I refuse to believe Indra was Hindu How could amber fort gold be looted out of a Mandir under tax precursor? She gave back 5000 sqkm of land India army won fair square Why would she give 93k pows back who hurt hindus? Nehru accepted loc line, let hari Singh down, why he put special status? Every action points to anti hinduism
Tricky brother. Sikh religion is naturally part of India & Pakistan. Sikhs in history not only spread outside Punjab, other tribes left Sikhism went back to Hinduism once reign of Ranjit Singh ended 1900s hindu farmers became Sikhs adding 1 5th to sikh religion With bigger num tilt 65% bloodlines became dense, concentrated, fuelled by titles, heirarchies who has what where. But to outside world it looked like Sikh ideals
Dear ravi sir, i would like to tell you if you want to go through full military experience of operation blue star please bring "Lt gen kuldeep brar" , the operational commander of bluestar, he will tell you every detail of the operation and will also give you some bone chilling experience of 1971 war , please sir bring him on your podcast thanks you.❤
Naaah Brother… it will be a totally biased perspective, I’ve read his book Operation Blue Star nd it’s totally one sided perspective book… He portrayed himself a Hero , he might be for his platoon but in reality he just fabricated his own story with no truth
@KanwarBaltejSinghGill-gr5ch hid didn't potrayed himself a hero, infact what he was going on an annual leave but that time the army commander lt gen. Krishaswamy sunderji called him and made him the operational commander, if he didn't started the operation in next 1-2 days the punjab would be not in India, it was that any time punjab was declared to a khalistan
Dont try to justify genocide of sikhs. Sant bhindranwale never demanded for khalistan. Blue star was all about genocide did by indian army. And KS brar is the biggest lier.
I have seen Gen KS Brar interview with other people. He knows internally that what he did was a total mess and failure but he takes the help of lies and fabrication to somehow justify his performance.
Even him didn't tell the full story. KP Brar story is for government. No one wants talk about the real thing happened on the ground which lead this incident. Punjab Police was one of the main culprits. Why they allowed Nirankari to kill 5 peyars X 2 total 10 in his stsung. Why Nirankari torn apart Guru Granth Sahib & told his preachers that he was the real guru. And Indian govt & police put blind eye on every thing. Indira Gandhi was a arrogant lady., she can travel to Kashmir to meet Faruq Abulla but not to Amritsar for Sikh sentiments. Sikhs fought for India Independence more than any other race, but were treated as crap after Independence. Indian Govt. decided to take revenge on Guru Arjan Dev ji's saheddi day. Remember Akal That was made to counter currupt govt. of the time. In past, it was Mugals than British & then Indian corrupt politicians. Sikhs always work for humanity & fight for injustice. BTW Hindu people who got killed in Buses in punjab was killed by govt. personal in the attire of Sikhs. When I was in Kashmir from 1990 to 1997 CATS do the same kind of work. When I was citizen of India I cant tell. Now I am Merican & i don't fear govt. Bhindrawala never wanted to engage any Army personal, because he loved the army, but if army strikes backs as the puppet of Indra Gandhi then death before dishonor. His fight was against the corrupt leaders, police, and bureaucrats. See his BBC video tapes. Indian govt put an information blackout in Punjab. So, no information leaks to international media. Its damm political killing of sikhs.
One day Pakistan will also pay for the things he did in Punjab for his political gain. It was a movement against Nirankari baba, and Indira govt took side of him.
Make one thing very clear, for Sikhs Guru Granth Sahib is supreme. If some attacks on it. Real Sikhs don't care about his life. Sikhs killed Army General, India Gandhi but why not her grandkids, reason is we Sikhs are not criminals. Sikhs punished those who gave the orders, not the foot soldiers. When Ravna took Sita Mata to Lanka, lord Ram didn't kill the people of Sri Lanka.
I live in abroad, never seen someone gave money to talk about Khalistan. People say Khalistan because they want the Indian govt to react. If the Indian govt. is wise they start the talk with Sikhs about genocide. No one wants killing, and no one wants Khalistan, they want the Indian govt to say sorry for destroying our sacred place. But the Indian govt. will not do that because govt. want this issue for votes bank. Everything is about votes.
Bhindrawala just Indira gandhi servant...who try to destroy akali dal party and gyani jail singh help him... akali dal very powerful in Punjab and pakistan also want destroy Punjab because 1965 Sikh and Tamil people beat pakistan army...so Punjab broke win situation by pakistan isi... Christian missionaries also want setup in Punjab slowly..... haryana Punjab rich in food if you capture on him... money to mp seat.. because all leaders during 1976 time Narendra Modi to bajpayee hide in Punjab... haryana jaat gujjar baniya kill by khalistani bhindrawala and rape girls...stop bus... and newspapers owner kill...hindu vs Sikh jatt start...
Ex army head fake corruption case ... otherwise bhindrawala not powerful in gorila war...just kill in 2 hour...so some army officer also responsible for... Indira Gandhi behind fake corruption case..why bhindrawala with gun bomb in temple...where national flag not allowed..
Bhai ek fark btata hu koi answer dena plz? Canada me ek sikh mra ha and unhone tufan khada kr rakha hai and hmare jha sikh genocide hua and kisi ko sja nahi mili.
Bhai Yhi Farak hai India or Canada isliye wo khalistan chahte hai .. actual mai jo log wha gye hai wo sabse jyada pyaar krte Sikhism se bhut saare victims hai 1984 and 90s panjab ke jinke fathers ko mothers fake encounters mai mara gya unke beta ya beti bach gyi wo Canada mai gye or wo log tab se hate krte hai india ko kyuki unhone 2 baar genocide dekh liya phele 47 mai or dosri baar 90s mai !! Ab log country chate ..or jo yha ke sikhs hai chate to wo bhi hai lekin bolne se darte agar aaj voting ho jaye to 90% log khalistan banayege and I don't see anything wrong in it !!
Brother. Canada sits on top of corpse of Indigenous Americans Unaccounted for. special attention Sikhs recieve from trudeus french administration influenced by china gov policy ( now 180 other way working with India) Indigenous canadians forgotten. Alberta BC is their land first. If they had choice they would not want you, french or English on their land Canada is not even name of place your on. It's called " Kanata" real Red Indian name given from Huron Iroquois meaning village
Brother your asli Jameen 65% Pakistan took. They killed 470,000 Sikhs in few days to get your jameen off you. That trauma came India through generations passed into DNA stream Played out manifested thru 1980s You lost your kingdom trusting that lot. While they baby boomed with Arabs Persians during 19th century to stake claim in by 1941
This guy is lying. First 13 members of Akanth Kirtan were killed by Nirang kari in Amritsar. Killing in Janlander was of Lala Gagat Naryan who was not innocent.
@@kulwindersingh2221 so you believe people who say negative things about sikh gurus or sikhism or any religious sect which diverges from main stream sikhism deserve to be killed?
1947, 65 70% Punjab division already donated to Pakistan Muslim jatt rajpoot 50% entire Sikh populace move India 19 years before 1966, 7 million extra refujees influx to India with 200 year resource pillage Sikh demands for land, @ same time jaat kingdom asking why British put part of their territory with Punjab? Divided 3 times Himachal same time rise up, silently witnessed 1900s eminent west Punjabi writers write derogatory things about himachali culture & women. They were desperate to not only not be associated to Punjab anymore but were in cases Ex Sikh from around 1870+. Sikhs had been bolstered by 1 5th by 3 Nanaksar Saints just 1920s 1927 Around same time sgpc formed rejected Indian Dalits from entering Sikh community Which then pointed to a 65% jatt centric community focus
Uttarakhand was once described as a mini Punjab long ago. However Sikhs there came from landless castes. No interaction with Sikh Punjabis, they slowly filtered out, moved to other states, or became more influenced by Hinduism. So only trace of Sikhism left became. Grandfather great grandfather then nothing West UP there are still Nanakpanthis & sikhs both historical movements and locally. Delhi Sikh Ramgharias different outlook. See fellow Sikhs as brothers but dislike farm culture. their icon Jassa Ramgharia had titles palaces land confiscated by Ranjit Singh. They hold historical grudges themself. But not enough to wish bad or vote against Punjabi language, but will naturally ridicule parts of Punjabi culture.
25.30 Conclusion: Bhindrawala never demanded khalistan..... Bhindrawala ne khalistan nahi manga...... Indra gandhi ne siraf ek election jeetne ke liye blue star kar diya....
Bro it's a blunder. Bhindrawale brother was a senior Indian Army captain Harcharn Rode. How can he fight his older brother? Bhindrawale was from Malwa ( pro India), he skipped over Majhaa met men who held unfavourable views that could have been resolved joblessness, lack of land holdings, minor things. He then met Pakistan born Proff Sardar kapur Singh Who told Sant Bhindrawale wrong stuff. Anti Hindu. Kapur Singh described Hindus as a boa constrictor.look at 5000 Jews from 1000ad their still jew. 70,000 Parsis from 1200 years ago still monotheist Then what Hindu ever said anything to sardar kapur Singh? He came from Pakistan. He himself would be subject to anti Hindu parchar in Pak pre partition However much of a scholar he was If Bhindrawale never met him He would have returned across the Satlej to join his malwei brethren chilled out among military type people his brother Harcharn was an example of that.
& Giani Zail Singh Ramgharia Sikh Preacher walked in Golden Temple after approving it. He's from your biradri isn't he? Do you see where this points? There are Hindus who lost their own biological Sikh cousin brothers in Delhi from khatri nai kambo chimba communities There are other biradris entirely Sikh who could not understand an entirely Hindu brahmin stance in amritsar That had previous tension resulting from both anti Sikh & anti Hindu preaching in that time Arya samaj v DDT Lack of media, lot of confusion, anger
I am a sikh and nothing else. I have no brotherhood other than Khalsa brotherhood. This is poison for me to even think that. I am sacrificed to my Guru,s teachings. I am dog of Guru ghar and have lived and will live according to my Guru,s teachings with practice. My children married with Amritdhari partners and to the day we don't know their partners bradary , so now you think what you said ! Where are you sir because I think you have long way to learn about sikhi. Please just be a good and Gursikh . We are all one family don't create divisions . Don't think you are any different than others.
People who think he belongs to this bradary and I belong to that and that one that, they are not even sikhs because this is what our Gurus got us out from( dirt). It is fundamental teachings if sikh faith. If you still think the same as before our Gurus time then I am afraid you have not moved an inch. You are no where near sikhi teachings.
@@narindersinghmarway9332 Akj bk ( taksalis jatt ( khalistani) Gnnsj Tarcan ( pro Indian). Ravidasis - pro Indian. Nanaksaria more Pro Indian ex Kenyan tarcans..due to business interests. Nihungs (upset ex tacsalis turned pro Indian 1 min, then twist turn into khadku khalistani next) Lao brotherhood
Indira Gandhi had her own faults,no sensible person supports her,but it doesn't make JS Bhindrawale totally unaccountable. Aur agar itni hi khuddari thi to uss chor congress ko wapas kaii baar Punjab mein waha ki public kyun laayi?
@@navneetsingh9937 are bhai suni sunai bate mat kro ,pehle to ye study kro sant jarnail singh ji par koi FIR hui hai aur koi case bhi nahi sabit hua kisi hindu ko marne ka jin hinduo ko mara tha vo gorvment ne marvae the singho ke libas me apne bnde set karke taki sant ji ka nam laga sake lekin adalt me bhi proof nahi kar saki gorvment ,rahi bat sgpc ne unhe gurdwara sahib me therne diya ,iska matlab ap koi crime kro aur kisi bhi dharmik sthan me jakar rehne lag jao ,apko police batchit karke bahr lane ke ,apko bahr se hi golian marde aur bich me ane wale innocent logo ko bhi marde ye konsa moorkhta bhra canoon hai ,
Hello sir! I hope you are doing well Could you please create another with episode with Mr Ramesh sir I would be thankful to you for my entire life if you do so! Love your work! Words cannot be expressed how thankful I am!
Sab kuch karti government he hai. Fir dusre religion and dusre desho ko blame karte hai.. Aaj kal log samjhte hai government kaise conspiracy rachti hai
Brother it was a despot ruler. Congress is a leftist pro islamist leaning party. Fact that it went against Sikhs last 80 years offering abdullas Kashmir status, special rights waqf acquisitions, India was Congo ingrained It's taken upto this point to understand way Sikhs got treated. I'm Hindu....my heroes are shiv Maratha Guru Gobind Singh Gokul haga Rana Sangha Rana Pratap.... If my country India ever fell under Islamist sword it's Sikh principles I have to adopt to save my Hindu country & people To me you are a Bhai, if we abroad we may be different caste. But automstically from me there respect however that's interpreted Even same khalistanis abroad I just wish they look at their own uncles grand uncles who fought for India army to free goa. That's their hissa too It's a shame how this ended up. But at heart I still feel best method Sikhs Hindus Indians or Punjabi unionists or people who wish to separate mutually benefit all If same Sikh majha jatt come together sit down create agreement with India USA gov & armies to see if possible solution may be explored that permits majha Sikhs to become rulers of West Punjab Pakistan home to 356 gurdwaras 2 Takhats 340,000+ square kilometres of hari green lush khetti Jameen. @ least try krlo It helps all 3 parties mutually
Today date Ramesh inder Singh special bring from up or bihar to Amritsar overnight made commissioner and he sign to Army operation to killed his own people. Helping badal dal get promoted from government
Darbara singh's Picture which you are showing is Wrong. The Man in Picture is Darbara Singh Guru is an Indian politician belongs to the Shiromani Akali Dal party and a retired IAS officer, Principal Secretary to former Chief Minister of Punjab, Parkash Singh Badal from 2007 to 2011.
