"The Initiative" (4x7) | *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* Reaction
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- I hope you enjoy my reaction to Season Four, Episode Seven of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer': "The Initiative".
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I really dont understand why the best fighting scene of the show is not on the season finale. I was on the edge of my seat with Xander Vs Harmony. Felt like the culmination of all the storylines from seasons before
here here
Hear, hear! It is the best fight scene ever.
Slap-bet! Oh wait, that will involve Alyson Hannigan and friends, years later. (HIMYM)
Remember that the seventh episodes of Buffy’s seasons are generally regarded as being standouts and this is why
Spike being charming and horrible is a pretty good mirror to the network loving him and Joss hating him. Network: "Give James more intimate scenes!" Joss: *hostilely complies*
yeah, didn't James Marsters disclose that some of that hostility included JW pushing him up against a wall and shouting at him?
I can see both sides of that, people were never supposed to root for him
@@OldManFerdiad I don't know if James said that but that kind of story is very common amongst a lot of people that have worked with Joss Whedon. The guy is definitely a grade A asshole.
The whole ED conversation between Spike and Willow is, to me, some of the funniest writing in TV history.
Do u mean SA?
@@toastttttyy It's not SA. He's trying to feed off of her, not do her.
@@plumdutchessit’s not an eating disorder either. The joke is that they’re acting like it is SA. Why are u so mad about it?
@@toastttttyyi think they were saying ED as “erectile dysfunction” and not eating disorder, that’s prob where the confusion was, both talking ab something different without realizing haha (:
@@coreyissus ohhhh I was so confused Ty 😭
Riley & co were blinded by the flare Buffy shot because they were wearing those thermal goggles, plus the smoke. So he didn't see her.
Exactly. His vision was probably covered by dark spots from where the bright phosphorus glare was on the screens. That’s why they had to rip the goggles off when the flare went off.
@@zemoxian it's also the hd remaster that made the image of Buffy much clearer than it was supposed to be so we se here in almost daylight while in the SD original it was dark and blurry.
But Spike did see Buffy fighting the Initiative guys so he now knows she's not involved with that group.
@@Henrik_HolstI’ve never been more grateful for my Buffy/Angel DVD collection. 480, beautiful 4:3, no boom mikes, washed-out shots, and plastic skin.
@@Henrik_Holst
That remaster thing was crazy. 🤢
James Marsters would have chemistry with a brick wall. No matter with whom he interacts, it just klicks. He should have had a much bigger career after this show, but he made his adopted niece his priority over Hollywood. He is amazing!
He narrates audiobooks! Did the whole Dresden Files series which is literally the only reason I can stand Harry Dresden - because James Marsters oozes charisma.
If you've never seen his appearances in Torchwood and Warehouse 13 (as a sexy time agent and an immortal con artist respectively), they're worth seeing.
@@kristinakirkland194 I have watched both, have you seen the Supernatural episode with him and Charisma Carpenter?
The evolution of Giles this season definitely make sense : he lost his job and he feels like Buffy and the gang doesn't need him as much anymore. It's a great and natural way to make Buffy grow as a young adult as well
I completely agree. The character arcs in this show for every character is phenomenally done. Trust the writers. They know what they're doing.
Yup, Xander is not the only one adjusting to life after high school. Giles is finding his way too.
This is the introduction of what Lani Diane Rich terms "Sweater Giles." He's so adrift without his tweed!
🎉😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Giles 😅is Blade ffs and The One movie Jesus Christ and Moses have had the most incredible scenes ever and the movie has a really special scene in which you get the same kind away and you have the best moments in every episode with them being so close together that they have the best parts in a movie where you have the same story in a very special way that they both had to share the whole movie with the audience
❤I’m on your sides too okay I need this for mercy and all of us signing out soon enough as Satan has been on my mind and I’m trying not being a little more stressed but it’s been really nice and I’m just so excited for this weekend so excited about this is my birthday so I love this weekend so I love the fact you know that you know I will have to do something special to make this special and special to me because I’m really happy with it and I’m really proud and happy with myself because it’s really good to have you in it I really want you and I’m so I really love it and I’m really excited for this and I’m so happy for me and I’m just really happy for me and you guys to see each other’s life and that’s really important and it’s been really important for us all right love to hear about your birthday I really appreciate that don’t want to be a statue either!!!!!!!! Satan snaked too long and I am hurting myself in the therapist’s birthday and I’m so happy that you’re the one who cares for me to see the other day and I’m really happy to be happy for me to get some good health care for me to see that you have an amazing life is so happy 😢😂🎉😢😊
In case you didn't recognize the vampire warning Spike not to drink the packet of blood, he was from the season's first episode. He got away, but then got zapped by the 'camo guys.'
