5 Most Incompetent Sith Lords
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- We take a look at some of the most incompetent Sith Lords in galactic history.
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Is Dooku incompetent? Absolutely not
Is Dooku an incompetent Sith Lord? Bigtime
Lets face it, the Sith in general suck.
@@Matteus2109
Thank you bro, theyre like entitled toddlers.
All the chads in Star Wars arent even force sensitive, Lando or Karrde for ab example.
@@ChupeTTe imagine force sensitive hondo ohnaka
@@ChupeTTe kenobi is the star wars chad
@@ChupeTTe Tbf Vader and Palpy are both mega-chads, but Dooku and Maul aren't
Darth Jar Jar was just acting the whole time, his true colors are yet to be seen on screen
Jar jar isn't a Sith
@@something7641 His deception has even you bamboozled.
@@something7641 we don’t know but most believe yes
Explain why Jar Jar was an outcast in both Naboo and Otoh Gunga (wherever Jar Jar is from) after the rise of the empire, not rose to prominence?
Jar jar has to be the most incompetent stupid yet comical person and all the Star Wars Canon and the fact that he’s a politician seems to back that up even more
I wish Savage Opress had stuck with the enchanted spear. Lightsabers are SO passe'.
Imagine not knowing how to use the accent properly, how passé
@@CTA12356 it’s hard on computer
@@WeyTheGreat it’s really not haha
@@CTA12356 too much work
@@CTA12356 imagine caring about such things lol
The fact that Dooku could have easily won gives new meaning to his line at the Geonosian battle map "There are too many". I guess he meant too many Separatist forces??
I never thought Dooku was truly evil. He saw that the Republic was rotting from the inside and tried to build an alternative government that would work better
Darth Jar Jar is the greatest master of deception. No one would ever suspect that he was a Sith
Thank you I'll tell you a secret I'm a sith lord
why is jar jar in the thumbnail?????
he isn’t incompetent
He behaves incompetent
His veil of incompetence misleads you until suddenly you realise he has orchestrated all events between the prequels and the sequels
He cleverly acts incompetent to hide his competence.
I took a snapshot of your 69 likes before giving another one
He had us in the first half, not gonna lie
In terms of lightsaber combat, Savage Opress uses the wrong type of saber as he has more brute type body. He should use a single bladed lightsaber. Dooku choose the wrong type of saber hilt for Savage
Lightsaber pike would be ideal because he was already familiar with the weapon type.
@@rhett5058 I agree
Nah. The double Bladed lightsaber is basically a spear. You’d hold it as you would a battle spear or a staff. The weapon is made for brutes. The single saber or one in each hand requires thought and precision with attacks. The double blade? Just pure aggression. Weaker Jedi/Sith are drawn to it. Maul, who has minimalist training looks pro because of it, Exar Kun was so good with it because his was not a double bladed saber, but a heavily modified originary saber. Darth Zannah wasn’t much of a duelist, her strengths lied in deception and the force. The double blade comes off as a dangerous and unpredictable weapon to most opponents, causing them to hesitate when Zannah needs to build up or break away from the fight.
Or did he?
So I guess Gravid and Dooku are only "incompitent" when judjed by sith, while not actually being incompitent people
To be honest he did said "Incompetent Sith". Like probably best Sith Lord ever Darth Traya, did eradicate own Order leading to creation of true Sith'ari (who happen was a exiled Jedi). But that was her plan all the time. From perspective of Sith Darth Gravid was mostly just a fool.
Had some of these Sith Lords, especially Dooku, Gravid, and Kaan existed during Vitiate's Sith Empire, they may have thrived. Middle managers like, arguably, Lana Beniko, were in some ways even more important than over-ambitious ego-centered Sith like Darth Baras. Skere Kaan isn't that dissimilar in personality to Empress Acina (middling powder Sith Lord who was better at politics than fighting and gained a ton of power as a result). The Sith were strongest (as a culture) when they had an overwhelmingly strong central figure like Vitiate in control so that ambition of individual Sith was kept in check. Had Vitiate not played games with his empires, the Sith Empire may have thrived for longer than it did. Just look at how well he did with the Eternal Empire following a melded method not unlike Gravid. Unfortunately, Vitiate seems to have been just using his Sith Empire as a big life battery for whenever he needed to extend his immortality. Given all this, maybe he might even be considered incompetent himself. Had he used the Eternal Fleet to buttress the Sith Empire instead of playing the Sith against the Republic to absorb life force (or some other nonsense), he might have actually been able to wipe out the Jedi and have absolute rule over the Galaxy.
