5 Most Incompetent Jedi Masters
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- It takes a long time to become a Jedi Master, but it doesn't necessarily mean you've learned anything
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I can see why Anakin was so insulted to not be made a master when the standards were so low.
Ikr i mean c'mon "master" Colman trebor? Whoever granted him that shit should be demoted to janitor. That nigga said "Im GoInG aFtEr doOku" but could barely survive basic blasts from jango🙄
who not even five minutes later was decapitated by Mace Windu
@@landrylongacre6391 right and mace GLIDED through those blasts.
Right? People act like Anakin was being unrealistic but he was clearly one of the best Jedi...
sorrydear, butiloveyoumore you didn’t have to go off like that 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
To cheat death is a power only one has achieved... *Shaak Ti*
Even the darkside of the force can't show u the pathway to that ability
@Ridge frost underrated comment that made me laugh 😂
Yes
To cheat death is a power only one has... um, 2 have, oh wait, more like 4 have achieved.
2:18 Pause and just look at it.
“The jedi had precognition abilities” *palpatine laughs in order 66*
I think is more like Spiderman sense, they know that there is danger but in a battlefield enviroment where there is danger everywhere it's very difficult to pintpoint the source of it
@lukedalton A very good point. Though Ki-Adi Mundi had a little more power in the force as he wasn't shot in the back but faced the troopers before they fired at him. As for Aayla Secura, she only had a brief second to sense what was coming before being gunned down.
Wasn't part of the order 66 order meant to happen unanimously so all the jedi were being executed / put down across the galaxy at one moment so there was large cry or echo within the force that would weaken the more attuned and powerful jedis connection in the force, making them sense the pain of all the padawans and knights being slaughtered and in fear to ensure that the clones could use this weakness to guarantee the eliminate the masters
Plot armor is a fickle beast.
@Jason Bailey i wouldn't be surprised if he contacted the first commander and sent a recording of him calling the order to all the others so it all happened at once, then again wasn't part the plan to eliminate some of the weaker less train jedi first so the suffering would blind the masters in the force
"Had Ahsoka Tano not come to her rescue she most likely would have died". She definitely would have died. Ventress was about to impale her.
Luminara Unduli: Follows the rules and teaches Barris to be good.
Look how well that turned out!
@@sophiawhitfield2443 maybe a little too well...she realized the Jedi were evil and plotting to take over even before Darth Vader did...
I guess the phrase “Jedi master” doesn’t mean that much 😂
I mean knowing disney they could have revived her if she died and they needed a reason for her to be alive
Yo i thought it was a padawan that jango killed i remember seeing it with a friend and laughing BUT HE WAS A MASTER BRUH
Inyalga Ico And a master on the Jedi council smh
Not only that, but legends says he was defensive specialist.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 HA
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 the fuck? Why do that? Is it to make jango look stronger?
@@technounionrepresentative4274 it's the only possible explanation.
the problem with that is that it just makes Coleman look like an even bigger failure because Jango did nothing a B1 couldn't do to kill him.
Coleman Trebor is the Jedi equivalent of that one clone that ran up to the droid to punch it.
Yeah...you got a point there.
@FEEESH yea but he tried to punch it... not rip its head of or something
@@micahleinbach5329 at least his tactic was later used to great efficiency by a fellow 212th trooper on Utapau
In revenge of the sith another clone punches a droid and actually kills it and lives to fight another day. It was during the battle of utapau and was in the 212.
@@eriksmith3089 sorry I didn't scroll down
Shaak Ti, like most Togrutas, lived in a society that valued group cohesion over individual achievement. Initiative and individual expression wasn't regarded very highly, which explains why she never made her own investigation into the Clone Conspiracy.
Ahsoka isn't like this at all, which could also explain why she was given to the equally headstrong Anakin to train.
Wasn't Shaak Ti raised by the Jedi Order?
@@koenigkorczak Is this a Nature VS. Nuture question?
@@koenigkorczak At first
If anakin and rex were there when fives presented the evidence I think things would have gone a lot differently. Also, Shaak Ti really didn't sense or realize that Fives was getting drugged by the kaminoan scientist? She was literally 5 feet away when it happened? Some Jedi master if she couldn't realize anything was out of place there.
That’s racist bro
Shaak Ti: * dies *
Also Shaak Ti 10 minutes later: *walking normally through the Jedi Temple*
Scene was deleted for a reason
@@ChungusTheLarge
the thing is. Shaak Ti dies in alot of scenes yes some are deleted but its still funny how she always dies
@@ddm_gamer They are ALL deleted.
@@thescruffinator8830
in the films? Yes. But in some non canon star wars games she also dies. In force unleashed and in one of the lego star wars games. Also in the clone wars series yoda had a vision where he saw shaak ti die. I can send you a comp video of it
@@ddm_gamer non-canon is just really long deleted scenes, and the vision in TCW was one time she died. meaning she doesn't CONSTANTLY die, she dies once.
