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- Post-Brexit life has become difficult for people of Britain residing in Spain. The problems increase after people especially expats are concerned about their duration of stay and livelihood in order to stay longer. WION tells you more.
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Oh my GOD! The INJUSTICE! They have to fill out a FORM???? And get PERMISSION to stay in a country they were not born in? Like everybody else in the world when settling in a new country? And they have only had five years to prepare????? The HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!
Many Brits who had properties in Spain voted for Brexit, and still had the option to apply for resedencia but couldn't because, despite living in Spain they couldn't be bothered to learn Spanish, don't shed any tears for these people who voted for Brexit because of their own bigotry, unfortunately those of us in the UK who voted remain still have to cope with the mess these people created
They don’t shed as many tears as you did when you lost the Brexit vote, U.K. maybe struggling a little with brexit but what do you expect when a remainder disguised as a leaver was and still is in charge, Traitors all of you
It wasn't the refusal to learn Spanish, they refused to legalise their status because they didn't want to pay taxes, matriculate their UK plated car, which was declared SORN, had at best a very dodgy MOT. That's why.
However the vast majority don't speak Spanish and refuse to integrate, the Spanish Government should turf them out , especially as a lot of these Brexity Brits are the first ones to complain about someone here not speaking English in the UK ( even if they're actually speaking English correctly with a foreign accent )
@@garykelly6669 Interestingly a lot of the 'Moaning Brits,' voted - if they voted, to remain. They can't speak Spanish even at a basic level, perhaps Ho lar, and Grassy arse,' may be 'Benos Dee arse' but not much more! They now moan 'It's not the Brexit I voted for!' They have no idea what 'Hast luego, señor,' means. Adios amigo!
@Volcano-Man I voted remain and despite the fact I don't live in Spain I speak Spanish as I visit Spain frequently I have some sympathy for the British people in Spain who didn't vote for Brexit however whatever way you voted if you're living in another country learn the language, the culture and integrate and if you don't want to then leave , and FYI no such thing as ex pats they're immigrants,
Expat is a word used by Brits living abroad to avoid calling themselves “immigrants”.
@@aldofromsf tell that to the Brits.
kardy12 needs to get some English class, LOL
@@aldofromsf they where migrating from the UK to Spain of course they are migrants no matter how else they wanna call themselve
@@tristanellinghoven6717
Agreed. My point is that expat and imigrant are not interchangeable. Point in case, working on a contract in country X makes you an expat; but not an immigrant in country X.
Expats are going back and forth between two counties without any restriction. Immigrants are not always able to do that.
I’ve lived in France for 20 years, pay my taxes here and am integrated into life here. No sympathy for those who have lived under the radar and who have not educated themselves on life after Brexit ..... it was clear, they just chose to believe it didn’t mean them!!!!!!
Totally agree, I've got no respect for anyone who moves to any country to get a lifestyle they want without fully integrating and contributing to their new country ... as someone in a similar situation I am amazed by the number of "ex-pats" who proudly tote their inability to speak the local language and who only integrate with other ex-pats...
I so agree with that. I find it abhorrant that anyone would choose to do otherwise. I'm a few years out from moving to France myself and expect to fully integrate.
I lived there for 2 years until 2019.I was fully aware that if I had to stay after Brexit I would have to get residency.People were constantly warned about this,so no sympathy whatsoever.
I mere 5 years to sort thier shit out hahaha
@@adamthomas7542 So a few uneducated prats have not sorted things out, so you think NO Brits have made their arrangements. You are as stupid as they are.
So sad oh dear never mind.
You've had *FIVE YEARS* have you not watched how EU PROTECTION RACKET treated UK
There are some people are so stupid and just blame other parties for their own stupidity. If you have been living in Spain for over five years and want to continue living there why do not you just apply for Spanish permanent residence and then continue with Spanish citizenship? Both Spain and UK allow dual nationalities.
That is actual what Spanish people living in the UK are doing. You pay for your own stupidity.
@@adiadindas So you believe this silly video.
95% of British people living in Spain have regularised their situation.
Perhaps we should find some Spanish people in Britain, who have not made the correct arrangements, and make a silly video about them, so that we can suggest it applies to ALL Spaniards.
If you live in Spain you need to apply for residency. You don’t give up your British citizenship, residencia is about registration. Paying your taxes in Spain
@@DJC75 There is no such thing as british exceptionalism. Expats are not welcome in Europe, but british immigrats are welcome if they comply to the rules, paying tax and health.
@Cian MacGana the reason there's no food shortages lies in the lack of controls at the UK border, nothing is checked so nothing is delayed or returned. The UK government didn't prepare for the situation and decided to just skip the formalities for the time being, the EU countries however did the work and can now happily confiscate ham sandwiches and the like as well as send lorries back that don't have the proper paperwork. 😉
@@DJC75 hate speech to who? France and Germany are full of Brits, what are you talking about
@Zockblatt Shickleblender you vote no for to be free but for to be alone
@Zockblatt Shickleblender you created your own prison
My heart bleeds for them. Only being allowed to holiday for 6 months. Nightmare.
YES... the party is over now in spain 😀😀😀
Problem being, they want to live a fully British life, but on a sunny coast... "When in Spain, do as the Spaniards do"
When you move to a foreign country to live, then you need to sign up to their system. I’m a resident in France and pay into the tax, healthcare systems etc. You can’t have it both ways. The same thing is happening here because people have never registered. Idiots.
And they blame the government, Brexit and others , rather than their own actions.
It is that way for anyone who goes to live in a foreign country. Make your choice.
@@tinaforbes1059 Exactly, a lot of it comes down to not wanting to pay into the system as the health care is very expensive, however when you need anything it is there instantly. There’s no waiting like the NHS. Always someone else’s fault.
