So glad Gunnar was a guest. I've seen him on a reality show on TV. He's so much more nicer and relatable here. I appreciate his message about doing your workout because it makes you feel good.
Hey, that’s my biggest fan. I love Gunnar. He has been so supportive of mark and I over the years. He even hung up my poster in his gym. The Bell brothers absolutely love both of you!❤
I started lifting weights when I got type2 diabetes I learned as much as I could to fully recover,that led to a healthy lifestyle in general I fully recovered and resistance training saved my life
As 76 year old movement coach that has gone from a pro skiing background to training for the past 50 years, I’ve now directed myself and my clients to increase spatial awareness through a brain based approach, releasing tension caused by lack of predictive capabilities in the brain, therefore increasing abilities of resistance based training. Especially in an older population where explosive and eccentric movements are the first to go effectively eliminating fast twitch involvement.
I do think like him. I wake up figuring out which workouts I will do. I love the benefits! I am a clinical exercise physiologist, so definitely I have it deeply ingrained in this field.
I like this Gunnar guy he is straight forward , intelligent, with lots of experience under his belt . I greatly appreciate his flexibility and covering the very important aspects surrounding getting in the best shape of ones life such as the importance of sleep, eating healthy , stretching Ect and gearing the program that best suits the clients needs. I plan to put my own program together using his ideas , mixing it up a little .
Loved this podcast!!! Always been a fan of Gunnar and you Dr Lyon… I refer to you as my ‘smart girl’ to my friends… loving your book! Thanks for the great content 💗
The direction society is going and has been going for the last 100 years is not sustainable. Something has to give and unfortunately for most, it's their health. By not prioritizing your health you are absolutely shaving years off of your life. We have to start asking some serious questions about the way we live. Why are we working 70-80 work weeks EVERY week and still struggling financially? Why don't we have enough time in the day to prioritize self care and by that I would include cooking & consuming quality foods, incorporating some sort of morning routine like breath-work and/or meditation. Why are we chasing $$$ & success instead of longevity and quality time with family & friends? Why are we living like this? My great grand parents lived a completely different way of life and they were happy. I don't see many happy people out there. I see a lot of unhappy, unhealthy, broke people who are struggling with every day life and who wake up miserable because they're going to repeat what they did yesterday today and every day until they're dead. We are not meant to live this way.
So true! I watched a retirement video recently focused on early retirement - I wondered why they are not telling people just to live better? Apparently we live 'healthily' for about 60/5 years on average unless we make the effort to eat well and exercise regularly.
Interesting guest brings up topic of rotational exercise many don't work into our workout program. A great rotational exercise that helps me develop more punching power on a heavy bag is using aweighted sledgehammer hitting a tire switching from left to right hand emphasizing the twist while raising weighted fitness sledgehammer.
Dr Doug Mcguff says you don't need cardio if you are lifting weights.. he gives very good science why weight training increases collateral circulation. He has some great podcasts.
I have never heard of this guy before, and I loved his delivery. Great methods and approach. Very similar to what I would do. Solid episode. Will follow him soon..
I've been lifting weights for 34 years. I used to read everything I could get my hands on by Author Jones and Mike Mentzer, Charles Poliquin. I still use the same principles today and I'm 57 and look like I'm 37. My body is still jacked and strong and my hormones and testosterone are still optimal. Keeping my hormones young definitely makes my skin look young I don't have any wrinkles or saggy skin.
I’m 61 … I’m a half marathoner type runner, but also lift weights 5 days a week .. guess you can call that Hybrid training. The weights are so U don’t get sarcopenia from all the running. So far so good.
Lifting is the one and only long term solution. You can run, jump and all, but most don't understand the power of it -> and not 5 pounds like the Kardashians would make you think... all the side-to-side movement conversation is also really important - how many times have people looked at me lifting and saying why do you go so hard and heavy? lol - But anyway, I'll be 50 next year, have been lifting for more than 20 years, and never felt so good. It really does work - for everyone.
You don't need to perform dynamic resistance training to build muscle. As long as the muscle is under tension for long enough and with enough intensity it will adapt. There's also no need to spend hours in the gym, that said you don't even need to visit the gym. From personal experience, the more reps the more sets the more likely hood injury will come a knocking. I can attest to how sleep is so underated and so overlooked. Thank you Dr Gabrielle Lyon for uploading and sharing. Ps please consider interviewing Dr Doug McGuff / Drew Baye.