Droid: "Count Dooku, we have retaken Umbara. The Jedi commander wishes to speak with you".
Count Dooku: Just kill him.
Krell never once considered that this conversation might happen
Zyggy Baranowski under-freakin-rated comment
Except as far as count dooku knew the Jedi commander was Anakin
@@calebhehl3404 "oh, you're not who I was hoping for..."
"Count dooku, I'm here to talk to you abou-"
"Don't care" *Stabs him*
Actually Krell was one of the most powerful jedi in the order at the time. I doubt Dooku would have killed him without considering taking him in.
@@strykorder1661 would have been a dark acolyte aka force fueled cannon fodder
Pong Krell: Notice me Dooku Senpai!
😆
Those episodes hit hard especially when the clones started shooting each other
Erebus in Ultra Warp Grimdark Hell with Coil and Maeglin: "So, when's that four armed fuck going to join us?"
@Charles Stewart Hentai with Senpai
Hey got an early Order 66 in return.
You got Luminara so perfect. She was TOO perfect, to the point where she wasn’t. I honestly blame Luminara for Barriss’s fall to the dark side. Sucks we didn’t get to see Luminara’s reaction to it
But Luminara trained Zofia well. Zofia is an ex-Soviet military officer, and she is from planet Earth. She became Luminara's new Jedi apprentice to stay in the light side forever.
@@joeperry1322 but isnt everything supposed to be happening you know... A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY.
How the hell did a soviet made it there
@@anastpro1558 Rainbow six 😂:D
So are we blaming Obi Wan for Anakins fall, because he let him get away with very much and let him play everything super loose??
@@Rwoarr Yes'nt
Colman Trebor- what happens when you forgot you put all your skill points into diplomacy, and none into combat.
There are more positions in the Jedi order than just being a warrior
@@Rwoarr And there are more missions a diplomat can take instead of joining the front lines of a battlefield.
If I recall, dude straight up had almost no combat training but still went to save others. Noble, but ultimately foolish.
Colman Trebor's SPECIAL and traits
Strength - 0
Perception - 7
Endurance - 1
Charisma - 7
Intelligence - 4
Agility - 0
Luck - 0
Traits
The Negotiator - + 25 Speech
Swordplay - +10 Melee Weapons
You forgot to mention Luminara's recklessness that got her captured in the episode "Legacy of Terror". Also, she clearly did a terrible job teaching Barris Offee
Nuclear Films Seemed like she did enough to make Barris see the truths the Jedi liked to ignore about themselves, but nowhere near enough to teach her an appropriate response to it.
@@Mgauge Problem with that is Luminara followed the Jedi code too well at being emotionally detached. We see this further in the recent Ahsoka arc where she tries to "comfort" the Martez sisters who just lost their parents by saying "The force is with you" like that's gonna make them feel better.
yeah even I could have trained Barris better!
The only thing Luminara did well was act as a beacon for the Grand Inquisitor
Oh yeah that dumb sh*t
Jango fett: wait do you think fall damage is enabled?
Colemen trebor: *let me check*
*thumbnail in a nutshell*
Comment of the day
That's clever
Too soon bro
Colemen trebor in spectator mode: *it is*
@@app4902 it's been 17 years since ur majesty has died
Why did I imagine Shaak Ti doing a PowerPoint presentation for Palpatine
Because it's just such a "Shaak Ti" thing to do.
It's what comes to mind when you hear, "presentation," in the context of providing information to someone, especially with how ubiquitous PowerPoint is.
No one:
Shaak Ti: "chancellor Palpatine, in this presentation, I will share with you that there is something wrong with the inhibitor chips in the clones. As you can see..." *dies by changing to the next slide*
Palpatine: "ironic"
We all did.
I’d make the argument that Mace Windu suffered from some incompetence. While his power was vast, his forsight wasn’t. He played a massive role in Anakin turning to the dark side, and had he showed Anakin some trust, Anakin would likely have been more willing to go along with the Jedi Council’s requests.
Luminara is ironically what many would consider an ideal Jedi atleast on paper, skilled in the Force and Lightsaber techniques as well as being emotionally detached...and it's those same traits that pretty much perfectly show why the Jedi were so flawed at that point in time.
Say what you will about the Martez sister arc, it highlights another Luminara screw up
@@mechengr1731, wait a second. That was f*cking Luminara that Rafa was talking about in that episode? Holy f*cking sh*t. I did not know that.
Jedi Master Shaak Ti was one of the most powerful and skilled Fighters the Jedi Order had
and yet I still dont really disagree with what you said... :D
Matthias Fiedler she dies so many times like 3
4
I love her but even I know she was done dirty
She is as stronge as count dooku Cuz she has the same fighting Stile and Yoda said so
Well to be fair Anakin did sneak up on her while she was meditating.Even though Jedi are "supposed" to be able to sense what is happening around them through the force.Guess her mind was elsewhere.😛
To be fair, Coleman Trebor's move was unforseen by Dooku and if he had swung the lightsaber he would've ended the war right there, technically he was the closest a jedi to kill Dooku until Anakin actually did it.
