The Initiative: Buffy The Vampire Slayer 4x07 Reaction - Dakara
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Buffy The Vampire Slayer 4x07 Reaction - Dakara
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The Harmony and Xander fight is the most vicious fight I’ve ever seen in BTVS 😮 hats off to the actors for pulling it off so brilliantly
They may have even done the fight themselves instead of using stunt doubles.
@@thestoicsoliloquies4041 the choreography was too advanced for the stunt doubles to handle
It's like John Wick vs John Wick.
The Spike/Willow "performance anxiety" scene is one of my favourites of the whole show. Both performances are perfectly pitched, played completely straight without any nods to the audience. Which just makes it even funnier IMO :).
That Spike and Willow scene is one of the best ever put on film. It's so beyond ridiculous given the circumstances and every word just makes it more so.
Spike: Hello, Gorgeous.
Dakara: I kinda wish he'd say that to me... pretend I didn't say that.
Me: Too late! 😉 And I don't blame you. 😄
Harmony and Xander fighting and Spike and Willow talking are comedy highlights of the whole series.
The most laid back reactions to Riley and Walsh's Initiative memberships I've ever seen.
It took me twenty years to realise that when Willow tells Riley that Buffy likes cheese, she meant the ice dances and flowers and romance kind of cheese, not a literal block of cheddar.
😂 I’m howling laughing at this 😂
This episode really is special.
Spike joining the cast, building expectations of his future role, the plot reveals, the comedy.
I like to occasionally remind people that this kind of story telling on network TV was sort of unprecedented. Continuity was extremely loose, and small details like Willow's ongoing struggle with her breakup or Xander & Giles alienation. I still think it remains unchallenged.
James Marsters has SO MUCH charisma. To take a minor villain meant to be killed off after a few episodes and become an immediate audience favourite... He earned that. I will argue that Spike's "problematic" dialogue has aged precisely as it should. He's evil. He's not SUPPOSED to be righteous. If you are comfortable with EVERFYTHING he says... there's probably something wrong with you :P
And it makes the character's intelligence and observational skills shine all the more when he tells the truth. When he says something inarguable, but subverts it for his own agenda. Much like the Mayor, his virtues make him a MUCH better villain.
Finally a worthy opponent for Xander. Their fight was brutal. 🔥🔥
I almost feel sorry that Spike didn't bite Willow. He tried so hard and now he is sad😄 But he was able to boost her self esteem. So he is a good fellow.
Your face lit up when you were talking about this scene at the end. Comparing to other things. That's how good it was. Just a minor scene that turned out to be one of the best in the whole show.
I don't. He's evil.
"A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend" words to live by (and I have!)
I always forget that Spike and Willow scene is in this episode, so it cracks me up again and again, every time. "Don't patronize me!" 😆🤣
I think the point of Riley saying "peculiar" is that if it were someone he didn't like, he'd say she's weird. Choice of words is always telling ;)
And the fact that he was continuing to pay enough attention to keep calling her pecular. Rather than saying a simple "She's weird" and dismissing her. He kept harping on the pecular over and over again. Weird is dismissive and "pecular" is intriging.
The Legend Himself 🤘 Spike! My favorite person in this whole thing honestly 😂 Love it, Also crazy thing James Marsters told me that moment Spike jumps out that window in the dorm room (Steve Stunt Spike) James did hes own 99% but Thankfully steve did it He had to jump 2 story's up in a that building and land on some paper Bush's!..All for the sake of art Respect 🙏 Great reaction Dakara and remember always love The best Vampire 😂🤘
Xander vs. Harmony. ARE YOU READY TO FUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE! Greatest fight scene ever.
OMG YES!!!! Xander Vs Harmony!!! The GREATEST Buffyverse battle EVER!
Spike and Willow being supportive and understanding of each other was hilarious and touching at the same time. A perfect example of how the writers consistently wrongfoot the characters while respecting them.
Spike
Hi love you reactions caught up on your Buffy if you like sci fi a show by Jim Henson is called Farscape is is the only show that that I know like Buffy and supernatural that has the awesome character growth and story progression
My favourite show. I think Aeryn and Buffy would be friends.
Agree, Farscape is terrific fun with characters to love!
Although short, the Spike and Willow scene is fucking iconic, in my book. It’s just too good! 🤣 This scene throws me back to the episode where he had kidnapped her, so that she could perform a love spell on Drusilla. They definitely have an interesting dynamic.
Oh, and the Xander and Willow scene gave me a good chuckle too.
The only time you ever hear his full name 6:05
7:45 I think that Rileys friends knew he liked Buffy before he himself did and the crude talk was to illicit a reaction.
The fight between Buffy and the Initiative soldiers is one of my favorites in the show. Buffy's strategy of firing the flare to blind them while they're wearing night vision goggles is one of her most brilliant tactical maneuvers. I can't really explain why but I've always been fascinated by the idea that even though Buffy usually fights monsters and demons, she can also skillfully take out an entire team of what are essentially highly trained Navy seals. It really illustrates just how good she is on a human level that is easier to understand, compared to fictional monsters with vague power levels.
11:48 The song playing is from 2x04, the very first appearance of Oz.
