Pokemon has possibly had a worse jump to 3d than Sonic The Hedgehog lol, the difference between Unova and Kalos is night and day. It's annoying because the 2d games were probably way easier to work with the tight deadline let alone just looking more aesthetically pleasing and lively.
@user-fq6tz3yv9u sm/usum was unironically the peak of 3d pokemom even if it was still way behind the 2d. It actually had effort put into it even if it felt quite misguided at times, all the pokemon were actually bothered to be programmed into the game, it was a good foundation and swsh shit all over it.
@@alessandrolira4035 idk how sun and moon could be the peak of 3D Pokémon when the game before it had much more content. Yeah s/m had effort put into it and the switch Pokémon games don’t even come close to it, but I don’t believe it’s the peak of 3D Pokémon lol. Yea, it had all the Pokémon “programmed” into it, although they just reused the models and animations from the previous game (didn’t bother me too much but still). Using this logic X and Y would be seen as peak 3D pokemon as the devs had to create all the pokemon (and new ones) in 3D from scratch.
Another thing to consider is that those older games didn’t LOOK outdated when they came out, in fact, most pushed the boundaries of what was possible at the time and were beautiful to behold for the gamer. The Pokémon games have never been accused of pushing the boundaries of game art design.
I wouldn't say Pokémon ever actually pushed boundaries. There are more visually impressive games on every single platform Pokémon ever came out on. The DS was actually where Pokémon started to fall behind on what was "visually impressive," even if the DS games looked great. (Dragon Quest 9.)
There's one thing I wish people would stop being so forgiving about, the whole idea that games *HAVE* to release because of "anime, merchandising, cards, etc need to line up!" The Pokemon Company reports their financial earnings, and as a private company, they're under zero obligation to do so. Yet, they still come forward & break down how much money they make to let people know how strong the brand is. You know what they specifically say in those reports? Merchandising/licensing doesn't make up a "significant" enough portion of revenue to report, then follow it up by saying "all earnings are from *GAMES ONLY!" So every fiscal report they release only covers the video game sales... and because they don't have to report ANYTHING, it's pretty telling to me what makes up the most significant portion of their income, otherwise they'd lump it all together & say "we made this even LARGER amount of money this year!" That'd be easy & make their numbers even bigger right? Yet they don't... Even if the licensing & merch makes a good chunk of change, it's not worth hampering your primary driver of revenue to accommodate the side things! It'd be like if a Pizza chain who makes 90% of its revenue from pizza swapped out to its dough just to make its bread sticks taste better, even though it makes the pizza taste like ass. Why do that? The games make billions on their own, selling more than most AAA games & all being sold for full price! Even the most high budget AAA games go on sale quite often, but not Pokemon! It's almost always a full $60 for all 15-25 million copies sold. And since they're not investing as much into development as other AAA games get, the return on investment is even greater! So how in the hell can we excuse billion dollar-earning games looking/running like garbage, just because new million dollar licensing products need to come out at the same time? It's nonsensical! Sorry for the rant, it just really bugs me when we all know how much JUST THE GAMES make!
People who give the graphics a pass in favour of gameplay need to understand that Pokemon's gameplay isn't anywhere close to a point where it's refined enough to justify diverting resources. The battles in Scarlet and Violet are SO SLOW it's absurd. It's 2022 and the ampersand (&) is still an innovation that Game Freak has yet to master, because instead of just saying "Pawmi was poisoned and took damage" It's "Pawmi was hit by poison tail" 1, 2, 3, 4, "It's not very effective" 1, 2, 3, 4, "Pawmi was poisoned" 1, 2, 3, 4, "Pawmi was hurt by the poison" 1, 2, 3, 4. Which REALLY adds up across hundreds of battles, especially when you start adding in the same nonsense with stat changes, switches, abilities, and on and on and on.
It's even more awful that Legends Arceus which came out prior, fixed the slow battle issues. Battles in that game don't drag for bullshit and animations play out quickly it's feels much better to play in comparison.
They want you playing the game for longer. And streamers to play longer. Did you see how fast we stopped caring about sword and shield, Why would efficient be the goal?
The point you made about consistency is so true. I don't mind playing PS2 games since the visuals come together properly despite being obviously lower fidelity. In a way modern games with low end graphics end up looking less appealing as a result despite higher level from a technical standpoint than older games.
for real. SNES games still look great after almost 30 years. It's easier to see since a ton of modern games replicate the style, but games like Super Mario World, Super Metroid, and Chrono Trigger still look modern with their art and general design. (i don't know any other SNES games to use as an example, oof).
It's a lot easier to go easy on PS2 games because, you know, they're PS2 games. People don't seem to understand that Pokémon doesn't have that same limitation.
@@Savariable Thing is with most mods even with decades of work and dedication they never and should never be able to surpass a brand new entry to the series that was being modded. Ex: Warband had many great mods and a strong modding community but when Bannerlord came out none of those mods are as good as the new game. This especially shouldn't be the case when its a mod for a completely different game. Official titles should always completely surpass any fanwork and if it doesn't then there is something seriously wrong or the mod team is absolutely exceptional. Unironically if Pokemon made a LeafGreen clone with new graphics, new region and new pokes it would obliterate most if not all fan games and without going over the development time of Violet/Scarlet. 3D is harder and takes longer and is buggier. Their small team and short timescale are suited to the old sprites-based Pokemon games. If they want to keep doing 3d then they either need way way more people or they need more time with still a lot more people.
I feel like with an well experienced team behind it Nintendo switch exclusives can look really good while running well. The Xenoblade Chronicles games always come to mind when this is brought up, not only do they look good, they are suprinsigly well optimized, but I guess Monolith Soft is filled with a bunch of programming wizards so I don't think it's a fair comparison lmao
@@supersodayoda1471 Part of it is that Xenoblade has a consistent style, but the other part is how Xenoblade does *so much more* with the outdated hardware it's given. Same goes for, well, pretty much any game that Nintendo contracted Monolith Soft to help on. (which is most of their 1st party offerings)
'They were ambitious in parts'... Which parts of SV exactly can be considered 'ambitious'? One of the most interesting things I've noticed about Pokémon reviews is that they get compared to other Pokémon games only. That's the only way a game making changes that were industry standard 15 years ago and doing them pretty badly (empty towns, flat and copy paste NPCs, shallow quests etc) can be considered ambitious.
@@DakotaofRaptors POkemon is kind of the only game in town when it comes to monster-collecting RPGs. We used to have a couple others like Monster Rancher, I think? And there WAS that one indie go at it, Tem-Tem, but it sounds like the devs got greedy and tried to stuff microtransactions in it or something. I don't know why nobody else has tried to take a crack at the monster-collecting RPG genre. Pokemon could use some competition.
While I like the content of the video.. I wholeheartedly disagree with the premise. The problem is certainly NOT time.. That project triangle thing says time, cost, quality. Pokémon games fail in two of them! And it's not because they don't have the funds, they just decide not to increase the costs.. so that is WORSE that being lazy! The dates are entirely their choice. Period. And looking at Arceus, this is the norm and what we can expect.. and that is visually! Gameplay has been a flat line and a constant disappointment, so there's also that.
the 3DS games have better graphics then the newer games. Pokemon X/Y, Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, even older games like diamond and pearl. Honestly I wish theyd just bring back the DS's.
Man you are really giving the pokemon company and game freak a lot more leeway than they deserve. Take into account this is THE most profitable franchise in the whole world, if there's any company that can throw money at a problem to solve it, it's them. Also please don't blame the terrible state this game is in on "lack of experience" or "not enough time", they've been doing 3d Pokemon games for a while now, and if they really needed it (which they do) they can hire more people to at least get it polished faster. I'm almost certain game freak and the pokemon company do not care AT ALL about polish or good game development anymore
I think in this particular case, time is a valid excuse. COVID drastically altered the entire globe with the effects still being felt to this day. Lockdown started roughly two years ago, so roughly 67% of the production time was affected in some way. SV was also by FAR the most ambitious title they've done with several new mechanics. Yes, you can spend more money, but keep in mind that it's difficult to bring in new people and expect them to be fully competent and gelled in with the rest of the team immediately, particularly when in person meetings are infrequent at best. If GF didn't care about the series, they wouldn't have attempted to make a fully open world title with branching missions, something that had never been done before in the franchise. Now if the NEXT generation of games comes out and there's been no progress on game performance/visuals, then I'd be more inclined to say GF or Nintendo itself is the issue.