"Gravid" means "pregnant" in my native language so I can't possibly take Darth Gravid seriously
It's a technical term for that in English, too.
I dunno, it's not what I usually think of as the usual Sith image of sinister menace, but pregnancy hormones _can_ certainly make women crazy. Maybe the writer/writer's wife was expecting?
Which makes it exactly as stupid as 99% of Sith names.
@@tba113 He'd certainly be on the wrong side of the Force there.
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@@calin1395 Dap
In Star Wars, there are two things I find utterly terrifying: Abaloth, and the Thought Bomb.
Lord Mommin, Nihulus and Viatiate are also kind of creeppy
@@ddpzzp553 Vitiate who had the power to destroy the entire galaxy, and all life in it, and would have if not stopped again and again.
Yeah abaloth was terrifying when I first read those books when I was younger.
Rakghoul?
Only five? You never played Star Wars, the old republic online, have you? :D
Lol, so true ;D
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Baras the Wide?
I thought not. It's not a story the Inquisitors would tell you. It's a Warrior legend.
Darth Baras was a dark lord of the Sith so overweight and so wide, he could use the food to influence the calories and create fat.
He had such knowledge of the hunger, he could even keep the food he consumed from digesting.
The fat side of the Force is a pathway to many belt sizes some consider to be... Unhealthy.
He became so overweight, the only thing he was afraid of was losing that weight, which eventually, of course, he did.
Unfortunately, his apprentice was one sassy piece of shit, and his apprentice murdered him in the Dark Council chamber.
Ironic, he could save others from heart failure, but not himself.
Lol
Lol. Good one
yeah but most Old Republic Sith are not worth talking about since they usually die as quickly as they appear.
Well, Savage was only a Sith Lord in name. In reality, he was, at best, a powerful if clumsy dark side adept
@Lagarto Verde no, he is just an apprentice. Not even Ventress was called a sith lord. And she was way above Savage.
@@cmdrTremyss Asajj wasn't a Sith Lord because there were already two Sith in that line of Sith, Sidious and Dooku.
When we speak about Mauls Sith, Maul is the Master and Savage the Sith apprentice, making him a Lord of the Sith
@@fuckinantipope5511 If we go from Mauls perspective. But he wasn’t trained as a sith or a sith apprentice, maul was trained as an assassin which means he was only trained in the dark side with combat in mind, no sith alchemy or mind tricks or force clouding, no all his skills were tailored to help the sith achieve wet work without themselves having to do it
Savage definitely counts as a Sith, being the apprentice of Darth Maul makes it official, being less skilled than other Sith of the era doesn't take that away from him.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 I agree that he can be count as sith, but not as sith lord
lol I love how most of the most incompetent sith lords were either former jedis or sith trying to use the ways of the jedi.
maybe it is the light side that corrupts
@@telekinetique More so that a being not explicitly born immoral will eventually be overwhelmed by Sith teachings.
Dooku was never a true Sith Lord. He was a delusional up-jumped Dark Jedi.
Thats why Maul calls him a "Sith pretender"
@@dave_banan He was correct
@@dave_banan Maul is just jealous, Dooku has Darth name, which means he's Sith
@@dave_banan facts
He’s more of a Sith than Maul ever was, Maul was simply an assassin, Dooku orchestrated a Separatist Movement
What about Darth Bane, and his whole neutering of the Sith order... the rule of 2 crippled the Sith's abilities to pose a threat to the galaxy for a very long time.
He does have a point though, sith are by their very nature incredibly back stabing shit stains. For every good sith like Darth Marr there were 10 rats. The sith empire spent more time fighting among themselves than their enemy. So it makes sense in that way.
But it enabled them to grow even stronger without those pesky Jedi breathing down their necks, and it eventually culminated in Order 66.