"It's hard to be a Jedi Master"
Me, who plays Lego SW: The Complete Saga on Wii: B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B
lego lol
“A hero potato” also known as Ki-Adi Mundi.
@Ki-Adi Mundi Sorry sir.
@Ki-Adi Mundi I agree
Spoilers
How does Ahsoka fend off clones firing at point blank range completely surrounded and ninja vanishes away and Ki-Adi Mundi can't yeet away to another one of those bridges...
@@Gbari7 Very good point. I don't know how they didn't see her go up in the roof. As for me, I was being fired on by many more troopers and droids at the same time. I did make a video of my possible survival though.
@Ki-Adi Mundi Yes my non flesh counterpart, long time no see. I hope things have been better in your reality.
I don't see pong krell as incompetent
Delusional yes, but incompetent no he was actually skilled in trickery while he was overconfident he was not stupid but that's just my opinion.
onepiecebuff 3 I agree.
Yea pongo krelli was actually
Quite good just because he didn't abide by the Jedi order's
Rules doesn't make him incompetent
I think he meant incompetent in judgment of assuming Count Duku would connect the dots to make him an apprentice. Also his lack of a contingency plan in case shyt hit the fan. To me he’s the perfect example of great strategic book smarts but lacking in the common sense department.
Krell wasn’t incompetent, he was a brutal tactician that very nearly singlehandedly turned around the Battle of the Umbara in the Separatist favour, he sent the 501st and the 212th two of the most elite clone battalions through the entire Clone Wars. He was very under-utilised, he could’ve been a powerful ally to the Sith, perhaps he could’ve even become an inquisitor in the time of the Empire. The mere fact that through his physiology he can wield two double bladed lightsabers is just awesome in and of itself. He was prideful and supremely overconfident, with a god complex over the clones to be sure and he did lack a bit of common sense in not preparing for the eventuality of discovery to a better degree, an escape plan (which I don’t think was too important as I’ll explain further on) or even contacting Dooku hitherto the mission. As I said, Krell was very overconfident and if he had not been followed by some clever artifice from Tup, he’d have most likely escaped, because come on, he was shredding the clones, no a single master bolt penetrated his guard for God sake, he even took them on without lightsabers just to flex his power. Additionally Krell may well be one of the most enlightened Jedi of all time, he foresaw Order 66 and the collapse of the Republic, something that not even Yoda could do until too late.
@@technounionrepresentative4274 he didn't follow the rules because he was literally a few days from being a sith
1:31 Colman Trebor be liek: LEEROOYYY JJJENKINSS!!!
YES
Luminara is the one Jedi so focused on the rules that she expects the bad guys to play fair.
Pong Krell is a mutated potato(4 arms).
Haha made my day
Hes dexter jettster in disguise
@@ratbat1072 WELLLLL WHADDDYA KNOW *pulls lightsabers out from under apron*
True
Is chernobyl potato blyat
pong krell may have fell to the dark side but you gotta admit that his skill as a duelist was something to behold
He only fought Clones though. Children with lightsabers have been shown to be able to take down a few Clones before being gunned down, the fact he ran into the jungle (the hardest place the Clones have ever fought in) and was still defeated really only shows how average he was.
@@RandomVideoCommenterOME i just mean that he was not only able to use a double bladed saber, which was difficult in itself, but 2 double bladed sabers and not cut him self is impressive
@@RandomVideoCommenterOME Yes. A few clones like 2 or 3. But Pong Krell fought nearly the entire 501'st (plus some other battalions) that was on the ground. You kinda underestemating clones.
Tbh he would've given maul a run for his money since pong dual wielded dual lightsaber.
If he would have made it to Dooku, just imagine Grievous physical powers with force choke, lightning bolts and force push...
Straight up op properly written. He was doomed from the start, who cares about savage opress as a brute grunt when Pong Krell was around.
The painful truth: Sometimes you're just Coleman trebor 😂💔💔
Along with characters like General Grievous, Shaak Ti was another character that was nerfed.
Back in the 2003 Clone Wars micro series she was a force to be reckon with.
My first thought when I read the title was "Coleman Trebor"
He’s the one on the thumbnail
Gavin L bro same but I didn’t know his name I just knew him as the dinosaur Jedi
So you talking shit bout my homie Coleman trembor
@@adrianarias986 how dare they
Adrian Arias lets roll up with some order 66 gang shit on these haters
I’m so glad he mentioned Shaak Ti. I was screaming at the screen that entire episode.
I was screaming at the screen during the battle of umbara
shaak ti was forced to look dumb, someone of her skill could’ve easily found what was wrong with the chip, the plot felt really forced in that arc, i liked it anyway
@@DivineBeastVahMedoh I'm totally with you, I mean she is in the top 5 of the strongest Jedi in the clone wars or even in the Top 3
Clone Wars 2003 Shaak Ti was much better.