@@henkhenkste6076 no, they really can't when their high powered computers and tech use expensive proprietary softwares, you can't port that shit to most people's at home computers and expect to work.
This is what happens when a game IP makes more money from merchandise than games. I swear, Nintendo needs to really put the pressure on Game Freak, because otherwise you're only going to get buggy broken games. Because Pokemon will sell millions and millions regardless.
I preface this by saying that I'm not a Pokémon fan. I haven't played a new release since X and Y and I was not sold on the experience. I like where you went with the dissusion in regard to consistency, but I think it's much simpler to say that older games, while not as detailed, didn't have nearly as much pop in, lighting defects, or glitched animation. At least I don't remember any of it in games like Mario 64 or even Oblivion. The fact that it's in Scarlet and Violet is not what was intended, therfore it looks bad and lessens the experience. All and all it should not have been allowed to release, schedules be damned. They have enough money to take a hit and work to deliver a quality product. Sword and Shield didn't look good either, and this looks worse. I wouldn't count on things to get better. And you can't really blame the Switch because it plays games like Breath of the Wild, Skyrim, and Doom better than this one. And none of those were made from the ground up for the Switch. This one should have been.
hope they'll use like 50% (the good half) of these assets for the next title and have another banger story line and gameplay features, havent played the game myself (no switch) and watched RT's stream highlights instead, story was a bit too all over the place if you ask me
@@MisterZimbabwe yeah several of them. Also X/Y storyline wasn't great but it certainly was crazy and on on-rails I mean like it randomly introduced an old guy who apparently was immortal and millennia old and had invented an ancient superweapon that could destroy the world and meanwhile I was just like "... wth is even happening anymore is this even still pokemon"
@@meee_5155 yeah, uh, random isn't exactly a good thing. Theirs a difference between a plot twist and random shit. Az was just a bad plot element and even if I do like that portion of the simple story it still doesn't override the fact that it's random without purpose
Funny thing about assets, they have actually been using the same assets for the pokemon (except of course the newer ones that would get new models anyway) since X/Y. Basically, they made extremely high fidelity models for the transition to 3D and have been downscaling them as needed. I will say it is a smart idea, especially since they can just give the models to games not being developed by GF like Go, BD/SP, and any other spin off I can't remember or just don't know about.
I don’t see the problem. GameFreak and their fans have a solid sadomasochist relationship. One scams and the other loves getting scammed, protests, swears they won’t play another game. Then the cicle repeats all over again. I have heard from people who went from “I don’t know. This game’s promos look rough…” to “Holy sh*t this game looks horrible!” to, after playing it for dozens of hours, “Eh… it actually is kinda fun.” It’s all about the journey into self-gaslighting. It’s all about the kink of justifying the scam. None of that gonna change. It’s natural. Shameful and natural ❤
I didn't buy let's go pikachu/eevee, I didn't buy Sword/shield, and I didn't buy scarlet/violet. I don't think I've enjoyed a pokemon game since generation 5. It sucks because I love pokemon, I grew up with it! I just can't support games that are broken on release and more importantly that I don't enjoy. I'll stick with romhacks and spinoffs until GF gets their shit together, if they ever do.
The problem with Gamefreak is their "small indie team" mentality. They can't operate their games with 100 people, especially with their transition to 3D and over 1000 pokemon designs (with even more to come). This method works best with 2D sprites, they need hundreds of developers to make their game function better and ready for the schedule release date.
i think it's inexperience tbh. that more then the time. though time does fuck em up, looking back at any semi recent pokemon game they all have some kind of issue like this. gamefreak doens't have the experience to make it good and not the time to develop that experience. though i don't know if if they had that time they'd use it to get that experience
I'd say, as someone with a small amount of game development experience, it's actually poor optimization and resource management on GF's part. Less inexperience or laziness, or time restraints, and more likely that they just do not know how to manage resources of large on going projects very well. To prove my point, I'd like to point out that each successive generation adds and then drops features from the previous game. However with each new game that follows, they also retain the code of the previous pokemon and evolution mechanic, since that needs to be there. As well as any items a player could hold and sell for said mechanic. For example, the Elemental Stone evolutions, we got uses for them in Gen 1, then nothing really until Gen 5. That's a long time to keep carrying over that data while doing nothing with it. There's also the special balls used to catch pokemon in previous games, hold items like Arceus' plates, and a lot of other features such as moves existing on a specific pokemon. All this to say, Gamefreak does not plan ahead very well, or they'd plot out the next generations features to be future proofed into other games rather than the current method, which has been 'we're not doing a full national dex any more' and previous features may or may not reappear.
People have emulated the game on more powerful hardware and it still doesn't run well. It's not all the Switch's fault, 95% of this is on Game Freak for releasing this mess.
Lack of time is definitely a large factor, but it seems to me that whatever game engine GameFreak are using to create their 3D Pokemon titles just doesn't work well.
It's not that it doesn't work well I feel, other games on the switch that look beautiful have alot of techniques going into them to make them look and run that way. GF is not doing any of this, they're kinda just doing everything bluntly. BoTW can look like a blocky plastic nightmare without it numerous post processing effects. Xenoblade takes advantage of upscaling AI to get a performance boost (game actually runs at lower res but is upscaled up). I doubt it's an engine issue, it's more an optimisation issue where nothing particularly intelligent is being done to save graphical fidelity and performance.
When people use graphics for an open world on the Switch as an excuse for Pokemon, I just say Xenogears. Or hell... frakking Breath of the Wild. Somehow they managed it just fine.
My younger cousins and family members are like 12 to 14 now and are playing the current modern Pokémon games and they seem to enjoy it as it sedates them on long car trips. They didn't have complaints with the current games before. And when I introduced them to the games that I grew up on from Gen 1 through 5 and their remakes, suddenly they have this look of starvation on their faces for quality. They told me how much more immersive and fun and detailed the older games are and were disappointed when they had to go home because they don't have a 3DS and Platinum version and Heart Gold Soul Silver and Emerald are really hard to find right now unless you want to shell out around 150 bucks for each game and having to hunt down a working 3DS.
The first two minutes just makes this (these?) game(s?) sound like what Pokemon Go should have been. I got so excited for Pokemon Go. Then I found out it was just another shitty mobile game version of a better game. If it had real pokemon battles I would have played the shit out of it and gotten a lot of exercise, but it didn't so I didn't, to the detriment of my waistline. So my experience with the pokemon series remains the original Red and Silver on the Gameboy Color, which were great games. Hell, my old Gameboy still works, when I take it apart and clean the button contacts.
The consistency is a fair argument. I usually find the ever-increasing push for higher visual graphics as a key to the "modern game " problem. But this puts graphics being important into another perspective, consistency.b
My sister had to put the game down after a week of playing because it was starting to give her migraines; so I'd personally say YES, visuals DO matter when they can impact your health.
I think people are being too harsh in the comments Pokemon is this super niche franchise in this super niche console, it's literally just a passion project made by like, 3 devs There's only so much a small team can do with the hardware of the Nintendo Wii
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough for a miracle to break TPC 's rigid schedule on the release of Pokemon games so they can at least not be a broken mess in their world. Unbalanced, sure; insufficient in what people want, that's the fucking norm by now; but not broken messes in their world. What's worse is that between Arceus low graphic fidelity and mild glitches and the gen IV remakes being...well, what they are (being developed by a mobile game studio or not), it's a testament to how good they are at advertising Pokemon games that nobody started worrying about performance or graphical issues on them before they released.
@@GreenBlueWalkthroughI expect the multibillion dollar franchise to polish their products more, and that includes hiring more developers if the time constraints are high. Pokémon has a way too thin team for their size and revenue and schedules. If they just hired more people, all Pokémon games issues could be solved and even improved. But Pokémon game fans eat anything they make, so profit maximisation which means minimal effort kicks in.