Yes, 6th guru himself ordered sikhs to bring weapons to akaal takht sahib. Don’t see sikhs through your Hindu pov. All the takhts have weapons placed higher than Guru Granth Sahib. Sikhs love peace, through weapons.
Dear Brother. Historically Sikhism was a Religious - Political set up opposed Moghul empire. Akhal Takht Represented Temporal Power. darbar Sahib Spiritual. Although past Sikhs had bore arms there to defend against moghuls Afghans things began to change 1930 Dr Ambedkar a Dalit leader of 60 million. Wished his tribe 2 b Sikh. He approached S Sarhali Head at Akhal Takht. Who declined & insulted his tribe as " chure" 50 years before that 1870 a chunk of Sikhs in Himachal went back to Hinduism A large influx of hindu farmers into Sikhism around 1920s coupled with 50% new arrivals of Sikh refujees mostly farmers from Pakistan Punjab 1947 Affected khatri kamboj jhir ghumar nai tilt that was 92% Sikh stat 8% 1920s to 30% Sikh 70% Hindu with large chunks migrating to Delhi up Mumbai The gap between the landowners of Punjab and landless Dalits grew Fabric between society and Sikh religion loosened Most Sikhs do not follow SRM codes set by Akhal Takht on preserving hair, alcohol restriction, caste Jathedars come go Practically Sikhs no longer faced threat. The ghandi dynasty in my view should kept clear of politics. Indra married by nikka, attended Opec Arab conferences, she gave back 5000sqkm of Indian army land won from Pak conflict, handed back 93 k pows, her father Nehru accepted loc let down hari Singh, put up special status. Congress early days from 1920s played double dealing agents in Kashmir among Hindus letting them down Ghandis were not going to treat Sikhs right Nor fit to rule country later Sikhs will argue Darbar Sahib has right to bear arms..ok by all means ceremonially. Not for drawing out. But Indra misused India's forces. Which then Sikhs saying their right all along. It's a vicious circle thats best left Sikhs are hurt, no amount of words that can repair their feelings. All we can do is regret that both sides came to this. Meant to be brotherly but end up like that.
Bhai heart goes out to your uncle who unknowingly ended up in brother v brother conflict. Likewise Hindus and Sikhs lost people they knew.even Sikhs had relatives on both sides of conflict There are tribes where one is Hindu other is Sikh. They got caught on both sides of that. Farm communities suffered massively..Dalit samaj Sikh remnants suffered heavily in Delhi.. So much pain regret.. and their all brothers rewind 200 300 500 years one would say " khidda Bhai" help each other But look at wat politics did
@@kanwar.gi11why don’t your bring nuclear weapons then? this is absurd. Trying to fortify a temple somewhere else and see what happens. Why don’t you try this in canada?
Congress was responsible for sikh genocide. But, we have to accept this fact as well, that so called "warriors" deliberately took shelter where Guru Granth Sahib was kept. So, we have to accept this fact also that bhindrawala was a coward. Bcz he knew if he will take shelter inside the sacred sactum sanctorum..force wont attack him and he will proud as a Warrior. But, in reality he was a coward. Because, if he has been a warrior he would have never entered it, for the purpose of taking shelter.
The nation should appreciate Dr. Ambedkar’s struggle within this background of Indian society and then assess his contribution to the making of Indian independence and democracy as a more meaningful proposition. Dr. Ambedkar explained his political philosophy in his address at the Round Table Conference in London in 1930, from which I quote at length: “The Depressed Classes had welcomed the British as their deliverers from age long tyranny and oppression by the Orthodox Hindus. Has the British Government done anything to remove it? Before the British, we could not enter the temple. Can we enter now? Before the British, we were denied entry into the Police Force. Does the British Government admit us in the Force? Before the British, we were not allowed to serve in the Military. Is that career now open to us? There is certainly no fundamental change in our position. We must have a Government in which men in power will not be afraid to amend the social and economic code of life which the dictates of justice and expediency so urgently call for. This role the British Government will never be able to play. It is only a Government which is of the people, for the people and by the people that will make this possible.
Even though real Justice was never done . Both side innocent people died. How long one has to drag this issue ? Accords were signed. When the party ruling that time , the PM of that party has apologized. What is end solutions ?
Are you serious??? How long it has to be dragged ? Have you ever seen your father killed in front of you ? Have you ever seen your father forced to lay upon your sister while making both of them naked ? Have you ever seen the brutality of the armed forces that they are killing the children of 3-4 years even some of them were infants ? If you are hindu, do you have courage to see tanks entering into ram mandir ?? If you are muslim, can you see tanks entering into makka madina ?? How you guys even can say that just forget what happened at that time. Sorry brother we can’t. And you are saying the ruling party at that time (congress) , their PM has already been apologized. What a joke brother. Are you guys really that dumb ? Or just acting to be dumb ? They choose a sikh PM to apologize on behalf of congress party for the genocide of sikhs ? So logically, sikh is saying sorry for the genocide of sikh community . These all are political games that you guys are not aware of. Does Sonia gandhi ever apologized for that thing ? Does your so called modi government ever declare the 1984 thing as a SIKH GENOCIDE ? How should we believe in these governments and this constitution? It’s been 40 years and still justice is not being given to Sikhs. Remember one thing brother: JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED. You guys are giving us the points to think that sikhs need their land and their sovereignty, because majority is not treating minorities in an equal manner. Every rule is different for you guys and for us. If a family member of your family thinks in a way that he is not being treated well, what should be your first step ?? Give him some extra love, make him feel loved, just take extra care of him. Right ?? What you guys are doing with sikhs ??? Suppressing them by your political power, population power. By every means you guys just want to suppress the sikhs so that you should show the sikh community that now is your time, your rule and your government. This thing forces us to remind that there was a time when we were the rulers of the greatest kingdom of the world: THE SIKH EMPIRE. And we should get our sovereignty back which we are forgetting day by day.
There is a solution. West Punjab Pakistan technically legally 65 to 70% landmass belonged to Ranjit Singh. In his absence that land should be granted to 1. Sikhs 2. Buddal Dal Tarna Dal 3. Captain Amarinder Singh's dynasty
DO U REALLY THINK THAT BOTH SIDES ALMOST EQUALLY PEOPLE DIED ?? FIRST CHECK HOW MANY DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS WERE RA*ED, HOW MANY DASTARS (PAGRI) OF SARDAR PEOPLE WERE ON THE STREETS, WHAT THEY DID WITH THE GURUDWARAS, WHAT THEY DID WITH "GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI" ?? U WILL NEVER KNOW THE FEELINGS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND RELIGION PEOPLE WHOSE EVERY ANCESTOR, GURUS, SIKH SOLDIERS GAVE SUPREME SACRIFICES JUST TO SAVE HINDUS AND 🇮🇳. SO PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH U PEOPLE THINK THAT IT IS A VERY SMALL ISSUE, SIKH'S WHOLE HISTORY IS FULL OF SACRIFICES EVEN MORE THAN ANY OTHER. EVEN AFTER THIS, IN DEFENCE SIKHS ARE THE MOST SELECTED ONES FROM PUNJAB OR ANY OTHER STATE. LATER U ALL ARE THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED THE TREND OF "LASSI" "OYE PAPA JI". BETA HAMEIN TO KOI DIKKAT NHI HAI LEKIN TUMNE HAR BAAR HI PROVE KIYA HAI KI TUM SANATANI NHI HO, SANATAN RELIGION MEIN AISA BILKUL NHI SIKHATE HONGE. MAAF KARO AGAR JYADA BOLDIA HO(BUT SACH HI BOLA HAI) 🙏.
DO U REALLY THINK THAT BOTH SIDES ALMOST EQUALLY PEOPLE DIED ?? FIRST CHECK HOW MANY DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS WERE RA*ED, HOW MANY DASTARS (PAGRI) OF SARDAR PEOPLE WERE ON THE STREETS, WHAT THEY DID WITH THE GURUDWARAS, WHAT THEY DID WITH "GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI" ?? U WILL NEVER KNOW THE FEELINGS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND RELIGION PEOPLE WHOSE EVERY ANCESTOR, GURUS, SIKH SOLDIERS GAVE SUPREME SACRIFICES JUST TO SAVE HINDUS AND 🇮🇳. SO PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH U PEOPLE THINK THAT IT IS A VERY SMALL ISSUE, SIKH'S WHOLE HISTORY IS FULL OF SACRIFICES EVEN MORE THAN ANY OTHER. EVEN AFTER THIS, IN DEFENCE SIKHS ARE THE MOST SELECTED ONES FROM PUNJAB OR ANY OTHER STATE. LATER U ALL ARE THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED THE TREND OF "LASSI" "OYE PAPA JI". BETA HAMEIN TO KOI DIKKAT NHI HAI LEKIN TUMNE HAR BAAR HI PROVE KIYA HAI KI TUM SANATANI NHI HO, SANATAN RELIGION MEIN AISA BILKUL NHI SIKHATE HONGE. MAAF KARO AGAR JYADA BOLDIA HO(BUT SACH HI BOLA HAI) 🙏.
Just stop voting for congress. We as a country and people have already lost a lot. Can’t afford any further losses. It hurts to see that some Sikh brothers and sisters are still in favor of congress which only knows how to divide and rule. Not a political person but still a person with a sane mind
Ravi bhai. There is another angle ti this before khalistan created. Maharaja Ranjit Singhs corporate face was hindu muslim sikh..but In order to achieve militaristic expansion he relied on his hardcore khalsa army remnants of 12 misls reshaped from Tarna Dal Buddah Dal Nihungs India. He also recieved help from kashmiri pundits who looked at future to decide good time & day. His army sealed off western passes of todays Pakistan Punjab & Persia through a set of bunker posts. When Britain took control 1847+..They open border posts to let migrant persians in to baby boom with local shia women. By 1941 muslim league west british india demanded pakistan.in lahore session. Britain hastily agreed pressurised by potential German ww2 looming in a deal muslim league would send soldiers to europe. 1946 jinnah calls daybof action targetting sikhs & hindus. 1947 pakistan created with nearly 70% of ranjit singhs landmass, muslim league activists rioters target sikhs forcing 50% of entire sikh populace with hindus to relocate to india. Leaving behind 356 gurdwaras Both hindus & sikhs owned 42% lahore outright. All gone. Technically legally landmass of ranjit singh ( pakistan punjab) should either have been transfered to Buddah Dal Tarna Dal India who sacrificed from 1700s for it, or given to Captain amarinder singhs dynasty as thats where ranjit singhs 50% bloodline came out of. The baby boomer persians who entered British India had destsbilised setting of India For sikhs stopped nadir shahs forces coming in. Now their sitting closer with reduced landmass It would diplomatically resolve lot of issues if a way could be found to send the west majha sikhs back to west punjab pakistan as rulers. Its a win for them. Its win for india whos resolving a difficult situation it got given by ratcliffe line. Neither indias hindus nor sikhs were treated with respect when the muslim league took land. India unfortunately had to face not only burden of that conflict, but sikhs from there were reeling not knowing how to react. That led to generations of trauma. But thankfully the sikhs who it affected began to change, most are clean shaven jatt sikhs who tactily understood seperate religion into a weekend compartment, weekday study achieve, friday night sing putt jatta de, but never mix all 3. They 65% have a timeline fulfilment which is non polithcal. To nurture ability in their group, singing, business, sports, being best at everything competing, outdoing their ownself..they plan to keep migrating west. A tribe among them ranked number 2 aluwalia, a very dense concentrated dna will go south india to understand sit with hindus subject to racism.. as aluwalia transition from title building to soaking up humility. But for likes of amritpals im afraid thatbis twisted dna on timeline.. they not understanding what happened. Sant bhindrawale was a malwein. His region pro india. He left there to meet majha opposite. It was politics. Not religion.