I feel like Allen is slowly descending into madness and I love it
You forgot Yaeael Poof who died on the death-star working as a cafeteria cook when the rebels blew it up.
He was so weak that he took over 20 years to get pizza.
Nice to see these Jedi "Masters" make it into The Hall of Infamy
Everywhere!
You are at every video I watch
Will you stop commenting, FOR FIVE MINUTES?!
You need a life man,you're in every comment section.
@@ravept2917 no f-u I find this enjoyable and so do a lot of other people.
Now i get it... Allen = Alien (second "l" is just a capital "i") and that pro human attitude is just a cover up!
Potato
I ruined it I made it 67 like
.........ILLUMINARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry. And yes, that was Illuminate and Luminara together.
Fubu Maruda, That sounds just what an alien spy would say to frame Allen
God dammit drake
Nah, the most incompetent Masters are the ones that just stood there like idiots while Palpatine stabbed them
Nah they aren’t incompetent they were killed so easy because of plot convenience.
I love how they were so incompetent that they had to retcon that scene later by saying that palpatine stunned them or something
@@glctcthnkr8059 It's called Force Scream
Gotta remember that Windu also had shatterpoint which allowed him to see the perfect opportunities and vulnerabilities in combat. That’s how he defeated Jango. He saw the weak spot of his armor and took advantage of it.
Don't forget Agen Kolar. Doesn't do anything in the films or the Series, and is the first to be killed by Palpatine in ROTS.
Calvin Matthews bruh it took me years to learn that he and Eeth Koth weren’t the same
yea but stepping up to THE sith dark lord and getting owned is not that bad, sidius knows all lightsaber forms and is incredibly tapped into the dark side, windu brought jedi masters who are known for their skills for this occasion yet even kit fisto who was the master best utilizing form 1 could barely stand against sidius
And maybe he was trying to do something to make up for not, like taking on sideous.
@@exoblade7620 you are technically correct according to the movie but in the novel version he lasted longer and yes it was because he was a master in form 1, the movie screwed him over majorly in my opinion
@@aidenmcclendon5457 well i think they did that cuz in a book you can write it in a way that the reader can tell the vast superiority of 1 side, cuz they have more "space" whil in a movie the runtime and overall visual base made it that either they drag it out, speed it up, or make it really short to be able of showcasing it
“Were Jedi masters for crying out loud” - Mace -how it should have ended
Brian Stabile *We’re
No
I think u really Are totally wrong about Shaak Ti, she was one of the most powerful Jedi, the order had during that time, and she was pretty useful at the battle of Kamino while Anakin and Kenobi were fighting Ventress and Grievous, Shaak Ti was in the lead of the battle and she fought at the front also she IS NOT to blame about the fact order 66 would have stopped, she acted and reacted in the same way each of us would have. She believed fives but then couldn’t cause she’s been manipulated
And if the supreme chancellor wants to see fives, should she just say no?
No front mate but Pls do you research before calling a Jedi like Shaak Ti incompetent
Some stuff about luminara is justified but she was definitely NOT incompetent
She followed the Jedi code, was decent skilled and was exactly what a Jedi master is supposed to be
I agree on the other Jedi in this video tho
Allen explained what he would have done if he was shaken to, and pointed the lumenara was skilled but lacked critical thinking needed for a warrior. He's not saying none the people on the list are completely useless,but that out of all the people called master he they are the most inept.
Kye Dysarthria he’s still totally wrong about shaak ti
@@l.r.5255 if you feel that way then fine.
Yes! I agree!
And why tf would you even take that info to the CHANCELLOR,its a JEDI matter,its the JEDI fighting along the clones,a JEDI who was killed by one,why even go to old palpy boi
Shaak Ti didn't "decide" to bring the clone to palps, she was just heeding his requests/orders like every other Jedi at the time. She also listened to Fives and had no reason to doubt the Kaminoans' research. Just because she was in charge of overseeing the clones' training doesn't mean she can be blamed for Order 66 because palps had the entire Jedi council fooled as well as everyone else involved. It wasn't Shaak's responsibility to speculate about or even doubt the chancellor... if anything that would have been up to Yoda or Mace. Just sticking up for one of my favorite Jedi of the clone wars.
Simping for the worst jedi master in sw
Even if it wasn’t it’s called common sense I mean there has to be some curiosity there. If Rex can figure it out with less resources she could have. She’s a cheesy melty mongoloid.
YES THANK YOU 100% agree!!! Hindsight makes everyone think that they would’ve done better. You can’t blame one person for everything. If anything, these haters are the same people who probably think they could take on Darth Sidious...like Coleman Trebor but ok go off lol
Dee Huilen just shut up. Ur a 2 shot kill from Jango Fett.
"Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew"
-Samwise Gamgee on how to cook a Jedi.
So dark.
Ahh yes, how all Jedi should be eaten.
Deus Vult shut up you dumb fool eat more McDonald’s!
Mc Soda you again?! You fool I told you not to mess with me!
Deus Vult I’m back you little fool you thought you could come to some random video without answering your crimes I think not fool.
For the most incompetent sith it's definitely palpatine because he can't seem to notice that he gets beaten all the time by his own lightning bolts
I can excuse that time against windu in revenge of the sith, but against rey? It made him seem like a noob who only knew one good move and didn't know what to do when he met someone who can counter it instead of one of the smartest and most powerful dark side users ever.
its arguable that he let windu cuck him in ep 3 so that anakins journey to the dark side would be complete
Lmao
@@kingpablothe1stoverlordoft871 in Obi Wan´s voice "That business with The Rise of Skywalker didn´t count"
Well when Vader yeeted him down that shaft he kinda fucked up too.
Damn dude. Tell us how you really feel about the Kaminoans.
Colman Trebor is a legend
I can't say mace mindu's name without thinking mace window
His last name foreshadow the way how he is going to get defeated and not just him..... Thrawn too because he is being thrown away lol
Mace went out the windu....
@@kast2286 Stop.
The jedi are not military commanders and are hero potatoes. Great video
it's great when someone gets it
@@GenerationTech cool
@@GenerationTech im very disappointed that you didnt reference these Jedi as those that had "gone full potato"
Many parts of the Expanded Universe disagree with you. Jedi were generals, soldiers, war leaders, and they had a good track record for 25K years. That 15K years more than the Imperium of Man, since they were older than the Republic and agreed to join them after the Republic was founded. Chewbacca's tribe learned how to fight due to Qui-Gon Jinn instructing them, and Dooku was an expert war leader who trained impressive military generals like Sev'Rance Tann and General Grievous. Revan and Malak were two more examples, since the former destroyed the Mandalorian armada, and the latter, when he went rogue, nearly destroyed the Republic. Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi are two more examples of great military leaders, and we see them outwit all sorts of foes, from the comical to the deadly serious. There's also Echuu Shen-Jon, Aayla Secura, Plo Koon, among others. There's a reason why Leia wanted to fetch Obi-Wan, why she made a stop on Tatooine: Obi-Wan was to be the Rebellion's war leader. That's right: if everything went according to plan, Kenobi would practically be the Rebellion's shogun. They wouldn't trust a Jedi with that much power if he wasn't good at war, and we saw him explain imperial tactics to Luke a few moments after they met.
@@HolyknightVader999 Yeah but not all Jedi were good leaders. Plus the Jedi order from the movies did have any war experience since ~ 1000 year. Plus can you recommend any good star wars legends books
For Luminara:
"No plan survives contact with the enemy."
That's from Moltke
You forgot to mention how badass Shak ti was in the force unleashed
Shaak Ti was a great fighter, but I feel like there was so much more that she could have done. I think Star Wars did her injustice by not giving her enough screen time. She was a really good fighter, especially in the battle of Kamino, and if Palatine hadn’t made fives seem like he was trying to assassinate Palpatine, she might have presented it to the Jedi council, as she did seem to believe Fives. Also, she managed to hold up against General Grievous for some time. In Legends, she was actually a very good fighter. I think Star Wars just made her too minor of a character for a Jedi that supervised the cloning process.
Avyay Ramaswamy she was great in Force Unleashed
It would be interesting if the Jedi had like a Spec Ops unit.
Jedi shadows?
Quinlan Vos
@Ellisar Atranimus well I meant more like Jedi Ninjas
@@Raeinok Jedi Shadows.
It seems everyone else has already mentioned them, but Jedi shadows.
Did you know Coleman trebor spelled backwards is "Robert Nameloc"
This isn't a coincidence Coleman Kcaj is "Jack Nameloc"
and your point is...
@@yeoldeseawitch its cool
When you were talking about Luminara, I was surprised you didn't mention Barriss Offee and Ahsoka getting trapped in a cave-in and she's like "WELP, THAT'S JUST HOW THE FORCE WORKS. GUESS THEY'RE DEAD. I'LL INFORM THE ORDER."
Guys I think he going crazy. I believe him to have lost his way of the carrot side
You traitor! You dare refuse the way of the turnip?
@@milaan_tm only the weak fall to the turnip side
Seth VanDerLinden this is gonna be the weirdest lightsaber fight...
Wait is the carrot side supposed the be the light side and turnip the dark? What about the potato side
@@JohnWhiteHere you have clearly never watched Spaceballs
Behind the scenes:
Producer: " Hey, Alan, i bet you 10 bucks you can't fit 20 mentions of potato in a star wars video"
Alan: "Watch this"
lol
Excuse me? Shakk Ti is an extremely capable and competent jedi master.