I don't read Giles as being lazy in the current storyline. On the contrary, it feels to me like he really, really wants to be busy and is frustrated that he's got less to do, as Buffy grows to be more independent and he no longer has his official Watcher position.
And I imagine going from seeing Buffy and the other kids multiple times daily in the school to maybe once every few days is hard. Season One Giles could never have imagined how lonely his life would be without all that chatter.
It's also only been a year and a half since Jenny's death, and I always wondered how much more that weighed on him once the kids weren't around. Outside of them, who does he have? Ethan??
Man, the Buffy/Cass combo just make me happy. Every time I see one of these videos pop up, my day gets better. Don't change anything, Cass!
And Riley didn't see Buffy in the dorm at the end, you just happen to see the crappy HD remaster where they forgot to adjust the lighting so Buffy was clearly visible while she wasn't supposed to.
This episode is SO FUN for reactions. So many reveals. The 'here's a sweet himbo, no wait, he's the commando we've been seeing around campus' switcharound is done so well. And the park scene where the audience is aware of both of their secret identities but neither of them know and both are trying to shoo the other away is so Shakespearean. Peak miscommunication humour.
In the highschool seasons, Giles is the guy who knows everything and you can count on to save the day. His presence is very reassuring and comforting. It think its a parallel to childhood (or teenagehood) where you feel adults simply have it all figured out.
Then Buffy gets into adulthood and Giles 'perfectedness' shattered.
Spike and Willow being comforting and understanding to each other is the most weirdly heartwarming thing I've ever seen.
It was cut from the reaction but this is where Spike remembers Willow wearing a fuzzy pink sweater, right? Gotta love a guy who pays attention to a woman's outfits! Truly a romantic trapped in a vampire body... 😂
The bit with the yogurt, was the fact that Buffy used her Slayer strength and ended up breaking the machine.
When I was going through grad school for clinical psych, I was also working for the dept as a TA. Toward the end of the spring semester, the head of the clinical program came out of her office to get one of the other professors 'for some help'. Turns out she had an undergrad student that was in tears because the prof had just told her she didn't score high enough on her final to pass her class, and as such was not going to be able to graduate. So here you had a PhD in psych, head of the department... and should KNOW this conversation with her student was not likely going to go well... and she couldn't handle the situation herself.
Whenever I watch the scene with Buffy lecturing Walsh about how she treated Willow, it always brings that back to me.
Rupert "Ripper" Giles has been cast adrift with the demolition of Sunnydale High School and its library. Like Buffy, he is going through a transition in his character's evolution.
the buffy and spike comparison to perry and doof is sending me
“They wouldn’t just change the credits for one episode”
*war flashbacks*
(spoilers under rot13 just to be safe)
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Rilley understands nobody can "talk" to Parker because of his narcissistic entitlement, so Riley takes the direct route. Also, when you combine Riley's reaction to Parker, with his apparent "dismissiveness" of Buffy, his true feelings shine through.
as someone who's seen the show a bunch of times, I LOVE your predictions, like it's just natural when watching tv, and people were definitely trying to predict plots when the show was first coming out
Cass: Why does he think she's so weird?
Me: She is f'n weird
Spoiler
Season 7 : AMANDA - Do people ever think you're weird? BUFFY - Um, (flutters eyelashes, shrugs) I guess. Sure, in a charming, endearing, lovable... Yeah.
Ha! Yeah, I think it's easy by this point in the series to forget how bizarre Buffy must seem to outsiders. Disappearing and then showing up covered in dirt or grass stains, talking about demons and vampires, changing plans at the last minute or flaking completely... Plus all the weapons. Even the normals in the high school days knew Sunnydale was weird and haunted, but poor Riley is from IOWA. The spookiest thing they have there is really big gourds.