@felipearbusstopotd You seem to be overlooking his '3 planes of motion' advocacy for optimal (& functional) results. Your 'time under tension' implys, to me, an isometric approach to resistance exercise(?) Isometrics & static holds are very good for our connective tissue - but an effective resistence protocol to include muscle maintenance (& growth) requires more than 'muscle under tension '
@jeannedigennaro6484 TUT may have its place, but it's not everything. As far as injury with more volume - sure- that may be true of someone with lousy technique. Having correct technique is everything - losing or compromising proper technique is 'failure' - and will eventually lead to injury. Volume, when properly performed does not lead to injury.
But what can we, the huge group of long covid sufferers do to maintain and build muscle if the heart rate spikes only with climbing some stairs…? It is hopeless, would you please share some thoughts on this? Are there any exercises that don‘t raise heart rate?
Very light weight to start with - I used soup cans , very easy resistance bands too. Start using the minimum you can manage, move up when that gets easy. You can start even sitting down, doing chair Pilates and chair yoga if your energy flags very quickly or your balance is questionable that day, there are tons of free videos here on UA-cam. Walk on level ground, including walking backwards if your balance and coordination allows. I didn’t have long Covid but I almost died from severe acute Lyme disease in my central nervous system. I went from incredibly fit & busy with endless energy to severely debilitated - could barely walk without a walker, only maybe 10 steps with, or speak clearly, terrible coordination, weak and tired ALL the time, disrupted sleep. It took me over 2 years of hard work to get really functional again but I got there! Also I eat super healthy, make sure I sleep, minimize stress - lol, wim hof breathing, sauna and cold showers/baths to stimulate mitochondria recovery and support immune function. All the things I can think of that’s makes sense according to data. If you crash after exertion, whether that’s immediate or delayed a day or two consider using D-ribose, Dr Sarah Myhill in the UK has great info on her website and uses it with great success with many of her patients. I am well now, have been for a couple years. I am maybe 95% what I was, still have to be careful of my sleep and energy, listen to my body. But I can work all day, walk for miles, play with my granddaughter, garden, dance, do calisthenics and yoga and cycle. Almost anything I want to. Life is good and healing IS possible! The struggles of those with long Covid and many chronic conditions sound so much like what I’ve gone through I think they may have similar paths to recovery. At least clues of what to consider. Wishing you wellness 🙏
Awesome interview really enjoyed when you guys spoke about the plans of motion especially the transverse plane, the energy system and the peripheral heart action system. Outstanding interview and great questions. Thank you for sharing
I’m 60 years old I hadn’t worked out for probably 10 years, however I do have a physically demanding job which requires me to move a machine around that weighs nearly 300 pounds, and I have to lift it in and out of my van 3 to 4 times a day and bring it up and down the steps in peoples homes every day three or four times, but now I have added weight training and I am 5 foot eight I was 230 pounds last December 2022 I am now 185 pounds this morning and added creatine and everybody there has not seen me for a long time that has recently seen me, is Shocked
I do these ten to 15 minutes HIIT sessions once or twice a week where I literally almost pass out. That is how alI guage whether Im near 180 or more easily
Resistance bands have many adaptive applications, including for balance doing heavy DB squats. I use specific weight associated bands for core lifts on the high bar.: My abs are as defined as a man can get. 8 pack. want pictures? I got 'em. I'm 72. great information. Thank you Ma'am, Sir.
Love all of this but I can’t do hiit bc of my back . I can’t do lunges or squats either. I have a genetic stenosis condition that is making working out nearly impossible. It’s so hard to not be able to use your body the way you know you should be
If you have access to a pool, there's a lot you can do to get your heart rate up, even without putting your head in the water or swimming. Working out in water has enormous benefits for your joints, muscles, neurological and cardiovascular systems.
@@queenredspecial Hmmm. Highly debatable that one can sub lifting weights with reformer pilates and effectively maintain/grow muscle and strength. This is because reformer Pilates does not employ periodization or strategically increasing weight-load for adaptation. Periodization & overload - that an effective lifting protocol would employ is required for adaptation. Adaption is required for muscle growth/maintenance. And we do not get this continued adaptation with Pilates. Also, pilates employs only 1 mivement plane, right? E.g, sagital movement - back/forth- no rotation movement, AFAIK.