Got killed at least four times and returned back to the living as nothing ever happened makes her quite competent for sure
Generation tech: Puts coleman on the list
"It's outrageous, its unfair."
"My name is Allen Potato"
LOL!
That profile picture though
You get chips from potatoes
Potatoes are biological
Therefore biochips come from potatoes…
I've got to warn … _[blaster firing]_
For the barris offree and luminara one, Helmut Von Moltke's quote "No plan survives contact with the enemy" suits them perfectly as they plan but it never works out well for them
I’ve never heard the word “potato” so many times in a Star Wars video
Me: sees the video’s title
Me: “This will be interesting.”
... Am I out of the loop on the whole potato thing or is everyone as confused as me
I think it might be that a potato would make a better Jedi than some of these
So I'm not the only confused one
Glad I stumbled upon this channel, I feel like I'm being lectured by a competent Jedi Master. Theirs a serenity and chill vibes to the presentation. Keep up the high content bro.
“Coleman Trebor lacked a mastery of combat.” Yeah right. Wookieepedia itself said that Coleman’s skills with a lightsaber were legendary. While it is true that Jango Fett was a master bounty hunter and a skilled shot, I think the only reason Fett won that exchange was luck. And possibly because Trebor was focused on Dooku.
Most Jedi at the time of the clone wars couldn't lead, haven't even seen real battle ever, were shit tacticians, and still threw themselves in the middle of a battle or harms way.
Don't mistake stupidity for bravery. Don't mistake ignorance for courage. Jedi were not the heros and warriors they were often portrayed as.
This guy gets it.
Ironic, considerin their Code states "There is no ignorance, there is knowledge".
It's not like they've won many battles or something
@@nobleman9393 At the beginning, man. They were absolutely unfit for roles as Generals, yet they were given those positions without question.
Were they stuck with droids, they would've lost the war within the fist year, I'd say. The clones carried them.
@@olafgurke4699 so you're telling me I'm not a copper in rainbow six siege, I'm a JEDI? 🤣
Colman trebor was the Jedi that got closest to duku other than Windu during the arena fight making him one of the two strongest fighters there, change my mind
This guys right
Its the exact same thing as dying from one clone trooper
@@CHANN3L_NAME he died against a seasoned mandalorian who was the head of the fett clan and fought against death watch in a war and is far more skilled than a clone trooper he trained
@@shonwalker7501
Yes, because all of his years of experience translates into how quickly and accurately he shot his blaster.
@@danielflanard8274 yes it makes his reaction time and precision far superior to a regular clone and his experience of fighting and killing jedi allows him to know where and when to aim and the jedis form contributed to his downfall which was niman or form 6 which is weak to blaster fire as all the jedi who died in the arena against the battle droids were niman practitioners
Where’s Ajan Kolar? He literally turned his back on the Sith lord and just let palpitine stab him
But he was a great duelist. He whooped a jedi knight Quinlan Vos before Episode 2. And is a top jedi duelist. He just had a brain glitch. Hes one of Windu's most trusted jedi
Most Jedi didn’t focus on lightsaber skills before the clone wars because there wasn’t much threat in the universe as they thought the Sith were extinct so that is why there were so many losses during the rescue attempt on Geonosis including Coleman Trebor
Darth Maul proved otherwise. 10 years of training should be enough to get basic blaster deflection skills and combat techniques and at least Yoda and Windu knew about it
5: Kavar
4: Zez-Kai Ell
3: Lonna Vash
2: Atris
1: Vrook Lamar
Vrook, i can agree, hes an asshole
I don't know who anyone who these guys are
fergus hebbert play kotor
Sees this list: *NEEEEEEERRRRRRDDD!* 😂
NWPGK81 *Query: may i please terminate this meatbag master, it would bring me much joy to my cold exoskeleton?*
Legends continuity had it that Trebor had taken Dooku by surprise; if not for Jango Fett, he might have killed Dooku then and there with that element of surprise.
He only used 0.00005% of his power
Sooooo, why would Dooku (a dedicated duelist and one of the few with a modicum of experience having been the commander during the Battle of Galidraan) not be focusing on using his precognition at max power since there were, y'know, blaster bolts being deflected in all directions. It might be specialized precog geared towards the actions/intentions of living beings so not very good for friendly fire, but ideal for the bolts a few users of Shien and Soresu must've tried aiming their deflections in that direction given most of the CIS high command were literally just standing there with no cover or shields.
@@branphillips9546 you mean the same arrogant bastard that has been captured by Hondo Honaka? Dooku is a supreme fighter and the worthy student of Yoda (in the sense of capacity and power) but it's also a very arrogant and extremely self-confident man
@@lukedalton Fair enough.
Please tell me I'm not the only person who is extremely confused about the repeated use of the word potato for seemingly no reason
Shaak ti? If anything shes underrated
Lets see… incompetent Jedi - checklist time.
