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I know Max tech is an apple Stan but no way he just said their always on display implementation is better than the competition😂 Even mkbhd straight up said it's just dimming the screen and fast less creative than the competition Like common
My 13 Pro Max arrived 4 days ago, 21st in the afternoon, and the battery indicated 75%. I updated it to iOS 16, did a factory reset and started actually using the phone with a 70% charge. I charged it the next night (22nd) right before going to sleep and now I'm at 16%. So it's been 2 and a half days since I charged it. This thing is absolutely insane. I come from a Galaxy S22. There's just absolutely no comparison. I was planning on actually getting a 14 Pro Max, but after seeing that the pill sits lower than the notch, I decided it wasn't for me.
The battery life was the biggest shock to me switching from Android. Honestly, everything else is pretty comparable, but the battery life of the iPhone absolutely destroys my Note 20 Ultra’s battery life.
@@DANIELCHUKWUKERE nope, sd version is only about 5 6 hours of screen on time for me. Even now with my S23 ultra im getting the same not amazing battery life
I just got this phone because it’s was cheap to upgrade (12 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max) and I immediately saw these upgrades that no one else spoke of. The sounds is DRASTICALLY louder, the battery life is better, the camera is amazing, phone is faster and smooth due to upgraded hardware. I can go on and on but it’s pretty nice.
Nobody seems to do this kind of in depth testing like you guys. It's nice to get a normal consumer perspective on these products but since these are supposed "pro" products, it's nice to see how they hold up in extreme situations and not just benchmark scores. Good job.
I’m going to watch the video now, but I agree that we need more in depth reviews. I would even say more niche focused reviews. I personally do professional car photography and working outside at 90+ weather for hours at a time makes the 2k nits brightness 🔅 screen sound cool, but next Monday I’ll be finding out if it suffers from the dimming that the last iPhone 📱 also did which made that screen just barely bright enough due to heating. The new megapixels will help with some interesting shots that we just couldn’t do before due to the low 12 megapixel count of the older phones.
They forgot to mention the minimal focus distance from the Iphone 14. The minimal focus distance from the Iphone 14 is bigger than Iphone 13. In normal language: if you take a close up picture, you need to go backwards with Iphone 14. Otherwise it will not focus.
Amazing video! This is a real review. No reading of the spec sheet which we all as consumers can do and every other UA-camr does. Just pure testing and comparisons. Perfect. Someone on twitter was ranting earlier about how all Tech Reviewers are the same, thats true for everyone except this channel. I got tired of watching different videos about the 14 Pro Max and hearing the same marketing I got from the Apple Event. I watched the event, I dont need an unboxing of the device with the same speech. I need what you guys and gal are doing which is actually testing the new features. Bravo and I cant wait for the future videos on the new iPhones.
Still haven't figured out what's so special about the always on display. It was one of the first things I turned off when I got the 14. I mean the screen turns on if I pick it up or look at it, I don't want anyone else being able to glance at my phone, or have a dim night light while I sleep
It can tell if ur asleep and auto turns it off same if it’s in ur pocket and I found it useful while at work when I’m busy with other stuff I can quickly walk by my phone (have it on the table chilling and I can quickly see the time without having to go pick it up
@@ebubeawachie it's not about the time. But since the phones are at such close proximity to each other, there can be some interference. Its apparently shown since even though the phones were at the same location iphone 14 had lower signal strength.
so happy i've decided to get a 14 Pro Max this year. I love that you guys mention things like speakers, no one else does this and it really bothers me. thanks for this amazing video.
This review was great; without the other “fluff”. It told me things I didn’t know; the speaker improvement hasn’t been mentioned anywhere else. The comparative scores are interesting in that they’ve not changed form previous models. Awesome review!
The IPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max are definitely not worth upgrading from especially camera wise. I have been unpleasantly surprised to see how overly warm some of the sample photos from the 14 Pro Max have been with too much saturation and over sharpening going on. Hopefully future software updates will sort this out. Video is stunning, as is that taken on the 13. Action mode is an aggressive but very useful software upgrade that will filter down to the 13 series hopefully. If Apple don't decide it would cost them money in IPhone 14 upgrade terms and not allow it to filter down to the 13 with the argument that only the chipset in the 14 Pro and Pro Max support it.