@@barbarafairbanks4578 thank you. Reformer P does offer multiple plane movements and weight can be increased, but probably there is a better way to get the weigh lifting in. I am a novice and averse to gyms, so I am looking for something that will work for me.
Instead of talking to a training partner or singing which means we're breathing through our mouth, I think trying to breathe through our nose is healthier to get carbon dioxide and to keep our heart rate in a good zone. Can't be done during sprints obviously
WHERE were YOU BEFORE THE LOCKDOWNS?!?! Did you, Dr. Lyon, USE the last couple of years to get into shape? You're making the rounds all over the media lately... opportunistically?? I wouldn't be surprised.
WHY All all these ACCUSATIONS against Dr. Lyon about where she was b/4 Covid/after Covid? WTF? 😮 What's your (pointless) point??😅 FYI - Dr. Lyon was busy practicing Muscle-Centric medicine in her NY clinic in the years pre & post Covid. Additionally, she married and gave birth to two babies - a couple years apart - during the time you seem to be so obsessed over. 😂 Do some due diligence (if you can manage) b/4 you go off on your wild, pointless, accusatory rants against another, FFS!
Gunnar Peterson trains celebrities and professional athletes who use performance enhancing drugs and steroids. Most of their gains are due to steroids and less on the exercise that they do
Great topic but the amount of interruptions overall is too much for me. Gabrielle, let your guest talk and articulate his ideas and knowledge without cutting him off too often. Better timing interrupting, let the conversation flow and let the person finish the sentence, be patient. It comes across as rude when you talk over him when clearly he’s not done expressing his idea. Also, no need to ask the guest to repeat out loud something he just said, this is no high school. Delivering and consuming information in a podcast with an interview format has best practices for it to be effective.
Please take this as constructive criticism …your interviewing skills needs to improve…. You interrupted him so many times it didn’t allow the listener to digest what he was saying… I look forward to listening more of your content.
@@binathere2574Gabrielle. Her appearance has changed over the past 2-3 years. The bones in her face stick out from weight loss. She looks anorexic and looks ten years older compared to 3 years ago. She no longer looks healthy. Just my observation.
I love the way this guy thinks and does !!!
So glad Gunnar was a guest. I've seen him on a reality show on TV. He's so much more nicer and relatable here. I appreciate his message about doing your workout because it makes you feel good.
Hey, that’s my biggest fan. I love Gunnar. He has been so supportive of mark and I over the years. He even hung up my poster in his gym. The Bell brothers absolutely love both of you!❤
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I started lifting weights when I got type2 diabetes I learned as much as I could to fully recover,that led to a healthy lifestyle in general I fully recovered and resistance training saved my life
I started following Senior Shape Fitness a year ago - exactly what her routines promote! Whatever the age...🏋♀️
As 76 year old movement coach that has gone from a pro skiing background to training for the past 50 years, I’ve now directed myself and my clients to increase spatial awareness through a brain based approach, releasing tension caused by lack of predictive capabilities in the brain, therefore increasing abilities of resistance based training. Especially in an older population where explosive and eccentric movements are the first to go effectively eliminating fast twitch involvement.
Great advice!
Wow
I do think like him. I wake up figuring out which workouts I will do. I love the benefits! I am a clinical exercise physiologist, so definitely I have it deeply ingrained in this field.
This was incredible. Engaging the entire interview. He's the best. ❤
I like this Gunnar guy he is straight forward , intelligent, with lots of experience under his belt .
I greatly appreciate his flexibility and covering the very important aspects surrounding getting in the best shape of ones life such as the importance of sleep, eating healthy , stretching Ect
and gearing the program that best suits the clients needs.
I plan to put my own program together using his ideas , mixing it up a little .
Such humble king. Love you gunner ❤
Loved this podcast!!! Always been a fan of Gunnar and you Dr Lyon… I refer to you as my ‘smart girl’ to my friends… loving your book! Thanks for the great content 💗
When you have a coach like this you’re winning. Great job 👏🏾
Such a kind and humble man, greetings from Paris 🇨🇵 Yes gyms here open at 7 😅
The direction society is going and has been going for the last 100 years is not sustainable. Something has to give and unfortunately for most, it's their health. By not prioritizing your health you are absolutely shaving years off of your life. We have to start asking some serious questions about the way we live. Why are we working 70-80 work weeks EVERY week and still struggling financially? Why don't we have enough time in the day to prioritize self care and by that I would include cooking & consuming quality foods, incorporating some sort of morning routine like breath-work and/or meditation. Why are we chasing $$$ & success instead of longevity and quality time with family & friends? Why are we living like this? My great grand parents lived a completely different way of life and they were happy. I don't see many happy people out there. I see a lot of unhappy, unhealthy, broke people who are struggling with every day life and who wake up miserable because they're going to repeat what they did yesterday today and every day until they're dead. We are not meant to live this way.