Lets the entire Jedi Order get destroyed on his watch _[worse fail ever]._
Lets the Republic that has stood for thousands of years get overthrown and replaced by the Galactic Empire - based on Sith principles. _[also pretty bad]._
His own Apprentice is instrumental in the destruction _[okay, Obi-Wan shares that distinction]._
Had plenty of chances to see it coming and failed to recognise them _[actually pretty common, but when you're the boss… the galactic credit stops with you]._
Oversaw the gradual corrosion and corruption of the Republic and the degradation of the outer rim *over centuries,* along with tolerating a massive slavery problem - when he had the resources and personnel to do something about it generations before it came to a head. The conditions that Sidious exploited, he allowed to fester. _[Really, the Jedi were just twiddling their thumbs under his guidance]._
Encouraged a closed mindset in the Jedi Order and persecuted any deviation from a very narrow viewpoint, thus making the Order very inflexible and ossified, leading to stagnation. _[imagine if the teachings of other Orders were examined with a open mindset and any useful aspects co-opted, and the Orders tolerated - imagine if the abilities of the Grey Jedi were considered just another Form of combat and not a heresy]_
Being so uncomfortable about sexual issues that he has the entire Order living a celibate lifestyle - cause that never causes problems in a closed religious order. _[High Midiclorin counts are a genetic trait, by stopping anyone who's been identified with a high count from reproducing, he is removing them from the gene pool - imagine a Bene Gesserit style breeding program, in a little while there works be a lot more powerful Jedi to train, and they would be born and raised in-house without the issue of "kidnapping"]_
And it leads to emotional issues when a Jedi falls for someone, that can lead them to the Dark side due to the emotional conflict. _[if Anakin had been allowed to openly have a relationship with Padme he might not have gone postal. The Jedi Order really needed a reformation movement which allows married ̶P̶r̶i̶e̶s̶t̶ M̶i̶n̶i̶s̶t̶e̶r̶s…I mean Knights]._
When it all went to Bantha droppings and the Order was wiped out and the Republic fell, his counter move was to go hide in a swamp and sulk - hoping that salvation would just crash land in the nearest pond. _[okay, that actually did work. But you have to admit _*_it was a lucky longshot._*_ A far better option would be to gather as many survivors of the purge as possible, and do a runner to the unknown regions. Set up a mobile base and start a new Order with as many recruits as you can safely get, teaching them to hide from Force detection as their first lesson. And that includes the children of your enemy, one of whom is the most powerful natural Force users of his generation - leaving him untrained on a moisture farm is just a waste of potential, and what if he joins the Empire or his dad is feeling sentimental (which is in character) and decides to check on the fam? And raising siblings apart and then letting them meet each other without knowing they're related - that's just a incest risk]._
Relying on a FLUKE, that's just a abbreviated way of saying Fucking LUKE.
So this Jedi master is one of the most skilled individual fighters - and one of the worst leaders in galactic history.
Would you hire him for a managerial position?
TBH I think Yoda was tired of all this shit so he and Sideous made a plan so he could retire in peace. It makes sense when we see Yoda in Ep V acting mischievous. He’s just being himself. Poor green thing didn’t know what he gotten himself into
Don't forget that despite his "pacifist" ideals for his order, he WILLINGLY allowed his Jedi peacekeepers with no military experience to become soldiers and killers, completely contradicting his ideals. He ALSO gave clearance for a fourteen year old child to go into a massive campaign on Christophsis, which is literally a war crime.
I agree with everything you said, but fuck you. Don’t disrespecc my homie Yoda.
Security guard position, more like it. That, or bouncer.
casbott I hear you on this answer about his character being flawed in the movies, but personally I feel you’re looking at this in the wrong way. To me, his incompetences during Palpatine’s reign are a direct result of Palpatine’s unimaginable power. He is the strongest Sith Lord ever (Lucas has said so) and he uses that power to cloud the Jedi’s judgement, even Yoda. Yoda didn’t make all of those Order rules, and the no relationships thing comes from Jedi being able to control their emotions and accept the loss of love, which Anakin never showed the ability to do. Based on your answer I’m sure you’re aware of a lot of this and I’m sure we could go on for years lol, just my thoughts on his failure to see the downfall are due to Sidious’ ability to cloud their foresight/awareness.
0:02 GENERAL KENOBI.
Lol
also worth mentioning Shaak Ti voted to expell Ahsoka a fellow Torguta herself and very closed minded to the point to where she believed that it was not her business to question the Kaminoans about the chips
Wow, the Clone Wars really ruined Shaak Ti. She used to be a pretty impressive character.
She’s not un respectable in TCW and in the arc he’s talking about it’s true she didn’t even bother to investigate for herself or at least help fives and be open minded, but I appreciated her not letting Nala Se put her down. Even if she didn’t realize Nala Se was hiding something, she was intelligent enough to realize that other alternatives were possible and negotiated her way out of mindlessly submitting to the Kaminoans.