@@MatthewRass Practically nobody anymore. I feel like people did it a bit more when top flagship phones cost like 600-700€ but now at this wild price range it doesn’t happen much at all lol
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Let’s keep this on file, and when the next latest models get released, we compare again. Some suspect that, just before the latest devices get released, a software that degrades the older models gets released first, to make the new latest ones stand out as more superior.
Although, sometimes I don’t like the clickbaity titles/thumbnails of Max Tech channel, but I always appreciate that they go that extra mile in their comparisons, reviews and other details which might’ve been missed. Great job, team Max Tech.
@@juleswinnfield1246 they went over much more than just color, size, a quick photo, a quick brightness check, how it feels. It’s more than I’ve seen a lot of other do
"Nobody has showing you yet" is the most used sentence in this video and with right, this is incredible as always guys. As I commented in previous video nobody talked about most of things you talk on your videos. Thanks a lot again, your videos are amazing.
Wow the speakers really impressive. I have the 13 Max and they're already awesome. Huge improvement over 11 Max. So good I don't even prefer the 12.9 iPad for listening to something anymore. Another step up means they must be incredibly good.
@@Nala_1230 yes no question they're better. But the 13 pros are so good I don't bother to get my iPad to listen to stuff like when eating. The experience is absolutely satisfying, which wasn't the case on previous iPhones.
Solid review!!! I'm upgrading from an iPhone XS Max, so I'm excited to experience the quality upgrade in the cameras for photos/videos as well as overall performance and smoothness along with iOS 16.
@@evacomamartin3332 Upgrading from the Xs Max too. I figure I got 4 years out of it so I sort of got my money's worth. Apple says it will be here on Friday, UPS says Tuesday. Hopefully Apple is just under promising!
I'm upgrading from my X this year, and I'm super hyped about those speakers! Even if the CPU/GPU upgrades are only incremental this year, it'll be a HUGE leap from what I have now~ Great video!
LOL you too on the good old iPhone X.. I had been planning to switch since 2019, then last year.. either did not want to get bothered with iOS to Android chat apps messages and data transfers, copy paste shit, or put hold on the switch cause "errmmm yeah this year`s iPhone is nice , but NEXT year this and this will be upgraded..." yeah, always something new coming, but really, next year there is USB-C, a proper milestone and turning point, together with 3nm A17 Bionic (maaaybe better camera zoom too).. 13 Pros would have basically done it for me, great battery and all other bits, but I am just about ok with the X for now .. battery at 78 percent original capacity, but it does alright, I work as a chef so not much time to use it at work haha..
@@shitmir Honestly, I'd hold onto my phone for another year or two if it weren't for the poor performance, battery life, and (the main reason I picked out the 256GB model on the Pro Max) my lack of storage. I had to wipe my phone a few months ago because it ran out of storage and got bricked, it almost happened again yesterday (got stuck in a "boot loop" of sorts, where the phone would crash whenever I tried to unlock it, forcing me to hard restart), but I was thankfully able to access my camera roll through Siri and delete a few videos that way, haha. If you don't need those upgrades, ain't no point in upgrading!
@@oshotz yeah, I have 64gb X, so quite often see I am close to 59gb or so, then I delete some pictures and videos, most definitely I dont need to keep anyway.. the notch is getting a bit old, I am in love with some of this year UDC phones and uninterrupted screen display. but really love the way this 5 year old grandpa works, STILL, probably one of the last iOS updates, esp banking apps and such, regular security and maintenance updates are much appreciated and help my peace of mind...
What reviewers doesnt tell you is that: 1. Dynamic Island is terrible in direct lighting 2. Dynamic Island requires 2 hands to operate. Unless you have a very long thumb. 3. Dynamic Island is designed for portrait use.
I really love this extreme testing-Thank you so much for all the time and efforts you put in creating this video,It’s very interesting to see the differences,I am disappointed that the dimming issue still remains,I was hoping it would get better!.Anyway keep up the great content!.