Instigating interviewer 😢 @Ravi Kapoor. You may like to correct your name title as Retd. IRS, not IRS. Inspirational, matured thoughtful responses from the gentleman respondent. He should rather be seen as inspiration by the UPSC aspirants
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bhindranwale said khalistan must be made if the golden temple got attacked no sikh wanted khalistan they just wanted the anandpur sahib resolution but after june, many started to campaign for khalistan till this day
Today date Ramesh inder Singh special bring from up or bihar to Amritsar overnight made commissioner and he sign to Army operation to killed his own people. Helping badal dal get promoted from government . Give order to kill children old people and women innocent sangat. Shame. Guru ramdas ji Aap Jani Jaan
If Indians are repenting upon blue star why the government killers of India govt are alive running around enjoying life why can’t they punish them up to down why Russian were involved why model was built and army practice before the real temple why is that it was pre planned and congress won the fruits maximum power gained
Frankly. Indian govt thought that seeing the army with Tanks, Bhindrawale will come out and surrender. They had no idea of the grit of sikhs. Even Gen Brar being a sikh seemed to be oblivious of it. Bhindrawale and his gang made the army retreat in initial hours. The army was made to look like immature. The violence that followed could not be handled for years. KPS gill daved the day for India. Else India was about to be balkanised. The govt now realises that never to unnecessarily mess with Sikhs.
As DC of Amritsar and the police SP, SSP, DIG range what was their responsibility and accountability . These are the self centred crooks who should have been held accountable and responsible for the deteriorated Law and order and allowing arms ammunition to go inside the temple .
face it mature leadership is missing. They play roles for their own purposes. They can't have a interstate conference to update the procedures. There has been no discussion on anandpur sahib resolution
Is the govt.of india has tespect of constitution and firmly working according to the constitution??? Why india compromised on territorial integration as we lost more than 44000 km. Area to china???
Bhai last point id like to make 1. Bhindrawale may have been shaped by sardar kapur Singh born in Pak...Bhindrawale born in pro India Malwa, but his audiences were like influential sardar kapur s. & Hariana was not part of Punjab. It historically was jatland under Gokul haga. Britain put it in Punjab to administer Himachal had Sikh population that went back to Hinduism 1870s could be 28% of Sikh entirety dateline So map Pakistani ISI produce gives false account. + Instead Pak must give back Pak Punjab to manga Sikhs forced to leave there
Gurgaon, hisaar and one more dist was added to punjab by the british after 1857 revolt. Rest of the current haryana’s land was already either part of punjab or part of sikh rulers kingdom.
Sikhs lost their right on pakistani punjab’s land the day we chose to side with india believing on nehru gandhi’s false promises. Jinnah offered sikh more then few rights as well if we decided to go with pakistan but we didn’t. So onus is on india who back stabbed sikhs not pakistan because we never went with them.
@@What-yz7zdwhy would " we" Majhaa jatt Sikhs 50% Sikh entire populace give up claim to 65- 70% land( Pakistan Punjab) Because Nehru gave a "promise"? What exactly were words of this promise? What year was this " promise" made in? Jinnah (whiskey drinker khoja) organised you "day of action" riots targetting Sikhs by 1946 end ( to escalate 1947) Why would you give 70% of land Jameen Buddah Dal Tarna Dal defended from 1700s with their own hands To Nehru? Who backstabbed Hindus first by not sending Islam to Pakistan What's special about him? He from Allahabad Utter Pradesh Your from Lahore entrusting 70% Ranjit Singhs earnt landmass to Nehru who come from same biradri as Jinnah?
@@What-yz7zd Britain screwed you over. Opened up your border posts, let Persians come baby boom, replace your num Into your landmass. While your eulogising perfect admin org of Europeans Where was largest recruitment for Colonial Soldiers? Undivided Punjab. You served Empire They done you, The people you protected 1770s+ after entering Lahore Gate Done you 1947 None of your putt Jatta de loyalty with Pakistani Muslims helped..they backstabbed you by taking Pakistani Rajput Miah teli side To take Khattri Sikh khatri Hindu businesses 43% Lahore They took 5 of your district's green jatt Sikh majha land in your kabza Then took entire jameen of West Punjab Pakistan by messages of force to tell you your time is not in Pakistan anymore. That's not all they did. Post 1947. Pakistani Punjab behind your backstabbed back Bought Kashmiri ismaelis khojas in ( ex pundits) they added in words that fused Shia administration of Pak with further subtle anti Sikh zeal Telling Pakistanis Sikhs took land unconventionally. You got backstabbed by people who paid your salary, military service Empire Then changi tra backstabbed by your west majha putt Jatta da club.
Your twisting the speakers words. One can just as easily request amritpal to ask Pakistan "You sit on 65% Sikh land, of 2 Takhats, 356 gurdwaras, where is Sikh hakk? Dhao" Ghl khtm
The Indian system of governance does not sack punish the IAS /IPS officers and Netas . The uprising by the sikhs and taking over of golden temple by Bhindranwale was allowed by them . Instead of promoting like the armed forces a pyramid of promotions must be there so that however good the in dividual where lapses take place they must retire no higher than director SSP Level . The IAS and IPS at centre and state Home ministry failed totally .
I think the golden temple operation was a badly planned operation made at the spur of the moment. Whoever finalised the army taking action against bhindrawale was not a cold blooded thinker. Otherwise special forces would have been used or intelligence operatives to surround and infiltrate the golden temple and capture the govt's opponents within the temple. It was an emotionally charged decision making process at delhi. The lack of meticulous planning at army hqs or at western command and the state police headquarters showed in the results obtained. Basically it was a comedy of errors. A series of events happened and were mismanaged. Though everything is in the past, i would say there is something to learn from it for the home ministry and defence forces of india. Since the defence ministry is not a professional organisation its no use including it in the matter. The bluestar operation was carried out with brute force, at the spur of the moment and in a rushed manner. The next operation at the golden temple was better planned and executed
Indo-Pak Partition incorrectly handled by Congress. 7 million hindus & sikhs cross to India fm pak. 35 million muslims in india stayed. Partition formed on faith lines. Post 1947 + Hindu population remaining in pakistan bangla declined from 23% to a staggering 3% between 1951 to 2024. excluding 1947, 7 million Hindus & Sikhs who left to go india earlier ( todays terms 35 million migrated out) 1951+ 17,200,000 of 75,000,000 pak bangla populace = hindu dissapeared gone off radar or forcefully converted inside pak bangla where their admins hid evidence. Trickle trace = yunus hindu clampdown/ pakistans blasphemy laws, kashmir in indias threats raliev taliev galiev convert leave or die. Properties confiscated taken free. No detection inside pak bangla from 1947 to 2005. Political regimes would not allow access. That's little snippet out, tip of iceberg. What else took place behind that? While any sikhs migrated from pakistan 1947 (50%) complaint lack of "promises" fulfilled to them? & Why is india being blamed for that?
Because Sikhs would’ve stayed in Pakistan and killed as many muslims as they could to keep their lands instead India promised them sovereignty and they regrouped in east Punjab while planning to invade Pakistan Punjab than Nehru threatened Sikh jathas with air strikes if they invaded so instead they killed all muslims in east Punjab Haryana himachal
There is no such thing as mishandeling everything is allowed to a point where it can be cashed by the ruling political party There was no mishandeling with bhindranwala there is no mis handeling with amritpal. There was no pakistan involved. 99 % of R&AW 's work is inside the country.
This podcast on Op Blue Star & how speaker says, Operation was wrong, mistake & blunder by Indira Gandhi, army etc. However it's very easy to say/blame over past events with wisdom of hindsight, knowledge of consequences, all nitty-gritty known by sitting relaxed ,with plenty of time to analyze, by securing all data, 30 yrs after the event. Both political & armed forces had no precedent at that moment, no example to draw lessons from & obviously mistakes r bound to happen when we do for 1st time ( which India paid by blood of PM, Army chief etc). When we speak badly about Op Blue star, why don't we redeem saying that we learnt lessons & executed similar Operation & in same circumstances In Golden temple better way in 1986 & 1988, Black Thunder 1 & 2 which was totally police & NSG Operation?
Sir ne bilkul galat bola ki akhand kirtani jatha and babbar khalsa ne 13 nirankari maare. It is opposite. Nirankari ne 13 sikh maare the who were peacefully agitating against Nirankari because nirankari speak disrespectful words and acts against our gurus. How can sikhs tolerate this. Nirankari killed 13 sikhs which were from akhand kirtani jatha. Correct your info. Akhand kirtanee jatha is purely religious kirtan doing organisation. But we can't listen disrespectful things about our guru sahiban from nirankari or any other organisations. I am from akhand kirtanee jatha. This person has mistakenly said wrong things. Harsimran singh chandigarh.
@@harjinderbharaj2055 it's not that any1 stopping I Ground reality. It's simply majhaa jatt driven. Not about religion veerji. But for farming guys & Singh's in it.. it confluences.. Yet what your up against asides from bigger malwei opposition 1. Landlocked. 2 Indias china going friendly 3. India possesses solo mathematical arsenal without lifting a finger. Just look at Pakistan crumbling. India doesn't need to touch it. 4..Patna sahib, hazur sahib entry? 5. Punjab Dalits pro India as Dalit samaj mostly there. 6. Sikh religion is not ideological in set up..North West region biradri does not mean profession it is Race. 7. Ramgharia Tribe outside Punjab in big cities are very pro India. They hold influence in big civil contracts engineering.. your going to get a direct split from 2nd biggest Sikh group. 8. Dalits are unable to commit to Sikh religion due to Ravidas umbrella including Hindus from their tribe who smoke biri, eat all sorts of meats in abundance & drink as a way of life. Their passion is building things their own way.. Without rules. 9.india can give you a Khalistan without loosing a cent... To india Punjabs countryside do not matter much. 10..if it's granted aside farming you will have to support 40% of state that does not farm. 11. How will you run oil gas supply?you cut out of India. It won't help. Will u go Pakistan? 11b. Now as you increasingly become dependant on Pakistan for key issues like oil gas water regulation. Slowly your cargo hub will come from there...making Punjab banana republic of Pakistan exactly what jinnah wanted. But comes at cost. 12.. nobody has power over weather...in history strong rains mean increase water flow..Punjab flat land...when your in trouble you only have Pakistan army with rescue equipment.. due to Punjabs heirarchical economic dependency. Making you tilt in that direction with your women kids... 13. Hindu Punjabis would leave Khalistan because their trading a life of a successful India instead of hardship in Punjab..it's not loyalty question. It's survival..you cannot depend on farming basket relieving on weather patterns 14..you have to convince bigger malwei majority if they wish to trade their kitty building with centre, titleships, little bit gold they can make, kids security For a life of uncertainty, because their majhail brother asked them to.
I would say the whole system of having Rs 60000 crore elections every 5 years led to the politics behind operation bluestar and its aftermath. The notion of democracy as the best system of governance in a superlarge country like india is one of the best examples of stupidity. Firstly we follow a sham democracy in the sense that the electorate in a parliamentary or assembly or city or panchayat constituency does not select its own candidates because of the laziness of the electorate or/and browbeating by political groups. Then there are various matchfixing issues in the electoral process by the middleman conducting the elections from the scrutiny/rejection of the nomination papers to the electioneering to the counting and declaration of votes. Not only the 1st middleman ie the eci but also the 2nd middleman ie the supreme court or high courts don't work impartially in a a timebound manner in case of electoral malpractices or allegations by the vanquished or the citizenry. The cost of having untrained gaggle or mob of people who change partially every few years leads to severe repercussions in the management cost to the nation where even simple mistakes at the minister level have caused gargantuan losses and steadily declining governance. The steadily increasing inflation, increase in politically motivated false cases against opponents, increase in criminals as political representatives, increase in number of ministries and minister equivalents and other malpractices have to be factored in for evaluating the democratic process vis a vis other forms of governance like a monarchy or dictatorship practiced in the west where a coterie of courtiers run the govt thru the backdoor
Waa kmaal di gal a j ona ne ahe kha c k Sanu khalistan nahi chaida te tuc kh re a k ahe word pljay a j ona ne kha hunda k hn mainu chaida e aa fer tuc vilkul ni c khna k ahe word play a ahe e ta chakr a fer khne a panjaab nal kiu ni rehna chaunda India de
Bhai none of this would have occured. Sikhs had 3 big Nanaksari saints last century dressed in white 1920s 30s who pushed number of Sikh farm community up by 1 5-th, It is said around same time other tribes who comprised in sikhism khatri kambo nai chimba went from 92% sikh 8% hindu to 30% sikh 70% hindu migrating further into india. Dalit samaj also somewhat distanced from Sikhism after ambedkar was insulted by head priest at akhal takhat 1927 So by 1984 what you saw unfold was hotbed of majha activity sat on borders. Ordinary sikh were not like that. Delhi sikh Ramgharia community protested to get taksali out of Temple. Akali dal representing South malwa largest num demanded temple be vacated. In my view bhiindrawales deep voice, knowledge of power play, knew how to draw majha crowd He could not have meant break up india as captain Harcharan Rode his own brother was indian army. It does not make sense. I find Sikhs unable to talk about 65 to 70% of their pakistan punjab landloss weird. 50% entirety left that to go india which was densely overcrowded. Creation of pakistan was biggest blunder in history. It could have been avoided. Kalat, kpk Gb should never have merged with west punjab but had that not happen pakistan could not form 50% Sikhs made to leave pak punjab for muslim leagues demand. It is huge thing sikhs lost 356 gurdwaras to pakistan...5 districts.. Hindus lost 42% lahore entirely distributed to pakistan. Congress also made mistake on 1946 round table talks with khidamtgyar pathan abdul ghaffar khan frontier ghandi, he wished to join kpk to india thru jk...no wish to join pakistan Sarjan Sarhali sgpc head at akhal takhat was approached by dr ambedkar 1930 to turn 60 mill dalit to sikhs He declined it.had that happened Entire west punjab would be today sitting with India not pakistan There would been no pakistan because kalat woukd be in baloch, kpk gone india or kabul, GB would be india Muslim leagues 1941 demand for pakistan would been outmanouvred. Dalit sikhs do not sit with 65% farm sikh fraternity. Most likely would have outreached to indian hindu dalits. Other segments of sikh religion today 27% khatri nai kambo ramgharia chimba saini ( urbanised sikhs) would have integrated further among hindu communities with a two way understanding. My personal belief only is congress could have handled it better. Captain amarinder singhs familys presence should hhave added counterweight to ghandis decision making. All they had to do was speak to captain harcharan singh rode to reign his younger brother in away from majha hardliners Isolate them, talk to them help them realise it was pakistan not india who took their land. Its misdirected in wrong place...india & hinduism absorbed blunder of 1947. Pakistan stole titles out of lahori hindus & majha sikhs. Pakistan should not be in existance. It is illegally created through stolen land. Jai Hind.