I have to wonder if this is an intentional sacrifice by Nintendo. They haven't had many releases from their most popular franchises over the last couple years and the next one is still more than half a year out. Maybe they figured Pokemon fans are used to mediocre games and fans will probably buy it anyways. So if they're going to rush something out the door before it's ready, might as well be a Pokemon game. That's the only way I can see this happening. Nintendo has many faults, but their games are at least consistently solid on a technical level. And yeah, I know it's technically Game Freak who developed these games. But Nintendo has a lot of fingers in the poke-pie and as publisher and co-owner of the IP they must have known how broken these games were before release.
Well, if they delayed the game, they'd have to delay the merch, anime, card game, etc as well. And that just can't happen as far as the pokemon company is concerned. So when the pandemic hit it probably robbed the devs of a significant chunk of development time. Yeah I can see nintendo going along with the unrealistic release schedule, but no doubt the pokemon company was the main driving force here
@@dontstealmydiamondsv3156 Maybe but remember Nintendo and Game Freak are both co-owners of The Pokemon Company. I don't know exactly how their relationship works, but I'd be surprised if they didn't have the combined power necessary to delay the game if they really wanted to.
They contract out for the card game. They contract out for the anime. They contract out for the merch. And so on. The Pokémon Company's entire job it to manage the brand and make sure everything is released at the same time. They would have to renegotiate so many contracts and affect so many people's jobs that even a minor delay would be a nightmare. Everyone keeps bitching about it being the highest grossing media franchise but the games are probably a tiny, tiny slice of that. A nice plush can cost as much or more and have way, way less development cost. They are the highest grossing franchise because they stick to the schedules and, unfortunately, prioritize the mist profitable aspects. As someone who mostly shows up fur the games, I don't like it, but I understand that's how it is. Should/ could they develop things with more leeway? Probobally, and boy do I wish they would, but that would probably cost way more in terms of money and strain on business relationships than people are willing to admit. I wish there was a game like Pokémon that pushed gameplay experience first, and smaller gameplay teams have tried to fill some of the individual niches that Pokémon games hit. Temtem, coromon, monster sanctuary, abomi Nation, and bravery network online all barely capture different parts of the Pokémon experience. It turns out it's real hard to do all that Pokémon does, or even just so **some** of it well. I don't say this all as apologia for a huge corporate hydra, but man there must be a lot of individuals in there, especially in the game development teams, trying their best and being way more disappointed in the results forced out of them by the corporate juggernaut than any whining online fan.
@@Kevmane_the_birdI read your take, but Nintendo Game Freak or whoever is in charge could … just hire more people to develop the games. It is not that complicated, it is a question of man-hours of work. Their team is way too thin (and by now even old) for their size and revenue and schedules. Hire 2x or 3x more people there, and all the Pokémon games issues could be solved and improved while obeying the schedule. More artists to draw all the Pokémon instead of cutting the Dex, more people to code, etc. Maybe even to release more games, like a new Pokémon Mistery Dungeon. But Pokémon fans eat the mediocre productions does not matter what, so The games can have maximised profits, which means minimal effort.
If you are watching on mobile and you want a sliver of joy in a bleak world I recommend going to the very beginning of this video, pressing play, then tapping to make it rewind. Po-popo-poke-po-pokemon.
The quality of this game compared with the money that the studio brings in would be like if Toyota, in 2023 built and sold 1998 base model Toyota Yaris's as new cars. At this point there's no excuse for Game freaks substandard quality of new releases.
Oh my god. When you started talking about consistency, i yelled to myself about how thats the exact word, the exact thing i want in fallout new vegas mods, like that modern gun is cool 'n all but its just out of place in fnv
At this point i just wish they would make one mainline game a generation instead of having to make it every 3 years like sure I'd be less games we would have but they would be higher quality
I will say ever since SwSh discussion around pokemon game development has been tainted. I really appreciate your video existing since I feel a ton of people just see "Highest Grossing Media" franchise stuff, see the big number, and then assume its just laziness. One thing I will debate you on is I don't believe it would be impossible for a Pokemon game to be delayed a great example of this is during Pokemania they delayed Gen 2, and as a result the anime did the Orange Islands arc. Considering that I'd say if they ever needed to delay a game they could push back merch or figure something out for the anime, and even then the anime as of late is less focused on a specific region and more general meaning it's not super reliant on the games to push into new stuff. Outside of that I wholeheartedly agree Time is the biggest issue, in fact it's always been a massive issue for Pokemon (thanks to gigaleaks of gen 3 and 4 prototypes we can see even the older games faced tons of crunch and minor delays) it's an issue I feel they were able to balance in the 2D era, but I'm betting we're nearing the point where the straw will break the camels back. Crunch Culture isn't idolized, likely the dev team was struggling hard with time limits, Masuda (who in articles mentioned he works better in stress) is officially gone from Pokemon development, unless the newer heads share the same philosophy which could happen I could see a shift in the Pokemon release cycle coming eventually. I wanna say soon, but honestly I doubt it'll happen this gen. Amazing video again!
Gen two was the first sequel, not much was being made around that time compared to now, also the games aren't even the highest profiting Pokemon thing anymore, it's the merchandise so the games despite being what Pokemon is takes a lesser priority than than the merch
I'm Team Garlic all the way. I can't wait to feed my dog spaghetti to unlock it's ability to see ghost type Pokemon. And the Marinara Mafia might be one of the most politically complex evil organizations to date. What a leek we got
"Look bad" is kinda misleading; performs sloppily is better. They look amazing. When you start moving in towns and certain areas, though... the frame transitions look bad.
I love the franchise, but ive been boycotting officially pokemon games since lets go pikachu. My central objection is about not including all previous gen pokemon in the game, and the fee for transfering pokemon between games through the bank. Not sure if this is up-to-date information, but i felt like i need to draw a line in the sand :p also, why cant we just have Pokemon Colosseum with HD graphics?
When I stopped playing on the swtich and moved to the TV with it, WOW, so much different, Graphics can still be better by a lot but it felt FUN! Anyone wanting to play these , yes they have no excuse for not upping their graphics game in 2022 but you have GOT to give it a try, Play on your home TV, I have the OLED screen on the switch so it should look great.. But the pokemon are too small, PLAY ON THE TV! There are even Pixels showing on the pokeball on the switch, But the TV is a game changer for this game. open world =TV.
These games look like they are a mod for some old game where the modder ripped the pokemon assets from something else. They clearly have this art direction going on for all the characters and the pokemon and even if you don't like how they look they at least look coherent. They then stopped doing that for the rest of the world. It feels like they are absolutely out of their depth with the 3D environments here and probably at this point, out of ideas. How often can you tell the same story and then sell two versions of that? Nintendo CoD basically, they are probably gonna remake old gba games in 3D next or something to get the nostalgia going like how everyone else does it nowadays.
When your GameCube titles like Colosseum and XD has on par or better graphics/animations. Also, GameFreak has only 169 devs and here I thought Valve was the least employed AAA devs (~300). For a series that always releases annually, you would think they would take a page out of another billion dollar annual franchise, Call Of Duty. Have 2 or 3 dev studios that rotate between to give the studios some breathing room and have time to develop those games, ala COD.
Let's also take into account another thing: style vs graphics. If a game *looks nice* even old then even on outdated looking meshes a texture update and a lighting update can speak volumes if there's style backing it up. Best example would be Morrowind. It's old, draw distance is ass and the animations make Aqua Teen Hunger Force look like Akira by comparison. Saying that though if you go out, upscale the textures and increase the draw distance and 9/10 times that game still looks *nice* which is Pokemon's problem. Most of it looks too generic or budget PS2 grade which conflicts as is said alright with some high quality nice looking models.
I was like, may be people have a lot of expectation for a kids game that wants to sell plushies and cards. until i see 2:40 I'm wrong. and i cant unsee the horror.
It’s not just this fixed schedule for two joint releases mixed with Covid that messed up the dev time. Game Freak make more than just the ‘&’ titles. There was Arceus which released in 2022. That’s effectively three ambitious open world games in one year. And then before the pandemic, for the majority of the last decade, Game Freak were releasing games on an annual basis. In 2019 they released Giga Wrecker Alt, Little Town Hero *and* Pokémon Sword and Shield. Four games! And only a year after Pokémon Quest and the two ‘Let’s Go!’ games. This ain’t a small thing to overlook.
my take: I had fun it could have been optimized much better, hopefully I get's fixed, If you didn't enjoy it that's fine, for me this is the best since pokemon black and white.
this honoustly just seems to be the standard for game development period. if nothing else it's a direct result of investors wanting the greatest return for the lowest possible investment. where before game developers had the room to take at least SOME pride in their work. klet's not even get started about game devs hiring staff for every project and letting them go after the initial release because that's somehow cheaper?!
