Cream (1993) On Their Goodbye US Tour - "I Was Just Full Of Hatred"

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce & Ginger Baker, interviewed in 1993

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  • @ricknorris1466
    @ricknorris1466 5 місяців тому +50

    Clapton’s Guitar work in Cream was his best.

    • @jrkchannel37
      @jrkchannel37 5 місяців тому +6

      Ginger and Bruces great musicianship pushed Clapton to his limits.

    • @mrader217
      @mrader217 5 місяців тому +2

      The very elements he claimed to not like, Jack Bruce's proggy/psych, was Clapton's greatest contributions to rock

    • @plantagenant
      @plantagenant 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm a big fan of Clapton up to his Heroin recovery. His guitar playing lost its fire after that. All very accomplished but just too bland for my taste.

    • @BuJammy
      @BuJammy 5 місяців тому

      @@jrkchannel37 Ginger is a terrible drummer.

    • @Happyville85
      @Happyville85 5 місяців тому

      Without a doubt.

  • @bennylevine387
    @bennylevine387 5 місяців тому +6

    At 18, I perceived Cream as Clapton with two really good musicians. Now at 52, it's more about Bruce and Baker, with Clapton more the afterthought.

    • @michaelred5997
      @michaelred5997 4 місяці тому

      I don't think you understand just how good Eric really was!

    • @bennylevine387
      @bennylevine387 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelred5997 I think I do, I just perhaps backlashed too far. It's still hard to accept that that animal who was in Cream or even with some of his early 70's stuff ended up this middle of the road guy.

  • @user-sw9jo7fe3d
    @user-sw9jo7fe3d 5 місяців тому +10

    Imagine being around Ginger Baker 24/7..crazy.

  • @cameronlewis1218
    @cameronlewis1218 5 місяців тому +30

    Bands getting overworked and ruined by management has been going on forever. Deep Purple comes to mind first. Then a thousand others after that…

    • @user-jm7ie2qe2f
      @user-jm7ie2qe2f 5 місяців тому +11

      I think Jimi was basically worked to death and terribly ripped off, too.

    • @Mitchell-lc5kj
      @Mitchell-lc5kj 5 місяців тому +1

      @@user-jm7ie2qe2f Jimi was drowned in wine

    • @charlie-j4o7u
      @charlie-j4o7u 5 місяців тому +5

      If The Beatles weren't safe then no one was

    • @poliziagrammaticale9430
      @poliziagrammaticale9430 4 місяці тому

      Lynyrd Skynyrd

  • @ProfessorKenneth
    @ProfessorKenneth 2 місяці тому +1

    One of my favourite bands.. these 3 were a perfect band, obviously musically only..👍🏻

  • @justinherbert9146
    @justinherbert9146 5 місяців тому +18

    Cream reunited in 2005 and the series of concerts they did at the Royal Albert Hall were great so much so that Eric was beaming, he was happy, excited -- you got the feeling he saw a future for Cream - as if he could go off and tour and record on his own and then every few years come back to Cream -- but unfortunately when they played shows at Madison Square Garden Jack and Ginger were back to fighting again on stage and not rehearsing to Eric's liking for those shows - and that's when they ;lost Eric because it had been unhealthy again to be in that band . RIP Jack and Ginger and God bless Eric and his family!

    • @stephenfisch615
      @stephenfisch615 5 місяців тому +2

      I was at all three of those MSG concerts. If you had told me in 2004 that that was going to happen next year, I’m not sure that I would’ve believed you.

    • @justinherbert9146
      @justinherbert9146 5 місяців тому +1

      @@stephenfisch615 How were the MSG shows compared to the RAH shows? In his autobiography Eric wrote how at the MSG shows the guys were fighting on stage and Eric said they sounded thin in the far bigger arena

    • @jrkchannel37
      @jrkchannel37 5 місяців тому +2

      One if the biggest problems was Ginger being Ginger and complaining about the volume on stage. Stubborn ole ginga

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 5 місяців тому +2

      Did it occur to any armchair psychologists here that Jack Bruce was barely recovered from a liver transplant and had to play from a stool for some of that show?
      That each had moved on with various musical pursuits. That anyone listening to those second farewell shows should have been struck at how especially Eric was a far more restrained player now immersed in POP Rock.
      😂

    • @justicegusting2476
      @justicegusting2476 5 місяців тому +2

      I traveled, on a construction worker’s wage, to MSG from San Diego to see my all-time favorite band one more time. I expected a RAH show. What I got was a shadow or less of those performances. Spent a lot of money to be sorely disappointed.