@@kristinakirkland194 and that was exactly my point. We as the audience follow pretty much every step she takes. We know all her little quirks and the reasons behind them. We know the stuff she's going thru and are waiting for her friends to catch up with us. So yea, to ppl that don't know any better she would come off as weird
I felt torn about what was my favourite part (between Harmony and Xander fighting vs. Spike's "not getting it up analogy), but now it is Harmony complaining about men always leaving, followed by Xander having left her.
Riley didn't recognise Buffy. The army guys were wearing night vision goggles so the flare temporarily blinded them, that combined with the fire extinguisher mist and the lights being out she was just a blurry figure.
I can't remember if it comes up, but I think the fact that Spike has been seen with a blonde vampire might have added to the confusion about who was helping him. Or, at least, it would have been a good misdirect.
@@PaperbackWizard I don't think that's the case, but I may be wrong?
So many of Cass's comments during this episode has me doing that side eye meme in real life
LOL! Yes!
Spike is always trying to take over the Tri-State Area
I didn't think about it before... but you're right. They likely wouldn't change the opening credits for one episode. Good call.
Yeah, that would be a strange thing to do.
Giles’ midlife crisis is definitely A Thing.
“A vague disclaimer is nobody’s friend” -W. Rosenberg
I love Mercedes McNab so much! She is so good as Harmony! I know I should hate Harmony for how she was in highschool but she is so much fun as a bimbo vampire!
I agree!She's much better as a vampire than she was as a human. Ironically.
@@Nicamon Absolutely. Harmony is living her best life as a vampire and it's beautiful. I love the arc she gets.
I love how you caught on right away about the connection between Spike not being able to bite and erectile dysfunction. That was the intention, as far as I can tell.
Spike and Willow scene deserves to be in the top 10 of all scenes in this show. If you want to show it to people who haven't seen the series what kind of show it is you can easily pick this. And they will be interested. And to be honest, I don't really care about most of other things that happen in this ep, most of them look like a filler to me. Including scenes with the actual leading character. That's how good this one is. Spike/Marsters is a natural scene stealer.
That's also why you shouldn't blame yourself or smth when you say that you are messed up when it comes to Spike. Because he is good, girl, that's why😄 people love him to a reason.
Also I know that when they returned Spike because he was fan favorite SMG said that she knew that and called herself 'the president of his fan club'.
The Initiative... yea, the name of the secret government agency hunting demons and vampires... but also Riley is struggling to take the initiative to ask out Buffy. And in one of my favorite double entendres *ever*, Spike struggles to "take the initiative" in his attack on Willow.
If people communicated there would be no drama in fiction.
Someone might already have mentioned this, but the reason that the assault team, including Reilly could not see Buffy is that she fired the flare gun in the smoke while they had their night vision gear on, and they were literally temporarily "blinded by the light."
Forget The Initiative exposition and Riley and Professor Walsh being a part of it. This is the episode we get the Xander vs Harmony slow motion fight.
I think vampires run at room temperature.
Spike: murders people left and right.
Viewers: ohhhh, he's so lovely.
Riley: risks his life to remove demons off the streat.
Viewers: I don't think I can trust him anymore.
I think it's more the "shady government agency" aspect, and the experimenting on humanoid creatures.
(Also, Spike, for all his faults, never pretends to be anything more or less than he is. He's cheerfully, frankly a monster.)
When Buffy fired the flare gun, the Commandos were all still wearing their night vision googles and the intense light from the flare blinded them. They eyes where still adjusting to the light when they left the hallway so they couldn't see clearly. Riley did not recognize Buffy and Buffy didn't recognize Riley's voice. The smoke came from the fire extinguisher Spike was holding.
Spike absolutely WANTS to kill people. He just can't act on it without extreme pain. I love the comparison of erectile dysfunction and vampires being unable to feed. So funny. Wearing night vision gear and being suddenly exposed to bright light- like from a flare gun- makes you nearly blind for several seconds. Your vision is terrible for a few minutes after that too. Think of turning on a bunch of bright lights when you've been in the pitch-black for a long time (i.e. when you've been sleeping and you go to the bathroom at night), only a billion times worse.