So true! I watched a retirement video recently focused on early retirement - I wondered why they are not telling people just to live better? Apparently we live 'healthily' for about 60/5 years on average unless we make the effort to eat well and exercise regularly.
Interesting guest brings up topic of rotational exercise many don't work into our workout program.
A great rotational exercise that helps me develop more punching power on a heavy bag is using aweighted sledgehammer hitting a tire switching from left to right hand emphasizing the twist while raising weighted fitness sledgehammer.
This was a great and very useful show, thank you very much to both of you ❤
Just Purchased Forever Strong on Audible!
Dr Doug Mcguff says you don't need cardio if you are lifting weights.. he gives very good science why weight training increases collateral circulation. He has some great podcasts.
I love your content and so relevant to me especially training in three planes of motion and focusing on mobility. Keep up the great work! 💪🏼
Kettlebell swings and battling ropes work well in between set
Great talk with an awesome guest. Thank you! ❤
I have never heard of this guy before, and I loved his delivery.
Great methods and approach. Very similar to what I would do.
Solid episode. Will follow him soon..
n now u look like rocky after hearing this guy
Great episode! Thank you for sharing. 💪🏼
I've been lifting weights for 34 years. I used to read everything I could get my hands on by Author Jones and Mike Mentzer, Charles Poliquin. I still use the same principles today and I'm 57 and look like I'm 37. My body is still jacked and strong and my hormones and testosterone are still optimal. Keeping my hormones young definitely makes my skin look young I don't have any wrinkles or saggy skin.
this may be my all time fav video ever ... so much good information. this is awesome.
Good Job Guys‼️✌🏾
Thanks A Lot❤️
Super, concise, informative!
Great one !! I haven’t seen Gunnar in king time. Great 🎉
thanks for all the great info! your info has been very helpful in my muscle building journey.
I’m 61 … I’m a half marathoner type runner, but also lift weights 5 days a week .. guess you can call that Hybrid training. The weights are so U don’t get sarcopenia from all the running. So far so good.
How long should a beginner focus on recomp before focusing on hypertrophy?
Lifting is the one and only long term solution. You can run, jump and all, but most don't understand the power of it -> and not 5 pounds like the Kardashians would make you think... all the side-to-side movement conversation is also really important - how many times have people looked at me lifting and saying why do you go so hard and heavy? lol - But anyway, I'll be 50 next year, have been lifting for more than 20 years, and never felt so good. It really does work - for everyone.
Push, pull, legs is working well for me right now
Absolutely love this!!! ❤❤❤
Lighten up, Gabriel!!!
Sensible, practical and realistic.
You don't need to perform dynamic resistance training to build muscle.
As long as the muscle is under tension for long enough and with enough intensity it will adapt.
There's also no need to spend hours in the gym, that said you don't even need to visit the gym.
From personal experience, the more reps the more sets the more likely hood injury will come a knocking.
I can attest to how sleep is so underated and so overlooked.
Thank you Dr Gabrielle Lyon for uploading and sharing.
Ps please consider interviewing Dr Doug McGuff / Drew Baye.
I agree with you about injury being more likely to happen with several sets. Time under tension is very important.
@felipearbusstopotd
You seem to be overlooking his '3 planes of motion' advocacy for optimal (& functional) results.
Your 'time under tension' implys, to me, an isometric approach to resistance exercise(?)
Isometrics & static holds are very good for our connective tissue - but an effective resistence protocol to include muscle maintenance (& growth) requires more than 'muscle under tension '
@jeannedigennaro6484
TUT may have its place, but it's not everything.
As far as injury with more volume - sure- that may be true of someone with lousy technique.
Having correct technique is everything - losing or compromising proper technique is 'failure' - and will eventually lead to injury.
Volume, when properly performed does not lead to injury.