  • @LordGreystoke
    @LordGreystoke 5 місяців тому +45

    The only way Cream could have survived was if they had inserted another musician into the band. Blind Faith, in a way, became that band, minus Jack Bruce. But imagine, Ginger, Eric, and Jack with Stevie Winwood and you have had one hell of a CREAM!

    • @Riddim4
      @Riddim4 5 місяців тому +9

      Or they could have taken a break in 1967-8 for a while. Instead Stigwood overbooked and burnt them out.

    • @stephenfisch615
      @stephenfisch615 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Riddim4 that is what Ginger Baker said they should have done. I think you and he might be right, but we’ll never know l

    • @arieltea2036
      @arieltea2036 5 місяців тому

      Indeed, in fact, Eric once suggested another musician due to his desire to add more rhythm section, in which Cream would specially rely only to Jack on holding the harmony while Eric enter the solo. Eric himself, as everyone can expect, once mentioned Steve Windwood as the candidate after their 'Powerhouse' session years before Cream. However it never happened and the rest is history.

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 5 місяців тому +2

      And Blind Faith lasted how long?
      Having seen Stevie live in various iterations, including as a solo performer with backing musicians, I would say he is a one man powerhouse.
      He just naturally takes center stage. Thus he thrives in off beat band situations like Traffic.

    • @benw-king3380
      @benw-king3380 5 місяців тому +1

      With respect, that would have just altered the dynamic completely. People went to see Cream for a particular kind of improvisational virtuosity which arose from the triangular energy that was generated by their complex relationship. That sounds like a mouthful, but it's pretty straightforward really. Blind Faith was a different animal altogether...and that's what Clapton wanted. Cream was like a comet that burnt ferociously , and then burnt out.

  • @mike4619
    @mike4619 5 місяців тому +8

    Ginger Baker was an arrogant ass. Jack Bruce threw it right back in his face while Clapton let it ride. That's why they broke up. They never stood a chance.

  • @russellparratt9859
    @russellparratt9859 5 місяців тому +1

    I like Ginger Baker's comments, about how they SHOULD have had some time off, (if only it had been possible!), and about the impact of their music on rock in general. No matter what difficulties they had at the time, the music will always stand as a monument to their greatness, and as an early peak in the history of rock music.

  • @golds04
    @golds04 5 місяців тому +9

    He learned his lesson with the Dominoes. For better or worse. Less gigs/ less recordings. What a band. 💯🙏

  • @AcmePotatoPackingPocatello
    @AcmePotatoPackingPocatello 5 місяців тому +3

    The first 2 albums were the artistic pinnacle of the genre.

    • @robertkelly6282
      @robertkelly6282 5 місяців тому +1

      The forefathers of heavy rock bands. Too bad there management pushed them to do live music. Would have been nice for one more album. And yes they would not has lasted forever

    • @AcmePotatoPackingPocatello
      @AcmePotatoPackingPocatello 5 місяців тому

      @robertkelly6282
      Ya, hey I swear Jack Bruce got his song ideas from black light posters 1967,68,69 .
      Like tales of Brave Ulysses- White Room, and almost every thing on the first 2 albums had a surreal fantasy effect. Additionally Eric Clapton was forced by Bruce to play a different way. Much better way in my view.

  • @stevehughes1510
    @stevehughes1510 5 місяців тому +3

    A fantastic band who were as they all say 'overworked' and underpaid, it didn't help at all given the dynamics of Jack and Ginger. Love the music.