@@cheekibreeki904 I wouldn't say it made them stronger. Heck, what it really does is weaken them, plus put them at risk of being wiped out. Think about it... how many Sith apprentices kill their master, or at least attempt to? All it takes is one worst case result, with both dead, and it is all over. A single hyperspace accident... wiped out. A bad encounter with some wildlife, a natural disaster, or an opposing force user... wiped out. Try and recruit a Jedi as your apprentice, pick the wrong one, and wiped out. For that matter, it means you want to keep an upper hand over your apprentice, so you either want one that isn't as strong as you, or you want to hold back teaching stuff so that there is a weakness you can exploit. Every time one bit of knowledge isn't passed down, for whatever reason, that's a bit of knowledge lost, unless the apprentice happens to find it on a holocron. The whole system puts everything at risk and weakens the Sith. So weak, that all they can really do is hide. Just look at what happens in the end, when they do make themselves known...
And, for that matter, for all the Rule of Two stuff, well, look at how well that actually plays out. Sidious has Dooku, but Dooku has Ventress. Vader has an off the books apprentice. Just makes sense, right? If you want to overthrow your master, well, making it a two on one fight is just smart. Then there are the Inquisitors... only two, except there's these guys as well.
In the end, Palpatine goes for a Jedi, a strong apprentice. But when he tries to replace that apprentice with a new one, that one being the newest Jedi, his choice doesn't want to turn. As a result, his current apprentice picks that moment to betray him, killing the master, and becoming mortally wounded as a result, dying shortly thereafter. Sith order wiped out. The Rule of Two at work.
Bane was an idiot. Gravid's way of thinking was far better. Stop the betrayals, reduce the hatred, work together, and become far stronger.
I'd love a video on Hutt space and why nothing canon happens over there. We've had enough outer rim, bring on slug politics.
Gravid was a TRUE hero. If not for him, Plagueis and Palpatine would have been UNSTOPPABLE
Silence Jedi sympathiser
How dare you speak such blasphemous words
He was a hero for the rest of the galaxy, but very incompetent from the point of view of the rest of the sith
Plagueis was already unstoppable even with Gravid. His plans were ruined by his apprentices treachery
@@matthewc3135 more like killed by his own arrogance. As Palpatine said, he didn't think to leave room for himself in the vision of power and dominion he held for the future.
Darth Gravid's only mistakes were not realising his Sith Apprentice was a threat, and taking her out in a preemptive ambush.
And not giving the Jedi a call in order to get their help in destroying the Sith.
If he'd wasted his Apprentice he could have finished the Sith order, then and there.
So technically he was a incompetent wannabe light sider.
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Thought you were talking about the sequel trilogy
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I gotta agree with Dooku taking the top spot. He spent his entire tenure as a Sith working to manipulate two superpowers into giving his boss complete control. In doing so, he made himself the obvious target for the Republic’s hatred. Did he honestly think that Palpatine, the guy who lies to everyone he doesn’t kill, would somehow keep his word to Dooku alone and reward him at the point where he has everything to gain from Dooku’s death?
It’s like he thought he was joining a different version of the Jedi rather than a group that has betrayal as a core value.
Half of all the sith of the old republic:
"Am I a joke to you ?"
Yes you are
The jarjar thumbnail implying jarjar was a Sith Lord is good enough for me!
IDK, Darth Gravid doesn't sound too incompetent. He kinda sounded like he was on to something. Unfortunately it didn't turn out too well for him. But his intentions were there which is what counts right?
I think he was aiming for the Grey Jedi. A Force wielder who can use both the light and darkside of the Force
5:50 cant seem to gain an upper hand *loses his fucking arm*
No upper hand without a hand
On Dooku's incompetence, there's a bit that happened in Legends: his penchant for giving commands to his Dark Acolytes based exclusively on their personal fighting skills. Thus the initial Separatist commander-in-chief was Sev'rance Tann, who happened to be a professional soldier but was a poor strategist and neglected to properly organize her droid armies in a coherent force in favor of a wunderwaffe, and after she got killed in duel a month in the war Dooku choose the next commander by setting two of his best fighters on the third... And there he lucked out, as he choose to set Durge and Asajj Ventress on the skilled tactician and strategic genius that is Grievous and gave the latter choice of terrain (Durge was lucky that he could survive being skewered by two lightsabers and beheaded, and Ventress, who put up a better fight, was choked into unconsciousness).