“May the force NOT be with you” xD
I don't care what anyone says Shaak Ti and Luminara Undulli are 2 if my favourite jedi
Johnathan Sumner same
To be honest she’s responsible for order 66 because she did not dig deep enough
的茍且生活JJ son To be honest, she’s not because it’s not like she can go back and change how ROTS was filmed. The plot of ROTS forced the Jedi to be stupid and blind
@@2507jasonpoon that's not really true, but okay, sure...
I hate how Luminara had an offscrean death.
Ok yes I agree with everything he said about everyone else but when he mentions shaak ti. I honestly got passed beacsue she is such and amazing character and was not useless
I never knew that the guy who tried to jump Dooku and got blasted so easily was a master. I always thought he was a newbie designed to show the variance in power levels of the Jedi order.
They screwed up by having him be a master!
Obi wans failure to bend the rules is why qui gon doesn’t think he should be a Jedi
Have to defend Coleman Trebor for a moment: a look on Wookiepedia explained that Jango's gun is so freakishly powerful it can actually push a lightsaber's back. That's what happened with Trebor: the bolt fron Jango's gun pushed back his lightsaber and he instinctively looked at it wondering why did it feel it had been shot with a heavy blaster rifle, and in that split second he got shot himself.
Fully agree on the others, especially Luminara's mess with Barriss Offee.
This sounds like someone giving a presentation about “why Anakin should be a Jedi master”
The skills and attributes koror joke/ reference really got me.
School: you should be doing homework
Me at 04:57:
Homework is important because it teaches you self discipline and how to do stuff you don't want to do which can be really important at the earlier levels once you pass the tutorial area
Forgot windu. He withheld vital information that could have saved millions all in the name of need to know basis.
What vital information? You mean when Anakin told him about Palpatine being a sith? He didnt keep that to himself. Did he not confront him afterwards and almost won until Anakin interfered
@@hectorvelazquez5254 from the most recent clone wars episodes when ahsoka made efforts to communicate her knowledge to the jedi council it was windu who told her it was non of her damn business. Windu has a long history of being a dick and withholding vital information until the last minute.
I would wager that if he was more open and willing to communicate a lot of bad shit could have been avoided. Anakin even stated that partially the reason he turned to the dark side was because the council didn't trust him namely windu.
@@rabidspiders01 Either way Ahsoka had a second shot of telling Yoda about Mauls vision but chose not to and kept it to herself. So technically she also took part
@@rabidspiders01 Either way Ahsoka had a second shot of telling Yoda about Mauls vision but chose not to and kept it to herself. So technically she also took part
@@hectorvelazquez5254 ahsoka just like anakin distrusted the jedi. When a person or organization rubs you the wrong way its kinda hard to communicate with them especially if the first response you get is fuck off.... you get what you get.
If anything Coleman was the most peaceful and best jedi ever at being a peace keeper.
“Dammit, if only I had 40 years of source material!!”- Padawan Barris Kennedy
“Dino potato”
For the love of all that is holy please do a Sith version of this list... Darth Maul needs the inept and incompetent shine he so rightly deserves...
“Terrible and incompetent.”
*GLARES AT KRELL*
If Krell stayed loyal to the Republic, he probably could have defeated Grevious
“Far from special” the Jedi Order was the most “special” organization to exist in the Galaxy’s memory.
7:41 YO I DIDN'T THINK HE WOULD DO THIS ONE OH MY GOD!!! This is why I love GENERATION TECH❤❤❤❤❤👏🏻
When Kenobi was also incompetent. He was similar to Luminara in that he allowed the Jedi order to command his life too much that when he noticed Anakin falling to the dark side, Kenobi didn’t voice his concerns or issues, as shown in the last season. Sure, kenobi was a great warrior, negotiator, and general, but he didn’t follow his master enough to be able to prevent Anakin’s fall and Ashoka’s exile.
Coleman Trebor is actually a Parasaurolophus, a herbivorous hadrosaur native to North America and Asia
How would Forerunner ground forces from Halo with their Tier-12 to Tier-18 fair in combat with the ground forces of the Warhammer 40k factions?
Depends: Each 40k faction in its prime (Eldar, Humans, Necrons) would be an equal foe but in their current state Forerunners would wipe them - with losses nontheless.
40k is overrated
@@leiferikson850
How would ground combat go? Like
Space Marines and Guardsmen against the Forerunners soldiers or the vehicles of the Warhammer 40k factions against the Forerunner vehicles.
I think the forerunners are one of the few science-fiction factions that are actually able to put up a fight against the crazy overpowered 40K factions
@Special Bronze
Do you know how strong Forerunner armor is?
Shaak ti is so underrated she has very good sabre skills and knowledge of the force
You are absolutely destroying my childhood, I love these Jedis so much and you’re bringing up so many good points! I hate that you’re right😩
So glad he put luminara on this list. The moment he said that I was like : "Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Ooooh yeah."