Other thing khalstanis need to consider. There was 2 way exchange Before it even got to atwal stage, Sant bhindrawale should have foreseen it, publically brokered treaty with cops & announced truce & his withdrawal, that would have de escalated. & Returned home to malwa chill out with his moderate setting. How can you buy into this paranioa that the state wants to finish sikhism? India has its own sikh regiment, it hires sikh police officers. Living proof among public - Sant Samaj had no problem, they also encouraged same sikh baptism. Nihungs do & live from delhi agra to maharashtra. So what an earth went wrong? Ddt had an issue with sects like radaswamis Their guru was a jatt sikh. He drew doaba jatt sikhs towards him Thats when you begin to break reality down. No Ramgharia sikh connected to any Jatha or Mainstream will ever be allowed to say anything wrong about Namdharis or their Guru. People like to group for whatever reason. It happened then.
All you have to do go jhullander, Chandigarh Ludhiana Patiala ask around. All people want is money in pocket, a home, bit of gold for wife to look pretty, build kitty for family life. Hor ki? $ dictates Either they stay in India, 1 of worlds top 4 performing economies projected numero Uno Or they back khalistan.$ development comm 🛑. 4 million Sikhs outside Punjab will not give up worlds 4th top economy performer to enter Punjab start again. Punjabi Sikhs will be landlocked, will have difficulty getting visa to go Patna hazur sahib..china India friendship grow 🪴.... Russia big bear central Asian Muslim republics connect with India for trade. They will snub Punjab in favour of bigger market performer. Afghanistan is finished in kashmir....they want $.. Kashmiris themself want to be doctors, Afghans warriors. Pathans got fed up left them..2 don't mix. Punjab will have Iran & Pakistan to look upto Pakistan made on top of Ranjit Singh's land Iran threw it's illegal immigrants @ Punjab 1847+ to baby boom Punjab will naturally merge into Pakistan for economic survival It cannot cope with agriculture alone That will not sit with Malwa majority Sikhs who are culturally economically invested towards India's centre Delhi Doaba zone more Hindu Dalit khatri, few moderate Muslims, Sikhs & Radaswamis will be uncomfortable with Pakistan Say a flood occurs in Beas affecting Amritsar Gurdaspur, You will lean to Lahore for emergency assistance.. Nothing derogatory to say about Pakistan punjab It could well find new ways But ultimately kpk want Kabul not Pak Kalat wants out with Baloch GB want India Leaving khalistani majhe aale Sikhs with Potohari Faisalabad Pakistanis How that sits with damdami taksal their own issue But there is not going to be doomsday chaos It's just do you stick with what you know or stick your hand out thinking better option leave but youl get in trouble with no helper Remember dynamics of sikhism changed The map pannun produced is isi inspired asking Sikhs to take land in Himachal Delhi hariana Punjabi is not spoken in Himachal. Hariana devnagri ( barring Ambala few odd places) new Delhi's carved out of jaatland farm territory Different history
J sara kuj foreign forces e krondia ne fer ahe v das dinde k jdo masse rangar ne beadbi kri c Harmandir sahib di ta odo sukha singh Mehtab singh jina ne ona da sir vad k neje te tang k la gye c Harmandir sahib to bahr ta oh keri foreign force ne kraya c te jdo baba Deep Singh Ji sarovar nu poorn alya nu sodhan lai ardas kri c ta oh keri foreign forces ne kraya c mara ja ahe v dsdyo vadde gyani ji
Sanatan and Sikhi is not one under Sikhi everything comes. Get your minds cleared on this. Had it not been for hindu caste society divisions india would never have been a slave. Hindus are not trustworthy same as muslims.
70% of it is100% Pakistan punjab. 1947 50% tusi India kio ay? Your ones Pakistan punjab who upon lose battle to Britain Anglo Sikh war Become good friend...they open up your Punjab Persia border post Let Persians come in Pakistan Punjab baby boom Pakistan jatt take Sikh jatt land legally yours..they send u india with Khalistan map to make on Himachal hariana who speak devnagri pahari Himachalis stopped being Sikh 1870 .. hariana was under bharatpur jat dynasty What started as equal ratios 1790 jatt Muslims invite jatt Sikhs invade Lahore gate by 1947 Muslim birth rate x 12 13 outnumbered you You could not technically fight them on flat green farmland Yes Nehru was wrong He should put you at round table to ask you what you wanted But he was also wrong to Hindus in keeping Muslims in India after Hindus got kicked out or vanished in east west Pakistan. We all got double crossed by leftist Congress party. It was not just you Neither India nor Hindus wronged Sikhs in 1947 Be man enough to confront what Pakistan done to you in 3 days Did not happen in history They had hybrid Persian (1847+ dense) with Pak Punjabi gene When Britain refused to hear your complaints of Persians entering Punjab 1847+ You should have known there is a bigger engineered filter gameplay beyond your comprehension that took place in a disciplined step by step European militaristic format. Once done..gone.
Kii bhkai Mari jana ae asi panjab ch e a te asi ta chaune a k khalistan Bane aive ahe banda sarya nu e gumrah kr reha ae k panjab ch koi khalistan ni mang reha
If malwei Sikh Bhindrawale never met radical Pakistan born Sardar kapur Singh He would stayed among his brother Harcharans military circles, Kapur Singh ne khm crab Kita yar
It's not just country issue Partition = dirty business Landmass of Pakistan Punjab belongs to Sikh religion. Iranians walked in, with locals baby boomed, took west Punjab out of Sikh handss away from 1847 to 1947 Pushing 15 million Sikhs 35 million Hindus ( in today's terms, then 2.5 million Sikhs 5 million Hindus) Sikhs forced to leave there had to because Nehru's settlements Who was he to them? India is 1.4 billion overcrowded Muslim league inherited a huge landmass for 200 million? For doing nothing more than just having babies, accusing you of blasphemy, making you feel guilty. Then take your land So now your running helter skelter on reduced land with reduced opportunities Sikhs blame Hindus Nehru's nothing to do with Hindu religion Creation of Pakistan made chaos for India
To all my sikh brother you are so arrogantly saying kitne hindu mare and before saying this you forget that Sikhism is also a part of Hinduism pls read your gurugranth sahib you will find more than 800 times gurunanak ji mentioned the Ram so before coming to conclusion you need to understand that you are fighting with yourself only ..let me tell you 2 -3rd of Punjab went to Pakistan but non of the khalistani demanded till date khalistan part in that Punjab so it clearly indicate that Pakistan is involved with traitors of Punjab who called themself Sikh otherwise they should have claimed larger part of Punjab which is with Pakistan as khalistan land and now come to Indira Gandhi yes it's total disaster created by her to claim her political position through bhindrawale who went out of his hand but how can you give him free hand and other political and religious wing of Harmandir sahab who allowed them to carry weapon and sized the temple ,now tell me once he entered and fortified the temple with weapon what option they left should we bend on their demand ,come to today scenario if militant capture the Vaishnav Devi temple don't you think that arm forces will not conduct operation to free that so pls try to understand non of the army personal have the intention of hurting the feelings of Sikhs but when temple was captured and they were using that as their safe point then what option they left just let me know
Indira Gandhi made a huge blunder. Sikhi is an integral part of India...
I refuse to believe Indra was Hindu
How could amber fort gold be looted out of a Mandir under tax precursor?
She gave back 5000 sqkm of land India army won fair square
Why would she give 93k pows back who hurt hindus?
Nehru accepted loc line, let hari Singh down, why he put special status?
Every action points to anti hinduism
Tricky brother.
Sikh religion is naturally part of India & Pakistan.
Sikhs in history not only spread outside Punjab, other tribes left Sikhism went back to Hinduism once reign of Ranjit Singh ended
1900s hindu farmers became Sikhs adding 1 5th to sikh religion
With bigger num tilt 65% bloodlines became dense, concentrated, fuelled by titles, heirarchies who has what where.
But to outside world it looked like Sikh ideals
being sikh i would say that 1984 effect us a lot but we will alaways to be an integral part of india bharat mata ki jai
Jai hind. Blue star should have been stopped. Bhindranwale should have not grown this much.
One of the best informative podcast I ever heard.
Thank you sir.
Better you see Lieutenant General Kuldip Singh Brar who was the then Commander of Operation Blue Star. Your view will change
Dear ravi sir, i would like to tell you if you want to go through full military experience of operation blue star please bring "Lt gen kuldeep brar" , the operational commander of bluestar, he will tell you every detail of the operation and will also give you some bone chilling experience of 1971 war , please sir bring him on your podcast thanks you.❤
Naaah Brother… it will be a totally biased perspective, I’ve read his book Operation Blue Star nd it’s totally one sided perspective book… He portrayed himself a Hero , he might be for his platoon but in reality he just fabricated his own story with no truth
@KanwarBaltejSinghGill-gr5ch hid didn't potrayed himself a hero, infact what he was going on an annual leave but that time the army commander lt gen. Krishaswamy sunderji called him and made him the operational commander, if he didn't started the operation in next 1-2 days the punjab would be not in India, it was that any time punjab was declared to a khalistan
Dont try to justify genocide of sikhs. Sant bhindranwale never demanded for khalistan. Blue star was all about genocide did by indian army. And KS brar is the biggest lier.
Govt dalla ..Kuldeep brar
I have seen Gen KS Brar interview with other people. He knows internally that what he did was a total mess and failure but he takes the help of lies and fabrication to somehow justify his performance.
Even him didn't tell the full story. KP Brar story is for government. No one wants talk about the real thing happened on the ground which lead this incident.
Punjab Police was one of the main culprits. Why they allowed Nirankari to kill 5 peyars X 2 total 10 in his stsung. Why Nirankari torn apart Guru Granth Sahib & told his preachers that he was the real guru. And Indian govt & police put blind eye on every thing.
Indira Gandhi was a arrogant lady., she can travel to Kashmir to meet Faruq Abulla but not to Amritsar for Sikh sentiments. Sikhs fought for India Independence more than any other race, but were treated as crap after Independence.
Indian Govt. decided to take revenge on Guru Arjan Dev ji's saheddi day.
Remember Akal That was made to counter currupt govt. of the time. In past, it was Mugals than British & then Indian corrupt politicians. Sikhs always work for humanity & fight for injustice.
BTW Hindu people who got killed in Buses in punjab was killed by govt. personal in the attire of Sikhs. When I was in Kashmir from 1990 to 1997 CATS do the same kind of work. When I was citizen of India I cant tell. Now I am Merican & i don't fear govt.
Bhindrawala never wanted to engage any Army personal, because he loved the army, but if army strikes backs as the puppet of Indra Gandhi then death before dishonor.
His fight was against the corrupt leaders, police, and bureaucrats. See his BBC video tapes.
Indian govt put an information blackout in Punjab. So, no information leaks to international media. Its damm political killing of sikhs.
One day Pakistan will also pay for the things he did in Punjab for his political gain. It was a movement against Nirankari baba, and Indira govt took side of him.
Make one thing very clear, for Sikhs Guru Granth Sahib is supreme. If some attacks on it. Real Sikhs don't care about his life. Sikhs killed Army General, India Gandhi but why not her grandkids, reason is we Sikhs are not criminals. Sikhs punished those who gave the orders, not the foot soldiers. When Ravna took Sita Mata to Lanka, lord Ram didn't kill the people of Sri Lanka.
