Do we need scientific proof for flossing?
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2023
- #flossing #flosser #functionaldentist #dentist #oralhealth
In today’s episode, Dr. Staci joins Dr. B to discuss the misinformation about flossing spread online by social media influencers. They explain why social media algorithms can be incredibly harmful, the destructive nature of clickbait and fearmongering, how studies against flossing measure up to the truth, and the positive results Dr. Staci has witnessed in her own patients who floss regularly. Our doctors then explore exactly what social media influencers say about flossing, the vital information they’re conveniently omitting, why our hosts are irked by the iteration that flossing causes bleeding, and how some influencers use their large fan base in a highly irresponsible way. Dr. Staci’s advice is simple: Please floss! And she warns against accepting medical advice that hasn’t referenced any credible sources. Finally, we look at the Bristle Health study confirming the benefits of flossing, why Dr. B thinks that flossing is a no-brainer, and the transmissible nature of bacteria and other factors you must consider when making decisions about your oral health.
Key Points From This Episode:
Dr. Staci and Dr. B discuss the misinformation being spread online about flossing [00:52]
Why social media algorithms are more harmful than helpful [01:22]
The perils of clickbait and fearmongering [01:45]
Assessing the studies that go against flossing [01:57]
What Dr. Staci has witnessed in her patients who floss regularly [03:03]
The (wrong) things social media influencers are saying about flossing [03:49]
The vital information that influencers are omitting [05:59]
Why Doctors B and Staci are irked by the statement that “flossing causes bleeding” [08:07]
How it’s utterly irresponsible to use a big following to spread misinformation [09:02]
Dr. Staci’s professional advice: Please floss [10:11]
Talking about the Bristle study that confirms the benefits of flossing [11:00]
Water picks as a great alternative to flossing [13:30]
Dr. B gives his take on why flossing is a no-brainer [14:14]
Why you need to also consider the transmissible nature of bacteria [15:39]
A quick summary of what we’ve covered in this episode [18:33]
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Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:
‘The effect of flossing on the oral microbiome’ -
‘How to clean the back of your tongue’
Bristle Health
Slate Electric Flosser - Code askthedentist10 gets you a discount
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It would be fun to have you both debate Dr Phillips on this subject. We as lay people have no clue what studies and research means what since highly expert people have very diverse opinions.
Dr Ellie says not to floss and the biofilm actually protects your teeth. She has her own xylitol mint and gum line. It’s hard to know what to believe
Dr. Ellie Phillips has probably been practicing more than both of you combined, and based on her clinical and personal experience, is apposed to flossing. Any thoughts on her position?
She still has you use a mouth rinse.
@@NovaDoll Correct. I’ve used her system for decades and have never had a cavity or gum disease.
@@StudioRV8 I use her mints after I eat and I love them. Less build up. I really like her method.
After following Dr Ellie I compromise with these polar views. I softly floss, use hello kids natural with low sodium flouride paste and changed to a weak homenade xylitol mouthwash. I tongue scrape in am and coconut oil pull. The best experience is the xylitol gum and swooshing with xylitol has been excellent at sealing cavities.
Dr. Ellie Phillips has very good points on flossing being overrated. even damaging.
She has 3 mouth rinses x2 a day and xylitol.
she goes on further saying bristles of a brush can help dislodge debris too, more gentle than floss.
Also, technically speaking, flossing once a day is pretty close to flossing zero times a day, it's already less than flossing twice a day.
Her complete system also makes tongue brushing obsolete too.
She is aversive to nano-hydroxyapatite-- which I am going for.
And, also, Dr. Ellie points out, the study(s) that scientists and dentists point out about mouthwash and oral bacteria is the Only with prescription chlorhexidine.
These scientists may have not read these studies properly that do not say listerine, but the author just generalizing chlorhexidine as "anti-septic", along with Listerine marketing being misleading that "99% of germs" means good germs too.
Drs!! I am an RDH in Texas and since Covid have become “enlightened” if you will. I’m torn daily when it comes to placing fl2 varnishes and other routine procedures of “modern”dentistry. I educate my patients on the importance of nasal breathing/mouth taping, not using mouthwash etc. but recently my boss asked me to stop but said he’d consider allowing it if i bought him documented PEER REVIEWED studies on this subject matter. Would either of y’all know where I’d most likely be able to find some?
Beautiful iniformation, thank you.
Great video, thank you. Can you recommend a good flosser? I think I've read that some floss isn't good for us (coated in toxic chemicals?).
