Hey Friends! This video shows how I set up a basic start file on a Midas M32R. This shows basic channel assignment, effects, high pass filters, and DCAs. Enjoy!
This is a great video. Something I wanted to drop a line about is at 11:52 you say, "I don't know why you would send yours prefader..." A lot of times in smaller spaces, I will send drums pre fader to FX because the natural sound of the drums in the room is already loud enough and does not need any reinforcement. This way I can get a reverb tail on the snare drum without making the snare any louder in the main...hence all wet and no dry in the mains.
I'm very familiar with the Allen and Heath, Presonus, Soundcraft, Yamaha, and rack-mounted Behringer consoles - but in a few weeks, I'm going to be filling in for a sound engineer at a venue that uses an M32R - and I've never had a chance to mess around with one! The closest I came was this summer when I mixed a magic show on an X32 - and there were a few things (channel naming, the mono channel, and "sends on faders") that initially tripped me up. I've been binging all your videos and it's probably the best content out there on the console! Thank you! Initially, I came into your videos knowing there were only a handful of things I needed to figure out, but in the process I've learned so many little tips and tricks that will make the shows a breeze. There's also been a few things along the way that have been really affirming - for instance, I always do some dramatic EQing to tighten up the subs. I rarely see people do that - and it's so nice to see that I'm not alone! I'm shadowing the engineer next time there's a show - so between that experience and your videos, I should be prepared. Twoish questions, though: I've got a basic show file laid out the way I like to usually work in the M32 Edit app. Will I be able to easily sync that show file with the console over the WiFi connection like I've done with my XR18 - or is there a better route to go? And tied into that - if I want to keep the Mains/Sub/Monitor EQ that has already been set up at the venue as a starting point, I'd need to "safe" those channels/parameters before I bring in my show file, right? Or will my show file just completely override that? Again, thanks a million for making these videos! I'm a terrible drummer, but I love geeking out about drums - so I've enjoyed the drumming videos. I'm a big musical theatre fan (line by line mixing is my jam) so your video behind the scenes of the Rent "pit" was really cool too! Had to subscribe because everything on your channel is right up my alley.
I’m 99% sure you can’t wirelessly transmit a show file. You would need to save it on a usb stick via your computer to transmit it to the console. You could also hook your computer up to the console via a Ethernet cable and a usb cable for the m32 edit software to control the console. Im not sure about “safing” certain parameters like the house graph. If you can do it, the feature would be in the M32 edit app. I’d take a pic of the EQs you want to save and try to duplicate them the best you can. There is also the argument that you should keep the house file and save a copy for you to modify. That way you have the routing and the house graphs that work with the room. You can add your own layout and FX to the house file. I’ve seen a lot of people get into trouble when they bring an offline editor file in - you spend all of sound check getting your file to work vs getting the band what they need.
I went through several rat cables and found they ping test longer than their physical length. Unfortunately I couldn’t sacrifice length so I went with EliteCore tactical cables. I was able to purchase (2) 300’ cables and convert a hose reel to hold both both for less than the cost of the Rat Supercat. If you don’t need tactical cables because of a permanent install than ProCo makes one that works great at 300’. The experts will tell you to never go longer than 75m but I can attest that 300’ / 91m is no problem with the right cable spec.
I find that using a laptop with m32 edit is the fastest way to do the initial setup (besides assigning DCAs and doing low cuts on channels), mainly because typing channel names on a keyboard is faster. I also wonder if you've tried the mixing station app instead of the midas tablet app. You can make your own layout, create your own buttons and stuff to do your fx mutes, tap tempo, etc... Gui is ugly af but otherwise it's a godsend. And you can use it on your phone (in case you don't have a tablet).
Hey I did catch the show at the Budweiser stadium - and thought you had used the Midas32C (rack unit) if so - are you able to do playback on the 32C unit from SD Card - if you have a min - is it possible to do playback recording on the 32C? Thanks and great videos as always.
Here is a quick break down, though whole videos can be made about each item: DCA aka Digital Controlled Amplifier: think of this like a remote control. No audio passes through the DCA, it is a single fader that allows you to control several faders at once. The single DCA fader controls any fader(s) that are assigned to it and moves them all as a group in their relative positions. Aux aka an Auxiliary output: these are variable outputs on each channel that allow you to send the channel audio to various sources. Common applications are for sending channel signals to effects (ex: snare drum to a reverb unit). They are also used for monitoring: sending the singers mic to a floor monitor or in ear monitor. Matrix: Think of this like an aux that is fed by the master fader. The output of the master fader can be sent to the main speakers, subs, fill speakers, recorder or broadcast feeds.
Hello, I have a mixer midas m32 and stagebox dl32. I connected them to AES50A, I routed the inputs to the mixer to AES50A. I have no audio input to the mixer from the dl32, while the outputs are fine. can you help me, thanks
This is a great video.
Something I wanted to drop a line about is at 11:52 you say, "I don't know why you would send yours prefader..." A lot of times in smaller spaces, I will send drums pre fader to FX because the natural sound of the drums in the room is already loud enough and does not need any reinforcement. This way I can get a reverb tail on the snare drum without making the snare any louder in the main...hence all wet and no dry in the mains.
That´s very clever. I'll copy that!