Great reaction to a fun ep that like you mentioned gave us some exposition on Riley, Spike, and the mysterious commandos..... and the scene between Spike and Willow was just so well written and executed, and then there's the Harmony/Xander "fight" (lol) comedy goodness..... great stuff as always, D. the second CTU for you today and like always, keep em coming!
4:40 huh, I get the cabin in the woods reference.
"You hurt Buffy, I'll beat you to death with a shovel... a vague disclaimer is nobody's friend." Lol! Love Willow, always.
Xander and Harmony's slap fight cracks me up every time.
“What happened?” Re Willow/Spike combo - Simple. You were JossWhedoned 😂
"For someone who teaches human behaviour, you might try showing some" is such a good burn.
In the beginning, guys don't talk like that. There are areas in the United States, where Christian values require a guy to court a woman. Including chaperoned dates and talking to her pastor and parents.
That moment when it clicks what the "performance issues" scene is about... XD
Potential of a new relationship will always trigger...
8:00 Well guys are diffrent that way then I guess. Cause a guy saying a girl is odd is a dead give away it means he has thought enough about her to have that opinion.
14:25 All girls like the bad boys.
Every character seems to have a secret back story to them
BEST optioning comment.
There is a bit of a plot hole in this episode, since Spike violently hurt several of the Initiative members during his escape. My theory is that the chip had to be activated or calibrated by his feeding instinct, to keep him from attacking anyone he sees as food, rather than just an obstacle in his way. Since he didn't drink the bag of blood in his cell, this didn't happen until he tried to feed on Willow.
Huh, I never thought about it. Either by the feeding instinct or they activated it after he escaped. It's possible they were coming to take Spike to activate the chip and test it when he escaped, so they activated it after he escaped, and that's why Riley reported on it after they got back.
The thing that is "wrong" with Riley: he's a grad student going after a freshman who is in the class he TA'S which means he reads her work and GRADES HER PAPERS.
Hey, at least she’s an adult at this point, unlike when Angel (a 240 year old vampire who was already a 25 year old man when he was turned) declared that his ‘one true love’ was a 16 year old girl… You know, in retrospect, there were so many signs that Joss Whedon was a creep. 😬
The Initiative contains some brilliant comedy moments, from when Spike says could be 'cosmetic company' in answer to the lab rats reference. Then we also have the greatest fight in The Buffyverse, with Xander and Harmony bitch slapping and sissy kicking in slow motion, a homage to the Kung Fu series of the 1970s. We then have Spike in Willow's room, and the analogy to erectile disfunction, Willow says 'doesn't this happen to every vampire', and then Willow saying it must be me, and Spike saying he would bite her in a heartbeat, all this achingly funny. We now know about Riley and Prof Walsh, and their activity with Initiative in what is like some kind of Bond Film complex. Riley is almost as awkward as Angel when it comes to chatting up women, but we can see how much he likes her when laying out Parker. An important episode the S4 as a whole.
Great shirt! :)
Spike is simply the best!
I don’t think that Riley being in the Initiative means something is wrong with him. It’s like saying something is wrong with Buffy because she’s a slayer. He’s still a good guy from what we’ve seen. He’s a demon hunter just like Buffy except she’s the chosen one with super powers and if we are asking if Riley will tell Buffy the truth about what he does she has to tell him too. It goes both ways. Not my favorite episode but has some really important things in it.
Yes guys do talk like that, it's usually called locker room. It's no different from when you women get together and talk about men, don't lie and say you never done that with your girl-friends
"Oh, im just a friend of Xanders..."
That's 4 episodes from now.
Buffy is pretty mattressable. There's nothing wrong with complimenting her or saying she's hot. Why would you be offended by that? Everything Forest said in that first scene, I agree with.
It's incredibly crude and reductive.
@@tehcoolemu It's how guys talk. Get over it.
@@davidmeadows5627 Don't speak for all guys. I'm a (straight) guy, and I don't talk like that.
Anyway, you asked what was offensive, and I answered. The fact that many people say it isn't really an argument. There are plenty of offensive things that are popular.
@@davidmeadows5627 Would you go up to a girl you didn't know and tell her that you think she is "matressable"?
If you're talking about a woman with your guy friends in terms that you'd never repeat to her face...then don't be surprised if women feel uncomfortable when they overhear it. There's a reason you wouldn't tell her this to her face (unless you knew for a fact that she didn't mind being called "fuckable.") It'd be somewhat understandable (though still uncomfortable) if they were fifteen, but they're in their twenties. And if (as Forrest did) you talk about all women in terms of whether or not you'd fuck them, that's a red flag. If that's how you regularly talk about women with your guy friends, maybe you should examine how you talk about women with your guy friends.
@@davidmeadows5627You know that scene in Earshot where Buffy hears a male student thinking "Buffy's so beautiful," and she's flattered, so she stops to get more telepathic compliments, but then the guy thinks that he'd like to shove her up against the locker and fuck her right there, and she gets uncomfortable and walks off?
It's like that, except that random guy didn't know Buffy could read his thoughts, so he didn't really do anything wrong. Phrasing matters. There's a line where it stops being innocent, maybe even flattering, and gets gross.