But had Durge and Ventress managed to kill Grievous as they had orders to do, it would have been one of them to take over the Droid Armies... And they were no soldiers, nor interested into learning how to lead armies (the Jedi, if nothing else, did just that). And it would have been a mess.
its weird that Grevious in the comics was strong enough to take on both Ventress and Durge at the same time, when you look at Ep 3 Obi Wan was beating Grevious with relative ease before he starts running away.
both Ventress and Durge have proven themselves a match for Obiwan several times and to be frank I dont see why Ventress didnt just hide and snap Grevious's neck with the force, Legends Ventress wasn't exactly averse to stealth kills as Anakin and that Clone battalion he had can attest to.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 When Grievous fought Ventress and Durge he had made sure to enrage and unnerve them, so they fought him head on where Grievous had the advantage of brute strength, plus knowing most if not all of their tricks. As a result Durge got beaten up until he fainted and Ventress didn't even THINK of using her Force powers, the latter being precisely why Grievous is such an effective Jedi killer.
Obi-Wan, on the other hand, is literally the worst possible opponent for Grievous: he's too cool-headed to be unnerved or scared, and mastered Form III, whose absolute defense completely counters Grievous' overwhelming strength and speed approach. Thus in their final duel Grievious ended up throwing his hands on Obi-Wan's blades twice and ran.
Interestingly, it seems Grievious had seen it coming, given how many times he tried to just kill Obi-Wan while he was still learning... Proving once again how dangerous Grievous actually is, since he knew better than letting a potential threat becoming an actual one.
Man we would love to see a rule of two series just to shed some light on more of these sith lords story lines
Putting jar jar in the thumbnail when he singlehandedly advanced palpatine's plans is heresy
Perfect timing with all the discussion of Darth Bane as coincidentally my man and I are currently audible-listening through his series, which is dang good. Also coincidentally we just finished Red Harvest, and I must agree that Darth Scabrous, though among the most vile of the sith, was a major doofus. Creating an extremely contagious death-virus which quickly kills and turns its victims into undead killing machines on the same grounds as a giant sith academy? WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG??
I don’t really think dooku was incompetent I just think he failed successfully
Well done!
The novel Revenge of the Sith went into it a lot deeper. Essentially Dooku was a placeholder to Palpatine, and nothing more. He needed an "apprentice" after Maul's death until Anakin was ready to take his place and Dooku was a useful fool. The Novelization was great by the way. Went into a lot of things much more in depth, like WHY Yoda broke off his duel with Palpatine and how to create an effective Jedi trap.
2:39 Why did yt caption that ”Thot Bomb”? 😂
Thot-bomb, what an interesting idea.
Well done Master Alan‼️💯👍🏻👍🏻
I know a more incompetent Sith. Darth Kennedy. She has the force power to ruin Star Wars with one director. Now THATS incompetence
That’s not really incompetent, just evil
@@doglover334 hence..a Sith!
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines yes
She had the powers of feminism the most powerful force ability
Kathleen Kennedy is an insult to Sith lords.
Dooku WAS a true Sith. His character is supposed to be someone who is very independent and finds his own ways of doing things, even with the force stuff.
So, his version of a Sith will always look different because his style can't be copied or duplicated. He isn't only elegant but he is one of those bad guys who have some honor when fighting or expressing themselves. Therefore, he is so unique that he doesn't look like the typical sith and the yellow eyes don't mean anything because they activate when you are letting extreme ANGER control you. They are not Sith eyes but dark side eyes and they are more of a property than a power boost. Therefore Dooku was a special channeller of the force which is admirable because he used the DS smarter than most regular sith or ds users.
I think we just needed a clone wars live action movie so we could see more of his Sith identity. Dooku is actually someone who could've reformed a Sith order or bring back the Sith empire because unlike Palpatine, Dooku wanted to keep improving the Sith. Palpatine wanted everything for himself, so, ironically, Dooku would've reformed the Sith if he was the emperor.
In order to understand characters like Dooku you have to see much deeper in case you are only seeing what the movies showed. His backstory is what makes him a Sith lord
Dooku seems like the guy who have alreast 2 or 3 xanathos gambits if he became the emperor
I wanted Darth Jar Jar in this video. You talk about it so casually in so many other videos I thought for sure you'd put him on the list haha
You left two off the list. Darth Jar Jar and Darth Kennedy
Darth Pregnant? Really?
Why not? I mean, there's Darth Daddy and Darth Jewish Mountain...