  • @SFbank721
    @SFbank721 5 місяців тому +4

    Saw the show at Philadelphia Spectrum, Nov 1 1968. They played on a round revolving stage in center of venue. Opening act Terry Reid.

    • @dirtworshiper2800
      @dirtworshiper2800 5 місяців тому +1

      One of the best bands. How lucky were you. Wish I could’ve seen em.

    • @stephenfisch615
      @stephenfisch615 5 місяців тому +2

      The singer that was offered the lead singer role in the band that became Led Zeppelin. He couldn’t do it, but recommended that they check out his friend, Robert Plant.

    • @gregd7779
      @gregd7779 5 місяців тому +2

      Was at the MSG Show 11/2/68 same opening, same revolving stage. Was at the 2005 reunion at MSG as well.

  • @bobturnley2787
    @bobturnley2787 5 місяців тому +6

    They didn't have the management they needed to mediate between the members of the band and to keep the band's best interests ahead of everything else. Without that management, a band is just a ticking timebomb.

    • @jefflanham1080
      @jefflanham1080 5 місяців тому

      Actually they did with Robert Fitzpatrick who was the partner to Stigwood…..incidentally Stigwood was absent because he was basically frightened of Bruce/Baker lol…..anyway, those two were so volatile that it didn’t matter and moving on is Eric’s M.O.. Fitzpatrick being a war hero did a fine job with the relationships, because he didn’t take any shit but as I said it didn’t really matter.

    • @bobturnley2787
      @bobturnley2787 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jefflanham1080 True, Eric was never going to stay in any band for more than a couple of years. He knew his future was solo.

    • @jefflanham1080
      @jefflanham1080 5 місяців тому +1

      @@bobturnley2787 yep….I got some reliable information and a hell of a lot of great stories as drummer for Bobby Whitlock and later as a partner with Robert Fitzpatrick handling Buddy Miles and others. Both very cool experiences in different ways.

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 5 місяців тому

      @@bobturnley2787 Neither was Jack. He was similar to Jeff Beck in his drive to explore various musical genres and other creative artists.

    • @bobturnley2787
      @bobturnley2787 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jefflanham1080 Whitlock was great. Sang one of the best songs on the Layla album and I can hear him on some of the All Things Must Pass album.

  • @IsmailsGuitarWorld
    @IsmailsGuitarWorld 5 місяців тому +2

    wow! never saw this one thanks!

  • @pws8091
    @pws8091 5 місяців тому +2

    It was perfect as it was - they sowed seeds that grew into other trees and that, to this day, has artistic credibility.
    To have gone on would only have tarnished it - I don’t think it had loads more left in the tank before the scene changed anyway.

  • @Doones51
    @Doones51 5 місяців тому +2

    I was at the last US show that the poster at 2:49 advertises. It was the first big concert i attended. There were 2 shows that night and my friends and i were at the 2nd. They only played 2 songs, but i still thought it was a great concert. Their next and final show was the Farewell concert at the end of November at the Royal Albert Hall in London. It was very similar to the one i saw a few weeks early in the US. They played with the same frenetic intensity. I am playing a Clapton model Strat in my profile pic so it obviously had a large effect on me.

    • @dennishickey7194
      @dennishickey7194 5 місяців тому

      At the same concert. Do you remember whether the seating was on chairs put on plywood over the hockey ice as they did in those days?

  • @charlesolver303
    @charlesolver303 5 місяців тому +1

    Don't know if anyone cares, but that "first ever platinum album" award wasn't given by the RIAA (which didn't start doing Platinum awards until 1976) but was an in-house award given by Atlantic Records. And it wasn't even the first of those - that was for DISRAELI GEARS! (IN-A-GADDA-DA-VIDA was the second one.)

  • @RaysDad
    @RaysDad 5 місяців тому +7

    It's been 56 years and still no one can understand why Cream broke up.

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 5 місяців тому +1

      It is painfully obvious! 😂

  • @DavidRowbotham-gu7kz
    @DavidRowbotham-gu7kz 5 місяців тому +2

    Ive never seen ginger baker so calm.