@@tinaforbes1059, and above all, their ommissions.
me too, i live in the South of France, work, pay tax, have my Carte de Sejour, Carte Vitale, have a very good doctor and live in a small village where no one speaks English, i’ve had to totally intergrate, it was tough at the beginning, but i love the lifestyle here.
They've had almost 5 years to prepare!
...can't feel sorry for them.
@Neville McCormack Is English your first language? As what you wrote made no sense.
@@christopherflack7629 the problem is the brits still believe they are the chosen ones and rules don`t apply to them.
@Neville McCormack Still got the Germans, but yeah that will hurt a bit
Plus that many Brits in Spain actually voted for Brexit as well. Now they act surprised.
Those bitter about Brexit have missed the point.
The NWO creeping into being in front of your closed eyes will make sure that cheap holiday flights and unrestricted travel are a thing of the past.
Those economies reliant on tourism will feel it first , Spain, Greece , Italy and so on. Watch as Covid fear is turned into climate change fear.
They voted directly against their own interests, and then failed to apply for residency under the new arrangements. Just how stupid do you have to be do that?
It wasn't stupid. Salaries in UK rising due to lack of cheap immigration workers. Their currency is detached from the crashing Euro. So slowly their lifes are getting better, those negative side effects in the beginning will vanish over time.
@@dirkbecker2961 I don't think your comments bear any relevance to the actual issue in the news item, but is just a general unicorn comment on Brexit. The lack of workers is harming productivity in many sectors of the economy, despite wages rising in some areas, giving rise to the abnormal spike in inflation we are seeing as rising costs are passed on to customers. The Euro is not crashing, that is your fantasy. Just look at how Northern Ireland is prospering if you want to see the benefits of staying in the single market and the Customs Union. The lives of the UK citizens who ignored the need to register after Brexit are not getting better, but I would say to Prithi Patel she should prevent the return of these idle parasitic people to the UK if at all possible.
Who are they!!
No citizen that voted to get the UK out of the EU voted against their own interest. A complete new layer of government is silly when European countries could have done all the free trade and free movement, even the currency, without all the extra strings attached.
@@drawingdead9025 I think that is a pipe dream. Someone needs to tell you that free movement and a common currency require a common administration, even if free trade does not. Go and tell the United States that they don't even need a federal structure but can do all that they do without a government. I
f it was not believed by the UK citizens living in Spain that they had a right to live there and rather that they should be repatriated then indeed they did not vote against their own interests. And fishermen and farmers not to mention many others clearly did not vote in their own interests, even if they did not think so at the time.
Nobody in Sweden talk about leaving EU after Brexit. Thank you so much!!
When will Sweden adopt Euro?
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The same in Italy, thanks UK!
NO? Are you sure? I know plenty of Swedes who would vote to leave yesterday because Sweden has been taken over by migrants from the Middle East and Africa!
@@mateuszpapla2163you talk about the EU but you have not changed to the euro money .If you love the eu so much go right in and not half way.
I've lived here and applied through all the official channels and have all the relative paperwork. However the amount of Brits that didn't do the right thing is astounding and pretty ignorant and a great deal of them don't learn the language which is quite embarrassing
I have lived in Spain and now resident in another EU country. We were warned to apply for residency long before brexit. We were also told to get our vehicle registration, driving licences changed to the country we were resident in. The British Embassy kept us fully informed and provided numerous meeting for you to attend. However the attendance figures were shameful. Too many people decided to 'keep under the radar' especially with regard to health (NHS) and thought it would just blow over. I'm sorry but you had plenty of time to get your house in order.
I saw a lawyer and he sorted out everything for us, not hard to use common sense :o)
With all the b.s. in the press and the political wrangling over Brexit a lot of people probably just said ‘sod it all’ and buried their heads in the sand. Cheap sangria probably didn’t help either.
I am retired living in France. I receive my state pension here and pay French income tax on it. This gives me social and health cover. I applied for my residency card on-line as soon as the site was open and then quietly waited for my date to go and collect it. If I drove changing my license would have been as easy. I have my British passport meaning there is no limit on my travel destinations. So where is the problem?
@@dpnice7721 the problem is probably in the "have the cake and ate it" mentality of many... having to register for residency mean paying taxes and obeying locals rules... many probably didn't want to and even better, feared to have to pay the accumulated unpaid taxes if they regularized their situation...
Tough luck
My friend lives in Spain, He said he was warned about a Brexit win, He got the paperwork & filled it all in, No problems!
hold on. the very first person interviewed has been living in Malaga as a real estate agent for 4 years. that means she KNEW that brexit was gonna happen, just not in which form. she should be the last one to complain
I have been a Spanish resident for many years. Since long before brexit was talked about. I don’t understand the problem?!?!?!? Some folk need to dry their eyes
Bully for you. Did you also vote brexit to keep the rest of us out?
@@stephanguitar9778 😂😂😂 That's silly. It's the choices we make in life!
@@stephanguitar9778 I’d vote to keep you out...... lol wise up
Well said! Likewise Stephen, a Londoner here and have lived in Madrid since 2000, still have my British passport, as you know, get your green card or residencia as you aware, job done! Likewise, don't understand the issue? Well, if they have an issue they can go and get a tissue!
I've seen interviews with Brits living in Spain who voted to leave! They thought that being 'British' the rules wouldn't apply to them.
What were they thinking! I'm sure they are hurting now but I bet they blame Spain for all their troubles.
I suspect they did the paperwork unlike some stupid remain types.
@@dulls8475 dulls by name.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Makes it easy for you.
@@dulls8475 think you will find its the braindead brexiteers moaning buttercup
@@stevehaddon151 We have left petal.
Half of my family is British and from first hand experience a relative working for city planning in London told us how many people she came in contact with actually believed that "Brexit" meant that Non-British had to leave Britain, you know .... Brexit. It's in the name, isn't it. That sentiment and the misinformed casting their vote is very characteristic of this mess. And somehow I am not surprised that the very same people who, driven by xenophobia, voted for Brexit somehow feel unfairly treated that their status in a now foreign country is no longer the same as before.
