I thought it was the other way around - that when the company that owns Behringer bought Midas, they used the tech to create a budget hardware unit called the X32.
I have owned the x32 for about 3 years and the m32 a little less than a year now i am glad that i have upgraded,although if i had the money id spend 75k on a api console for recording,because thats what i use mine for. a year of use on the m32 in the studio it still looks liek i got it out of the box this thing will last a lifetime..hopefully. and i got mine new for 3300...shop around!
I use the M32 at our local theatre to mix live bands, theatre companies etc, and I have also used the x32 for smaller shows. One needs to remember if price is a concern that unless you have high end speakers like meyer or other concert level gear the x32 will be just fine and I honestly wouldn't buy a 5000 dollar console to run into mid level speakers
honestly 96khz vs 44.1/48khz is easily worth the $2,000 difference... guys its a MIDAS console for $5,000, if you said that two years ago people would think your nuts
I have both..They both spec out identical. The Midas board feels and looks better IMHO but as for sound?, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference in a blind shoot out. I guess the name "Midas" is worth an extra 2K to some, personally I would recommend to get the X32 and a X32 Rack as backup for the price of the Midas..:)
I used an X32 for 6 months (3 - 5 days/week) a couple years ago and had to take it apart twice to do minor hardware repairs. I doubt I would have had to do that with the Midas.
Great Vid. How durable is the console?? Can it survive extreme heat on outdoor shows? Can it survive wonky electrical supply?? Can it survive being used as a rental console?? How visible is the screen with direct sunlight??
No update on the drivers, it does not work with windows 10 o latest mac os, and they don't mention this on their website, I had it for two weeks, and did not work, it looks great, but is a split 16-16 , now I'm happy with Presonus studio live iii 32 input/faders. working right out of the box.
How do you lockout/Restrict band members from have access to their individual in-ear monitor mix 'BUS' so they can only access their own mix and not mess with the other parts of the console/Mix on the X32/M32 Mix app?
Yeah I hear you! :-D Our church purchased this console this past November and we love it! Just started to get into the effects of the console and how they sound with our worship band.
I turned on my midas M32 and I cant get any input signal on any of the channels, it worked the last time I shut it off, any ideas? ive tried everything I can think of, maybe the mixer is kaput?
I'm very confused!! Behringer Tutorials on UA-cam their saying the x32 come with Midas preamps! Here you say they do not! Can you please clarify this please...
The X32 Use Midas preamps (not the Pro version), the Midas M32 Uses Midas preamps PRO version. The difference is that Midas uses the Pro version and Behringer does not.
Guys I know a lot of these features he's talking about seem child like. But at least he covered these issues. If you want a more intricate review then simply click on another video lol. I personally enjoy the fact that he covered such issues head to head with the X32. These two boards are the main rivals of each other, so the basics need to be covered as well. Also to be a bit more uppity (haha); if you're running a studio in which you work with artists the M32 will not only help you out tremendously in better visual style, but also in better sound. I don't know about you, but I tend to make better music when I'm inspired somewhat by the gear I'm using. It's not my main source of inspiration at all, but it does come into play. If I were to walk into a studio and see an oversized flat surfaced mixer that has the same visual features as those back in the late 90's (multitrack recorders), I would be less inspired on the technical side. If I were to walk into a studio and see the M32, I would think to myself "hell yea, I can't wait to get my hands on this thing to see what masterpiece I can create!"
Depends on how u want to use it. But its really a waste to not use this for live sound as it was intended. You can use it just as a control surface to control the faders in the DAW. IN that case you're using it as a $5000.00 mouse... Or you can track audio through it and mix like an old neve console. In that case you're only sampling at 48k At 16bit versus going through a typical 300.00 and up audio interface which can sample at 96k or 192k... At 24bit. The other major disadvantage would be you'd be feeding your DAW a 2 bus stereo mix so u basically gave up all your ability to edit the audio after or apply plugins... The 3rd option is to use it as a audio interface. Major advantage is you can do multi track recording via the USB ports you also have 32 inputs which is a huge deal. The drawback again is the sampling rate. 48k, is just not good enough to be competative in today's music market... So to answer your question yes you can do it but that would really be a waste of an amazing console. Why would you spend 5000.00 to tie your hands behind your back.
So... The faders move slightly differently but still competent, the case is angled in the middle but it's the pre's are different... I put it out there that the main difference is the name alone. Brand snobbery!!!
Every review i watch on the Midas M32 their always throwing jabs at the X32. Chevy vs Cadillac really?? lol they run the same software Behringers software might i add. $2000 for looks No thanks lol.
One of the more informative videos on UA-cam. This was very helpful in my decision making. Thank you
Mike Radliff So you went with DiGiCo? or you went with model PRO1?
I thought it was the other way around - that when the company that owns Behringer bought Midas, they used the tech to create a budget hardware unit called the X32.
I have owned the x32 for about 3 years and the m32 a little less than a year now i am glad that i have upgraded,although if i had the money id spend 75k on a api console for recording,because thats what i use mine for. a year of use on the m32 in the studio it still looks liek i got it out of the box this thing will last a lifetime..hopefully. and i got mine new for 3300...shop around!
Jonathan Kosyjana if interested in selling the x32 let me know
I use the M32 at our local theatre to mix live bands, theatre companies etc, and I have also used the x32 for smaller shows. One needs to remember if price is a concern that unless you have high end speakers like meyer or other concert level gear the x32 will be just fine and I honestly wouldn't buy a 5000 dollar console to run into mid level speakers
honestly 96khz vs 44.1/48khz is easily worth the $2,000 difference... guys its a MIDAS console for $5,000, if you said that two years ago people would think your nuts
Nope
Great comparison of the two.
