Edita Gruberova's Zerbinetta with two F6#

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  • @albertcombrink3717
    @albertcombrink3717 3 роки тому +29

    23 December 2020. Happy birthday! I listen to this EVERY YEAR on your birthday!

  • @InLovewithBach
    @InLovewithBach 4 місяці тому +4

    This is one of the best performances we have documented of La Gruberova, simply unbelievable and recorded in her absolute prime...

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  4 місяці тому +3

      this particular recital was recommended to me 20 years ago by Gerald Moore the famous voice teacher and Fleming's vocal coach... and I bought it from a British guy who had the rarest opera collection along with Natalie's Lakme and dame Joan's and Marilyn's live black and white recital under Bonynge... Edita had also sung the impossible Lucio Silla aria in this recital...

    • @TarotAstrologerTHOMAS
      @TarotAstrologerTHOMAS Місяць тому

      ​@@LohengrinOwow nice ❤

  • @cristofermunozchacano2277
    @cristofermunozchacano2277 3 роки тому +23

    May her voice rest in peace. Goodbye Edita. Thanks for this Zerbinetta ❤️🤧

  • @lisaanselmo326
    @lisaanselmo326 2 роки тому +16

    She sends Strauss packing! Enormous voice. ENORMOUS high notes. She is a machine. Wonderful interpretation. Thank the lord I didn't hear her sing this when I was studying this role. I might have given up totally. And of course she does the original version so rarely done now. (But anyone else find the ads that cut into this annoying?)

  • @juja1114
    @juja1114 Рік тому +8

    Edita you are the brilliant forever!!!! You're always with us

  • @YuriyKorsak
    @YuriyKorsak 3 роки тому +16

    R.I.P.
    Farewell to mastress of belcanto... So soon, so unexpected loss. May God bless her soul. Now she's singing for Him in heaven... 😭💛💛💛💛🙏

  • @jessewarner7962
    @jessewarner7962 3 роки тому +24

    She truly is in the “zone” here, where her voice is just beautifully warmed up, and just where she wants it. Beautiful voice; beautiful performance. Brava!

  • @boo1463
    @boo1463 3 роки тому +13

    Rest In Peace Maestra Edita Gruberova ! May your voice live forever !

  • @jiminygerry
    @jiminygerry 3 роки тому +16

    Elle me rappelle sa Zerbinetta en 1976 au Mai Musical Florentin dirigée par K. Bohm où après son air, le public émerveillé en délire lui fit une standing ovation et l’applaudit durant 12 mn... Bohm essaya à plusieurs reprises de reprendre la direction, sans succès ! Ce fut un des triomphes les plus fantastiques auquel nous avions assisté. Du très grand R. Strauss, de la très très grande Édita, Zerbinetta inégalée à ce jour, sachant rendre justice au compositeur et au personnage avec brio, se jouer de toutes les difficultés avec élégance, style viennois et technique vocale sans faille. Merci Lohengrin et Édita. 👍🏽🎶🍾

  • @barbaragauhl6175
    @barbaragauhl6175 3 роки тому +13

    Die Zerbinetta sang Frau Gruberova auf vielen Konzerten , auch noch im höheren Alter von 70 Jahren . Ihre Zerbinetta ist einmalig , fantastisch gesungen, aber auch schauspielerisch . Ich hatte das Glück Frau Gruberova in Zürich in vielen Opernrollen live zu sehen auf dem Höhepunkt ihrer Karriere, unvergesslich ❤️

  • @Emanuel9991000
    @Emanuel9991000 3 роки тому +12

    Edita Gruberova: beautiful, awesome, phenomenal, powerful high × high × high notes!

  • @tautrau9373
    @tautrau9373 3 роки тому +9

    RIP Edita, what a marvel

  • @WernerLemberg
    @WernerLemberg 6 років тому +40

    This is Strauss's first version of the aria ”Großmächtige Prinzessin“, which is almost twice as long as the version sung today in ”Ariadne auf Naxos“. Additionally, the middle part with the high notes is a full tone higher, thus two F#6 (and today two E6).

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  6 років тому +6

      exactly

    • @WernerLemberg
      @WernerLemberg 6 років тому +9

      BTW, Karl Böhm called her the best Zerbinetta ever (there is an old recording from the Wiener Staatsoper, from the early 70ies IIRC, that demonstrates that) - given his acquaintance with Strauss, this verdict is quite profound

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  6 років тому +11

      to my mind she is the ONLY Zerbinetta... I had read once that she had said that Zerbinetta is nothing compared to the difficulty of Aminta... took me decades to locate this: ua-cam.com/video/0VuB93lLhAk/v-deo.html

    • @markgilgallon977
      @markgilgallon977 4 роки тому +6

      @@WernerLemberg it is reported that when Böhm heard her sing Zerbinetta, he said, "This is the voice Strauss had in mind for Zerbinetta."