When does the UK realises that it is a middling country with 70 million people heavily dependent on trade and commerce. Brits living abroad voted Brexit, farmers voted Brexit (depending on cheap labour and selling their produce to Europe), company owners whose livelihood depended on trading with Europe voted Brexit, regions that were subsidised with EU money voted "Leave". And then re-elected a mendacious PM who gave them the most radical version of Brexit despite the fact that he promised not to do that. Guys, you are not the victim here. Well, you are the victim of your own stupidity and gullibility. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
I think the English (and Welsh) electorate has given proof of its own stupidity rather than the British as a whole. Northern Ireland and Scotland voted Remain. England and Wales voted Leave. Racism is alive and well in England above all.
And that sum's up the stupidity of brexshit & those gullible people who voted for it. No sympathy.
I’m British and I totally support the Spanish no one should have to have the culture changed by mass immigration no matter where it is from
Same applied for the UK under the eu! 🇬🇧
Kind of what the EU is all about isn't it. If your an EU citizen you were a Spanish citizen. Now that UK is out they are no longer citizens.
You’re’ ‘with the Spanish’? What an odd thing to take away from that report. Sounds like you had you’re own very different sound track accompanying that video. I’d love to know what you think you just watched.
@@scottbarrie1303 yes,I thought the same thing. Some people can't out of the way of themselves.
We should all just stay in our villages and towns and never travel or talk or interact with anyone outside of said village or town. Such a stupid ducking take
And yet another "Boo hoo hoo, I'm a victim" non-story.
These people had several years to prepare or to take Spain citizenship but they waited it out and now they complain.
these people overwhelmingly voted for Brexit
Envy?
@@alicianieto2822 I'm not sure they did.
You do not have to give up citizenship you need residency (GREEN CARD), I am British and have lived in Madrid since 2000, these idiots have had since 2016 or before to get this done! They want their cake and want to it eat! TOTALLY AGREE Nico!!!!
Well! I am a EU citizen that lives in the U.K. I definitely didn’t vote for Brexit but I had to adapt to it. I work. I pay taxes. I am a resident and I had to register for settle status etc.. I have done all this before the U.K. left as I was told. How come none of these people prepared? Sense of entitlement..
It's the same for anyone living in another country. You register to live there, or agree to the 90 days stay!
"yeah! IMMIGRANTS, get out of my country!" - says a British ex-pat living in Malaga
My dream is living in Spain
The irony....
48% of British votes to remain.
No he has to pack up and leave - what irony.
🤣🤣
Can’t think of a community more deserving of this than the British
Oh I can, and not just one - several all living under the radar and not one is British!
I'm living here. You have to have money and pay your taxes. Many brits want a free ride
If your self sufficient and have a decent sum in the bank, health insurance is enough
I live in France. Working, paying hefty taxes and paying a mortgage. I agree with you....
There are too many Brits who simply sold up in the U.K. in order to retire at 55 or thought that the property market in the southern EU member states would enable them to have a slice of a similar property market back home, with rising values and the option of having a second home.
But the reality is a bunch of expats who do not speak the language and are not integrated. It is amazing how many of them think they can run guest houses and hotels ... or restaurants... with no past experience. And all of this to serve other Brits on holiday!
Surely not ? A free ride ? " But we're brits ... the world owe's us !"
@@glyntutt1586 very true ...
@@georgerobert4709 Speak for yourself.
Lived in Cyprus for 10 years prior to EU entry. Registered on arrival showing my pension, private healthcare insurance and rental agreement. Renewed each year and after a few years given a 5 year certificate then full one on EU entry. No issue if you take legal route even in Spain 🇪🇸.
@@jaytee7382 no, the rules are the same.
I was in Cyprus before EU and after EU. The only penefit I had in the EU, that I got my yellow slip for the rest of my life and didn't need working permite.
@@jaytee7382 another talking out of his arse , knowing nothing about it !
It is now just like almost everyone else in the world who would like to live abroad and integrate (!). Requires efforts.
This is the saddest story that I ever heard. You moved there, then integrate!
oh yea like all the immigrants in England have integrated . .
@@Headwind-1 They have done. They are all on the benefits register.
lol most Brits in Spain can’t speak a word of Spanish, integrating isn’t their forte
@@GuinessOriginal Most Brits in Spain are holidaymakers.
@@Headwind-1 lol. Then these brits shouldn’t complain about others not integrating in the uk, should they?
I love the way we call ourselves expat whenever we move overseas. An Englishman can NEVER be an immigrant don't you know dear boy.
But what's wrong with being called an immigrant, no big deal, it's the truth really isn't it.
Brian,uk,
Yeap ... i love it too... none can lie to themselves as well as the english, real world number ones
I believe the terminology is "colonist" when it's the British
The English were the original illegal immigrants to most countries around the world
@@cagedreptile TBF Most countries didn't exist at the time... BTW The Africans were the originals
Dont you just love the guy flashing his British passports and complaining about his son being designated a 'foreign student' if he goes to an English University. His son is more Spanish than British and permanently lives in Spain so
of course he would be a foreign student. These UK immigrants in Spain just won't assimilate there and we complain about immigrants here in the UK not assimilating
UK immigrants for the most part leave in their own sub communities of other British. They even plant their flag some times.
@@pedrorequio5515 But in almost every case they contribute to the local economy by buying a house, using local taxis, shopping in the local supermarkets, even running businesses or spending their pensions in Spain, so I don't really know what your problem is, immigrants that come to England in the main even though a lot of them work and pay taxes the benefits they receive housing benefit, working tax credits to top up their pay, child allowance etc, far outweigh the money they pay in, so I say on the whole the British people that live in Spain are a benefit not a drain on the working Spanish people.
Well said, you can’t have paella and eat it!!!lol
@@cmpillred277 its now becoming apparent that huge numbers of them are illegals, no tax, no NI, very dodgy.....