His name alone disqualifies him.
Btw, even through Savage wasn't a sith at all, and I have no idea why is he on the list, why was he incompetent? Noone really trained him, and still, he managed to defeat 2 jedi MASTERS, and a padawan. 2 of em without a lightsaber...but he's instantly incompetent because he didn't stand a chance against one of, if not the most powerful force user being at the time. Also loses against Kenobi who's using Soresu and again, he was one of the best at it. What did you expect? Just compare the training he had and Kenobi had, or the skill of Sidious, sounds fair...
Savage is a Sith, being apprentice to Maul makes him an official Sith Lord.
I agree that Alans logic is flawed regarding Savage however I would also argue that he is still incompetent, Savage is just brainless muscle content to just recieve orders never really contributing in any meaningful way to any given plan beyond his huge muscles and force powers.
the Savage style of Sith died with the Sith Empires for a very good reason.
As a sith master, there is no moment of greater pride than the moment your apprentice thrusts his lightsaber through your back, killing you...now your training is complete.
Darth Maul: 👁👄👁
Darth Riven is hilarious. First time I've ever heard of a Sith being corrupted by the light Side. XD
Your channel is very underrated,
I love you Allen
Darth Gravid is such a hilarious name. Man's literally called Darth "Horny Reptile".
To be fair, Opress lasted longer against Palpatine than Agen Kolar, Saesee Tinn and Kit Fisto combined.
Your ridicule of the Sith has not gone unnoticed ... (just relaying a friend's message)
I hope the Antagonist of the next trilogy is someone we can root for.
Dooku must have actually been a very strong Sith, as he was able to master the dark side without his body succumbing to the physical effects.
yeah Dooku was one of the strongest Sith of all time, he's made a monkey of Anakin many times and even had Yoda exerting himself trying to take down a tired Dooku.
Gary Beuci is Darth Gravid 😂
Love how you surreptitously hint at Darth Jar jar being canon through thumbnails
Savage wasn't given enough time to train and become powerful
Everyone in Star Wars is Incompetent some more then others
Just like the real world!
I had no idea Dooku was older then Sidious, never even occurred to me
Darth Jar Jar's greatest trick was making the lesser beings in the galaxy believe that he was incompetent .
Only character I take issue with is savage as he wasn't really a sith, not to mention a sith lord. He was an assassin at most.
yes he was a Sith, being apprentice to Darth Maul makes him a Sith Lord.
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Arguably, Darth Ruin could fit on this list. Yes, he started the New Sith Wars that Bane fought in, which lasted about a thousand years, but he was blind to underlings other throwing him.
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Coleman Trebor is a hero I don’t care about how competent he is.
What if Anakin was sent to Utapau instead of Obi wan?
True lol and literally second 🥈. Wish for video about how Earth's different Private Military Companies are different yet also similar to the ones from Star Wars?
First of all, this would make a great video. I guess you could kind of classify the Mandalorian Skull Squadron during the third battle of Mygeeto to be a PMC since they were not part of the Grand Army of the Republic, but were more like volunteers.
@@indianajones4321 yeah maybe...
Those stumbling, bumbling, fumbling Sith!
What I gather from this vid is Darth Jar Jar is very compitent what with hiding his true motives behind silly acting. He makes a good thumbnail but has successfully escaped any suspicion and can still rise up and take control of the galaxy.
Dooku was a moron at the end, thinking the Clone Wars would end without his death
actually skere kaan was pretty powerful, like powerful telekinesis, powerful force lightning.
0:26 On the other hand, there are some Sith Lords that are actually pretty chill. Like Dooku, or Darth Vectivus.
Darth Gravid.. In swedish that seriously means Darth Pregnant :P
Watch what you say about Count Dooku! Don't make me come over there!
Ah yes, a ceremony called the thought bomb sounds like something that totally wouldn't have any sort of negative effects whatsoever
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Dooku was a very powerful force user who joined the Sith because he was disgusted with the Jedi Order. Outside of force lightning and some evil deeds, he was more of a “Jedi-gone-bad” as opposed to an actual Sith. If Palpatine would have trained Ventress as a “true” Sith, he might have gotten something A LOT closer to what he was looking for. She truly WANTED. To be a Sith. Dooku wanted to be a Jedi, but without the baggage of the Jedi Order. He joined the Sith and the Separatist movement as a means to an end. From a certain point of view.........