Not "Miss Walsh," but "Doctor Walsh." Remember when the invisible girl from Sunnydale High was conscripted into government service?
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The Initiative contains some brilliant comedy moments, from when Spike says could be 'cosmetic company' in answer to the lab rats reference. Then we also have the greatest fight in The Buffyverse, with Xander and Harmony bitch slapping and sissy kicking in slow motion, a homage to the Kung Fu series of the 1970s. We then have Spike in Willow's room, and the analogy to erectile disfunction, Willow says 'doesn't this happen to every vampire', and then Willow saying it must be me, and Spike saying he would bite her in a heartbeat, all this achingly funny. We now know about Riley and Prof Walsh, and their activity with The Initiative in what is like some kind of Bond Film complex. Riley is almost as awkward as Angel when it comes to chatting up women, but we can see how much he likes her when laying out Parker. An important episode the S4 as a whole.
I love when you pause the show and explain your thoughts. It’s fun seeing you get so excited!! So keep it up 😊
No need to apologize about making predictions. It's part of what makes watching clever shows fun.
Giles must have got one heck of a severence package when the school blew up. He's practically retired.
He's probably got decent savings from his time with the Council. Rent in Sunnydale cannot be expensive, and his car is ancient. Other than tea and dry cleaning for the tweed, his lifestyle couldn't be that pricey.
It's confirmed in a later episode that he did not get a severance package.
I don't know anyone who would dislike Parker being punched in the face. We probably should have a Buffy Special: the whole episode of Parker being punched in the face.
It's a fitting end to his saga. Yes, Cass, you can rest assured that this is the *last* time we see Parker Abrams.
Yeah, Riley's should only be the first fist in a loooong line. Xander gets to punch him twice - once for Oz. (We'd give it to Willow but she might just hex him into next week instead.)
😂Parker is a joke fools he is a good Guy but aliens take him over and will be explained through Angels 🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ ❤I love him so much but he’s not my cup winner and he’s just another idiot lol but he’s not my hero
This is it Cass.
All your marvel tropes, dreams and fantasies come true.
This is where Joss Whedon perfected all the stuff that is prolific in superhero entertainment today.
Original high quality ingredients here.
20:40. Yes, it's a lot.
Take a deep breath and enjoy.
episode 7s in Buffy is always a major episode
Yuuup, and usually an emotional whump episode to boot.
Season 1 - Angel
Season 2 - Lie to Me
Season 3 - Revelations
Season 4 - The Initiative
I think your brain exploded with the Riley reveal. 🤣
36:37 Yeah. They definitely would have wanted to capture Oz. That’s a really good point.
I love Spike's subtle nod to Resident Evil...
Can you imagine if Parker had tried his shit with Cordy?
Oh man, imagine how beautiful that verbal flaying would have been. 🥲
I think Cordy would fall for his schitck same as Buffy. Despite the fact that Cordy's verbal sparring is unmatched.
In her case he wouldn't have had to work so hard, just roll up to her in a convertible.
Given they later described Buffy as "big" I'd say it's fairly obvious that the combination of flare gun and night vision goggles left them unable to even make out shapes much less recognize anyone.
Plus - claiming they were beat by someone "big" is the only way their fragile egos can accept that they were beat 🤷
@@reneeg9406 Thats a bit of a leap, I mean , Buffy is super strong, if you get hit by someone that strong, and you cannot see them, you are gonna assume they are pretty big, rather than a 5'2, 98lb blonde with supernatural powers
That wasn't it. It was a typical macho guy thing, with the not wanting to admit they were beaten by someone tiny. It's a classic joke.
@@Bodanki No, Renee is 100% correct and you are not. It's not "a leap". It's been done many times before. This is a classic joke. The big macho dudes are embarrassed they were beaten by someone tiny.
@@plumdutchessthey didn't see who attacked them due to the flare blinding them so they guessed based on the strength.
As for what the Initiative is doing to the supernatural creatures they capture, think of the book/movie "A Clockwork Orange."
Hi. Been watching your YT vids for awhile, love your reactions, the Spike/Buffy:Doof/Perry analogy is SO frickin' amusing. :) LOVE LOVE LOVED it.