Love his methods and technique ❤❤
What do you think about functional patterns by Naudi Aguilar?
But what can we, the huge group of long covid sufferers do to maintain and build muscle if the heart rate spikes only with climbing some stairs…? It is hopeless, would you please share some thoughts on this? Are there any exercises that don‘t raise heart rate?
Very light weight to start with - I used soup cans , very easy resistance bands too. Start using the minimum you can manage, move up when that gets easy. You can start even sitting down, doing chair Pilates and chair yoga if your energy flags very quickly or your balance is questionable that day, there are tons of free videos here on UA-cam. Walk on level ground, including walking backwards if your balance and coordination allows.
I didn’t have long Covid but I almost died from severe acute Lyme disease in my central nervous system. I went from incredibly fit & busy with endless energy to severely debilitated - could barely walk without a walker, only maybe 10 steps with, or speak clearly, terrible coordination, weak and tired ALL the time, disrupted sleep. It took me over 2 years of hard work to get really functional again but I got there! Also I eat super healthy, make sure I sleep, minimize stress - lol, wim hof breathing, sauna and cold showers/baths to stimulate mitochondria recovery and support immune function. All the things I can think of that’s makes sense according to data. If you crash after exertion, whether that’s immediate or delayed a day or two consider using D-ribose, Dr Sarah Myhill in the UK has great info on her website and uses it with great success with many of her patients. I am well now, have been for a couple years. I am maybe 95% what I was, still have to be careful of my sleep and energy, listen to my body. But I can work all day, walk for miles, play with my granddaughter, garden, dance, do calisthenics and yoga and cycle. Almost anything I want to. Life is good and healing IS possible! The struggles of those with long Covid and many chronic conditions sound so much like what I’ve gone through I think they may have similar paths to recovery. At least clues of what to consider. Wishing you wellness 🙏
Start nattokinase to take out the spike proteins from the jab induced problem. Long covid is the cover for vax injury.
I love how Gunnar goes "case-by-case"...Gabriel seems pretty rigid in her approach
"You're gonna want to cheat on your bands." Great line. Made me laugh so hard!
Awesome interview really enjoyed when you guys spoke about the plans of motion especially the transverse plane, the energy system and the peripheral heart action system. Outstanding interview and great questions. Thank you for sharing
Good elite information for training
This was great!
Love this discussion.
I’m 60 years old I hadn’t worked out for probably 10 years, however I do have a physically demanding job which requires me to move a machine around that weighs nearly 300 pounds, and I have to lift it in and out of my van 3 to 4 times a day and bring it up and down the steps in peoples homes every day three or four times, but now I have added weight training and I am 5 foot eight I was 230 pounds last December 2022 I am now 185 pounds this morning and added creatine and everybody there has not seen me for a long time that has recently seen me, is Shocked
Well done
Great questions thank you.
Love the valuable information, THANKS!
I do these ten to 15 minutes HIIT sessions once or twice a week where I literally almost pass out. That is how alI guage whether Im near 180 or more easily
Resistance bands have many adaptive applications, including for balance doing heavy DB squats. I use specific weight associated bands for core lifts on the high bar.: My abs are as defined as a man can get. 8 pack. want pictures? I got 'em. I'm 72. great information. Thank you Ma'am, Sir.
Haha😅
...offering proof photo's on a platform where it's impossible to upload said photos.
Lol ..nice, but impotent, try!😁😅
YES, he mentions Pat Mac (Pat Macnamera). Gunnar and Pat should colab.
Love all of this but I can’t do hiit bc of my back . I can’t do lunges or squats either. I have a genetic stenosis condition that is making working out nearly impossible. It’s so hard to not be able to use your body the way you know you should be
If you have access to a pool, there's a lot you can do to get your heart rate up, even without putting your head in the water or swimming. Working out in water has enormous benefits for your joints, muscles, neurological and cardiovascular systems.
@juliefitzgerald-frangos2211 I recommend Dr. Joe Dispenza's work here on UA-cam.
Is reformer Pilates considered weight training?
Hell yes! It’s resistance training and if you are doing it right, it’s kickass!
@@meatvenus Thank you! Phew, I feel better. I daresay I'm doing it right -- no cheating.
@@queenredspecial
Hmmm. Highly debatable that one can sub lifting weights with reformer pilates and effectively maintain/grow muscle and strength.