I live in abroad, never seen someone gave money to talk about Khalistan. People say Khalistan because they want the Indian govt to react. If the Indian govt. is wise they start the talk with Sikhs about genocide. No one wants killing, and no one wants Khalistan, they want the Indian govt to say sorry for destroying our sacred place. But the Indian govt. will not do that because govt. want this issue for votes bank. Everything is about votes.
Bhindrawala just Indira gandhi servant...who try to destroy akali dal party and gyani jail singh help him... akali dal very powerful in Punjab and pakistan also want destroy Punjab because 1965 Sikh and Tamil people beat pakistan army...so Punjab broke win situation by pakistan isi... Christian missionaries also want setup in Punjab slowly..... haryana Punjab rich in food if you capture on him... money to mp seat.. because all leaders during 1976 time Narendra Modi to bajpayee hide in Punjab... haryana jaat gujjar baniya kill by khalistani bhindrawala and rape girls...stop bus... and newspapers owner kill...hindu vs Sikh jatt start...
Ex army head fake corruption case ... otherwise bhindrawala not powerful in gorila war...just kill in 2 hour...so some army officer also responsible for... Indira Gandhi behind fake corruption case..why bhindrawala with gun bomb in temple...where national flag not allowed..
Bhai ek fark btata hu koi answer dena plz? Canada me ek sikh mra ha and unhone tufan khada kr rakha hai and hmare jha sikh genocide hua and kisi ko sja nahi mili.
Bhai Yhi Farak hai India or Canada isliye wo khalistan chahte hai .. actual mai jo log wha gye hai wo sabse jyada pyaar krte Sikhism se bhut saare victims hai 1984 and 90s panjab ke jinke fathers ko mothers fake encounters mai mara gya unke beta ya beti bach gyi wo Canada mai gye or wo log tab se hate krte hai india ko kyuki unhone 2 baar genocide dekh liya phele 47 mai or dosri baar 90s mai !! Ab log country chate ..or jo yha ke sikhs hai chate to wo bhi hai lekin bolne se darte agar aaj voting ho jaye to 90% log khalistan banayege and I don't see anything wrong in it !!
1984 Sikh genocide was planned and implemented by Congress, but still people of punjab vote for the same Congress.
Brother. Canada sits on top of corpse of Indigenous Americans
Unaccounted for.
special attention Sikhs recieve from trudeus french administration influenced by china gov policy ( now 180 other way working with India)
Indigenous canadians forgotten. Alberta BC is their land first.
If they had choice they would not want you, french or English on their land
Canada is not even name of place your on. It's called " Kanata" real Red Indian name given from Huron Iroquois meaning village
Brother your asli Jameen 65% Pakistan took. They killed 470,000 Sikhs in few days to get your jameen off you.
That trauma came India through generations passed into DNA stream
Played out manifested thru 1980s
You lost your kingdom trusting that lot. While they baby boomed with Arabs Persians during 19th century to stake claim in by 1941
Nobody would have died if you had followed the law and given up the wanted people you can blame that on the Sikhs Hindu's are in the right.
This guy is lying. First 13 members of Akanth Kirtan were killed by Nirang kari in Amritsar. Killing in Janlander was of Lala Gagat Naryan who was not innocent.
Calling a man a liar not take their credential away. Any 1970s trouble take 2 sides to tango. Gl khtm.
who did lala jagat narayan kill? You cant kill people for blapshemy. That is insane!
@@siddave549 Yes you can and they did !!
@@kulwindersingh2221 so you believe people who say negative things about sikh gurus or sikhism or any religious sect which diverges from main stream sikhism deserve to be killed?
She always has a anti punjab bias. From dividion of punjab to waters its been vindictiveness galore.
1947, 65 70% Punjab division already donated to Pakistan Muslim jatt rajpoot
50% entire Sikh populace move India 19 years before 1966, 7 million extra refujees influx to India with 200 year resource pillage
Sikh demands for land, @ same time jaat kingdom asking why British put part of their territory with Punjab? Divided 3 times
Himachal same time rise up, silently witnessed 1900s eminent west Punjabi writers write derogatory things about himachali culture & women. They were desperate to not only not be associated to Punjab anymore but were in cases Ex Sikh from around 1870+.
Sikhs had been bolstered by 1 5th by 3 Nanaksar Saints just 1920s 1927
Around same time sgpc formed rejected Indian Dalits from entering Sikh community
Which then pointed to a 65% jatt centric community focus
7 million to India 1947 figure = Hindus.
Uttarakhand was once described as a mini Punjab long ago. However Sikhs there came from landless castes. No interaction with Sikh Punjabis, they slowly filtered out, moved to other states, or became more influenced by Hinduism.
So only trace of Sikhism left became. Grandfather great grandfather then nothing
West UP there are still Nanakpanthis & sikhs both historical movements and locally.
Delhi Sikh Ramgharias different outlook. See fellow Sikhs as brothers but dislike farm culture. their icon Jassa Ramgharia had titles palaces land confiscated by Ranjit Singh. They hold historical grudges themself. But not enough to wish bad or vote against Punjabi language, but will naturally ridicule parts of Punjabi culture.
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Conclusion: Bhindrawala never demanded khalistan.....
Bhindrawala ne khalistan nahi manga......
Indra gandhi ne siraf ek election jeetne ke liye blue star kar diya....
Video evidence is present that he talked about khalistan he held weapons automatic rifles...he even openly admitted support of Pakistan!
@@saifullahmujahid1463 ohh tu saaleya apne paper tyaar rakh, CAA , NRC NAAL TU JAA DETENTION CENTER AIVEN SAADE WICH DAKHAL NA DE
@@saifullahmujahid1463he also said this that we will demand khalistan only if indian armh attacks harmandir sahib. Verify your knowledge first
Bro it's a blunder. Bhindrawale brother was a senior Indian Army captain Harcharn Rode. How can he fight his older brother?
Bhindrawale was from Malwa ( pro India), he skipped over Majhaa met men who held unfavourable views that could have been resolved joblessness, lack of land holdings, minor things. He then met Pakistan born Proff Sardar kapur Singh
Who told Sant Bhindrawale wrong stuff. Anti Hindu.
Kapur Singh described Hindus as a boa constrictor.look at 5000 Jews from 1000ad their still jew. 70,000 Parsis from 1200 years ago still monotheist
Then what Hindu ever said anything to sardar kapur Singh?
He came from Pakistan. He himself would be subject to anti Hindu parchar in Pak pre partition
However much of a scholar he was
If Bhindrawale never met him
He would have returned across the Satlej to join his malwei brethren chilled out among military type people his brother Harcharn was an example of that.
True
Worse thing is that Hindus of Amritsar shared sweet dishes with the army inside Harminder Sahib they were so happy after damaging Harmandhir Sahib.
& Giani Zail Singh Ramgharia Sikh Preacher walked in Golden Temple after approving it. He's from your biradri isn't he?
Do you see where this points?
There are Hindus who lost their own biological Sikh cousin brothers in Delhi from khatri nai kambo chimba communities
There are other biradris entirely Sikh who could not understand an entirely Hindu brahmin stance in amritsar
That had previous tension resulting from both anti Sikh & anti Hindu preaching in that time
Arya samaj v DDT
Lack of media, lot of confusion, anger
I am a sikh and nothing else. I have no brotherhood other than Khalsa brotherhood. This is poison for me to even think that. I am sacrificed to my Guru,s teachings. I am dog of Guru ghar and have lived and will live according to my Guru,s teachings with practice. My children married with Amritdhari partners and to the day we don't know their partners bradary , so now you think what you said ! Where are you sir because I think you have long way to learn about sikhi. Please just be a good and Gursikh . We are all one family don't create divisions . Don't think you are any different than others.
People who think he belongs to this bradary and I belong to that and that one that, they are not even sikhs because this is what our Gurus got us out from( dirt). It is fundamental teachings if sikh faith. If you still think the same as before our Gurus time then I am afraid you have not moved an inch. You are no where near sikhi teachings.
@@narindersinghmarway9332 Ramgharia gurdwara. Bhatra sangat gurdwara. Tank Khattria gurdwara. Afghan sangat gurdwara. Ravidas gurdwara. Biradri aale.
@@narindersinghmarway9332 Akj bk ( taksalis jatt ( khalistani) Gnnsj Tarcan ( pro Indian). Ravidasis - pro Indian.
Nanaksaria more Pro Indian ex Kenyan tarcans..due to business interests.
Nihungs (upset ex tacsalis turned pro Indian 1 min, then twist turn into khadku khalistani next)
Lao brotherhood
Sant Shipahi Jarnail singh ji khalsa bhindrawale wale Zindabad🦅🦅🦅
He did pass away. DDT said he's alive. His own brother Harcharan S said he performed funeral rites in private.
Never forget 1984 💔
True & neither will Pakistans inteferance be forgotten.
Ye sab nuksan ka kasoorvar only indra gandhi hai,na vo jabrdasti army ko attack karne ko bolti na ye sab nuksan hota
No, Its bhindrawala, na wo Golden temple me illegally ghusta, na hindus ko marne ki announcement krta, na army ko action lena padta.
Indira Gandhi had her own faults,no sensible person supports her,but it doesn't make JS Bhindrawale totally unaccountable. Aur agar itni hi khuddari thi to uss chor congress ko wapas kaii baar Punjab mein waha ki public kyun laayi?
Sara kasoor sgpc ka tha..unhone Jarnail Singh ko akal thakth me ghusne kyu dia? And usne itne Hindus ko maare...aur kya govt usko maala daalti??
@@sahilsharma8594correct
@@navneetsingh9937 are bhai suni sunai bate mat kro ,pehle to ye study kro sant jarnail singh ji par koi FIR hui hai aur koi case bhi nahi sabit hua kisi hindu ko marne ka jin hinduo ko mara tha vo gorvment ne marvae the singho ke libas me apne bnde set karke taki sant ji ka nam laga sake lekin adalt me bhi proof nahi kar saki gorvment ,rahi bat sgpc ne unhe gurdwara sahib me therne diya ,iska matlab ap koi crime kro aur kisi bhi dharmik sthan me jakar rehne lag jao ,apko police batchit karke bahr lane ke ,apko bahr se hi golian marde aur bich me ane wale innocent logo ko bhi marde ye konsa moorkhta bhra canoon hai ,
After Doing Those kinds Of Things... System Justified Killing In Punjab From 1955,1984 to1995 ...
Hello sir!
I hope you are doing well
Could you please create another with episode with Mr Ramesh sir
I would be thankful to you for my entire life if you do so!
Love your work!
Words cannot be expressed how thankful I am!
Amritpal won on the Khalistan mandate how many Sikhs voted for Amritpal ? He won more votes than modi in his seat in gujrat
Sab kuch karti government he hai. Fir dusre religion and dusre desho ko blame karte hai.. Aaj kal log samjhte hai government kaise conspiracy rachti hai
Brother it was a despot ruler. Congress is a leftist pro islamist leaning party.
Fact that it went against Sikhs last 80 years offering abdullas Kashmir status, special rights waqf acquisitions, India was Congo ingrained
It's taken upto this point to understand way Sikhs got treated.
I'm Hindu....my heroes are shiv Maratha Guru Gobind Singh Gokul haga Rana Sangha Rana Pratap.... If my country India ever fell under Islamist sword it's Sikh principles I have to adopt to save my Hindu country & people
To me you are a Bhai, if we abroad we may be different caste. But automstically from me there respect however that's interpreted
Even same khalistanis abroad I just wish they look at their own uncles grand uncles who fought for India army to free goa. That's their hissa too
It's a shame how this ended up.
But at heart I still feel best method Sikhs Hindus Indians or Punjabi unionists or people who wish to separate mutually benefit all
If same Sikh majha jatt come together sit down create agreement with India USA gov & armies to see if possible solution may be explored that permits majha Sikhs to become rulers of West Punjab Pakistan home to 356 gurdwaras 2 Takhats 340,000+ square kilometres of hari green lush khetti Jameen.
@ least try krlo
It helps all 3 parties mutually
Today date Ramesh inder Singh special bring from up or bihar to Amritsar overnight made commissioner and he sign to
Army operation to killed his own people. Helping badal dal get promoted from government
Very well orated and well explained podcast..
Punjab political demands like shifting of Chandigarh and water issue should be addressed to settle Punjab issue at earliest.
@@HARJITSINGH-qo6pl does Chandigarh want to join Punjab fully? Or is it happy as it is?
What about the water?
Darbara singh's Picture which you are showing is Wrong. The Man in Picture is Darbara Singh Guru is an Indian politician belongs to the Shiromani Akali Dal party and a retired IAS officer, Principal Secretary to former Chief Minister of Punjab, Parkash Singh Badal from 2007 to 2011.