  • @jrkchannel37
    @jrkchannel37 5 місяців тому +2

    They shouldve taken more breaks early on and reconsiled. Exhausting touring will get anyone tired of a setting like theirs. Clapton seemed very confused around this time, didnt know where he was going or why. Not easy being the middleman between two forces like Bruce and Baker.

  • @SluffAdlin
    @SluffAdlin 19 днів тому

    I love Ginger Baker, I don’t care how mean he was.

  • @bucktis9
    @bucktis9 5 місяців тому +2

    cream invented heavy metal

  • @guitar1067
    @guitar1067 5 місяців тому +1

    Eric has let it be known he wanted Traffic to ask him to join, after Cream.. If he had told Stevie explicitly, we could have had EC SW Chris Wood Capaldi and Grech. Wow! If SW didn't have bad vibes w Mason, he would have been a great musical addition. Personality chemistry often trumps all.

  • @AllisonHaefner-zq2jn
    @AllisonHaefner-zq2jn 5 місяців тому +2

    Liked “Badge” a lot. Stuff happens-look at Eagles. We’re all really just people here.

  • @ursulabornhauser1091
    @ursulabornhauser1091 5 місяців тому

    Interessting..eric the love of my life😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @slide4180
      @slide4180 5 місяців тому

      79th bday yesterday...

  • @dennisburns3456
    @dennisburns3456 5 місяців тому +2

    Saw them in 1968 Veterans Auditorium Des Moines. Concheror Worm opened
    What ever happened to Concheror Worm?

    • @Cream1968
      @Cream1968 5 місяців тому

      Conqueror…..😉 Saw them in Chicago in 68 as well 🇬🇧🇬🇧🙄

  • @Ihitthings3
    @Ihitthings3 5 місяців тому +2

    I think when Ginger got his new teeth, he became more of a mean old man.

  • @wonder6789
    @wonder6789 5 місяців тому +12

    I can't think of anyone else - perhaps Lennon - with such a capacity for deep and honest self-reflection as Eric Clapton.

    • @davidmccall4776
      @davidmccall4776 5 місяців тому +5

      These things are just a few of the many positive byproducts of a twelve step program for sober living that Eric is thankfully well acquainted with, positive in the sense that they're often, quite literally the difference between life and death. My great respect for Eric Clapton continues to grow, not only for his contributions to popular music, but also, and even more importantly, his various efforts to help those suffering from substance addiction. Godspeed Mr Clapton

    • @vtaro5354
      @vtaro5354 5 місяців тому +5

      Pete Townshend.

    • @Unclemoparman
      @Unclemoparman 5 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @wonder6789
      @wonder6789 5 місяців тому

      @@Unclemoparman 😩😩😩😩😩

  • @Gk2003m
    @Gk2003m 5 місяців тому +2

    1:53: ain’t it funny. deep,Purple had almost the exact same experiences in 1972-1973. Where they were desperate for some time off the treadmill, management was not giving it to them, and they just wore out. And the disconnect that emerged from that set everyone’s hair on edge. Result: Ian Gillan resigns, Roger Glover gets booted.

    • @gj8683
      @gj8683 5 місяців тому +1

      Their song "No, No, No" (from Fireball) is a finger-pointer at their management.

  • @Nonconformistwilderbeastman
    @Nonconformistwilderbeastman 5 місяців тому +1

    Looks like he's pickin' his nose in that picture 😂

  • @athanasiuscontra000
    @athanasiuscontra000 5 місяців тому +1

    I just watched the movie ELVIS, and certainly there’s a set of cautionary tales, the two, Cream and Elvis. Re: Robert Stigwood and Col. Parker, you can’t make it, they say, without a g-d sonovabtch to break through a few closed doors. But, there’s aggressive management and then there’s a bull in a china shop. Brian Epstein and Peter Asher both stayed close to the optimal track-conquering the world but not killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.