Definitely doesn't help that the Pokémon franchise operates in a way that basically has no downtime in sales/outputting something, whether that be seasons of anime, tcg, and merchandise, along with operating basically sane way since the ds games, so the Pokémon company has even less incentive to give the devs more time to polish, due to them needing to then delay everything probably, which is majorly not good, the choices they make
@@bluegem8582 "so the Pokémon company has even less incentive to give the devs more time to polish" "The Pokemon Company" does not pressure Game Freak to do anything. The Pokemon Company is joint venture founded *by* Game Freak, Nintendo and Creatures.
Its a even weird situation since there were 3 teams at the same time doing the Gen 4 remake arceus and SV. Most consensus says that they never share progress with each other. To add salt to the injury even sword and shield is based on go pikachu and go eveee engine the one that started the mess. Gen1 remake is a mess and gen4 dont. Ironically done by another company.
I haven’t bought a mainline games sense they started Dexit back in SwSh to where they cut the Pokémon themselves for no reason and they keep doing it too and nothing can justify it even in these games too.
The thing is, they made in 3 years a game that performs worse than it's previous iteration, even tho they could just used the assets from that previous game The game runs like dogshit, like, it runs like a yanderesimutor build And about Switch, you can have games that run good and are massive (for it's own perspectives), nintendo games should be aways aiming for consistency and quality, i have not seen BTOW being this bad before. Bro, Sword and Shield and even Legends Arceus are better titles, they run better and don't glitch as much And how can they mess this up? Maybe they fire the development team after launch In three years, three years, they made a game thats far worse than 2 of it's previous titles (let's forget DP remakes) for no reason. A indie dev in 3 years would made a better game, smaller probably, but more consistent
I like pokemon, but there is no good switch game. sword and shield are not "bad" games. But EVERY SINGLE Pokemon before that is just better, because 3D sucks for Pokemon. No one asked for this, no one wants this. X/Y Was a big comeback already in my opinion, as I didn't like the DS Games. The Sun and moon were a downer for competitive gameplay but they were good games. Ultra was not interesting, but since the switch era I gave up. Switch Pokemon games dont feel like Core games, more like spin offs like colloseum. These games are made without time, love or a brain even. I am just disappointed. This company worked so well with hardware limitations and now, on the switch of all homeconsoles, they act like they don't have limitations and the game runs like ass. How the turn tables.
3D is fine, what sucks is big empty worlds that can barely run on the hardware for no good reason (Breath of the Wild but not this?), where it genuinely feels like they just stamped it out of a machine.
I'd give XY a shot, but I'd recommend playing it with the EXP share off-the experience is more enjoyable that way. I'd also give ORAS a shot too! As for SV, skip it honestly. It is one of the most unfun and jank games I've played.
The real question is will the next suffer sale wise because of how bad this one was. Theres always a limit to these things and eventually people will sour to the IP if it continues
7:17 This isn’t a fluke. Gamefreak isn’t inexperienced on this platform (They’ve released three Pokémon games on the switch before this). With that said, gamefreak also isn’t lazy. They just know that this quality of product will sell, and the time constraints they put on their devs are so they can maximize game output while sacrificing polish and quality. They know consoomers will eat up whatever schlock is placed in front of them, so why take the time to polish their games when they can just release a new, half-baked one each year. This is a trend that has been going on since the first switch Pokémon game, Let’s GO pikachu and eevee. Just look at the release schedule since then and compare it to any time before. We’ve had FIVE Pokémon games on the switch (four of which were developed by gamefreak) and the switch’s life cycle isn’t even up yet. I’m surprised that people aren’t tired of this constant below average pokemon content being fired at them each year. The only way this barrage of garbage will end is if the consoomers stop buying, so in other words it’s never gonna happen. Welcome to Gamefreak’s Pokétorio.
This is all entirely on the Pokemon company's fault that the game came out looking this bad and buggy. The current annual release system just isn't sustainable and it's clear to see how rushed the devs are given how poorly optimized and buggy recent titles have been.
The issue is gamefreak is a team comparable to indie devs but is under tight control from the Pokémon company to make games at a impossible pace for the size of gamefreak,
I have played the games on an off over the years from the very start. The last one i tried out was Omega Ruby and alpha Saphire and i have played a bunch of the earlier ones so you are safe for definite up until this point lol.
But... Doesn't Call of Duty release a new game every year? Didn't Activision figure this out years ago? You just have multiple studios working on individual games, each game having two to three years of development time. I'm so tired of complaints about Pokemon not having enough staff. JUST HIRE MORE STAFF. CREATE MORE STUDIOS. THEY HAVE THE MONEY.
Pokemon has possibly had a worse jump to 3d than Sonic The Hedgehog lol, the difference between Unova and Kalos is night and day. It's annoying because the 2d games were probably way easier to work with the tight deadline let alone just looking more aesthetically pleasing and lively.
Ironically the new sonic ge is way better then the new pokemon game, but literally nothing can stop pokemon at this point
The transition to 3ds was good imo. Switch was where it got fucked up
Kalos was good, just that it was the beginning of the end.
@user-fq6tz3yv9u sm/usum was unironically the peak of 3d pokemom even if it was still way behind the 2d. It actually had effort put into it even if it felt quite misguided at times, all the pokemon were actually bothered to be programmed into the game, it was a good foundation and swsh shit all over it.
@@alessandrolira4035 idk how sun and moon could be the peak of 3D Pokémon when the game before it had much more content. Yeah s/m had effort put into it and the switch Pokémon games don’t even come close to it, but I don’t believe it’s the peak of 3D Pokémon lol. Yea, it had all the Pokémon “programmed” into it, although they just reused the models and animations from the previous game (didn’t bother me too much but still). Using this logic X and Y would be seen as peak 3D pokemon as the devs had to create all the pokemon (and new ones) in 3D from scratch.
Another thing to consider is that those older games didn’t LOOK outdated when they came out, in fact, most pushed the boundaries of what was possible at the time and were beautiful to behold for the gamer.
The Pokémon games have never been accused of pushing the boundaries of game art design.
I wouldn't say Pokémon ever actually pushed boundaries. There are more visually impressive games on every single platform Pokémon ever came out on. The DS was actually where Pokémon started to fall behind on what was "visually impressive," even if the DS games looked great. (Dragon Quest 9.)
GameFreak fighting with Mojang to see which company can do the bare minimum with their Multi Billion dollar budget
Gamefreak is a true master of that
Actually, in this case, we can more directly blame The Pokemon Company. GameFreak actually tried to get more time and budget, but TPC wouldn't budge.
EA sports would like a word
Valve: amateurs
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Pokémon company is half owned by gamefreak and other half by Nintendo….
I’m convinced all parties involved are simply trying to see how far they can push it before their sales take any noticeable hit
@Ĉiam Memorigante im guessing english isnt your 1st language? i dont wanna be rude but that sentence structure is incredibly confusing.
I'm so tired of video games needing to be rushed out and just end up being buggy messes. This shit is making me give up on newer games
Lol I have up on playing new releases in 2014 I think.
Its that bad when even Nintendo now does it now. RIP that Miyamoto quote, now their company doesn't even follow their principles.
We have indie games.
There's one thing I wish people would stop being so forgiving about, the whole idea that games *HAVE* to release because of "anime, merchandising, cards, etc need to line up!"
The Pokemon Company reports their financial earnings, and as a private company, they're under zero obligation to do so. Yet, they still come forward & break down how much money they make to let people know how strong the brand is.
You know what they specifically say in those reports? Merchandising/licensing doesn't make up a "significant" enough portion of revenue to report, then follow it up by saying "all earnings are from *GAMES ONLY!"
So every fiscal report they release only covers the video game sales... and because they don't have to report ANYTHING, it's pretty telling to me what makes up the most significant portion of their income, otherwise they'd lump it all together & say "we made this even LARGER amount of money this year!" That'd be easy & make their numbers even bigger right? Yet they don't...