The excitement in your voices “most UA-camrs”, the high pitch plus facial expressions when you’re reviewing the same phone for almost 5yrs is astonishing. It’s never the same for other products not even when it’s practically new.
best video until now, i’m tired because everyone else was talking about THE SAME THINGS!!! thanks from 🇧🇷 love your videos!! looking forward to camera comparisons
4:51 Also no one has mentioned that the Dynamic Island is LOWER on the display than the iPhone 13 Pro notch. Meaning if you watch alot of fullscreen video on youtube or movies, it will creep inward more and will be more noticeable. Idk why no one has mentioned this.
Ive been patiently waiting to hear from you all. You are so thorough. Congrats on the one million. More success to follow for sure with the detailed work you all do. 💯
Fantastic detailed comparison, there are some clear improvements, though not huge they are there. Happily going on with my 13 Pro Max, but I think people coming from 8 Plus, Xs Max and even 11 Pro Max will see substantial gains when going to 14 Pro Max.
I have an iPhone 13, I’ll be upgrading to 14 Pro Max, as pro max is the mobile I want to have from now on. It’s a good upgrade from regular 13 model but I don’t think there’s any sanity in upgrading from 13 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max unless you just want a new iPhone every year or 2
One thing I hate about my iPhone 12 pro max is the warm tint display. I always preferred cool over warm. To see that back on the 14 sucks, but thankfully there’s a color filter setting to change the color tint.
@@trk4363 go for it, i’m upgrading to the 14 pm from my 3 year old xr which is still in good condition but the battery is at 79% and the display is pretty bad compared to newer phones so i really encourage you to upgrade to the 14 pm unless you want to hold out for the 15 next year!
@@trk4363 if your tickled by the new phone feeling or if your Xr is having problems then for sure! My wife went out and bought me a 13 pro about 6 months ago because my 2 year old dropped my still going strong iPhone X into the patio grey water drain 🤦♂️
Upgrading to a 13 pro or a 14 pro from a 12 pro is definitely an upgrade for the pro motion display. It makes a world of difference for everyday usage. Can’t go back after using it
Quick question Max, did you update the iPhone 14 Pro (6.1 inch) with the 'iOS 16 fix' before running Geekbench 5? When I did this same test on my 14 Pro Max, my multi-score was similar to your 14 Pro but after I did the update, I got a score similiar to your 14 Pro Max.
Amazing, insane, fantastic comparison dude! This is a really complete video! 😎👌🏼 I have to see no more videos about iPhone 14 Pro Max. I have a S22 Ultra but definitely I'll buy this phone in a couple of months
Just bought a brand new 13 pro max one TB in alpine green for 950 UK pounds,warranty with apple to Oct next year and 24 month warranty with Giffgaff network,the 14 pro max one tb is near double the price at 1750 here in the UK and I can't see any real improvement,the improvements between the 12 pro max and 13 pro max were far greater,the larger battery,the pro motion and even the A14-A15 performance improvement was greater than the A15-A16.I think the real game changer will be the iPhone 15 pro max with a CPU that's a real improvement and most likely a five x zoom.
I don’t comment often, but this video is perfect. Very detailed! Keep up the great work! This video definitely deserved a comment and like. Absolutely stellar work!
Hey guys, I've seen it before. When you test cellular data performance it varies too much and isn't a reliable representation of the actual modem performance with such a bad reception. To judge overall modem performance it's best if you test them all in an open place closer to a tower.
Agree, as someone in the telecom business I would take it a step further and say the only way to test is within a mobile operators lab under controlled test conditions with real test equipment and recorded results
@@tabboo5576 You may be right, but as a means for them to roughly test modem performance for the end user, they should use a selected spot with optimal reception. (this way modem software algorithm will play a smaller role)
I ran a storage speed test on my 13 Pro Max 512GB right after seeing this video and my result is almost identical to the 14 Pro Max, I’m not sure how did you get such a low result on your 13 Pro Max, is that 256GB?
This, by far is the best review. Thank you so much bro, I am so glad I just found you. You just gained a huge ass subscriber and I’ll be telling my friends about you. Wow
Their implementation is much better than the competition - regardless of the fact that it draws like 20% battery on standby per 8 hours instead of 5%... Great implementation.
It’s the smallest upgrade from gen to gen since I remember. Specs aside majority of people don’t zoom in don’t crop the pictures - so 48Mbpix camera does little to nothing. Comparing actual pictures side to side there is plenty where look better on 13 pro whereas 14 pro is again only when you zoom in digitally and lose resolution. So to me it’s not better. There is nothing really interesting about this phone to upgrade from 13 pro.