I wanted to talk about your pausing/prediction concerns. I personally don't find it very concerning overall, as your predictions are a GREAT part of the process: both accurate and inaccurate, although of course the inaccurate ones are a lot more fun to play with. Hearing them is the core of what's fun in watching reaction videos: getting as close as possible to reliving the experience for the first time.
That said, the OTHER core is the emotional responses: the gasps, like in 25:48 for example. For that reason I wonder if perhaps your thoughts could wait just a minute or so, until the end of the scene, before pausing, because I could see the emotional reaction to the Professor Walsh reveal was about to get big before you got "distracted" via the pause. It prevented you from living in the moment.
If you're the type of person that just NEEDS to let thoughts out immediately, it's not a big deal, as it is enjoyable either way. I only bring it up as a sort of "middle road" between not pausing at all, which I personally find less fun, versus pausing a TON, which in the worst-case can cause the comedic/dramatic rhythm of a scene to get thrown off.
5:49 No, no. They would NEVER do that.
I always took Willow saying, “She likes cheese” to mean cheesy stuff like long walks, romantic chats etc - all that sappy stuff she did with Angel. But Riley takes it literally, like Cass did so I’ve never really known if I was right or not!
Best Buffy reactor on YT! Love all the reactions and analysis.
Willow and Buffy are continuing with a clear path through college.
Xander and Giles have no path
Your facial expressions during the Riley-Walsh-Initiative reveal is a whole mood.
Oh it’s about to get real!!!❤❤ can’t wait for your upcoming reactions
been waiting for this one!!
Just wanted to say, I really enjoy all your predictions, especially the nonstop theorizing on how spike has to become a part of the gang!
I liked all your thoughts on the initiative too. You instantly got all the moral conflicts that might arise and be interesting story points - as well as at least one possibility I’d never ever heard or thought of before! 👍💕
She really, really, really wants Spike on side. 😂
This is the show that may give you what you ask for, but not in a way you expect. Spike getting chipped, man, that's just rude...
The GIles thing? It's fun - in the first three seasons - especially season 1 and 2 - Giles is portrayed as a very stereotypical 'Englishman' - there's even a shot of his home showing he has a wind-up gramophone instead of a hifi. He's portrayed as so old-fashioned it's practically ludicrous - this is supposed to be someone who was teenager in the 70s remember. From this season though - he's very much changed over to being a normal person - he's a got a TV, a record collection that Oz envies and has stopped wearing three-piece suits made out of tweed. I for one welcome the change in the writing. And the changing of the situation of employeed watcher to unemployed lay-about is fine - perhaps fascilitated this change in the character.
Love all of your reactions, Cass. Buffy and otherwise. You are such a pleasant, delightful personality, outstanding reviewer, and overall lovely, wholesome young woman.♥
6:47 I don't think Giles has been lazy so much as lost. He's lost his purpose and doesn't know enough about how to find a new one to work up the motivation to pursue it. I think his passivity is him hoping that a new purpose -- or, better yet, in his opinion, the old one -- will come looking for him instead of the other way around.
Riley didn't see Buffy and Buffy didn't recognize Riley. He called them off because he knew the smoke was clearing and they are not supposed to be seen
inhuman and inhumane are two pretty different things lol
This episode is such a banger! The Willow and spike scene is just hilarious and Xander-v-harmony is a classic.
Mkay, you got a solid laugh out of me for the 'cheese point' comment. 😆
Bet you're glad to have Parker back for Riley to deck him? I think most people were happy with Giles' "gentleman of leisure" phase, he was a father who didn't know what to do with himself once his children grew beyond him.
I wonder what Giles would have done if the high school hadn't blown up? Would he still work there with no Buffy there?
Your reactions and enthusiasm is always appreciated and fun. Some context of the times might help with The Initiative and feelings towards the project. In the 90s and with the fall of the Communist regimes in Russia and Eastern European Countries, secret files and projects were discovered. The KGB(and aligned intelligence services) and military had been conducting many experiments, programs, and investigations into the paranormal and potential existence of the supernatural. Their goal was to see if it existed and how it could be used for military purposes. Also over the time from the late 70’s until this show, American agencies ( CIA and Military Intelligence) would be discovered as also doing the same. One of the most famous was how The Army would experiment with LSD on soldiers to see if they could unlock powers of the brain. These public disclosures plus conspiracy theorists were the foundation of The X Files having believably plots and stories. Many of the real life intelligence agencies used colleges, students, and experts for their research. So having The Initiative on a college located near The Hellmouth does not seem far fetched.