Even if the licensing & merch makes a good chunk of change, it's not worth hampering your primary driver of revenue to accommodate the side things! It'd be like if a Pizza chain who makes 90% of its revenue from pizza swapped out to its dough just to make its bread sticks taste better, even though it makes the pizza taste like ass. Why do that?
The games make billions on their own, selling more than most AAA games & all being sold for full price! Even the most high budget AAA games go on sale quite often, but not Pokemon! It's almost always a full $60 for all 15-25 million copies sold. And since they're not investing as much into development as other AAA games get, the return on investment is even greater!
So how in the hell can we excuse billion dollar-earning games looking/running like garbage, just because new million dollar licensing products need to come out at the same time? It's nonsensical!
Sorry for the rant, it just really bugs me when we all know how much JUST THE GAMES make!
Pokemon Garlic and Onion. I don’t know why that sounds so hilarious yet possible at the same time lol
People who give the graphics a pass in favour of gameplay need to understand that Pokemon's gameplay isn't anywhere close to a point where it's refined enough to justify diverting resources. The battles in Scarlet and Violet are SO SLOW it's absurd. It's 2022 and the ampersand (&) is still an innovation that Game Freak has yet to master, because instead of just saying
"Pawmi was poisoned and took damage"
It's
"Pawmi was hit by poison tail" 1, 2, 3, 4, "It's not very effective" 1, 2, 3, 4, "Pawmi was poisoned" 1, 2, 3, 4, "Pawmi was hurt by the poison" 1, 2, 3, 4.
Which REALLY adds up across hundreds of battles, especially when you start adding in the same nonsense with stat changes, switches, abilities, and on and on and on.
Gen 4 flashbacks😭😭
hey on the flipside it makes Diamond and Pearl more playable by virtue of scarlet and violet being even slower than those two were
It's even more awful that Legends Arceus which came out prior, fixed the slow battle issues. Battles in that game don't drag for bullshit and animations play out quickly it's feels much better to play in comparison.
They want you playing the game for longer. And streamers to play longer. Did you see how fast we stopped caring about sword and shield, Why would efficient be the goal?
@@CrispyCancer that's the worst aspect of Violet and Scarlet. They pretty much mess up most of the stuff Legends Arceus fixed and got right
The point you made about consistency is so true. I don't mind playing PS2 games since the visuals come together properly despite being obviously lower fidelity.
In a way modern games with low end graphics end up looking less appealing as a result despite higher level from a technical standpoint than older games.
for real.
SNES games still look great after almost 30 years. It's easier to see since a ton of modern games replicate the style, but games like Super Mario World, Super Metroid, and Chrono Trigger still look modern with their art and general design.
(i don't know any other SNES games to use as an example, oof).
It's a lot easier to go easy on PS2 games because, you know, they're PS2 games. People don't seem to understand that Pokémon doesn't have that same limitation.
Yo I hear they plan on making pokemon garlic and onion run at a consistent 20 FPS
The Pokemon minecraft mod is unironically of a higher quality than these two games.
Ironically there’s a Pokémon in the game that looks like it came from Minecraft
Someone who mods is someone who cares.
And also is probably not victim to time constrainrs
Because it's had YEARS to slowly improve.
@@Savariable
Thing is with most mods even with decades of work and dedication they never and should never be able to surpass a brand new entry to the series that was being modded.
Ex: Warband had many great mods and a strong modding community but when Bannerlord came out none of those mods are as good as the new game.
This especially shouldn't be the case when its a mod for a completely different game.
Official titles should always completely surpass any fanwork and if it doesn't then there is something seriously wrong or the mod team is absolutely exceptional.
Unironically if Pokemon made a LeafGreen clone with new graphics, new region and new pokes it would obliterate most if not all fan games and without going over the development time of Violet/Scarlet.
3D is harder and takes longer and is buggier. Their small team and short timescale are suited to the old sprites-based Pokemon games.
If they want to keep doing 3d then they either need way way more people or they need more time with still a lot more people.
ironically its better than most minecraft updates too
I feel like with an well experienced team behind it Nintendo switch exclusives can look really good while running well. The Xenoblade Chronicles games always come to mind when this is brought up, not only do they look good, they are suprinsigly well optimized, but I guess Monolith Soft is filled with a bunch of programming wizards so I don't think it's a fair comparison lmao
Nah, I'd say the Xenoblade game on Switch are pretty ugly.
@@supersodayoda1471 Part of it is that Xenoblade has a consistent style, but the other part is how Xenoblade does *so much more* with the outdated hardware it's given. Same goes for, well, pretty much any game that Nintendo contracted Monolith Soft to help on. (which is most of their 1st party offerings)
Please please release your review, we should not let your work to go waste
I've been playing through DK64 again and no joke, the tessellation and pop-in is better on a freaking N64 game.
'They were ambitious in parts'... Which parts of SV exactly can be considered 'ambitious'?
One of the most interesting things I've noticed about Pokémon reviews is that they get compared to other Pokémon games only.
That's the only way a game making changes that were industry standard 15 years ago and doing them pretty badly (empty towns, flat and copy paste NPCs, shallow quests etc) can be considered ambitious.
Idk. Pokémon has it's own charm, which inexplicably makes it's faults less apparent, especially the older titles.
@@DakotaofRaptors POkemon is kind of the only game in town when it comes to monster-collecting RPGs.
We used to have a couple others like Monster Rancher, I think? And there WAS that one indie go at it, Tem-Tem, but it sounds like the devs got greedy and tried to stuff microtransactions in it or something.
I don't know why nobody else has tried to take a crack at the monster-collecting RPG genre. Pokemon could use some competition.
@@MisterZimbabwe even if they tried, I doubt that there is anybody that could compete with the Pokémon Company to be honest.
@@MisterZimbabwe Spores was a thing that existed. It was okay
@@MisterZimbabwe digimon
It feels like the entire game is made out of placeholder textures
This, the ground looks so bad
While I like the content of the video.. I wholeheartedly disagree with the premise.
The problem is certainly NOT time..
That project triangle thing says time, cost, quality. Pokémon games fail in two of them! And it's not because they don't have the funds, they just decide not to increase the costs.. so that is WORSE that being lazy!
The dates are entirely their choice. Period.
And looking at Arceus, this is the norm and what we can expect.. and that is visually! Gameplay has been a flat line and a constant disappointment, so there's also that.
the 3DS games have better graphics then the newer games.
Pokemon X/Y, Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, even older games like diamond and pearl.
Honestly I wish theyd just bring back the DS's.
Man you are really giving the pokemon company and game freak a lot more leeway than they deserve. Take into account this is THE most profitable franchise in the whole world, if there's any company that can throw money at a problem to solve it, it's them. Also please don't blame the terrible state this game is in on "lack of experience" or "not enough time", they've been doing 3d Pokemon games for a while now, and if they really needed it (which they do) they can hire more people to at least get it polished faster. I'm almost certain game freak and the pokemon company do not care AT ALL about polish or good game development anymore
Throw money at the problem: if facebook cant make horizons look good after 10b dollars then gamefreak does not have enough money to solve this lmao
I think in this particular case, time is a valid excuse. COVID drastically altered the entire globe with the effects still being felt to this day. Lockdown started roughly two years ago, so roughly 67% of the production time was affected in some way. SV was also by FAR the most ambitious title they've done with several new mechanics. Yes, you can spend more money, but keep in mind that it's difficult to bring in new people and expect them to be fully competent and gelled in with the rest of the team immediately, particularly when in person meetings are infrequent at best. If GF didn't care about the series, they wouldn't have attempted to make a fully open world title with branching missions, something that had never been done before in the franchise. Now if the NEXT generation of games comes out and there's been no progress on game performance/visuals, then I'd be more inclined to say GF or Nintendo itself is the issue.
@@kylejohnson1440 not the covid nonsense excuse again. If there is any industry that can work from home its the gaming industry
Hiring many more people will not help, that would create communication issues and management problems slowing down the process
@@henkhenkste6076 no, they really can't when their high powered computers and tech use expensive proprietary softwares, you can't port that shit to most people's at home computers and expect to work.
>Nov 25 2025
Imagine GF having that much time to make a game
Gen10 will be announced on in 6 months and released in 8.