I'm very familiar with the Allen and Heath, Presonus, Soundcraft, Yamaha, and rack-mounted Behringer consoles - but in a few weeks, I'm going to be filling in for a sound engineer at a venue that uses an M32R - and I've never had a chance to mess around with one! The closest I came was this summer when I mixed a magic show on an X32 - and there were a few things (channel naming, the mono channel, and "sends on faders") that initially tripped me up.
I've been binging all your videos and it's probably the best content out there on the console! Thank you!
Initially, I came into your videos knowing there were only a handful of things I needed to figure out, but in the process I've learned so many little tips and tricks that will make the shows a breeze. There's also been a few things along the way that have been really affirming - for instance, I always do some dramatic EQing to tighten up the subs. I rarely see people do that - and it's so nice to see that I'm not alone!
I'm shadowing the engineer next time there's a show - so between that experience and your videos, I should be prepared.
Twoish questions, though:
I've got a basic show file laid out the way I like to usually work in the M32 Edit app. Will I be able to easily sync that show file with the console over the WiFi connection like I've done with my XR18 - or is there a better route to go?
And tied into that - if I want to keep the Mains/Sub/Monitor EQ that has already been set up at the venue as a starting point, I'd need to "safe" those channels/parameters before I bring in my show file, right? Or will my show file just completely override that?
Again, thanks a million for making these videos! I'm a terrible drummer, but I love geeking out about drums - so I've enjoyed the drumming videos. I'm a big musical theatre fan (line by line mixing is my jam) so your video behind the scenes of the Rent "pit" was really cool too! Had to subscribe because everything on your channel is right up my alley.
I’m 99% sure you can’t wirelessly transmit a show file. You would need to save it on a usb stick via your computer to transmit it to the console. You could also hook your computer up to the console via a Ethernet cable and a usb cable for the m32 edit software to control the console. Im not sure about “safing” certain parameters like the house graph. If you can do it, the feature would be in the M32 edit app. I’d take a pic of the EQs you want to save and try to duplicate them the best you can. There is also the argument that you should keep the house file and save a copy for you to modify. That way you have the routing and the house graphs that work with the room. You can add your own layout and FX to the house file. I’ve seen a lot of people get into trouble when they bring an offline editor file in - you spend all of sound check getting your file to work vs getting the band what they need.
I went through several rat cables and found they ping test longer than their physical length. Unfortunately I couldn’t sacrifice length so I went with EliteCore tactical cables. I was able to purchase (2) 300’ cables and convert a hose reel to hold both both for less than the cost of the Rat Supercat. If you don’t need tactical cables because of a permanent install than ProCo makes one that works great at 300’. The experts will tell you to never go longer than 75m but I can attest that 300’ / 91m is no problem with the right cable spec.
I find that using a laptop with m32 edit is the fastest way to do the initial setup (besides assigning DCAs and doing low cuts on channels), mainly because typing channel names on a keyboard is faster.
I also wonder if you've tried the mixing station app instead of the midas tablet app. You can make your own layout, create your own buttons and stuff to do your fx mutes, tap tempo, etc... Gui is ugly af but otherwise it's a godsend.
And you can use it on your phone (in case you don't have a tablet).
Nice teaching
Hey I did catch the show at the Budweiser stadium - and thought you had used the Midas32C (rack unit) if so - are you able to do playback on the 32C unit from SD Card - if you have a min - is it possible to do playback recording on the 32C?
Thanks and great videos as always.
Great video, I just learned how to use a digital console, what a DCA is & What the difference between an AUX and a Matrix.
Here is a quick break down, though whole videos can be made about each item:
DCA aka Digital Controlled Amplifier: think of this like a remote control. No audio passes through the DCA, it is a single fader that allows you to control several faders at once. The single DCA fader controls any fader(s) that are assigned to it and moves them all as a group in their relative positions.
Aux aka an Auxiliary output: these are variable outputs on each channel that allow you to send the channel audio to various sources. Common applications are for sending channel signals to effects (ex: snare drum to a reverb unit). They are also used for monitoring: sending the singers mic to a floor monitor or in ear monitor.
Matrix: Think of this like an aux that is fed by the master fader. The output of the master fader can be sent to the main speakers, subs, fill speakers, recorder or broadcast feeds.
What if you did have a crossover how would you go about that?
No LPF or HPF. EQ as needed.
Hello, I have a mixer midas m32 and stagebox dl32. I connected them to AES50A, I routed the inputs to the mixer to AES50A. I have no audio input to the mixer from the dl32, while the outputs are fine. can you help me, thanks
1. Confirm that you see a green sync light on the DL and the console
2. Double check that routing on each input channel is set to AESA
Hi Billy!Please tell me, if I connect the m32c+dl32 to the main console on stage, do I need to use hi pass filters on the L and R matrix?
Depends on the application. I generally run a HPF on the matrix if I am not using a system processor.
Great video as always. can you please share the name of the midas mixer app on your tablet that you're using?
It’s the regular M32 Mix app from Midas.
at 28:28 , how you gonna exclude some channels from the matrix mix ? i think you need to use AUX bus instead, right?
Correct.
Super!
hi. where can i find the effects section not using an iPad?
Bottom left button labeled “effects” next to the screen.
What iOS version is your iPad on?
Hi sir may I know the model of your ipad?
It’s a Mini
More delay in the subs please Billy
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