    • @brookeggleston9314
      @brookeggleston9314 4 роки тому +3

      @@LohengrinO Hmmm, she was at Vienna at the same time as Arleen Auger!

  • @mariposamarshall9773
    @mariposamarshall9773 Рік тому +3

    OMG- MAGNIFICENT!!!! She's a beast in this aria-L'ENFANT TERRIBLE-OTHERWORLDLY IT IS SO UNBELIEVABLY OUTSTANDING

  • @coloraturaElise
    @coloraturaElise 2 роки тому +8

    Absolutely incredible singing!

  • @Leanrosso
    @Leanrosso 4 роки тому +22

    Just a few sopranos have been able to sing this version.

  • @vitaliymal1674
    @vitaliymal1674 8 років тому +20

    incomparable! great! the best!

  • @henkhartman3048
    @henkhartman3048 3 роки тому +7

    Rest in Peace......❤

  • @tiosamuel5188
    @tiosamuel5188 3 роки тому +8

    GROSSMÄCHTIGE PRINZESSIN..(Primera versión de 1912) "EL ARIA IMPOSIBLE", ¡¡fantástica la GRUBEROVA, IRREAL, MÁGICA!!

  • @Leanrosso
    @Leanrosso 8 років тому +13

    INCREIBLE!!!!!! NADIE VA A CANTAR ESTO JAMAS CON LA PERFECCION QUE ELLA LO HIZO.

  • @rudihut7799
    @rudihut7799 2 роки тому +4

    Wow 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 amazing. RIP 💐🙏🏼

  • @BangkokVoiceCoach
    @BangkokVoiceCoach 2 роки тому +4

    How could you not love this?

  • @mariannecortsen5014
    @mariannecortsen5014 2 роки тому +5

    We will miss you so much now you will sing for the angels...and with them...

  • @williamparsons8535
    @williamparsons8535 5 місяців тому +1

    For me, Miss Gruberova sets the standard for Zerbinetta!!!

  • @Canourson
    @Canourson 4 роки тому +10

    C'est incroyable.

  • @康翠哩
    @康翠哩 Рік тому +3

    走進CD行,我問老闆最好聽的歌聲是誰,他給了她的CD,十年來陪伴我

  • @davidfranklin272
    @davidfranklin272 3 роки тому +6

    Wonderful.

  • @zofiaczerczynska7935
    @zofiaczerczynska7935 2 роки тому +4

    Requiesce in pace Queen Edita.

  • @OperaBobbie
    @OperaBobbie 2 роки тому +4

    Incredible!

  • @wayneblackmonmdjd6870
    @wayneblackmonmdjd6870 3 роки тому +5

    Also hear Beverly Sills do it in concert. While these ladies are incomparable, Strauss was correct in editing it.

  • @janomedokys2552
    @janomedokys2552 3 роки тому +3

    R.I.P. Madam Opera

  • @niconico7281
    @niconico7281 3 роки тому +4

    Una de sus Creaciones donde es Unica.!!

  • @leemartinez1203
    @leemartinez1203 3 роки тому +3

    Después dìganme que somos todos iguales!!! juas! Que los superhumanos existen. EG es prueba de ello.

  • @BFPINHO
    @BFPINHO 6 років тому +5

    obrigado por compartilhar

  • @moirbasso7051
    @moirbasso7051 5 років тому +4

    Thanks for the (accurate, if sometimes catty) responses. All I know is I heard her on a YT video, or some more recent recording, and was appalled at how the voice had disappeared. I remember hearing an Ariadne in the Wiener Staatsoper in the mid-1980s', with Gruberova as Zerbinetta, and Agnes Baltsa as the Komponist- I cannot remember the Ariadne, but those two were ABSOLUTELY STUNNING- after this b*tch of an aria, her 'Stumm, stumm' was so effortless, it brought the house down. Ariadne, who?
    Thanks for this video! I'd prefer to remember her at her best....

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  5 років тому +9

      all my posts are the singers at their best... today's Gruby is a travesty created by her twisted ambition to sing the Callas repertoire... but before all this nightmare, she was one of the greatest singers in history

    • @joseveroncampisi8543
      @joseveroncampisi8543 Рік тому

      ​@@LohengrinO.

  • @wayneblackmonmdjd6870
    @wayneblackmonmdjd6870 3 роки тому +2

    RIP

  • @СеклитаЛимариха
    @СеклитаЛимариха 4 роки тому +2

    Люблю.

  • @mariaisabelarroyo4978
    @mariaisabelarroyo4978 3 роки тому +4

    Unica e irrepetible

  • @willworkforwages
    @willworkforwages 8 років тому +8

    Brava! What year is this?

