.
@@gilbosdiyok thank you so much I have to find that part. The car you worked in in this video is a 2013 Honda accord exl v6?
@@abrahamiservera6279Yes it is a 2013 EX-L V6
Friend, thanks for your help. Could you tell me if it is the same as Duralast Starter 19014 from autozone?
I kinda think it sorta looks like the same. The Autozone starter is like over $200. Cheaper to grab one on ebay or junkyard.
@@gilbosdiy Unfortunately for me I had already bought the starter motor for my 2013 Accord coupe v6 at autozone 😢 (it didn't work) and they told me that there was no cash refund, so I was able to exchange it right there for the one from a 2012 Accord v6 I will install it today and let you know how it worked.
@@alejandroh9168 Yeah , in that case, just have them exchange it. Remember you will have to grind away the bracket, in order for the starter to fit. The bracket on the engine gets in the way of the exterior solenoid on the starter.
@@gilbosdiy I've already done it, I've been testing it (5 successful starts, I just changed it today) the starter feels much better than the one supposedly designed for this model. I hope it continues to work as well as it has so far. Thank you very much for your help, I had seen it in forums but it wasn't until I saw it in your video that I was encouraged to do it.
@@alejandroh9168 You are welcome, glad it worked. Thanks again for watching. Please hit the like and subscribe button so we can grow this channel. Stay tuned, I will have another upgrade pretty soon, that I think you will find useful
Still no problems?
Thanks for watching. So far so good still , 9 months over 10,000 miles.
So if I have a 2014 I need to buy a 13 year model starter?
No, 2014 and 2103 use the same starter. You need a starter from a previous generation V6 vehicle (i.e. before 2012). If you look at the description below the video, I have a part number of the starter listed that will work with the V6 Accord.
Hope this helps. If you have anymore question(s) just ask.
Please remember to hit the like and subscribe button.
Thank you so much for the info. Greatly appreciated sir.
KOOL
Has this method held up ?
Thanks for watching, So far so good, only been a few weeks since I installed.
how is it riding so far?
All good, since the October 2023 install. Thanks for watching.
Alright adding it to my weekend list to hopefully solve the issue!