@@billpugh58 In Spain or the UK?
There was a story in The Guardian about Brits living in the EU who voted for Brexit. They quoted several of them who said basically the same thing “We didn’t think it would affect us.”
Idiots!
"I never thought leopards would eat MY face," whines person who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces Party.
Oh the irony. Lives in Spain and don’t speak a word of Spanish 😂
English stupidity at its Finest
Is that what you tell the Spanish in Latin America after hundreds of years and still unable to speak a native language. 🤔
It's crazy. And they vote for Brexit because they want to "control their own borders" and keep foreign EU workers from poorer eastern Europe out yet they think Spain should give them special treatment and let them live there after they decided to no longer be a part of the EU. Nope. You now get 90 days like every non EU tourist on a tourist visa.
@@ariefraiser140 you think 100% of the English voted Brexit. Do you not know it was 52% to 48%. Some people here are very angry that people voted brexit. Its broken up families this result.
@@grahamt5924 Did I say 100% voted for Brexit or was that something you said and tried to attribute it to me?
What is the problem? It’s no different for any country in EU, we are now foreigners in their country and must adore to their rules, the same as when they come to UK. Plus it’s not as if the EU has sprung it on you is it!!
Nobody really wants to go to the UK. Its a sad country , ive been there once nevet returning again brah
Adhere?
@@XmarlonXPT Good, we have enough people here who can't spell.
@@hywodnsu I just wish you guys leave Portugal also :,( we don’t need you guys
If I can’t spell and I’m spelling ok 95% of my words Imagine you fossil English in Portugal who can’t spell 5% that’s why you will sink down alone now
@@XmarlonXPT Well now you've just hurt my feelings. Don't forget that we are not in the EU now so we are all happy and content unlike some people who seem to be angry all the time.
And by the way, for someone whose youtube identity is "LifeisLight", which is English annoyingly for you, you should at least be able to find the full stop on your keyboard.
And no one needs to learn Portuguese unless you are Portuguese (or Brazilian to be fair).
P.S. I love Portugal, was there a few years ago and intend going back. It's beautiful and the people are kind and friendly. Shall we meet up for a pastel de nata?
They've lived on the cheap for years. Tough you chose to leave UK.
Jealous ?
Should have registered then.
@@susanslack6259 95% of Brits have made arrangements. So what´s your point ?
Not pay taxes anywhere
@@MultiLimpet Tell me how to do that.
The "Spanish Dream" for the Brits has been the "Brits Nightmare" for the Spanish for years! You deserve what you voted for
Yes..now only the rich britons can afford it..better for us
Leaving the EU actually means leaving the EU. Oh and expat means you're an immigrant. Specifically you're an economic immigrant.
They are panicking. My parents moved to Spain from the UK in the 1970's, before Spain joined the EU. (The UK was in the EU or EEC at this time.) They had to get a "Residencia". It was a bit of a faff but not too difficult. They obtained the "Residentia" and continued to live in Spain. This is exactly what you have to do now. No problemo!
No problema!
It's residencia and problema
Brits think that the rules only apply to other people . !
That is a (misspelt) gross over simplification. As 3rd country extranjeros, you now need private health insurance & a considerable lump sum in a Spanish account. For many that's prohibitive.
Well, since those days, the EU restrictions for Third Country immigrants (like the people from the UK, Tunisia or Egypt, to mention some of EU:s nearby neigbours) have got harder, partly because that the UK wanted them to be hard, when being a member of the EU.
Fewer drunk and loud British tourists. A Brexit success story
Ahh yes the loud “louts” that just about keep Spain above water.
Loud Wallets you forget £. Suppose Olives and Oranges will keep Spain going.
@@matthewharris9863 A few quid spent on booze and fish and chips doesnt support Spains economy. the brits dont spend anywhere near as much as the Germans in spain:)
@@billpugh58 you keep thinking that, mate.
@@billpugh58 you think the billions brought in by British tourists don't help the Spanish economy lol you must have a bachelors in economics right ???
Good riddance.
Most of them never bothered to mingle with the locals, basically recreating a little Britain around them.
But then, why did they leave their place?
The real title: "Illegal immigrants in Spain being deported back to their trailer parks". There! I fixed it.
They voted Brexit and they left the European Union. It is a respectable vote but now they must comply with the rules like any country that is not a member of Schengen nor the EU.
It's going hit the Spanish harder
@@deansoffe7250 It's a British democratic vote and thus we should respect that but some expats were not keen on the conditions and the time of Brexit and didn't reacted in time. It would happen the same to them no matter in which EU country they moved to. It's not a Spanish problem because that could happen in any EU state as well as in Spain. Will they eat paella and get tanned in Wales?
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 no I'm saying it will hit there economy hard, not having full time residents
@@deansoffe7250 As well as in other European countries. We can replace it with more germans or Scandinavians or Italians. The amazing thing is that some people didn't organized anything during the MORE than 4 years and a half after Brexit vote and now cry to the EU they don't belong anymore and to Boris Johnson to save their ass. As we say in Spain they were hit by the horn of the bull and did nothing to avoid it.
@@deansoffe7250 And again its nothing that can be done bilaterally btw the UK and Spanish goverments but via Bruxelles. So not our fault.
Who cares? Take citizenship.. Pay your way over there.
They want their cake and eat it.
So people who don´t have citizenship don´t pay their way ?
Plus isn’t dual citizenship a thing?
@Donald Brown Bingo.
agreed
Do you know what we call the British “ex-pats” here in Canada? Immigrants.
It's the same all over the world if anybody lives as a not naturally born native, they're all immigrants!
Can't see the fuss with this report, everybody new it was coming!
And lectures from a pot head 🤣🤣😂 hilarious!
Gracias , for saying the truth, saludos desde España .
😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼
If they wanted to stay living in Spain, they could have applied to remain. The fact they they haven't is their own choice. I'm English and live with my French wife here in England, she applied online for the right to remain, it took her a few minutes on the computer. If they wanted to stay in Spain they could have done the same.
For the guy with the son going to university, that’s not a “new” rule, and nothing to do with Brexit. If a student has not been resident in UK for the 3 years before starting university then they are classed as an overseas student regardless of their nationality / passport. Doesn’t stop him going to Uni, it just costs more.... a small downside of making the choice to enjoy an expat life in any country overseas, not just the EU.
Wow, that's a bit of a harsh rule. Live as a dependent with your parents who are working overseas. Then when you grow up you want to move back to Britain by yourself and go to university. Sounds reasonable, and not something to be financially punished for.
@@MrHarumakiSensei It’s been the rules for many years (maybe has always been that way?). Applied to both my kids when they went to university in UK. “Overseas student” fees approx 2 x the home student fees. Personally I don’t think it is unreasonable since expats don’t pay UK tax, so why should we benefit from taxpayer subsidies? I certainly didn’t complain at the extra fees. Happy to pay my fair contribution.
Expat life just don't exist legally in the foreign country where you live. You are tourist, resident or immigrant, each with a different legal status. Plain simple.
I thought it was your dream to live in Spain. Make your mind up, and take out residency. You chose, no one forced you.
@@CandiceGoddard What utter rubbish.
These people spend their hard earned money in Spain, and does Spain need them, Yes indeed. Spain will be a lot worse off without them.
@@yvonnehaley8 hahahahhaha we dont need that kind of people, is like 1% of tourism we can get in my country, that happen only to stupid people ,laws are equal for all being white or not so they get brexit in the face .Retunr to Your island.
@@lobetano864 I agree with you but make residency a little easier, better for everyone.
Residency for 3 months, don't think so.
Spanish teacher in England: Inmigrant. English teacher in Spain: Expat. Retired Brit in Spain: Sunny eager. Retired Spanish in Britain: "Error. Not computable". 🤣
If you have been living/staying in spain or any other EU country for more than 90/180 days without registering then you have been illegally defrauding the country of its taxes and dues. Be happy for the time you got away with it.
Not onley cheating the spanish coverment but also the uk pension if you live in certain countries you must imform the uk pension so they can reduce your pension and you get no increases like they have with me i lost 25 pound a week over these last 7 years mind you thats what i got for being honest
I´m sorry for the people impacted, but I´m happy for the young Spanish people that now will have a chance of buying a home in the places they were born, instead of forced out by the rich 5% from abroad inflating the prices of housing.
There no jobs in Spain that why the UK has a large Migrant population from South America via Spain
@@chbry1050 Uk´s latin American population has little to do with Spain, unless you refer to ti racially not nationally. UK does have a high population of Spanairds working there because there are not qualified jobs with decent salaries, yes.
@@alicianieto2822 Yes they do; Spain colonised a lot of Latin America so many got their citizenship in Spain; left Spain to come to live in UK as there no work in Spain; we also have the mixed marriage children who gain EU passport via their Spanish or European parents. So instead of living in Spain, Italy and Portugal they live in the UK thus 6 millions EU not including their non EU partners
@Michael Surofski partially true. I disagree with some parts but Indeed a big chunk of the real state bubble was based on that. I woudn´t place blame on US banks here though
@@chbry1050 People from South America tend to go to Spain, Italy and France.
NEVER to the Uk, because of the horrible food, horrible landscape, shitty weather, strange language, alcoholism, shootings and stabbings and all that shite. All due respect OF COURSE
5 years to decide what to do.
I feel so sorry for them ... This simply was not enough notice it's shameful!
😁😁😁😁😁
We voted in June 2016 to leave the EU. How much time did they want??
Serves them right. Brexit means Brexit.
I don't feel sorry for them, welcome to the real world. We have to follow the rules so should they. They are immigrants not expats.
Perhaps we don't want them back I certainly don't.
so many spanish in London i wish they would go back to shitty spain
@@UKchronics If all the Brits who emigrated to Spain returned to the UK, you would end up with even more unwanted people in your shitty Britain
@@jimmysavage9061 More than 800.000 brittons , elderly and ill , pure class.
@@joaquincastello6174 🤣🤣
@@UKchronics I know you basically have to learn Spanish to go around our capital city these days... and they moan constantly about us. The Spanish in London maybe young but they’re just a bunch of barmen and waitresses anyway! Lol 😂
"Booohoohoo my family is still there, i will never see them again..." Come on... And btw it is exactly the same for continental people living in the UK, therefore It wasn't a surprise for anyone. Just register on time.
Why are the British in Spain called "expats" while the Indians in the UK called "immigrants"? Use the correct word! British immigrants!
Some here: Brits will no longer buy properties in Spain and thus bringing all that money there.
Today in some Spanish media: the real estate market is going through a huge volume of transactions not seen since the financial crisis in 2008
Some go and some come. It seems that nobody is indispensable and Spain will do just fine. You won, get over it
Enjoy the downturn in the shops and custom from the british!
All ready most spanish companies rely on tourism partially- with the british leaving, or onlyvstaying part time, it will hit the local buisinesses in the pocket..
Let it go son- it’s eating you alive 👍 it’s over, we are out- move on...
@@jonathansimmons5353 the British will just get replaced by tourists or immigrants from other countries. Russians are investing heavily in Spain.
@@jonathansimmons5353 I’m just pointing to some facts sir. Don’t shoot the messenger. All tourists are welcome, including Brits. I was referring specifically to comments in this thread arguing about the collapse of the Spanish RE market given that the Brits are (allegedly) no longer buying. Simultaneously this news about record transactions in the RE market appeared in the media. I’m not inventing it. Take it as you wish
They have had 4 years notice stop crying its your own choice leave or follow rules
Choice is something the Brexit gang want to outlaw.
Probably the same type of folks who go on about how wonderful it is abroad,how much better the weather,wine,food,health service etc etc.