In Season 3 we know the police, a government agency, knows about the supernatural and that Snyder was brought in to be principal to maintain order and cover up supernatural events. Besides the Mayor( who we know was supernatural) his assistant Mayor was aware as well as some of the Mayors security. Now go back in your memory to Season 1, Episode 11 and the invisible girl. Sunnydale High was under surveillance and after Buffy subdues the Invisible Girl, 2 government agents take the girl away The last scene was the girl with other invisibles in class. The class was about how to assassinate and be a government killer. So ask yourself what is the purpose of The Initiative? You are thinking of Riley and his friends as students because of their age. Do you know the age of most American foot soldiers? They are mostly young men 18- 22.
You wonder about Giles and what is he doing. You have reacted to one of the most important themes of the season. Time and that no matter what we do, time advances and life will change. The last image of Season 3 was of Buffy and the Scoobys walking off together. Look at 7 episodes into the new year . Cordelia and Oz are gone. The library was blown up and now there is no meeting place. High school is over and Xander has no structured reason to interact with Buffy or Willow and Giles is aimless, drinking too much, and being Hugh Hefner. The show is at its heart about the journey for Buffy to become a strong independent , mature emotionally, and fully capable woman. High school seemed difficult to navigate but college represents life. Buffy is making mistakes but she learns and grows. Xander is in his basement looking for the purpose he found with Buffy.Finally we have Willow and she has her own discoveries and labors before her. Buffy can stake a vampire or kill a demon but time and aging can not be killed or stopped
Rewatching here after watching on Patreon! (Also, this episode made me realize you've already watched Stranger Things so you can't react to it, lolol. I love that show too!)
Have watched is an understatement, she’s seen it many times hahah, so s5 will be a good time and that will certainly be filmed amongst other stuff 👀
Spike still wants to hurt others, it just causes him pain if he does.
Well, obviously someone being added to the main credits means they're staying on the show! That's almost like plot armour ;) However, I disagree about liking Spike because he's not killing people anymore, you should keep in mind he still wants to.
Riley is OK. And so far, he's already saved Willow's life and punched Parker. I can't complain.
I don't remember what I thought of Giles in this season, but I do think it's OK for him to have some free time. It's probably the first time in decades, and he deserves some rest =)
Did the HD version show her face all blurry while he squinted at her? I know it often omits post processing effects that were in the original.
the HD version cleared the picture and was also almost at daylight, it completely ruined the scene (as usual)
"Have we not grown past violence when it comes to emotions?" This is Buffy. Nobody here has. Haha.
Also, if you think punching someone for being a jerk is a trope, then all human behavior must be a trope. Lol.
No spoilers, but from things you've said on this video, you are going to love the next couple of episodes ❤
Spike had the chip in his head when he escaped from the cell and grabbed the lab guy yet nothing happened. Technically the chip should have activated.
I think it's that he didn't intend to kill there. Just escape.
spike i fee sorry for him a little but u would u trust walking through a graveyard if u knew he was there. Cant wait for the next angel buffy crossover
No one grows past violence. Nor should we want to.
Great reaction!
Punching Parker is always acceptable. 9 times out of 10 if you notice something that doesn't make sense with the visual effects it's because of the terrible HD remaster. Love seeing your excitement for these episodes.
Are they doing anything worse?
First time I really thought about this more in depth. Thinking back to the history of Psychology and research experiments. A lot of research done even just 30 years ago by today's standards are considered highly unethical. In the past prisioners could bargin the length of their sentencing by "volunteering" in these experiments which is similar to what the Initiative is doing in a sense. So we might argue that psychological torcher is worse then Buffy's quick and easy method.
Idk Cass, have you watched/read A Clockwork Orange?
The Initiative Guys, None of them saw Buffy. What you saw was NOT what they saw. Nice Post.