This is because reformer Pilates does not employ periodization or strategically increasing weight-load for adaptation.
Periodization & overload - that an effective lifting protocol would employ is required for adaptation. Adaption is required for muscle growth/maintenance.
And we do not get this continued adaptation with Pilates.
Also, pilates employs only 1 mivement plane, right?
E.g, sagital movement - back/forth- no rotation movement, AFAIK.
@@barbarafairbanks4578 thank you. Reformer P does offer multiple plane movements and weight can be increased, but probably there is a better way to get the weigh lifting in. I am a novice and averse to gyms, so I am looking for something that will work for me.
is her book any good any one read it ?
Air assault bikes are awesome 👌
1:12:00 👍
I definitely cheated on my bands with kettlebells at some point, lol. Now I just mix 'em.
I wish he is little more clear about rotating/rotation exercises. I need better examples
ua-cam.com/video/I7stbfs4s0Y/v-deo.htmlsi=-dllKY54njDXbm-L
Google will help
Instead of talking to a training partner or singing which means we're breathing through our mouth, I think trying to breathe through our nose is healthier to get carbon dioxide and to keep our heart rate in a good zone. Can't be done during sprints obviously
People naturally progress from bands to weights. They're going to cheat on those bands. 😀 LOL It's true for me.
Sagittal divides left and right….
Really great info, him. Her I struggle with. Talks and interrupts too much for my taste.
She interrupts too much. Otherwise, very informative.
20:00 HIITs
37:00 implement HIIT in your Weight training ('9's training)
The only tracking needed is " what was my intensity?"
My heart rate sores when I do compound sets
And so it should. 😀
It was hard to follow. Terminology was foreign to me.
Check out Pat MacNamera (Pat Mac). He covers this fairly thoroughly.
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Dr. Gabrielle, wait till you are 73, like me. You’ll need food and rest for at least 1/2 hr. I hope your fitness club has a cafe!
WHERE were YOU BEFORE THE LOCKDOWNS?!?! Did you, Dr. Lyon, USE the last couple of years to get into shape? You're making the rounds all over the media lately... opportunistically?? I wouldn't be surprised.
WHY All all these ACCUSATIONS against
Dr. Lyon about where she was b/4 Covid/after Covid?
WTF? 😮
What's your (pointless) point??😅
FYI - Dr. Lyon was busy practicing Muscle-Centric medicine in her NY clinic in the years pre & post Covid.
Additionally, she married and gave birth to two babies - a couple years apart - during the time you seem to be so obsessed over. 😂
Do some due diligence (if you can manage) b/4 you go off on your wild, pointless, accusatory rants against another,
FFS!
Gunnar Peterson trains celebrities and professional athletes who use performance enhancing drugs and steroids. Most of their gains are due to steroids and less on the exercise that they do
@jessantiago1
Your skewed opinion.
Stop stating your opinions as objective fact.
Or do you even recognize the difference?
I have my doubts 😅
Great topic but the amount of interruptions overall is too much for me. Gabrielle, let your guest talk and articulate his ideas and knowledge without cutting him off too often. Better timing interrupting, let the conversation flow and let the person finish the sentence, be patient. It comes across as rude when you talk over him when clearly he’s not done expressing his idea. Also, no need to ask the guest to repeat out loud something he just said, this is no high school. Delivering and consuming information in a podcast with an interview format has best practices for it to be effective.
Nah, too much exercise. I rather listen and do dr Doug McGuff method, less is more.
Until gunnar explains his weird texts to kanye his credibility is at less than zero
Damn...just keep interrupting your guest. Geez.
Not my favorite interview. Too much geared towards newbies.
Just do crossfti it takes care of all this.
Please take this as constructive criticism …your interviewing skills needs to improve…. You interrupted him so many times it didn’t allow the listener to digest what he was saying… I look forward to listening more of your content.
Why is nobody talking about how thin and unhealthy looking things are getting?
Things?
I did yesterday
The first thing I thought when I started watching this is WHAT IN THE HECK HAS SHE DONE TO HER FACE? She looks like a skeleton. :(
Yes, very gaunt.
@@binathere2574Gabrielle. Her appearance has changed over the past 2-3 years. The bones in her face stick out from weight loss. She looks anorexic and looks ten years older compared to 3 years ago. She no longer looks healthy. Just my observation.
He doesn’t have science behind his proclamations. All anecdotal.
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