This is what happens when a game IP makes more money from merchandise than games.
I swear, Nintendo needs to really put the pressure on Game Freak, because otherwise you're only going to get buggy broken games. Because Pokemon will sell millions and millions regardless.
I preface this by saying that I'm not a Pokémon fan. I haven't played a new release since X and Y and I was not sold on the experience.
I like where you went with the dissusion in regard to consistency, but I think it's much simpler to say that older games, while not as detailed, didn't have nearly as much pop in, lighting defects, or glitched animation. At least I don't remember any of it in games like Mario 64 or even Oblivion. The fact that it's in Scarlet and Violet is not what was intended, therfore it looks bad and lessens the experience. All and all it should not have been allowed to release, schedules be damned. They have enough money to take a hit and work to deliver a quality product. Sword and Shield didn't look good either, and this looks worse. I wouldn't count on things to get better. And you can't really blame the Switch because it plays games like Breath of the Wild, Skyrim, and Doom better than this one. And none of those were made from the ground up for the Switch. This one should have been.
hope they'll use like 50% (the good half) of these assets for the next title and have another banger story line and gameplay features, havent played the game myself (no switch) and watched RT's stream highlights instead, story was a bit too all over the place if you ask me
Has ANY pokemon game EVER had a story that could be considered a "banger"? It's all the same on-rails shallow nonsense as far as I've experienced.
@@MisterZimbabwe yeah several of them. Also X/Y storyline wasn't great but it certainly was crazy and on on-rails I mean like it randomly introduced an old guy who apparently was immortal and millennia old and had invented an ancient superweapon that could destroy the world and meanwhile I was just like "... wth is even happening anymore is this even still pokemon"
@@meee_5155 yeah, uh, random isn't exactly a good thing. Theirs a difference between a plot twist and random shit. Az was just a bad plot element and even if I do like that portion of the simple story it still doesn't override the fact that it's random without purpose
Funny thing about assets, they have actually been using the same assets for the pokemon (except of course the newer ones that would get new models anyway) since X/Y. Basically, they made extremely high fidelity models for the transition to 3D and have been downscaling them as needed. I will say it is a smart idea, especially since they can just give the models to games not being developed by GF like Go, BD/SP, and any other spin off I can't remember or just don't know about.
I don’t see the problem. GameFreak and their fans have a solid sadomasochist relationship. One scams and the other loves getting scammed, protests, swears they won’t play another game. Then the cicle repeats all over again.
I have heard from people who went from “I don’t know. This game’s promos look rough…” to “Holy sh*t this game looks horrible!” to, after playing it for dozens of hours, “Eh… it actually is kinda fun.”
It’s all about the journey into self-gaslighting. It’s all about the kink of justifying the scam.
None of that gonna change. It’s natural. Shameful and natural ❤
It is fun, tho. I'm way more entertained by my 3 fps electric mice playing football than I am watching God of Cutscene that is supposedly GOTY worthy.
@@BernieDSniper Being better than God of Bore isn't that high of a standard.
I still cannot stand how their isn’t any voice acting.
It really bothers me.
I didn't buy let's go pikachu/eevee, I didn't buy Sword/shield, and I didn't buy scarlet/violet. I don't think I've enjoyed a pokemon game since generation 5. It sucks because I love pokemon, I grew up with it! I just can't support games that are broken on release and more importantly that I don't enjoy. I'll stick with romhacks and spinoffs until GF gets their shit together, if they ever do.
The problem with Gamefreak is their "small indie team" mentality. They can't operate their games with 100 people, especially with their transition to 3D and over 1000 pokemon designs (with even more to come). This method works best with 2D sprites, they need hundreds of developers to make their game function better and ready for the schedule release date.
i think it's inexperience tbh. that more then the time. though time does fuck em up, looking back at any semi recent pokemon game they all have some kind of issue like this. gamefreak doens't have the experience to make it good and not the time to develop that experience. though i don't know if if they had that time they'd use it to get that experience
I'd say, as someone with a small amount of game development experience, it's actually poor optimization and resource management on GF's part. Less inexperience or laziness, or time restraints, and more likely that they just do not know how to manage resources of large on going projects very well. To prove my point, I'd like to point out that each successive generation adds and then drops features from the previous game. However with each new game that follows, they also retain the code of the previous pokemon and evolution mechanic, since that needs to be there. As well as any items a player could hold and sell for said mechanic. For example, the Elemental Stone evolutions, we got uses for them in Gen 1, then nothing really until Gen 5. That's a long time to keep carrying over that data while doing nothing with it. There's also the special balls used to catch pokemon in previous games, hold items like Arceus' plates, and a lot of other features such as moves existing on a specific pokemon. All this to say, Gamefreak does not plan ahead very well, or they'd plot out the next generations features to be future proofed into other games rather than the current method, which has been 'we're not doing a full national dex any more' and previous features may or may not reappear.
People have emulated the game on more powerful hardware and it still doesn't run well. It's not all the Switch's fault, 95% of this is on Game Freak for releasing this mess.
Lack of time is definitely a large factor, but it seems to me that whatever game engine GameFreak are using to create their 3D Pokemon titles just doesn't work well.
It's not that it doesn't work well I feel, other games on the switch that look beautiful have alot of techniques going into them to make them look and run that way. GF is not doing any of this, they're kinda just doing everything bluntly. BoTW can look like a blocky plastic nightmare without it numerous post processing effects. Xenoblade takes advantage of upscaling AI to get a performance boost (game actually runs at lower res but is upscaled up). I doubt it's an engine issue, it's more an optimisation issue where nothing particularly intelligent is being done to save graphical fidelity and performance.
When people use graphics for an open world on the Switch as an excuse for Pokemon, I just say Xenogears. Or hell... frakking Breath of the Wild. Somehow they managed it just fine.
My younger cousins and family members are like 12 to 14 now and are playing the current modern Pokémon games and they seem to enjoy it as it sedates them on long car trips. They didn't have complaints with the current games before. And when I introduced them to the games that I grew up on from Gen 1 through 5 and their remakes, suddenly they have this look of starvation on their faces for quality. They told me how much more immersive and fun and detailed the older games are and were disappointed when they had to go home because they don't have a 3DS and Platinum version and Heart Gold Soul Silver and Emerald are really hard to find right now unless you want to shell out around 150 bucks for each game and having to hunt down a working 3DS.
The first two minutes just makes this (these?) game(s?) sound like what Pokemon Go should have been. I got so excited for Pokemon Go. Then I found out it was just another shitty mobile game version of a better game. If it had real pokemon battles I would have played the shit out of it and gotten a lot of exercise, but it didn't so I didn't, to the detriment of my waistline.
So my experience with the pokemon series remains the original Red and Silver on the Gameboy Color, which were great games. Hell, my old Gameboy still works, when I take it apart and clean the button contacts.
The consistency is a fair argument.
I usually find the ever-increasing push for higher visual graphics as a key to the "modern game " problem. But this puts graphics being important into another perspective, consistency.b
My sister had to put the game down after a week of playing because it was starting to give her migraines; so I'd personally say YES, visuals DO matter when they can impact your health.
I think people are being too harsh in the comments
Pokemon is this super niche franchise in this super niche console, it's literally just a passion project made by like, 3 devs
There's only so much a small team can do with the hardware of the Nintendo Wii
Pokemon got Cyberpunk'd!
They're the biggest franchise in the world and they come out with this?
When you do as much as they did in like a year what do you expact?
People have to remember that it's not the games that made pokemon rich and never will be
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough for a miracle to break TPC 's rigid schedule on the release of Pokemon games so they can at least not be a broken mess in their world. Unbalanced, sure; insufficient in what people want, that's the fucking norm by now; but not broken messes in their world. What's worse is that between Arceus low graphic fidelity and mild glitches and the gen IV remakes being...well, what they are (being developed by a mobile game studio or not), it's a testament to how good they are at advertising Pokemon games that nobody started worrying about performance or graphical issues on them before they released.
@@GreenBlueWalkthroughI expect the multibillion dollar franchise to polish their products more, and that includes hiring more developers if the time constraints are high. Pokémon has a way too thin team for their size and revenue and schedules. If they just hired more people, all Pokémon games issues could be solved and even improved. But Pokémon game fans eat anything they make, so profit maximisation which means minimal effort kicks in.