I disagree with you on Kaan, even if he isn't the most powerful, and went out pretty nastily, he managed to mind control the entire Sith order, which I find impressive.
Darth Jarjar is the most clever sith Lord that ever existed. Hidden in plain sight, acts incompetent to hide is competence.
The old Sith mind bomb.
One thing that always perplexed me is the fact that though Darth Sidious was a strong adherent to the "rule of two" when it came to Sith Lords, very few lower level Sith are ever brought into the storyline. In previous generations, there were always a significant amount of Sith "soldiers" that supported the Dark Side cause but from Darth Plagueis and moving forward, these cohorts of dark side users are never given spotlight. At least in the films. Sure it makes the narrative easier to control but considering the amount of Jedi mentioned, you'd think more Sith would be given the limelight.
Darth Jar Jar is the scariest thing you are yet to fear and realize.
“Rather spend time with the Jedi instead of the Sith.” - Alan
Well, I’m not sure about that, I mean I bet Dooku throws a far more rocking party than Yoda. Using Babylon 5 as a comparison, I Dooku would more likely be like Lando who had tons of food, drink and scantily clad dancing girls, while Yoda would me like Delenn who would plan calm ceremonies and quiet meditation. So if the two, I know which one I would be most drawn too! 🤣
Ultimately, Disney canon palpatine was pretty incompetent.
Perfectly mirroring Disney itself in their ability to make Star Wars movies that are actually good instead of just marketable.
completely disagree with Dooku, I think the surprise and shock is just a testament to palpatine's skill in manipulation.
5: He wasn't incompetent, he was simply outsmarted and defeated
4: He wasn't incompetent, He wanted to reform the Sith Order because he believed that in this form the Sith would destroy Themselves
3: You just called him incompetent because he was unable to defeat opponents who are stronger and more experienced than him.
and savage wasn't even a sith for more then a year or so when he died. yet he still went up agents other sith like Dooku, ventress, and finally palpatine. yet still was able to hold ground and not die instantly like most others would have.
star wars needs a jar jar movie lmao
3:00 - so he looks like Jake Busey?
Sort of. More accurate to say that Jake Busey looks like him.
Darth Gary Busey?! Cool!
Skere Kaan wasn't he the Tiger from Jungle book? oh wait that was Shere Khan. :P
Lol Darth Gravid is really Darth Bussey
Isnt that the name of the Tiger from The Jungle Book?
Their should be a 10 reasons why JarJar Binks is a sith lord
Dooku was more likely a Dark Jedi than a Sith Lord.
You really need to revisit the notion that, Jajar Binks, secretly a Sith, and his acting like an incompetent boob, was a mere trick. It's been spoofed so much but... what if, he was something else? What if, he was actually a conduit of another Force user, that liked being unseen, even more than the Emperor, and took even more advantage of the Emperor's blind spots. (He didn't actually see, Luke, coming, until after Vader told him about it).
In this vast Empire's many huge blind spots, he easily lives like a king, and has his own Empire, hidden all across the other one.
I love Count Dooku
I'd of honestly put Anakin at a spot in this list or maybe even snoke now I won't argue that Anakin wasn't powerful or foolish but in both legends and canon materials he makes a lot of dumb decisions his initial defeat on Mustafar, attempting to turn on Palpatine after said defeat, allowing Tarkin to hunt him, and for legends trying clone the apprentice of his that very clearly wanted him dead by the end of the force unleashed, and for snoke well he got duped by someone who's mind and emotions he was reading
Snoke, who?
Just two Fan Made Sith Lords set before the rule of two: a Sith [Marauder] named Darth [Antagonist] & a Sith [Juggernaut] named Darth [Protagonist]; they seriously contradicted each other in almost every way with Antagonist being too new school & rushing into things, which has won him very costly victories while Protagonist was too old school & preferred exhausting his enemies before finishing ‘em which won him not so costly victories, but still extremely slow to the point that when Antagonist was defeated, but technically didn’t die; forced to retreat by the other leaderships, Protagonist perfectly executed a defensive measure that immediately halted the counter attack & such…
You forgot to make an honorable mention with Jar Jar Binks
Darth Scabrous? Mad Max/Star Wars crossover?