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  8 років тому +6

      her very long gone vocal prime in 1986

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +6

      MonogramistaML
      Because her extremely small courtyard of fans have made her believe the last 15 years that she has a voice to sing :D

    • @Pianist_Jihun_Noh
      @Pianist_Jihun_Noh 5 років тому +6

      Lohengrin O This concert was performed in 1983, Munich ! There’s a slight error :P

    • @coraberger4947
      @coraberger4947 3 роки тому

      Its surly 1983. I ask my childchoir leader to record it for me when this Münchner Sonntagskonzert WA broadcasted live.

  • @wijidery6610
    @wijidery6610 2 роки тому +1

    12:43

  • @liakesuma1267
    @liakesuma1267 3 роки тому +3

    Where is the F#6 ?

  • @celloguy
    @celloguy 8 років тому +13

    Hmm. Even at her prime, the coloratura is very very weird sounding, kind of like Deutikom, also constantly breaking the legato. She's scooping all over the place (not proper portamento), bad diction. Very accurate at least, but she's already doing the weird facial contortions just in microcosm.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  8 років тому +9

      +celloguy not just scooping.. she literally slurs everywhere and everything.. if you visualize this u can see a huge tongue licking everything and smudging its edges :D (this is not good coloratura technique, but thats why she kept her voice till she became a zombie!) Can you believe that after my 30 years in opera this is the only aria I like Gruberova in? (the Strauss coloraturas in general)

    • @willworkforwages
      @willworkforwages 8 років тому +15

      Detractors hear what they want to hear. So do fans. I'm among the latter. You guys are extremely harsh; your contempt borders on the personal.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  8 років тому +7

      willworkforwages
      my contempt describes the Massacre she committed in bel canto the last 20 years :D extremely ambitious, not enough intelligent, totally deranged fan circle

    • @willworkforwages
      @willworkforwages 8 років тому +14

      You relish vitriol. Fifty years from now she will be remembered and admired, flaws and all. I'm confident that you won't be. Soprano snipers.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  8 років тому +14

      willworkforwages
      she will always be remembered for her first 20 years (up to 1990 when she was singing her true nature repertoire like Kostanze, Aminta, Zerbinetta, Fiakermilli etc) and she will be forever laughed at her ridiculous efforts to sing the Assoluta repertoire in the last 20 years where she almost destroyed her fame as a serious singer
      ... no vitriol here dude, just the simple truth
      , Ambition without Intellect is a very bad thing !

  • @amesavis
    @amesavis 5 років тому +5

    you can see why he revised it. it's rambling and nonmelodic. does it count if you only hit the high note for a nanosecond? I guess so. Also, I think she needs a better fitting bra.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  5 років тому +3

      she was a true goddess back then though...

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 5 років тому +10

      The F#6 at 9:36 is considerably longer than a nanosecond...

    • @markgilgallon977
      @markgilgallon977 4 роки тому +5

      When a note has a staccato over it you're not supposed to sing it long. She sang it as the composer wrote it.

  • @debdrum2976
    @debdrum2976 Рік тому +1

    This is literally the only aria I can stomach to listen to by her and the only reason why is because many sopranos don’t sing this version.
    I would prefer to hear other sopranos sing it but they haven’t yet.
    This type of Strauss aria works well for her voice because it doesn’t particularly require precise bel canto. So a singer like her has leeway to slide through the melismas with no accuracy. She has no accuracy at all singing bel canto so I can see her leaning into Strauss more.
    I cannot stomach her horrible coloratura in any actual bel canto roles.
    She is a one trick pony and her only trick is explosive high notes.
    Other than that people can miss me with thinking she’s the best Zerbinetta😂…some of these people in the comments sound delusional stating she’s the “only” Zerbinetta 💀
    This is one of the few recordings of this versions of the aria in full and that’s what I feel is the main reason why people support this video.
    For my taste I’ve never seen her do Zerbinetta where I have liked the acting 🤷🏾‍♀️
    And I definitely CANNOT stomach her singing in any other opera genre or composer.
    This is actually the only recording I’ve ever been able to listen to in full by her.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  Рік тому +1

      ...kinda me too... and Fiakermilli, Aminta and Aithra's (the Straussian Coloraturas) As Aminta she only has Reri Grist as rival... no competition (and Dessay in her not so good years)

    • @chaos2480
      @chaos2480 11 місяців тому +1

      Gruberova sang great Mozart concert arias!

  • @Porn05Mouth
    @Porn05Mouth 7 місяців тому +1

    After listening to the traditional version a billion times, this version makes me clench my butt cheeks and the hair on the back of my neck stand up because it just feels so sharp…especially after that modulation into the section that’s different from the traditional version. Still, I appreciate the spectacular performance. What a talent she was. RIP, La Gruberova.