Hey Cass I’ve been a viewer for a while and I love your content!! This is totally not about this video but I was wondering if you could possibly do Harry styles album reactions if you haven’t listened already I think they are amazing albums and totally in your area of expertise!! Love you and stay safe 💗💗
Giles isn't lazy. He is aimless and depressed.
I think seeing Giles like this is fun for his character because how he was all along. Though, watching the season the first time I was a bit sad about it. But it is in theme with the season, everyone is going through something new they have to adjust to.
Giles mid life crisis 😂😂😂
SPOILER dont read until end of season.
I think that the original intention for this season was for Prof Walsh to try to replicate the slayer, that's why the end episode with the first slayer is the way it is. You will also notice that Adam only gets introduced in the same episode where Walsh dies. He's clearly a replacement big bad for when the actress who plays Walsh wants out (Because she was given a bigger role in something else).
this episode untill the ten episode are 10/10 episodes
hey, uhm. theres some podcast in the Buffy S4 playlist.. ?
Let her know a few days ago, fixed now haha, thanks for the heads up (:
It is interesting how the show handled Faith killing someone on accident in season 3 but in this season, Oz killing someone is swept under the rug and not dealt with.
I think deputy mayor vs killer werewolf is a bit different in terms of victims. Just like the other humans that have died on the show like the swim coach and zoo keeper that we don't exactly address in the same light. The deputy mayor was a innocent bystandard at the time of his death while the others were actively conducting harm. Also Oz is almost more similar to Angel in a sense of not entirely human himself. We could say the same about Faith but the slight difference there is the mantle of power The Slayer holds. Idk about you, but I think it's pretty important to vet and be sure a person in high position of power is in their right mind. Faith was not exactly in her right mind or at least not fit for leadership. Instead, she was running away and avoiding responsibility. Not a quality most people want in someone weilding a position of power.
That is a fair point and thank you for the reply. I had forgotten about the dead zookeeper, and I can see how the gang might have allowed for wiggle room when the person dying was up to bad things.
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I was pretty sympathetic toward Giles..he just seems lost at the moment
Spike wants to kill people, he just can't do it
Yall does anyone know if aka lizzy grant reaction is coming to UA-cam?
Nope! Post-released albums, she’s doing monthly bonus Lana Patreon exclusive content. Last month was aka lizzy grant, this month we’ll see what the poll says, but that will be Patreon only so she can focus on new or other artists she loves and to cater to her entire audience now that she’s done one artist’s discography (:
@@coreyissus thank you for letting me know!
Reactors always have a a lot to chew on with this one :D
I don't think Spike believes that Buffy is behind the government or getting caught. HIs fixation with her just naturally leads to him blaming her for anything bad that happens which dates back all the way to season 2 "Sunnydale is cursed for us Pet, the Slayer and her friends see to that." Or something. So the other vampire was running from her, so in a bad guy's mind, that makes getting caught her fault. Spike will look for any excuse to blame her for anything. It's a way to remove accountability or admit fault of any kind.
As far as Giles, I think you're the onky reactor I've seen to get so worked up about Giles. I think a lot of us appreciate seeing him in this environment/era. It's good for his psychological flexibility, lol.
As for Riley, this might be his best episode, but he still finds a way to annoy me. The traditional gender role thing with him needing to protect her this episode.
❤❤Buffy is my as Angel my Dayghter and an Angel too yous don’t understand Peter and Parker and Soike have been the most loyal to each others since they both got together for me to have fun together in my heart is broken for them both have been through so many things I can’t wait for them both have been so happy and so much fun together ❤❤Trsoect me as Angel or Else
Not being able to hurt people without pain and not *wanting* to hurt people are two very different things. Yeah, Marsters is incredibly charming as Spike and forgetting that the character is in fact a serial killer that has abused, assaulted and murdered people is a common thing in the fandom. To the point when the show originally aired some fans sent hate mail to the writers when they came out with episodes that had Spike do anything to remind us he's not just a fun charming guy.
He's not a serial killer, he's a soulless demon in a human body. Very different. William was a lovely person until the demon got him.
@@plumdutchessHe's serially murdered countless people.. that's a serial killer. Not being human doesn't change the definition of murder.