When he says the Midas will withstand more, he's not joking. They're tanks.
I have both..They both spec out identical. The Midas board feels and looks better IMHO but as for sound?, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference in a blind shoot out. I guess the name "Midas" is worth an extra 2K to some, personally I would recommend to get the X32 and a X32 Rack as backup for the price of the Midas..:)
agreed
I used an X32 for 6 months (3 - 5 days/week) a couple years ago and had to take it apart twice to do minor hardware repairs. I doubt I would have had to do that with the Midas.
Great Vid. How durable is the console?? Can it survive extreme heat on outdoor shows? Can it survive wonky electrical supply?? Can it survive being used as a rental console?? How visible is the screen with direct sunlight??
thanks for your honesty
No problem!
No update on the drivers, it does not work with windows 10 o latest mac os, and they don't mention this on their website, I had it for two weeks, and did not work, it looks great, but is a split 16-16 , now I'm happy with Presonus studio live iii 32 input/faders. working right out of the box.
M32 is Best I love it
How do you lockout/Restrict band members from have access to their individual in-ear monitor mix 'BUS' so they can only access their own mix and not mess with the other parts of the console/Mix on the X32/M32 Mix app?
My church just purchased this the Midas M32 and love it
Yeah I hear you! :-D Our church purchased this console this past November and we love it! Just started to get into the effects of the console and how they sound with our worship band.
do you know if they will be introducing a firewire/thunderbolt expansion ... instead of USB 2.0 in the near future?
I turned on my midas M32 and I cant get any input signal on any of the channels, it worked the last time I shut it off, any ideas? ive tried everything I can think of, maybe the mixer is kaput?
128 kHz 24 bit vs 44khz 24 bit also..
Do the faders control voltage? Aren't they just digital encoders?
deetgeluid Yes, they're voltage dividers and the control voltage is fed into an ADC so that DSP can know where the fader currently is.
I'm very confused!! Behringer Tutorials on UA-cam their saying the x32 come with Midas preamps! Here you say they do not! Can you please clarify this please...
The X32 has Midas designed preamps while the M32 preamps are supposed to be the actual ones used in the Midas Pro Series consoles.
The X32 Use Midas preamps (not the Pro version), the Midas M32 Uses Midas preamps PRO version. The difference is that Midas uses the Pro version and Behringer does not.
Will the midas faders last longer before getting worn and causing problems? I have read that some X32's are already having fader problems.
probably, midas faders are supposed to last for over a million cycles. can't find stuff for the x32
wat is the software which is used to control the midas m32 mixer through mobile phone or tab . can u send me the link .
Enoch Enoch there’s a thing called google.
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Can I use this for a recording studio?
Yes you can. It has a USB audio interface and can control DAWs with Mackie Control protocol.
Guys I know a lot of these features he's talking about seem child like. But at least he covered these issues. If you want a more intricate review then simply click on another video lol. I personally enjoy the fact that he covered such issues head to head with the X32. These two boards are the main rivals of each other, so the basics need to be covered as well. Also to be a bit more uppity (haha); if you're running a studio in which you work with artists the M32 will not only help you out tremendously in better visual style, but also in better sound. I don't know about you, but I tend to make better music when I'm inspired somewhat by the gear I'm using. It's not my main source of inspiration at all, but it does come into play. If I were to walk into a studio and see an oversized flat surfaced mixer that has the same visual features as those back in the late 90's (multitrack recorders), I would be less inspired on the technical side. If I were to walk into a studio and see the M32, I would think to myself "hell yea, I can't wait to get my hands on this thing to see what masterpiece I can create!"
Does it have noise specs that are proper for recording studio permanent set up?
Depends on how u want to use it. But its really a waste to not use this for live sound as it was intended.
You can use it just as a control surface to control the faders in the DAW. IN that case you're using it as a $5000.00 mouse...
Or you can track audio through it and mix like an old neve console.
In that case you're only sampling at 48k At 16bit versus going through a typical 300.00 and up audio interface which can sample at 96k or 192k... At 24bit.
The other major disadvantage would be you'd be feeding your DAW a 2 bus stereo mix so u basically gave up all your ability to edit the audio after or apply plugins...
The 3rd option is to use it as a audio interface. Major advantage is you can do multi track recording via the USB ports you also have 32 inputs which is a huge deal.
The drawback again is the sampling rate. 48k, is just not good enough to be competative in today's music market...
So to answer your question yes you can do it but that would really be a waste of an amazing console.
Why would you spend 5000.00 to tie your hands behind your back.
Yes... But 2000.00 more?
Ironically, It turns out the faders are the worst part of the M32 mixer, so easy to get into problems.
So... The faders move slightly differently but still competent, the case is angled in the middle but it's the pre's are different... I put it out there that the main difference is the name alone. Brand snobbery!!!
THanks i think So
not really you can hear the difference in the pre amps I have an x32 but the m32 is the better desk
"Designed by the people that design Bently automobiles." Is that true!?
Only the Chasis.
That's cool. More consoles should do that... have special editions that are designed by... designers.
Every review i watch on the Midas M32 their always throwing jabs at the X32. Chevy vs Cadillac really?? lol they run the same software Behringers software might i add. $2000 for looks No thanks lol.
+Vas Champion The preamps.
It's a Ferrari built on top of a Prius. I'll pass.
Nic Neufeld Well a bentley designer designed the M32 so you could say it’s a continental gt vs a prius.
Turned off video after 25 seconds. Do not need my time wasted with hype and talking to me like I am a 3 year old.
Maybe you should not act like a 3 year old then :D
Snoo Lee Then why are you watching a video about a console that is designed for amateur audio setups?
Lol bit late here but yep, his concentration lasted 25 seconds.....much like a three year old