I have to wonder if this is an intentional sacrifice by Nintendo. They haven't had many releases from their most popular franchises over the last couple years and the next one is still more than half a year out. Maybe they figured Pokemon fans are used to mediocre games and fans will probably buy it anyways. So if they're going to rush something out the door before it's ready, might as well be a Pokemon game.
That's the only way I can see this happening. Nintendo has many faults, but their games are at least consistently solid on a technical level. And yeah, I know it's technically Game Freak who developed these games. But Nintendo has a lot of fingers in the poke-pie and as publisher and co-owner of the IP they must have known how broken these games were before release.
Well, if they delayed the game, they'd have to delay the merch, anime, card game, etc as well. And that just can't happen as far as the pokemon company is concerned. So when the pandemic hit it probably robbed the devs of a significant chunk of development time.
Yeah I can see nintendo going along with the unrealistic release schedule, but no doubt the pokemon company was the main driving force here
@@dontstealmydiamondsv3156 Maybe but remember Nintendo and Game Freak are both co-owners of The Pokemon Company. I don't know exactly how their relationship works, but I'd be surprised if they didn't have the combined power necessary to delay the game if they really wanted to.
They contract out for the card game. They contract out for the anime. They contract out for the merch. And so on.
The Pokémon Company's entire job it to manage the brand and make sure everything is released at the same time. They would have to renegotiate so many contracts and affect so many people's jobs that even a minor delay would be a nightmare. Everyone keeps bitching about it being the highest grossing media franchise but the games are probably a tiny, tiny slice of that. A nice plush can cost as much or more and have way, way less development cost. They are the highest grossing franchise because they stick to the schedules and, unfortunately, prioritize the mist profitable aspects. As someone who mostly shows up fur the games, I don't like it, but I understand that's how it is. Should/ could they develop things with more leeway? Probobally, and boy do I wish they would, but that would probably cost way more in terms of money and strain on business relationships than people are willing to admit.
I wish there was a game like Pokémon that pushed gameplay experience first, and smaller gameplay teams have tried to fill some of the individual niches that Pokémon games hit. Temtem, coromon, monster sanctuary, abomi Nation, and bravery network online all barely capture different parts of the Pokémon experience. It turns out it's real hard to do all that Pokémon does, or even just so **some** of it well. I don't say this all as apologia for a huge corporate hydra, but man there must be a lot of individuals in there, especially in the game development teams, trying their best and being way more disappointed in the results forced out of them by the corporate juggernaut than any whining online fan.
@@Kevmane_the_birdI read your take, but Nintendo Game Freak or whoever is in charge could … just hire more people to develop the games. It is not that complicated, it is a question of man-hours of work. Their team is way too thin (and by now even old) for their size and revenue and schedules. Hire 2x or 3x more people there, and all the Pokémon games issues could be solved and improved while obeying the schedule. More artists to draw all the Pokémon instead of cutting the Dex, more people to code, etc. Maybe even to release more games, like a new Pokémon Mistery Dungeon. But Pokémon fans eat the mediocre productions does not matter what, so The games can have maximised profits, which means minimal effort.
This will continue until backlash hurts sales. Why try when they make so much so easily
Why aren't they using the Nintendo R&D Team Engine (the one used for Mario and Zelda)?
If you are watching on mobile and you want a sliver of joy in a bleak world I recommend going to the very beginning of this video, pressing play, then tapping to make it rewind.
Po-popo-poke-po-pokemon.
The quality of this game compared with the money that the studio brings in would be like if Toyota, in 2023 built and sold 1998 base model Toyota Yaris's as new cars.
At this point there's no excuse for Game freaks substandard quality of new releases.
The lore of the Cody-Tyler cinematic universe is getting pretty deep.
swsh was boring but functional, and scarlet + violet is fun but broken,,, hm,,,
So in your eyes that could mean that you think Scarlet and Violet are better than sword and shield
I'm really enjoying the game, but I am so, so tired of thinking "Well, maybe *next* generation they'll get their shit together."
Oh my god. When you started talking about consistency, i yelled to myself about how thats the exact word, the exact thing i want in fallout new vegas mods, like that modern gun is cool 'n all but its just out of place in fnv
Also goes for fallout 4 too, probably even more, but i didn't play much fallout 4
At this point i just wish they would make one mainline game a generation instead of having to make it every 3 years like sure I'd be less games we would have but they would be higher quality
I hate poke men and have never watched anything on UA-cam related to it until today. I couldn't ignore one of your uploads even if it's pokey mens
I don't follow pokemon that much but like didn't we just have a new pokemon game since when did these release so frequently
I will say ever since SwSh discussion around pokemon game development has been tainted. I really appreciate your video existing since I feel a ton of people just see "Highest Grossing Media" franchise stuff, see the big number, and then assume its just laziness. One thing I will debate you on is I don't believe it would be impossible for a Pokemon game to be delayed a great example of this is during Pokemania they delayed Gen 2, and as a result the anime did the Orange Islands arc. Considering that I'd say if they ever needed to delay a game they could push back merch or figure something out for the anime, and even then the anime as of late is less focused on a specific region and more general meaning it's not super reliant on the games to push into new stuff. Outside of that I wholeheartedly agree Time is the biggest issue, in fact it's always been a massive issue for Pokemon (thanks to gigaleaks of gen 3 and 4 prototypes we can see even the older games faced tons of crunch and minor delays) it's an issue I feel they were able to balance in the 2D era, but I'm betting we're nearing the point where the straw will break the camels back. Crunch Culture isn't idolized, likely the dev team was struggling hard with time limits, Masuda (who in articles mentioned he works better in stress) is officially gone from Pokemon development, unless the newer heads share the same philosophy which could happen I could see a shift in the Pokemon release cycle coming eventually. I wanna say soon, but honestly I doubt it'll happen this gen.
Amazing video again!
Gen two was the first sequel, not much was being made around that time compared to now, also the games aren't even the highest profiting Pokemon thing anymore, it's the merchandise so the games despite being what Pokemon is takes a lesser priority than than the merch
I'm Team Garlic all the way. I can't wait to feed my dog spaghetti to unlock it's ability to see ghost type Pokemon. And the Marinara Mafia might be one of the most politically complex evil organizations to date. What a leek we got
"Look bad" is kinda misleading; performs sloppily is better. They look amazing. When you start moving in towns and certain areas, though... the frame transitions look bad.
I love the franchise, but ive been boycotting officially pokemon games since lets go pikachu. My central objection is about not including all previous gen pokemon in the game, and the fee for transfering pokemon between games through the bank. Not sure if this is up-to-date information, but i felt like i need to draw a line in the sand :p also, why cant we just have Pokemon Colosseum with HD graphics?
I will not accept that the latest game does not have enough pokemons. I have 2 boxes full of normal type birds, they should have cut 90% of them
When I stopped playing on the swtich and moved to the TV with it, WOW, so much different, Graphics can still be better by a lot but it felt FUN! Anyone wanting to play these , yes they have no excuse for not upping their graphics game in 2022 but you have GOT to give it a try, Play on your home TV, I have the OLED screen on the switch so it should look great.. But the pokemon are too small, PLAY ON THE TV! There are even Pixels showing on the pokeball on the switch, But the TV is a game changer for this game. open world =TV.
These games look like they are a mod for some old game where the modder ripped the pokemon assets from something else. They clearly have this art direction going on for all the characters and the pokemon and even if you don't like how they look they at least look coherent. They then stopped doing that for the rest of the world. It feels like they are absolutely out of their depth with the 3D environments here and probably at this point, out of ideas. How often can you tell the same story and then sell two versions of that? Nintendo CoD basically, they are probably gonna remake old gba games in 3D next or something to get the nostalgia going like how everyone else does it nowadays.
It's the Skate 3 of Pokémon.
What did you expect?
This is definitely the best not review of Pokemon Purple and Pokemon Darkish Red
i actually really liked sword and shield, sucks it didn’t get better like most fans hoped
When your GameCube titles like Colosseum and XD has on par or better graphics/animations.
Also, GameFreak has only 169 devs and here I thought Valve was the least employed AAA devs (~300). For a series that always releases annually, you would think they would take a page out of another billion dollar annual franchise, Call Of Duty. Have 2 or 3 dev studios that rotate between to give the studios some breathing room and have time to develop those games, ala COD.