Is it right to keep firearm at a religious place? Just a simple question from Army brat n nephew of a soldier KIA in Op Bluestar
Yes, 6th guru himself ordered sikhs to bring weapons to akaal takht sahib. Don’t see sikhs through your Hindu pov. All the takhts have weapons placed higher than Guru Granth Sahib. Sikhs love peace, through weapons.
yes
Dear Brother. Historically Sikhism was a Religious - Political set up opposed Moghul empire.
Akhal Takht Represented Temporal Power. darbar Sahib Spiritual. Although past Sikhs had bore arms there to defend against moghuls Afghans things began to change
1930 Dr Ambedkar a Dalit leader of 60 million. Wished his tribe 2 b Sikh. He approached S Sarhali Head at Akhal Takht. Who declined & insulted his tribe as " chure"
50 years before that 1870 a chunk of Sikhs in Himachal went back to Hinduism
A large influx of hindu farmers into Sikhism around 1920s coupled with 50% new arrivals of Sikh refujees mostly farmers from Pakistan Punjab 1947
Affected khatri kamboj jhir ghumar nai tilt that was 92% Sikh stat 8% 1920s to 30% Sikh 70% Hindu with large chunks migrating to Delhi up Mumbai
The gap between the landowners of Punjab and landless Dalits grew
Fabric between society and Sikh religion loosened
Most Sikhs do not follow SRM codes set by Akhal Takht on preserving hair, alcohol restriction, caste
Jathedars come go
Practically Sikhs no longer faced threat. The ghandi dynasty in my view should kept clear of politics.
Indra married by nikka, attended Opec Arab conferences, she gave back 5000sqkm of Indian army land won from Pak conflict, handed back 93 k pows, her father Nehru accepted loc let down hari Singh, put up special status. Congress early days from 1920s played double dealing agents in Kashmir among Hindus letting them down
Ghandis were not going to treat Sikhs right
Nor fit to rule country later
Sikhs will argue Darbar Sahib has right to bear arms..ok by all means ceremonially. Not for drawing out.
But Indra misused India's forces. Which then Sikhs saying their right all along. It's a vicious circle thats best left
Sikhs are hurt, no amount of words that can repair their feelings.
All we can do is regret that both sides came to this. Meant to be brotherly but end up like that.
Bhai heart goes out to your uncle who unknowingly ended up in brother v brother conflict. Likewise Hindus and Sikhs lost people they knew.even Sikhs had relatives on both sides of conflict
There are tribes where one is Hindu other is Sikh. They got caught on both sides of that. Farm communities suffered massively..Dalit samaj Sikh remnants suffered heavily in Delhi..
So much pain regret.. and their all brothers rewind 200 300 500 years one would say " khidda Bhai" help each other
But look at wat politics did
@@kanwar.gi11why don’t your bring nuclear weapons then? this is absurd. Trying to fortify a temple somewhere else and see what happens. Why don’t you try this in canada?
Congress was responsible for sikh genocide. But, we have to accept this fact as well, that so called "warriors" deliberately took shelter where Guru Granth Sahib was kept. So, we have to accept this fact also that bhindrawala was a coward. Bcz he knew if he will take shelter inside the sacred sactum sanctorum..force wont attack him and he will proud as a Warrior. But, in reality he was a coward. Because, if he has been a warrior he would have never entered it, for the purpose of taking shelter.
Ravi kapoor. You’re trying to force your perception on the guest. Applaud your guest’s neutrality
This was the biggest blunder never this should have been done never there were other means to it but not like this fashion very sad episode.
The nation should appreciate Dr. Ambedkar’s struggle within this background of Indian society and then assess his contribution to the making of Indian independence and democracy as a more meaningful proposition. Dr. Ambedkar explained his political philosophy in his address at the Round Table Conference in London in 1930, from which I quote at length:
“The Depressed Classes had welcomed the British as their deliverers from age long tyranny and oppression by the Orthodox Hindus. Has the British Government done anything to remove it? Before the British, we could not enter the temple. Can we enter now? Before the British, we were denied entry into the Police Force. Does the British Government admit us in the Force? Before the British, we were not allowed to serve in the Military. Is that career now open to us? There is certainly no fundamental change in our position.
We must have a Government in which men in power will not be afraid to amend the social and economic code of life which the dictates of justice and expediency so urgently call for. This role the British Government will never be able to play. It is only a Government which is of the people, for the people and by the people that will make this possible.
He was only talking about his caste mahars
@@cheapthrills9035which was his duty at the given time
Even though real Justice was never done . Both side innocent people died.
How long one has to drag this issue ?
Accords were signed.
When the party ruling that time , the PM of that party has apologized.
What is end solutions ?
Are you serious??? How long it has to be dragged ? Have you ever seen your father killed in front of you ? Have you ever seen your father forced to lay upon your sister while making both of them naked ? Have you ever seen the brutality of the armed forces that they are killing the children of 3-4 years even some of them were infants ? If you are hindu, do you have courage to see tanks entering into ram mandir ?? If you are muslim, can you see tanks entering into makka madina ?? How you guys even can say that just forget what happened at that time. Sorry brother we can’t. And you are saying the ruling party at that time (congress) , their PM has already been apologized. What a joke brother. Are you guys really that dumb ? Or just acting to be dumb ? They choose a sikh PM to apologize on behalf of congress party for the genocide of sikhs ? So logically, sikh is saying sorry for the genocide of sikh community . These all are political games that you guys are not aware of. Does Sonia gandhi ever apologized for that thing ? Does your so called modi government ever declare the 1984 thing as a SIKH GENOCIDE ? How should we believe in these governments and this constitution? It’s been 40 years and still justice is not being given to Sikhs. Remember one thing brother: JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED. You guys are giving us the points to think that sikhs need their land and their sovereignty, because majority is not treating minorities in an equal manner. Every rule is different for you guys and for us. If a family member of your family thinks in a way that he is not being treated well, what should be your first step ?? Give him some extra love, make him feel loved, just take extra care of him. Right ?? What you guys are doing with sikhs ??? Suppressing them by your political power, population power. By every means you guys just want to suppress the sikhs so that you should show the sikh community that now is your time, your rule and your government. This thing forces us to remind that there was a time when we were the rulers of the greatest kingdom of the world: THE SIKH EMPIRE. And we should get our sovereignty back which we are forgetting day by day.
There is a solution. West Punjab Pakistan technically legally 65 to 70% landmass belonged to Ranjit Singh.
In his absence that land should be granted to
1. Sikhs 2. Buddal Dal Tarna Dal 3. Captain Amarinder Singh's dynasty
DO U REALLY THINK THAT BOTH SIDES ALMOST EQUALLY PEOPLE DIED ?? FIRST CHECK HOW MANY DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS WERE RA*ED, HOW MANY DASTARS (PAGRI) OF SARDAR PEOPLE WERE ON THE STREETS, WHAT THEY DID WITH THE GURUDWARAS, WHAT THEY DID WITH "GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI" ??
U WILL NEVER KNOW THE FEELINGS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND RELIGION PEOPLE WHOSE EVERY ANCESTOR, GURUS, SIKH SOLDIERS GAVE SUPREME SACRIFICES JUST TO SAVE HINDUS AND 🇮🇳.
SO PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH U PEOPLE THINK THAT IT IS A VERY SMALL ISSUE, SIKH'S WHOLE HISTORY IS FULL OF SACRIFICES EVEN MORE THAN ANY OTHER.
EVEN AFTER THIS, IN DEFENCE SIKHS ARE THE MOST SELECTED ONES FROM PUNJAB OR ANY OTHER STATE.
LATER U ALL ARE THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED THE TREND OF "LASSI" "OYE PAPA JI".
BETA HAMEIN TO KOI DIKKAT NHI HAI LEKIN TUMNE HAR BAAR HI PROVE KIYA HAI KI TUM SANATANI NHI HO, SANATAN RELIGION MEIN AISA BILKUL NHI SIKHATE HONGE.
MAAF KARO AGAR JYADA BOLDIA HO(BUT SACH HI BOLA HAI) 🙏.
DO U REALLY THINK THAT BOTH SIDES ALMOST EQUALLY PEOPLE DIED ?? FIRST CHECK HOW MANY DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS WERE RA*ED, HOW MANY DASTARS (PAGRI) OF SARDAR PEOPLE WERE ON THE STREETS, WHAT THEY DID WITH THE GURUDWARAS, WHAT THEY DID WITH "GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI" ??
U WILL NEVER KNOW THE FEELINGS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND RELIGION PEOPLE WHOSE EVERY ANCESTOR, GURUS, SIKH SOLDIERS GAVE SUPREME SACRIFICES JUST TO SAVE HINDUS AND 🇮🇳.
SO PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH U PEOPLE THINK THAT IT IS A VERY SMALL ISSUE, SIKH'S WHOLE HISTORY IS FULL OF SACRIFICES EVEN MORE THAN ANY OTHER.
EVEN AFTER THIS, IN DEFENCE SIKHS ARE THE MOST SELECTED ONES FROM PUNJAB OR ANY OTHER STATE.
LATER U ALL ARE THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED THE TREND OF "LASSI" "OYE PAPA JI".
BETA HAMEIN TO KOI DIKKAT NHI HAI LEKIN TUMNE HAR BAAR HI PROVE KIYA HAI KI TUM SANATANI NHI HO, SANATAN RELIGION MEIN AISA BILKUL NHI SIKHATE HONGE.
MAAF KARO AGAR JYADA BOLDIA HO(BUT SACH HI BOLA HAI) 🙏.
Just stop voting for congress. We as a country and people have already lost a lot. Can’t afford any further losses. It hurts to see that some Sikh brothers and sisters are still in favor of congress which only knows how to divide and rule. Not a political person but still a person with a sane mind
Ravi bhai. There is another angle ti this before khalistan created. Maharaja Ranjit Singhs corporate face was hindu muslim sikh..but
In order to achieve militaristic expansion he relied on his hardcore khalsa army remnants of 12 misls reshaped from Tarna Dal Buddah Dal Nihungs India. He also recieved help from kashmiri pundits who looked at future to decide good time & day.
His army sealed off western passes of todays Pakistan Punjab & Persia through a set of bunker posts.
When Britain took control 1847+..They open border posts to let migrant persians in to baby boom with local shia women.
By 1941 muslim league west british india demanded pakistan.in lahore session.
Britain hastily agreed pressurised by potential German ww2 looming in a deal muslim league would send soldiers to europe.
1946 jinnah calls daybof action targetting sikhs & hindus.
1947 pakistan created with nearly 70% of ranjit singhs landmass, muslim league activists rioters target sikhs forcing 50% of entire sikh populace with hindus to relocate to india.
Leaving behind 356 gurdwaras
Both hindus & sikhs owned 42% lahore outright. All gone.
Technically legally landmass of ranjit singh ( pakistan punjab) should either have been transfered to Buddah Dal Tarna Dal India who sacrificed from 1700s for it, or given to Captain amarinder singhs dynasty as thats where ranjit singhs 50% bloodline came out of.
The baby boomer persians who entered British India had destsbilised setting of India
For sikhs stopped nadir shahs forces coming in. Now their sitting closer with reduced landmass
It would diplomatically resolve lot of issues if a way could be found to send the west majha sikhs back to west punjab pakistan as rulers.
Its a win for them. Its win for india whos resolving a difficult situation it got given by ratcliffe line.
Neither indias hindus nor sikhs were treated with respect when the muslim league took land.
India unfortunately had to face not only burden of that conflict, but sikhs from there were reeling not knowing how to react.
That led to generations of trauma. But thankfully the sikhs who it affected began to change, most are clean shaven jatt sikhs who tactily understood seperate religion into a weekend compartment, weekday study achieve, friday night sing putt jatta de, but never mix all 3.
They 65% have a timeline fulfilment which is non polithcal. To nurture ability in their group, singing, business, sports, being best at everything competing, outdoing their ownself..they plan to keep migrating west. A tribe among them ranked number 2 aluwalia, a very dense concentrated dna will go south india to understand sit with hindus subject to racism.. as aluwalia transition from title building to soaking up humility.
But for likes of amritpals im afraid thatbis twisted dna on timeline.. they not understanding what happened.
Sant bhindrawale was a malwein. His region pro india. He left there to meet majha opposite.
It was politics. Not religion.
Wow, where can you read more of sir ?? and can you suggest books that comprehend properly what you say ?
A very good episode.
Instigating interviewer 😢 @Ravi Kapoor. You may like to correct your name title as Retd. IRS, not IRS.
Inspirational, matured thoughtful responses from the gentleman respondent. He should rather be seen as inspiration by the UPSC aspirants
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Darbar Sahib Amritsar pr india ny attack Kiya tha jy koi operation nhi tha
bhindranwale said khalistan must be made if the golden temple got attacked no sikh wanted khalistan they just wanted the anandpur sahib resolution but after june, many started to campaign for khalistan till this day
Bhindrawala was a Sant until he got brainwashed by Sardar Kapur Singh
& Majhaa hardliners.