Oral B Satin dental tape is excellent. I have used it for years.. Slightly thicker as it is tape which makes it really good for cleaning the pockets.
What about water pic?
Also, how to keep the nasal passage clear for nose breathing? Would you recommend a nasal irrigator?
Makes sense if the cause is an obstruction you can flush out. I suppose using a hypertonic solution would also draw out the fluid from the mucosa. But would there be a rebound effect? Probably better to target the reason it is obstructing
Studies have changed of the years .. afraid to change at 56 when I’ve been doing to have no cavities …. I chew them up to like 10 minutes after a meal if I don’t brush. … I brush 2 to 3 times a day. .. I rinse out my mouth with a more natural rinse or salt water sometimes not I’m gonna consistent basis… floss not every day even have water picked .. Baking soda, my teeth at times … but very consistent making sure before I go to bed to brush my teeth … I take anything with caution to change after 56 years
I can't quite get my head around flossing. It just seems like a bad idea to push anything towards, especially into the gum line. I use a waterpik beforehand now so it doesn't seem as bad. I use an ionic toothbrush and brush away from the gumline.
Is water flossing good enough, or should we floss too? I love my water flosser but I can floss too, if you think that's important.
It’s important if your dexterity allows, nothing beats mechanical removal of plaque, biofilm, food particles etc….
Love you guys and your vlogs! New to the functional dental regimen here and absolutely loving it . Well done and please keep the knowledge flowing. 🦷👅👄🤍
I don't see links for the Bristle (flossing and tongue scraping) studies, could you provide? Their website also does not provide.
Maybe they didn't publish and info is just on their website? That is what I see.
I have a question. Do you ever answer questions?
Can you demonstrate flossing for shorter teeth? 99% of the how to floss properly videos show people with jumbo-sized chiclet teeth. Everyone says just floss as if it's a natural habit.
What should people with shorter teeth do? There's not enough room to go up and down between teeth without pushing way down under gumline and maybe causing more damage, or the space between the teeth is very right and excessive force is needed.
The vibrating flosser you recommend by Slate is disappointing despite your rave reviews. The heads DO NOT LAST for more than 1 use. So, lots of plastic waste is created. The tool is also cumbersome to reach back molars where flossing is already very tough to do. Vibration is nice if you avoid touching the teeth, but when the flosser string breaks every 2nd tooth, that's just wasteful.
Do you check plaque under microscope? What can be done at home to kill the bad bacteria? Lugols Iodine, Salt, Baking soda, Hydrogen Peroxide? Hyroxyapatite, colloidal nano silver? What actually works?
String flossing requires 2 hands and large teeth with canyon spaces between and all perfectly aligned. What should those with manual dexterity or disability, crossbites, shorter teeth, and tight spaces do?
What about the ultrasonic scalers? Are those safe to use at home? Is there any research on those tools?
What about miswak, neem chewsticks? Is there any research on the efficacy of those for brushing as part of oral care?
How about expandable floss with xylitol?
Is there a flosser wand with replaceable floss string [not wasteful plastic heads] that can reach back molars?
Or is water flosser the holy grail? 😮💨
General consensus in dental community is water flossing is inferior to string floss +|- inter dental brushes as appropriate. String floss does a fantastic job for my short teeth, I do go below the gum, haven’t noticed any recession in the last decade, it does bleed and can be sore for a couple of weeks if I stop doing it for ages, but without fail the bleeding has always stopped after a good 2 days of flossing
The tightness can be relieved by having your dentist use an inter proximal strip between the teeth, though it may get tighter again in time I suppose if you clench/grind
@Xinbaba congrats if string flossing works for you. Do you use an up-down motion or side-side motion?
Also, interdental strips are not practical because Chewing food is a daily activity, even aside from any clenching or grinding.
@@PWRKZMK Side to side alone has no benefit and will damage your roots, I've seen it and it's not pretty. I only go side to side to make it easier to go up and down; with short teeth, it's too easy to slip off the tooth if you just go straight up and down.
Just because you chew/clench/grind, doesn't mean the teeth will become tight so fast. It could take decades.
@Xinbaba With shorter teeth, there's not enough room to go up and down. That was the main point of my original comment. Also, not sure what kind of teeth you have that takes decades to close with already tight gaps. None of the anecdotal statements you've made address the specific issues with flossing highlighted in my original comment.
Are you a dentist or periodontist?
please comment on this site about "geographic" young....... plus is scraping that young OK.
I do not use other social media .
If you brush the front of your teeth to remove plaque, flossing is just how you brush the sides. If you are going to do one you should do the other. KISS