Rubbing it in to us here in the UK.
Well you had it good so come home for become European by citizenship.
They had plenty of time to organise their status.
Funny how when they talk about Spanish people in UK they are called "immigrants" but British people in Spain call themselves "expats"
Lived here in spain for 18 years , have been a resident for 17 of those years and understood the rules of brexit from the outset . Brits that are whinging have had plenty of time and notice to put their spain plan into action so no sympathy from me
You went to live in Spain you cant have it both ways, take out Citizenship stay in Spain.
That’s the issue, many expats have never bothered to register!
Shame they don't do the same here in UK...way to many of you over here 😄
@@denismclean5225 yeah never bothered to register , never pay any income taxes when they rent out their home in the summer , we want all the benefits without any downside .
Brits would like to eat a cookie and have a cookie .....
@@zbigniewsiarkiewicz438 the e u was fine until 2004
If I moved to Spain it would be because I admired the Spanish culture. I'd learn Spanish language, history and traditions and try to be Spanish.
I'd support Spanish national football unless they were playing England or Ireland.
Respect your new nationality. It's what you should do if you emigrate.
I do that
same. I actually speak Spanish (and some Catalan and Portuguese as well as French). Decided not to move there though given what has happened.
their nationality doesn't change because they move country and which "foolsball team" they support doesn't matter... but learn the language, respect THEIR culture and tradtions, you can keep your own, adopt some/all of theirs, mix n match all you want, don't be a burden, don't be a criminal and be respectful and polite to the citizens of the country of choice... simple as that
@@nflynn yeah I am not english... I am proud to be danish and white and well okay not proud of balding, but I will be danish if I live in the UK, in Sahara or in Australia, I will always BE danish... but that doesn't stop me from being a citizen other places, respecting their culture, maybe even adopting some of their culture and merging with my own, and I would do my best to learn the language, which in the end will make me a complete human, living where ever I live.
If you move to another country, you should try and integrate into their culture, not bring your religion and barbaric Laws to a country you want to stay in. If you commit terrorism, crime, you should be Deported along with all your family with no chance of return. If you adopt a country you go by that countries Laws, full stop.
Nice the prices are good. As a German I’m going to by a nice cheap house for my parents in Spain. The British are selling sometimes at a ridiculous cheap price.
I am sorry for you mate. Everything is getting expensive .The sale of homes soared 25.6% in the month of March compared to the same period in 2021. Thus, it adds up to 59,272 operations. This is its highest figure since January 2008 -in the middle of the real estate bubble- and its best data in a month of March since 2007. At that time, there were more than 74,000 sales.
These are data from the National Institute of Statistics (INE) that also show that the number of transmitted farms registered in the property registers, which come from public deeds carried out previously, was 227,773 in the month of March.
Everything is up in Spain.
When you vote for something, not knowing how it would affect you. Smart!
This is such a non story, if you want to live in Spain take out citizenship stop moaning.
@Zefram Cochrane as long as they meet the criteria for citizenship then yes. Different criteria for different countries. My wife is a filipina its nearly impossible become a citizen of the Philippines.
@Zefram Cochrane Where is here? Refugees are allowed to stay in the EU country they first arrive in. They Brits in the article have had years to apply for citizenship, I would imagine its the same for the UK but not automatic.
@Zefram Cochrane They are not refugees. They are economic migrants.
Send them all back to England, spring cleaning 😂
It for tat
Ok, so the director of this UK style college in Malaga is saying that chemicals for teaching cannot be sourced in the EU? How do EU schools manage?
Is she teaching to an English curriculum for English exams? In that case it might be most convenient to use English suppliers. That would only make sense if her students were English kids coming for a holiday. There are similar colleges in tourist resorts for American kids, but it's probably not as cheap for them as staying at home.
@@faithlesshound5621 huh? Don't see the logic in your post. An English teacher in Spain teaching to English students needs to order his chemicals in the UK because they are teaching in English curriculum? Do chemicals speak English?
@@ab-ym3bf There's no NEED there. It would have been CONVENIENT if the seller packaged his products to suit a particular syllabus or textbook, especially since colleges may not need industrial quantities of chemicals for classroom use.
british chemicals are much better 😂
Even when they choose to life in EU, they still are Brit.
Not taking sides, surely if one emigrates to another country, then one should speak the Language, respect its Laws and orders and blend in with the culture , one cannot carry on as if one is still at home?
I remember the night after the referendum, being in the pub. A guy was going mad and cursing all leave voters like me. 'I'm retiring to Spain, and this is going to cost me £50,000'. My reply: "Oh dear, if only I'd known ".
@@ezicarus8216 Keep out of this. Adults talking.
@@shirleymental4189 Good morning, I'm interested to know what your main reasons for supporting leaving the EU is. I'm not here to argue or anything but simply to learn, when the referendum happened I was too young to vote in it, however we did hold a vote at school as a kind of experiment, and around 80 percent of the students voted to remain, in my constituency also, the majority voted to remain. I was mainly concerned about my future ability to live and work in the EU freely, as well as my ability to study as I am a student of Spanish and my girlfriend is German. The UK has pulled out of the Erasmus scheme and replaced it with the Turing scheme, which would make it incredibly difficult for me to do a year abroad without paying a lot of money and going through complicated processes, which would be difficult for me as I come from a low income family. I was also concerned about living with my girlfriend as this would prove difficult after Brexit. I was also concerned about my childhood friends who I grew up around, many from Poland and worried about their status after Brexit, and the healthcare workers as well who come from a wide array of nationalities. Brexit has also had the unforeseen consequence of creating a rift between Scotland and England, and the majority of them vote for the Scottish National Party. Brexit has not made my life better in any way, however it may hinder my prospects in the future. I'm sure people had reasons for voting for Brexit, but please can I have some from you?