Then his sidhu brar jatt DNA got manipulated against him.
This man is opportunistic he will only tell the truth t.hat favour him not complete truth
Today date Ramesh inder Singh special bring from up or bihar to Amritsar overnight made commissioner and he sign to
Army operation to killed his own people. Helping badal dal get promoted from government . Give order to kill children old people and women innocent sangat.
Shame. Guru ramdas ji Aap
Jani Jaan
Ehi deputy commissioner c us time Amritsar da
Please bring SP Vaid sir former DGP J&K❤️
If Indians are repenting upon blue star why the government killers of India govt are alive running around enjoying life why can’t they punish them up to down why Russian were involved why model was built and army practice before the real temple why is that it was pre planned and congress won the fruits maximum power gained
Frankly. Indian govt thought that seeing the army with Tanks, Bhindrawale will come out and surrender. They had no idea of the grit of sikhs. Even Gen Brar being a sikh seemed to be oblivious of it.
Bhindrawale and his gang made the army retreat in initial hours. The army was made to look like immature. The violence that followed could not be handled for years. KPS gill daved the day for India. Else India was about to be balkanised. The govt now realises that never to unnecessarily mess with Sikhs.
Bhindrawales own brother Harcharan was Indian army captain.
As DC of Amritsar and the police SP, SSP, DIG range what was their responsibility and accountability . These are the self centred crooks who should have been held accountable and responsible for the deteriorated Law and order and allowing arms ammunition to go inside the temple .
Sanu hathyar rakhna 6 Guru ne allow kre c oh v harmandir Sahib de andro e pehli vari ta kr k hathyar othe rakhna koi galt ni c
face it mature leadership is missing. They play roles for their own purposes. They can't have a interstate conference to update the procedures. There has been no discussion on anandpur sahib resolution
Bilkul shi
Strong federalism is only answer to all these incidents
Is the govt.of india has tespect of constitution and firmly working according to the constitution??? Why india compromised on territorial integration as we lost more than 44000 km. Area to china???
Bhai last point id like to make
1. Bhindrawale may have been shaped by sardar kapur Singh born in Pak...Bhindrawale born in pro India Malwa, but his audiences were like influential sardar kapur s.
& Hariana was not part of Punjab. It historically was jatland under Gokul haga. Britain put it in Punjab to administer
Himachal had Sikh population that went back to Hinduism 1870s could be 28% of Sikh entirety dateline
So map Pakistani ISI produce gives false account. + Instead Pak must give back Pak Punjab to manga Sikhs forced to leave there
Gurgaon, hisaar and one more dist was added to punjab by the british after 1857 revolt. Rest of the current haryana’s land was already either part of punjab or part of sikh rulers kingdom.
Sikhs lost their right on pakistani punjab’s land the day we chose to side with india believing on nehru gandhi’s false promises. Jinnah offered sikh more then few rights as well if we decided to go with pakistan but we didn’t. So onus is on india who back stabbed sikhs not pakistan because we never went with them.
@@What-yz7zddifferent language, different customs, no cultural trace = no claim.
@@What-yz7zdwhy would " we" Majhaa jatt Sikhs 50% Sikh entire populace give up claim to 65- 70% land( Pakistan Punjab)
Because Nehru gave a "promise"?
What exactly were words of this promise?
What year was this " promise" made in?
Jinnah (whiskey drinker khoja) organised you "day of action" riots targetting Sikhs by 1946 end ( to escalate 1947)
Why would you give 70% of land Jameen Buddah Dal Tarna Dal defended from 1700s with their own hands
To Nehru?
Who backstabbed Hindus first by not sending Islam to Pakistan
What's special about him? He from Allahabad Utter Pradesh
Your from Lahore entrusting 70% Ranjit Singhs earnt landmass to Nehru who come from same biradri as Jinnah?
@@What-yz7zd Britain screwed you over. Opened up your border posts, let Persians come baby boom, replace your num
Into your landmass. While your eulogising perfect admin org of Europeans
Where was largest recruitment for Colonial Soldiers?
Undivided Punjab.
You served Empire
They done you,
The people you protected 1770s+ after entering Lahore Gate
Done you 1947
None of your putt Jatta de loyalty with Pakistani Muslims helped..they backstabbed you by taking Pakistani Rajput Miah teli side
To take Khattri Sikh khatri Hindu businesses 43% Lahore
They took 5 of your district's green jatt Sikh majha land in your kabza
Then took entire jameen of West Punjab Pakistan by messages of force to tell you your time is not in Pakistan anymore.
That's not all they did. Post 1947. Pakistani Punjab behind your backstabbed back
Bought Kashmiri ismaelis khojas in ( ex pundits) they added in words that fused Shia administration of Pak with further subtle anti Sikh zeal
Telling Pakistanis Sikhs took land unconventionally.
You got backstabbed by people who paid your salary, military service Empire
Then changi tra backstabbed by your west majha putt Jatta da club.
Thanks to very active social media such things are not common anymore. Gaza and Palestine being an exception
39:22 ehi gal maddi hai je koi monna sikh bne twnu psnd ni anda assi km wade krde han chote ni never forget 84
Your twisting the speakers words.
One can just as easily request amritpal to ask Pakistan
"You sit on 65% Sikh land, of 2 Takhats, 356 gurdwaras, where is Sikh hakk? Dhao"
Ghl khtm
Question that i think was missed.....about Gen Shahbeg Singh
Love your attire Kapoor Sahab
The Indian system of governance does not sack punish the IAS /IPS officers and Netas . The uprising by the sikhs and taking over of golden temple by Bhindranwale was allowed by them . Instead of promoting like the armed forces a pyramid of promotions must be there so that however good the in dividual where lapses take place they must retire no higher than director SSP Level . The IAS and IPS at centre and state Home ministry failed totally .
I think the golden temple operation was a badly planned operation made at the spur of the moment. Whoever finalised the army taking action against bhindrawale was not a cold blooded thinker. Otherwise special forces would have been used or intelligence operatives to surround and infiltrate the golden temple and capture the govt's opponents within the temple. It was an emotionally charged decision making process at delhi. The lack of meticulous planning at army hqs or at western command and the state police headquarters showed in the results obtained. Basically it was a comedy of errors. A series of events happened and were mismanaged. Though everything is in the past, i would say there is something to learn from it for the home ministry and defence forces of india. Since the defence ministry is not a professional organisation its no use including it in the matter. The bluestar operation was carried out with brute force, at the spur of the moment and in a rushed manner. The next operation at the golden temple was better planned and executed
Sant Bhindrawale🙏🙏♥️♥️
Never Forget 1984 Our wounds are very raw
Indo-Pak Partition incorrectly handled by Congress.
7 million hindus & sikhs cross to India fm pak. 35 million muslims in india stayed.
Partition formed on faith lines.
Post 1947 + Hindu population remaining in pakistan bangla declined from 23% to a staggering 3% between 1951 to 2024.
excluding 1947, 7 million Hindus & Sikhs who left to go india earlier ( todays terms 35 million migrated out)
1951+ 17,200,000 of 75,000,000 pak bangla populace = hindu dissapeared gone off radar or forcefully converted inside pak bangla where their admins hid evidence.
Trickle trace = yunus hindu clampdown/ pakistans blasphemy laws, kashmir in indias threats raliev taliev galiev convert leave or die. Properties confiscated taken free. No detection inside pak bangla from 1947 to 2005. Political regimes would not allow access.
That's little snippet out, tip of iceberg. What else took place behind that?
While any sikhs migrated from pakistan 1947 (50%) complaint lack of "promises" fulfilled to them? & Why is india being blamed for that?
Because Sikhs would’ve stayed in Pakistan and killed as many muslims as they could to keep their lands instead India promised them sovereignty and they regrouped in east Punjab while planning to invade Pakistan Punjab than Nehru threatened Sikh jathas with air strikes if they invaded so instead they killed all muslims in east Punjab Haryana himachal
There is no such thing as mishandeling everything is allowed to a point where it can be cashed by the ruling political party
There was no mishandeling with bhindranwala there is no mis handeling with amritpal. There was no pakistan involved. 99 % of R&AW 's work is inside the country.
Pakistans involvement is admitted by surviving Sikhs
This podcast on Op Blue Star & how speaker says, Operation was wrong, mistake & blunder by Indira Gandhi, army etc. However it's very easy to say/blame over past events with wisdom of hindsight, knowledge of consequences, all nitty-gritty known by sitting relaxed ,with plenty of time to analyze, by securing all data, 30 yrs after the event. Both political & armed forces had no precedent at that moment, no example to draw lessons from & obviously mistakes r bound to happen when we do for 1st time ( which India paid by blood of PM, Army chief etc). When we speak badly about Op Blue star, why don't we redeem saying that we learnt lessons & executed similar Operation & in same circumstances In Golden temple better way in 1986 & 1988, Black Thunder 1 & 2 which was totally police & NSG Operation?
Attacking the holiest Sikh temple is a blunder in itself.
Sir ne bilkul galat bola ki akhand kirtani jatha and babbar khalsa ne 13 nirankari maare. It is opposite. Nirankari ne 13 sikh maare the who were peacefully agitating against Nirankari because nirankari speak disrespectful words and acts against our gurus. How can sikhs tolerate this. Nirankari killed 13 sikhs which were from akhand kirtani jatha. Correct your info.
Akhand kirtanee jatha is purely religious kirtan doing organisation. But we can't listen disrespectful things about our guru sahiban from nirankari or any other organisations.
I am from akhand kirtanee jatha.
This person has mistakenly said wrong things.
Harsimran singh chandigarh.
If you say so❤
Jai Hind 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
Long term Khalistan is unstoppable, 1984 is as alive today as it was in 84.
Disagree. India is money man. People go where bucks are.
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@@harjinderbharaj2055 it's not that any1 stopping I
Ground reality. It's simply majhaa jatt driven.
Not about religion veerji.
But for farming guys & Singh's in it.. it confluences..
Yet what your up against asides from bigger malwei opposition
1. Landlocked. 2 Indias china going friendly
3. India possesses solo mathematical arsenal without lifting a finger. Just look at Pakistan crumbling. India doesn't need to touch it.
4..Patna sahib, hazur sahib entry?
5. Punjab Dalits pro India as Dalit samaj mostly there.
6. Sikh religion is not ideological in set up..North West region biradri does not mean profession it is Race.
7. Ramgharia Tribe outside Punjab in big cities are very pro India. They hold influence in big civil contracts engineering.. your going to get a direct split from 2nd biggest Sikh group.
8. Dalits are unable to commit to Sikh religion due to Ravidas umbrella including Hindus from their tribe who smoke biri, eat all sorts of meats in abundance & drink as a way of life. Their passion is building things their own way..
Without rules.
9.india can give you a Khalistan without loosing a cent... To india Punjabs countryside do not matter much.
10..if it's granted aside farming you will have to support 40% of state that does not farm.
11. How will you run oil gas supply?you cut out of India. It won't help. Will u go Pakistan?
11b. Now as you increasingly become dependant on Pakistan for key issues like oil gas water regulation. Slowly your cargo hub will come from there...making Punjab banana republic of Pakistan exactly what jinnah wanted. But comes at cost.
12.. nobody has power over weather...in history strong rains mean increase water flow..Punjab flat land...when your in trouble you only have Pakistan army with rescue equipment.. due to Punjabs heirarchical economic dependency. Making you tilt in that direction with your women kids...
13. Hindu Punjabis would leave Khalistan because their trading a life of a successful India instead of hardship in Punjab..it's not loyalty question. It's survival..you cannot depend on farming basket relieving on weather patterns
14..you have to convince bigger malwei majority if they wish to trade their kitty building with centre, titleships, little bit gold they can make, kids security
For a life of uncertainty, because their majhail brother asked them to.
I would say the whole system of having Rs 60000 crore elections every 5 years led to the politics behind operation bluestar and its aftermath. The notion of democracy as the best system of governance in a superlarge country like india is one of the best examples of stupidity. Firstly we follow a sham democracy in the sense that the electorate in a parliamentary or assembly or city or panchayat constituency does not select its own candidates because of the laziness of the electorate or/and browbeating by political groups. Then there are various matchfixing issues in the electoral process by the middleman conducting the elections from the scrutiny/rejection of the nomination papers to the electioneering to the counting and declaration of votes. Not only the 1st middleman ie the eci but also the 2nd middleman ie the supreme court or high courts don't work impartially in a a timebound manner in case of electoral malpractices or allegations by the vanquished or the citizenry.
The cost of having untrained gaggle or mob of people who change partially every few years leads to severe repercussions in the management cost to the nation where even simple mistakes at the minister level have caused gargantuan losses and steadily declining governance.