  • @johncopeland3826
    @johncopeland3826 5 місяців тому +2

    EC is on record as saying the main reason The Ceam disbanded was because of Music from big Pink , the first album from The Band . He had heard the record and instantly knew that Cream was travelling in the wrong direction ,musically ,with the rest being history . Psychedelia style of music was over as a popular genre .

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 5 місяців тому +3

      Here’s the problem. He also said Cream was a precursor of heavy metal. This is pop (really rock) psychology. Eric was worn out from touring from being a rock star. Dazed and confused! If The Band was the future then why’d he jump into a supergroup?
      Only to climb aboard the Delaney and Bonnie train!
      Looking at his career, he was wandering around, looking for his place in the cosmos.
      Jack went off and assembled an amazingly talented group, made what may be one of the most brilliant, eclectic records ever, toured behind it, split to join Tony Williams Lifetime, formed a band with Leslie West and Corky Laing, …..
      Like Jeff Beck, Jack was a musical wanderer, never a band guy he explored a number of genres and played with just incredible fellow musical geniuses.
      Ginger also got into some interesting bands etc.
      And finally, Eric also moved on to build a stellar career and found his sound, style and his voice becoming a solid singer.
      Cream had a great run.

    • @johncopeland3826
      @johncopeland3826 5 місяців тому

      @JohnLnyc oh there is no problem !Eric saw and heard The Band as a group and realised Gream were inferior as musicians ...that's all .

    • @shobudski6776
      @shobudski6776 5 місяців тому +2

      @@johncopeland3826I love the Band. Great musicians. But your statement isnt close to being true.

    • @johncopeland3826
      @johncopeland3826 5 місяців тому

      @@JohnLnyc Eric went to Woodstock hoping to join The Band ...he could not get the courage up to ask .

    • @stormymunday9836
      @stormymunday9836 5 місяців тому

      ​@@JohnLnyc Yep, I read the Clapton autobiography and it appears he tended to migrate toward the opening acts. Each time, he found himself playing/jamming/recording with them and ultimately leaving the band he was in.
      Always looking for his next "fix", if you will.

  • @henryfitch8710
    @henryfitch8710 5 місяців тому +2

    I always thought it was the bad blood between Jack and Ginger which killed this band.Eric was just a bystander in the days when Jack was the dominant member.

    • @Cream1968
      @Cream1968 5 місяців тому

      Pretty sure Ginger stole Jacks wife 🤔

    • @Cream1968
      @Cream1968 5 місяців тому

      Yeah, I believe she started getting friendly with Ginger when they were writing songs together like Sweet Wine I believe her name was Janet Godfrey

    • @henryfitch8710
      @henryfitch8710 5 місяців тому

      @@Cream1968 All Ginger did was create family mayhem, ref the film 'Beware of Mr Baker'. The South African lady he ended up with just kept her mouth shut unlike Ginger's first wife but I can't believe she's gained much as Ginger ended up poor due to his stupidity.

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 5 місяців тому

      @@henryfitch8710sorry but where do u get this stuff?

    • @henryfitch8710
      @henryfitch8710 5 місяців тому

      @@JohnLnyc I read it.

  • @robin2012ism
    @robin2012ism 19 днів тому

    Heartbreaking to see Jack suffering with liver probs. He was probably but I guess the face bloat was alcohol , like Morrison.

  • @auralepiphanies4055
    @auralepiphanies4055 4 місяці тому

    Yeah Cream is still one of my favorites-I think maybe it was that they were ALL 3 pretty unbearable people (the best musicians usually are!)...at least they got it out! thank you!

  • @charlesweeks5027
    @charlesweeks5027 5 місяців тому +1

    Do you remember picking your nose 00:20

    • @BoltRM
      @BoltRM 5 місяців тому +1

      It was a SCRATCH not a pick!!

    • @dannybursace9151
      @dannybursace9151 5 місяців тому

      Haha absolutely…no pick! There’s way no pick!

  • @johnmudd6453
    @johnmudd6453 5 місяців тому +3

    Jack's vocals better than winwood

    • @jrkchannel37
      @jrkchannel37 5 місяців тому +1

      Two different styles, no sport in music.