@@samuelross8328 Nice post
At least you have no polish nor europeans people anymore unless they get the visa card.... And we spaniards not have any britts also anymore unles they get the residencia card. Who wins?.I guess Europe. You voted to leave cause you are a racist person , but the britts didn´t expect thet Europe turned up as a racist club againts the anglosaxons. No point to the uk be back to the EU.... I do not think, in a european referendum in order to let the britts to enter again ,people would vote the yes box.
the clue is in the passage ''chose to live is Spain ''' until you need the NHS ....take up Spanish citizenship....you had enough notice ...stop moaning......... ''living the dream '' my arse....
'chose to live in Spain' Yep, did that.
'until you need the NHS'. Nope, I have full access to the Spanish health service
'take up Spanish citizenship' Nope, Residency is all that's required
'you had enough notice' Yep. Knew exactly what would be required, and when... we're not all dumb
'stop moaning' Who's moaning. I'm exactly where I want to be, thanks.
'living the dream' 100%... You can take your racist, bigoted, self-entitled litte sunless sh**hole, and shove it where the sun don't shine.
@@markohenry5891 Much as you'd like to sweep the undeniable racism factor within the Leave turn out under a big carpet, you need reminding that brexit wasn't really about 'sovereignty', bendy bananas or blue passports. The driving issue for the majority was neighbours who didn't speak English as a 1st language... or 'rascism' as I call it
@@gjaxx Congratulations on a nonsensical and bigoted comment.
@@markohenry5891 What's your black lady's name... Wouldn't be Karen, would it? Are you actually saying that black people can't be racist? Sounds very much to me that your black lady friend IS. She ACTUALLY left a restaurant because the staff spoke poor English... Seriously? Have a word with yourself...and her
@@markohenry5891 There's nothing quite like pompous indignation when you get shown up for what you truly are. Is there? You, and your 'black lady friend... Karen' are racist through and through and try to disguise said racism behind concerns for 'numbers coming into our small island' and 'It's not that I mind them... I just wish they'd speak proper English'.
"we cannot get the products to teach chemistry" you mean nowhere else in spain they teach chemistry? BS
Typical British, thinking every country other than their own have inferior products and infrastructure. Maybe best you go back to the UK and teach chemistry there.
That's unbelievably arrogant for sure!
This is a demonstration of to maintain a way of thinking that could be correct five decades ago.
Most the drugs in British pharmacies are made in Spain lol
@@alfsmith4936 they’re not actually they’re made in India. Thicko Spaniard
And no one even mentions that if you still have an English driving licence you will have it revoked and have to sit the full Spanish driving test. Imagine doing that in your 60s or 70s.
"You will have it revoked"??
Don't know where you heard that.
Passed my test back in the eighties (in the UK, when there was only a practical exam!).
I drive with a Spanish licence, and didn't have to take any test!
All my groups validated, even the ones the Spanish don't get for just passing a car test!
You must have exchanged your licence before Brexit. Since January any new residents and existing ones who never registered have to sit a full Theory and Practical exam if they want a Spanish Licence. Gov Website.
However last month UK have informed us on their website that they are now in discussions for UK citizens who reside in Spain to forgoe the Spanish Test and just exchange their licence.
I am holding my breath as I have held a full UK licence since 1972 and am moving out to Spain next month.
When I say revoked I should have maybe used another word as at this moment of writing you can only drive on a UK licence for 6 months from start of residency before you have to exchange it for a Spanish one.
Pray they don't force us to sit two tests as I couldn't hack it.
@@igotafeelin I swapped mine a long time ago.
Stop fueling the British exceptionalism by calling them expats. They‘re British immigrants. Expatriates or expats is a business term that describes workers with highly specific skills or leadership skills who are temporarily send to a businesses branch in another country.
This term only applies to very very few of the British immigrants in Spain.
They have had 4 years to sort it out and become Spanish citizen its their own fault if their too lazy to sort it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😏🙄
Yeah or duel citizenship,
@@kriscolereid I did and I have no problems with Brexit!😉
@@chucks6781 Do you know how to punctuate or type in lower case ?
Depends if Spain allows dual citizenship? The UK does, but some countries expect you to only have theirs, such as Germany.
@@mazzer37 Not true. I live in Germany and have dual citizenship since last July.
We moved here 3 years ago and knew we needed residency and Spanish driving licence because of brexit , so we done it in our first year simple 🤷♂️
Regardless of Brexit! If you move to a other country and plan to stay, You need to register. It's a requirement. Those who lived there without being registered have been found out because of Brexit. BUT they were illegally living in Spain!
For the uninformed, replace"expat" with"immigrants" and you'll understand everything... 😂😂😂😂
"Economic".
That is tough for ones who bought holiday homes, but it was their choice. All the others who live there full time should have been registered as residents any way and if they had not bothered then it serves them right if they are kicked out!
This is a none story if you want to stay long time you should have got residency. If you are working in the UK why would you want to do more than 90 days every 6 months?
How, when this is what many were saving and planning for years ahead form now, and what about covid travel restrictions for the last year?
@@stephanguitar9778 its not as though no one knew. from june 2016 this was going to happen.
@@johngallant7341 Except that not all of us were in a position to do so. Not all of us had the money or time 4 or 5 years ago or even 6 months ago.
@@stephanguitar9778 bet you voted leave! or not at all, no money, no time , next you`ll be telling us is you old and disabeled, stop wining and get a life in the UK preferibly. if the spelling is wrong i`sooooo sorry.
@@stephanguitar9778 the worlds a big place if you want to retire to the sun there are plenty of countries to choose from outside the EU. I will probably retire to the Philippines myself but you meet Brits who have settled down all over the world. What makes Spain so special?
I live In Bulgaria, and have residency. No problems.
khankrum Same for me. I have lived in Malta for 11 years and last year I applied for permanent residency, which was no problem. Surely it's the same for British immigrants to Spain.