The holiday background is cool! Can we have a whimsu moon shirt?
Let's also take into account another thing: style vs graphics. If a game *looks nice* even old then even on outdated looking meshes a texture update and a lighting update can speak volumes if there's style backing it up. Best example would be Morrowind. It's old, draw distance is ass and the animations make Aqua Teen Hunger Force look like Akira by comparison. Saying that though if you go out, upscale the textures and increase the draw distance and 9/10 times that game still looks *nice* which is Pokemon's problem. Most of it looks too generic or budget PS2 grade which conflicts as is said alright with some high quality nice looking models.
I was like, may be people have a lot of expectation for a kids game that wants to sell plushies and cards. until i see 2:40
I'm wrong. and i cant unsee the horror.
It’s not just this fixed schedule for two joint releases mixed with Covid that messed up the dev time. Game Freak make more than just the ‘&’ titles.
There was Arceus which released in 2022. That’s effectively three ambitious open world games in one year.
And then before the pandemic, for the majority of the last decade, Game Freak were releasing games on an annual basis. In 2019 they released Giga Wrecker Alt, Little Town Hero *and* Pokémon Sword and Shield. Four games! And only a year after Pokémon Quest and the two ‘Let’s Go!’ games.
This ain’t a small thing to overlook.
I've pre-ordered Pokemon garlic.
Can't wait!
Pokemon doesn't need to be 3D to offer a fun, engaging gaming experience.
my take: I had fun it could have been optimized much better, hopefully I get's fixed, If you didn't enjoy it that's fine, for me this is the best since pokemon black and white.
this honoustly just seems to be the standard for game development period. if nothing else it's a direct result of investors wanting the greatest return for the lowest possible investment. where before game developers had the room to take at least SOME pride in their work. klet's not even get started about game devs hiring staff for every project and letting them go after the initial release because that's somehow cheaper?!
Definitely doesn't help that the Pokémon franchise operates in a way that basically has no downtime in sales/outputting something, whether that be seasons of anime, tcg, and merchandise, along with operating basically sane way since the ds games, so the Pokémon company has even less incentive to give the devs more time to polish, due to them needing to then delay everything probably, which is majorly not good, the choices they make
@@bluegem8582 "so the Pokémon company has even less incentive to give the devs more time to polish"
"The Pokemon Company" does not pressure Game Freak to do anything. The Pokemon Company is joint venture founded *by* Game Freak, Nintendo and Creatures.
Its a even weird situation since there were 3 teams at the same time doing the Gen 4 remake arceus and SV.
Most consensus says that they never share progress with each other. To add salt to the injury even sword and shield is based on go pikachu and go eveee engine the one that started the mess. Gen1 remake is a mess and gen4 dont. Ironically done by another company.
anyone paying for this is insane
7:14 I don't know anything about Pokemon but I like the idea of the little green thingie screaming "I'm part of the problem?!?"
I haven’t bought a mainline games sense they started Dexit back in SwSh to where they cut the Pokémon themselves for no reason and they keep doing it too and nothing can justify it even in these games too.
AND the games cost 50% more.
It's funny to see that at this point adults are mainly the ones playing Pokémon.
Always has been.
Did all the children you hang out with not buy the game?
Who else is hyped for pokemon garlic and onion
The thing is, they made in 3 years a game that performs worse than it's previous iteration, even tho they could just used the assets from that previous game
The game runs like dogshit, like, it runs like a yanderesimutor build
And about Switch, you can have games that run good and are massive (for it's own perspectives), nintendo games should be aways aiming for consistency and quality, i have not seen BTOW being this bad before. Bro, Sword and Shield and even Legends Arceus are better titles, they run better and don't glitch as much
And how can they mess this up? Maybe they fire the development team after launch
In three years, three years, they made a game thats far worse than 2 of it's previous titles (let's forget DP remakes) for no reason. A indie dev in 3 years would made a better game, smaller probably, but more consistent
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Tired of these trolls that knows NOTHING about the game giving reviews. Game looks fine and is literally a game changer. Stop nitpicking
This game looks like the backgrounds that are 15 in game miles away from the player
I like pokemon, but there is no good switch game. sword and shield are not "bad" games. But EVERY SINGLE Pokemon before that is just better, because 3D sucks for Pokemon. No one asked for this, no one wants this. X/Y Was a big comeback already in my opinion, as I didn't like the DS Games. The Sun and moon were a downer for competitive gameplay but they were good games. Ultra was not interesting, but since the switch era I gave up. Switch Pokemon games dont feel like Core games, more like spin offs like colloseum. These games are made without time, love or a brain even. I am just disappointed. This company worked so well with hardware limitations and now, on the switch of all homeconsoles, they act like they don't have limitations and the game runs like ass. How the turn tables.
3D is fine, what sucks is big empty worlds that can barely run on the hardware for no good reason (Breath of the Wild but not this?), where it genuinely feels like they just stamped it out of a machine.
I only played
Emerald,firered, platinum, SoulSilver,black,black 2
Should i give 3D pkmn games a shot like
X and Y or this game?
I'd give XY a shot, but I'd recommend playing it with the EXP share off-the experience is more enjoyable that way.
I'd also give ORAS a shot too!
As for SV, skip it honestly. It is one of the most unfun and jank games I've played.
@@christianmckee2116 i was apparently addicted to playing black 2 lol
whatdoumean Pokemon Garlic and Onion 2025? Those are slated for next year
This game sold 10 million copies while Pikmin 1 only sold 1,19 Million in its original run. The world is cruel and unfair.
The real question is will the next suffer sale wise because of how bad this one was. Theres always a limit to these things and eventually people will sour to the IP if it continues
The rerelease of Ark Survival shows that it's not the Switch that is the problem.
Wait, Pokémon is cars now?
I found this channel looking for your music. Is it only on Soundcloud?
game freak was lazy and the switch is too old
both sides are at fault
7:17 This isn’t a fluke. Gamefreak isn’t inexperienced on this platform (They’ve released three Pokémon games on the switch before this). With that said, gamefreak also isn’t lazy. They just know that this quality of product will sell, and the time constraints they put on their devs are so they can maximize game output while sacrificing polish and quality. They know consoomers will eat up whatever schlock is placed in front of them, so why take the time to polish their games when they can just release a new, half-baked one each year.
This is a trend that has been going on since the first switch Pokémon game, Let’s GO pikachu and eevee. Just look at the release schedule since then and compare it to any time before. We’ve had FIVE Pokémon games on the switch (four of which were developed by gamefreak) and the switch’s life cycle isn’t even up yet. I’m surprised that people aren’t tired of this constant below average pokemon content being fired at them each year. The only way this barrage of garbage will end is if the consoomers stop buying, so in other words it’s never gonna happen. Welcome to Gamefreak’s Pokétorio.
Genuinely prefer gba Pokémon to this
This is all entirely on the Pokemon company's fault that the game came out looking this bad and buggy.
The current annual release system just isn't sustainable and it's clear to see how rushed the devs are given how poorly optimized and buggy recent titles have been.
Plooble.
The issue is gamefreak is a team comparable to indie devs but is under tight control from the Pokémon company to make games at a impossible pace for the size of gamefreak,
I haven’t played a Pokémon game yet and these new games are scaring me off
I have played the games on an off over the years from the very start. The last one i tried out was Omega Ruby and alpha Saphire and i have played a bunch of the earlier ones so you are safe for definite up until this point lol.
Good video. Had to dig to find it though, didn't pop up like your videos normally do since I'm subscribed.
I heard it runs better on PC emulators.
But... Doesn't Call of Duty release a new game every year? Didn't Activision figure this out years ago? You just have multiple studios working on individual games, each game having two to three years of development time. I'm so tired of complaints about Pokemon not having enough staff. JUST HIRE MORE STAFF. CREATE MORE STUDIOS. THEY HAVE THE MONEY.
still more stable than cyberpunk
awsum cant wait for garlic and onion
They really should just take 5-6 years, redo the visuals, do the code well, and then release a good game
I love the giant enemy crab
Console variation video for n64?
Supporting this crazy ass channel, keep up the good work, hope youre doing well
Todd Howard ghostwrote this game