The steadily increasing inflation, increase in politically motivated false cases against opponents, increase in criminals as political representatives, increase in number of ministries and minister equivalents and other malpractices have to be factored in for evaluating the democratic process vis a vis other forms of governance like a monarchy or dictatorship practiced in the west where a coterie of courtiers run the govt thru the backdoor
Waa kmaal di gal a j ona ne ahe kha c k Sanu khalistan nahi chaida te tuc kh re a k ahe word pljay a j ona ne kha hunda k hn mainu chaida e aa fer tuc vilkul ni c khna k ahe word play a ahe e ta chakr a fer khne a panjaab nal kiu ni rehna chaunda India de
Bhai none of this would have occured. Sikhs had 3 big Nanaksari saints last century dressed in white 1920s 30s who pushed number of Sikh farm community up by 1 5-th,
It is said around same time other tribes who comprised in sikhism khatri kambo nai chimba went from 92% sikh 8% hindu to 30% sikh 70% hindu migrating further into india.
Dalit samaj also somewhat distanced from Sikhism after ambedkar was insulted by head priest at akhal takhat 1927
So by 1984 what you saw unfold was hotbed of majha activity sat on borders.
Ordinary sikh were not like that. Delhi sikh Ramgharia community protested to get taksali out of Temple. Akali dal representing South malwa largest num demanded temple be vacated.
In my view bhiindrawales deep voice, knowledge of power play, knew how to draw majha crowd
He could not have meant break up india as captain Harcharan Rode his own brother was indian army.
It does not make sense.
I find Sikhs unable to talk about 65 to 70% of their pakistan punjab landloss weird. 50% entirety left that to go india which was densely overcrowded.
Creation of pakistan was biggest blunder in history.
It could have been avoided. Kalat, kpk Gb should never have merged with west punjab but had that not happen pakistan could not form
50% Sikhs made to leave pak punjab for muslim leagues demand.
It is huge thing sikhs lost 356 gurdwaras to pakistan...5 districts.. Hindus lost 42% lahore entirely distributed to pakistan.
Congress also made mistake on 1946 round table talks with khidamtgyar pathan abdul ghaffar khan frontier ghandi, he wished to join kpk to india thru jk...no wish to join pakistan
Sarjan Sarhali sgpc head at akhal takhat was approached by dr ambedkar 1930 to turn 60 mill dalit to sikhs
He declined it.had that happened
Entire west punjab would be today sitting with India not pakistan
There would been no pakistan because kalat woukd be in baloch, kpk gone india or kabul, GB would be india
Muslim leagues 1941 demand for pakistan would been outmanouvred.
Dalit sikhs do not sit with 65% farm sikh fraternity. Most likely would have outreached to indian hindu dalits. Other segments of sikh religion today 27% khatri nai kambo ramgharia chimba saini ( urbanised sikhs) would have integrated further among hindu communities with a two way understanding.
My personal belief only is congress could have handled it better. Captain amarinder singhs familys presence should hhave added counterweight to ghandis decision making.
All they had to do was speak to captain harcharan singh rode to reign his younger brother in away from majha hardliners
Isolate them, talk to them help them realise it was pakistan not india who took their land. Its misdirected in wrong place...india & hinduism absorbed blunder of 1947.
Pakistan stole titles out of lahori hindus & majha sikhs. Pakistan should not be in existance. It is illegally created through stolen land.
Jai Hind.
VOTA ok referendum Punjab 🌹
Referendum will say dalit Jhullandar India, mazhbi majha India, Malwa India
Hor ki regiya?
Other thing khalstanis need to consider. There was 2 way exchange
Before it even got to atwal stage, Sant bhindrawale should have foreseen it, publically brokered treaty with cops & announced truce & his withdrawal, that would have de escalated. & Returned home to malwa chill out with his moderate setting.
How can you buy into this paranioa that the state wants to finish sikhism?
India has its own sikh regiment, it hires sikh police officers.
Living proof among public - Sant Samaj had no problem, they also encouraged same sikh baptism. Nihungs do & live from delhi agra to maharashtra.
So what an earth went wrong? Ddt had an issue with sects like radaswamis
Their guru was a jatt sikh. He drew doaba jatt sikhs towards him
Thats when you begin to break reality down.
No Ramgharia sikh connected to any Jatha or Mainstream will ever be allowed to say anything wrong about Namdharis or their Guru.
People like to group for whatever reason. It happened then.
We don’t know how many support Khalistan because don’t allow referendum and free campaigning
All you have to do go jhullander, Chandigarh Ludhiana Patiala ask around.
All people want is money in pocket, a home, bit of gold for wife to look pretty, build kitty for family life.
Hor ki?
$ dictates
Either they stay in India, 1 of worlds top 4 performing economies projected numero Uno
Or they back khalistan.$ development comm 🛑. 4 million Sikhs outside Punjab will not give up worlds 4th top economy performer to enter Punjab start again. Punjabi Sikhs will be landlocked, will have difficulty getting visa to go Patna hazur sahib..china India friendship grow 🪴.... Russia big bear central Asian Muslim republics connect with India for trade. They will snub Punjab in favour of bigger market performer. Afghanistan is finished in kashmir....they want $.. Kashmiris themself want to be doctors, Afghans warriors. Pathans got fed up left them..2 don't mix.
Punjab will have Iran & Pakistan to look upto
Pakistan made on top of Ranjit Singh's land
Iran threw it's illegal immigrants @ Punjab 1847+ to baby boom
Punjab will naturally merge into Pakistan for economic survival
It cannot cope with agriculture alone
That will not sit with Malwa majority Sikhs who are culturally economically invested towards India's centre Delhi
Doaba zone more Hindu Dalit khatri, few moderate Muslims, Sikhs & Radaswamis will be uncomfortable with Pakistan
Say a flood occurs in Beas affecting Amritsar Gurdaspur,
You will lean to Lahore for emergency assistance..
Nothing derogatory to say about Pakistan punjab
It could well find new ways
But ultimately kpk want Kabul not Pak
Kalat wants out with Baloch
GB want India
Leaving khalistani majhe aale Sikhs with Potohari Faisalabad Pakistanis
How that sits with damdami taksal their own issue
But there is not going to be doomsday chaos
It's just do you stick with what you know or stick your hand out thinking better option leave but youl get in trouble with no helper
Remember dynamics of sikhism changed
The map pannun produced is isi inspired asking Sikhs to take land in Himachal Delhi hariana
Punjabi is not spoken in Himachal. Hariana devnagri ( barring Ambala few odd places) new Delhi's carved out of jaatland farm territory
Different history
Kharvake decla
Malwa jatt India
Doaba India
Mazhbis majha India
Majhail jatt as they wish
@@danny500k8and punjabi hindus?pathankot is hindu majority in majha
Khalistan ia a social issue
J sara kuj foreign forces e krondia ne fer ahe v das dinde k jdo masse rangar ne beadbi kri c Harmandir sahib di ta odo sukha singh Mehtab singh jina ne ona da sir vad k neje te tang k la gye c Harmandir sahib to bahr ta oh keri foreign force ne kraya c te jdo baba Deep Singh Ji sarovar nu poorn alya nu sodhan lai ardas kri c ta oh keri foreign forces ne kraya c mara ja ahe v dsdyo vadde gyani ji
Okay No Boby will conquer india it will be hindu rashtra i support hindu rastra from Delware Usa
Ravi Rascal
No sikh is a khalistani n no khalistani is a sikh.. sanatan and sikhi is one.. vaheguru 🙌🏽
Conversion has affected punjab so much
Sanatan and Sikhi is not one under Sikhi everything comes. Get your minds cleared on this. Had it not been for hindu caste society divisions india would never have been a slave. Hindus are not trustworthy same as muslims.
No Sikh is sanatani, never ever buy this BS, Sikhi have no relations with Hinduism, Sikhism and Hinduism are two different religions.
All sikhs are khalistanis.
Every Real Sikh Is Khalistani Nothing Wrong In Khalistan In Democracy People are important not land !! Jai Hindi ❤️
@@hrprtY India is not democracy, it is worst Autocracy and police rule.
Amritpal Singh khadur sahib se election jeete hai or simranjeet Singh maan sangrur se check krlo abi ja k ye jhooth bol ra hai k ek hi jgaa se hai
Khalistan zindabad
70% of it is100% Pakistan punjab. 1947 50% tusi India kio ay?
Your ones Pakistan punjab who upon lose battle to Britain Anglo Sikh war
Become good friend...they open up your Punjab Persia border post
Let Persians come in Pakistan Punjab baby boom
Pakistan jatt take Sikh jatt land legally yours..they send u india with Khalistan map to make on Himachal hariana who speak devnagri pahari
Himachalis stopped being Sikh 1870 .. hariana was under bharatpur jat dynasty
What started as equal ratios 1790 jatt Muslims invite jatt Sikhs invade Lahore gate by 1947 Muslim birth rate x 12 13 outnumbered you
You could not technically fight them on flat green farmland
Yes Nehru was wrong
He should put you at round table to ask you what you wanted
But he was also wrong to Hindus in keeping Muslims in India after Hindus got kicked out or vanished in east west Pakistan.
We all got double crossed by leftist Congress party. It was not just you
Neither India nor Hindus wronged Sikhs in 1947
Be man enough to confront what Pakistan done to you in 3 days
Did not happen in history
They had hybrid Persian (1847+ dense) with Pak Punjabi gene
When Britain refused to hear your complaints of Persians entering Punjab 1847+
You should have known there is a bigger engineered filter gameplay beyond your comprehension that took place in a disciplined step by step European militaristic format. Once done..gone.
I support Khalistan in Canada --- full support!
In India you will get Khal-udhed-istan
😂😂😂. Till we are here, there will only be hindustan
Meshiii oooeee😂😂
You better change tha title with decency, "Assassination" thing. She was the former PM of country.
😂😂, we are proud of shaheed bhai satwant singh beant singh. Indira gandhi was a terrorist herself
One who was playing partisan politics for electoral gains.
Petti politics of largest democracy
Yar es bande te bhrosa na kro ahe panjab police ch c ga es to agge kuj sunn di lor e ni a
Kii bhkai Mari jana ae asi panjab ch e a te asi ta chaune a k khalistan Bane aive ahe banda sarya nu e gumrah kr reha ae k panjab ch koi khalistan ni mang reha
Bhai tum kindly hindi me Baat karlo. English hindi maat milao
Trauma Reenactment
apnai rajjaniti ke liye sarkar esse kam karwti rehhati jasse aj ho raha .....
If malwei Sikh Bhindrawale never met radical Pakistan born Sardar kapur Singh
He would stayed among his brother Harcharans military circles,
Kapur Singh ne khm crab Kita yar
Jab hindi aati hai...u both r pagal 🎉🎉🎉
Hindi mein ziada samjh aa jaeygi? Agar aaati tau situation na bigartee.
Please use Hindi
Thanks try suggesting in the language first.
Behind the s
Jo country k against weapon uthaega...usko kya mala daalegi govt???
Hanji..
It's not just country issue
Partition = dirty business
Landmass of Pakistan Punjab belongs to Sikh religion. Iranians walked in, with locals baby boomed, took west Punjab out of Sikh handss away from 1847 to 1947
Pushing 15 million Sikhs 35 million Hindus ( in today's terms, then 2.5 million Sikhs 5 million Hindus)
Sikhs forced to leave there had to because Nehru's settlements
Who was he to them?
India is 1.4 billion overcrowded
Muslim league inherited a huge landmass for 200 million?
For doing nothing more than just having babies, accusing you of blasphemy, making you feel guilty. Then take your land
So now your running helter skelter on reduced land with reduced opportunities
Sikhs blame Hindus
Nehru's nothing to do with Hindu religion
Creation of Pakistan made chaos for India
Rajiv Longowal accord aderessed non of the issues related to Sikhs and Panjab
@achharsinghgill472 what exactly are Sikh issues?
@@danny500k8isi & usa funded canada khalistani 😅
Bhindranwale and indira gandhi were totally responsible for this mess
Jai maa bhawani wahe guru ❤❤❤
To all my sikh brother you are so arrogantly saying kitne hindu mare and before saying this you forget that Sikhism is also a part of Hinduism pls read your gurugranth sahib you will find more than 800 times gurunanak ji mentioned the Ram so before coming to conclusion you need to understand that you are fighting with yourself only ..let me tell you 2 -3rd of Punjab went to Pakistan but non of the khalistani demanded till date khalistan part in that Punjab so it clearly indicate that Pakistan is involved with traitors of Punjab who called themself Sikh otherwise they should have claimed larger part of Punjab which is with Pakistan as khalistan land and now come to Indira Gandhi yes it's total disaster created by her to claim her political position through bhindrawale who went out of his hand but how can you give him free hand and other political and religious wing of Harmandir sahab who allowed them to carry weapon and sized the temple ,now tell me once he entered and fortified the temple with weapon what option they left should we bend on their demand ,come to today scenario if militant capture the Vaishnav Devi temple don't you think that arm forces will not conduct operation to free that so pls try to understand non of the army personal have the intention of hurting the feelings of Sikhs but when temple was captured and they were using that as their safe point then what option they left just let me know