@Carl Carter He is giving you a tip how help yourself
@@pascalfl2610 A lot of British people in Bulgaria I was travelling yearly their with a friend who has property out their for holiday use and cheaper cost of living the Bulgarians are friendly and the £ goes a long way as they dont use the € better than Spain .
@@clearlake3492 It is.. These people didn't want to lose their benefits, which is funny as most of them spend all their time complaining about people in England living on benefits lol.
@@alfsmith4936 "Benefits ?" Moron.
Spain must be so happy to get rid of the rough
Imagine how nice it would be if we could all just get along and you could just go back and forth to any country?
But we cant have that bechause after all how our country will prosper if the most brighter and highly educated people of our nation decided to move to other country bechause of small thing like better living quality or better paying job like imagine that happenening in your country ugh
Ironic
Why are they complaining about tourism, aren't they aware that we've been locked down for the last year?
We've had 5 million people from the EU apply for permenant residency, why can't British do the same in Spain? This seems like a BS story
because the brits think they don`t need to. not now not never, think they are superior,
@@eddiede8691 you are just full of hate,with that hysterical ridiculous comment
Because they are british who feel entitled to everything ??
@@jdlc903 stop your silly full of hate argument when someone expresses and opinion... by intoducing full of hate you dimiss the argument. Very cheap tricks only for brits. Real smart people dont fall for such cheap chit chat. Go back and have a cup of tea. Leave important things for the queen... she is your priest.
@@noneinparticular2338 what else are you then -a hyperventilating hysterical crybaby -full of hate
"They think they are entitled, damn British ppl" cry harder cry baby
Oh the winds have changed🤔. Isn't that a famous quote from one of their own? Either way, they can always return to their country if origin - am sure they'll be fine.
Some British people in Spain have sought to officially become Spanish citizens. Fair enough - at least they truly love Spain and are serious about their commitment in living there. Also, that way they are entitled to health care. I have never liked those British people who want to live in Spain but can’t or won’t integrate with Spanish people.
They've had plenty of time to put things in place but have failed to comply.
Me and other met in Spanish class managed to get settled status last year, the Spanish authorities were extremely helpful. Good riddance 🥳
They could have applied for citizenship. Stay or leave, can’t have it both ways.
Then they will leave Britain and work elsewhere
Well until Brexit they did have it both ways.
It isn't easy to obtain citizenship.
Having been there for a long time doesn't entitle someone to get citizenship.
They can stay as foreign residents as well, but then they will have to pay their taxes, especially contribute to the Spanish health care system. There is no free lunch.
@De Factio Funny because when the EU apply the 'law' the brexiters keep claiming that they're being bullied.
The dear Brits, formerly valued EU citizens, are now foreigners from an EU perspective. This means that the former expat has become a current immigrant. The British need to know the image immigrants have in many countries. You now have the opportunity to get to know this feeling.
Oh the plight of the poor property owners! I sure hope they survive the calamity of selling an asset
This is hilarious really 🤣
Which part of Brexit does the Brits don't understand
Your not a member of the club anymore
What happens when you are not a member
No member privileges
You have the benefit of having learnt to write in English. Now learn English grammar and spelling.
@@jonniebyford Brits have had the benefit to become undeservedly rich when UK was a member state, but the toffenoses never attempted to learn any of the European languages, did they?
We understand the bit we're we no longer have to subsidies EU countries by paying them 32 billion pounds a year membership fee! Maybe you could explain to French fishermen how this works because they dont seem to understand it either!
Trouble is they left England .It was there choice.
Apply to be Spanish.
Lets be fair England is a country that most uk residents would want to leave
Actually the trouble is everyone else in the EU still has the liberty to live, work, settle and travel throughout an amazing continent without the extra expense and bureaucracy Brexit has bestowed.
Apart from the total idiocy of voting away opportunities, what a mediocre and boring outlook Brexit is.
@@user-ei3dq2dw6i why ? Because Hal’s of Europe wants to live in UK ??
"their" choice.
@@olibranchoharadedog5886 were such idiots with vaccines! Lol 😂
The British do the same to the EU people on arrivals with questions etc...
Not true. Sales are increasing
Oh such tough times.
Hello
When you say EX-PAT you mean IMMIGRANT right?
What an original comment. Absolutely nobody has posted that before. How clever you are !
He is still right. Brits are immigrants deal with it
Yes.
Ni , I mean EX PATS..... they had the funds to move.... And not live on Spanish tax payers money...
@@luissampaio3928 they had the funds to move.... And not live on Spanish tax payers money... so can be considered EX PATS... deal with it....
Don't understand the issue. You can use your house as a holiday house a good chunk of the year and you can apply to be a resident.
That real estate woman. Are you sure she is an ex pat? She just spoke to that waiter in Spanish, rather than shouting at him slowly in English!
The title is incorrect & misleading.
You don't see much of these ex pat's in wheelchairs they're having a good time retired early live in a English bubble eating fish and chips on top of that they wanted to vote during Brexit because they wanted to live in sunny Spain while having all the benefits ,fat chance of that they had no right to vote also they should learn the language of the country they reside in .don't feel sorry .
@Chase A : Your comment is as pathetic as your punctuation.
I'm English, and I couldn't agree more.
@@peterwest5525 touched a cord eh ?
@@chasea7595 You can´t spell, either. You don´t even know your own language.
@@peterwest5525 I'm no Brit but I'm doing fine with my writing .now let's spell expatsssssss.
Isn’t rebuilding a barrier aroung the British isles wonderful? Such a well thought-out plan that it keeps on backfiring on Brits.
We've already started sold up & moved back to the UK & not a moment to soon regarding the virus.
Thankfully there was no British varient. Thankfully the UK didn't have a lockdown. Thankfully the UK listened to the scientific community and used the vaccine the way it was researched. Thankfully the UK didn't have a covid crisis.
Ohhhhhh wait ?????
@@peppersghosttheater I love sarcasm, it's such a fine art.