  • @RussellMorash-m8w
    @RussellMorash-m8w 5 місяців тому

    Artists are eggo manniacs as it is putting three people who all where equally talented will never work just look at world governments minus the talent and ability to do what the know has to be done no one wants to be the follower everybody wants to be the leader untile a problem arises then it's everone else's fault they have the money power and acritical aclaim and still there never content learn to work as a unite people and man kind could have alot of peace.

  • @Sdutt_author
    @Sdutt_author 5 місяців тому

    Jack Bruce looking like a real alcoholic here

  • @guitarcrazyusa
    @guitarcrazyusa 5 місяців тому

    One word - THERAPY… x three

  • @FeelingShred
    @FeelingShred 4 місяці тому

    Loved CREAM but when I listen back to concert bootlegs from them I get the impression the "improvisation" parts go on for much longer than needed to detriment of the songs. Is this how people perceived the band at the time too? And drum solos 😂😂😂😂 And back to 7 minutes of soloing 😂😂😂😂😂 Heartbraking really

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 4 місяці тому

      The 2005 live performance really displayed the best potential of the band showcasing more Songs than jamming

    • @blib3786
      @blib3786 4 місяці тому

      Long improvisational jams were very much the thing back then, Led Zeppelin did the same thing all throughout the 70s and so did pretty much every other heavy blues rock band. You gotta understand that before the mid-late 60s rock musicians generally weren't skilled enough to improvise a 30 minute guitar solo like Eric Clapton and rock/pop music was all about playing 3 minute singles, so at the time it was a genuinely impressive display of skill/musicianship and vastly expanded the boundaries of rock music. In a way it's similar to how shredding was all the rage in the 80's after Van Halen hit the scene.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 4 місяці тому

      "Long improvisations" is one thing. Noodling aimlessly on the blues pentatonic scale for 23 minutes is another thing entirely. It doesn't serve the song anymore at that point.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 4 місяці тому

      But yeah on this part I agree, they were the first to do that, at least on that level, and do it live, no BS

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 4 місяці тому

      well apart from a few acts like Pink Floyd etc, extended keyboard solos from Rick Wright etc, I think they were doing right at the same time Cream was being formed

  • @trikkke11
    @trikkke11 5 місяців тому

    Never understood what the big deal wit Cream was. Boring band. No loss.

  • @adamcarrey9115
    @adamcarrey9115 5 місяців тому +3

    Has he gotten the COVID booster yet?

    • @flinx649
      @flinx649 5 місяців тому

      He's still living isn't he?

    • @adamcarrey9115
      @adamcarrey9115 5 місяців тому +4

      @@flinx649 For now.

  • @memonk11
    @memonk11 5 місяців тому

    Because he was drunk.

  • @mikejohnson2638
    @mikejohnson2638 5 місяців тому +1

    three total losers, so over rated.

    • @andyanderson3567
      @andyanderson3567 5 місяців тому

      Certainly one loser at least i'd say and that was Baker, who it seems was an obnoxious person. Given what i've read about him it seem somewhat surprising that he wasn't knocked by somebody who wouldn't put up with his ***t !!!

  • @patmcgarvey488
    @patmcgarvey488 5 місяців тому +1

    Cream is overrated and their conceited band name still annoys me.

    • @RegisWilkins
      @RegisWilkins 5 місяців тому

      you're uneducated, stick to Kiss and Bon Jovi.

  • @dennisschell5543
    @dennisschell5543 5 місяців тому +1

    Jack Bruce sucked... 🙄

    • @Doones51
      @Doones51 5 місяців тому

      You may be the only one who thinks that. Writing something like this without backing it up with facts reeks of bovine excrement.

    • @stephenfisch615
      @stephenfisch615 5 місяців тому +7

      Seriously? He was a tremendous bass player.

    • @jrkchannel37
      @jrkchannel37 5 місяців тому +5

      Troll

    • @jrkchannel37
      @jrkchannel37 5 місяців тому +4

      .and vocalist, arranger, songwriter, musician overall.