@@whitecrowuk575 much better display, much better speakers, interactive notch design, always on display, better camera, etc. The differences between the last few gens was smaller. Except the 120 Hz every iphone felt the same and now we have a new control system for multitasking applications which can be a killer feature in the future
@@wh1t3608 definitely not smaller - 12 pro to 13 pro was significantly better camera. 14 pro doesn’t bring anything that useful. Majority is software implementations. Improved cinematic sure is nice not that used it at all in past year. For bloggers sure. Bigger sensor same but in typical use no change. Some pictures actually do look worse. Screen brighter - except for 2k boost it’s not really visible - how we perceive brightness is exponentially so 40% brighter we barely can notice. Side effect That will tax battery more so in typical use outside should expect lesser battery now. As shown now it will be bigger area that’s hotter. 13 pro can get hot sometimes but this will be much worse to hold a hot potato. So not sure if I want that. All in all for very tiny number of people some of those features will be worth for majority won’t. I expected something better in camera department like 5x optical zoom for instance - but they made bad 2x (crop) instead. Lack of ideas? Looking at the competition - they don’t sleep and slowly and steadily overpass iPhone in this - already pixel managed in photos it’s just a matter of time when will do in video. They couldn’t even give us usb c
Changed my iPhone X to 13 pro last year, barely feel any difference in daily use. Maybe better battery life since it was new, and better camera. I still remember when I changed my iPhone 4 to 5s, 5s to 6, 6 to x, I just felt tons of happiness and surprise. iPhone is getting boring now. They are just improved on tech numbers every year.
I'd agree with this 👍🏻 The 6S+ is the last iPhone that blew me away. I've done nothing but bleet about the XS Max and my 12 Pro Max especially the damn bulk and weight of the things.
I like that Apple cares about my financial well-being and doesn’t make me want to buy their new phone. Truly inspirational and socially responsible company!
Disappointed dimming/thermal throttling isn’t fixed, but at least it’s improved some. I’m outside all the time for work and I can’t stand the 13 PM dimming within the first 10 minutes. Have a new 14 PM, so any improvement is welcomed. Hope it’s completely fixed with the 15. Great video👍🏻
@Navire his money not yours. Some people can actually afford it without thinking twice. Wish I could. Guess I’m gonna be rocking this 13 Pro Max for quite a bit.
It sucks knowing that iphone 14 pro uses smart hdr 4 used in the 13 pro image processing too which means same over-sharpening and crushed shadows issues.
I was looking forward to the speaker comparison. Impressive that the speaker performance in the 14 is that good, as the speakers on the 13 Pro Max are already really really good.
From a person who transitioned from 13 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max, i can safely say that the improvements are evident. Outdoor brightness is phenomenal. Its very smooth too n camera’s are a big upmove. Always On Display isn’t something great but Dynamic Island is something Apple can definitely take advantage of in gradual updates. Overall its a good upgrade.
@@farouq143 i have 14 Pro Max 256 gb Variant Bro. For me it is more than enough as regular backups on Mac n icloud provides added peace of mind for data protection n honestly 256 is sufficient provided you are not a Big photographer/Videographer. Hope this helps bro.
If they extend the camera bump across the top of the back or along the length of it, like some Androids do, it would stop the wobble and give additional space for more hardware.
4nm is the third iteration on 5nm process from TSMC so it is not a huge leap from what we got on A15. A16 should be on 3nm but Covid happen. I believe the gain we see on larger 14 Pro Max variant are due to how the phone can handle much higher freq while keeping the thermal output identical to its 13 Pro Max counterpart with its slightly better 4nm process. No IPC gain I can see here.
Great video, probably the best comparison video on right now. Btw with the Geekbench results, my 13 pro results are slightly better with the new ios16 update. I managed to get single core: 1745, Multicore: 4864
I have the 13 Pro, and it’s incredibly frustrating how often it overheats and dims to the point that I can barely see the screen. It will even get hot and shut down some functions. I’m sure it doesn’t help that I live in Alabama, where it can get extremely hot, but it should be a lot better. It sounds like the 14 is better but still a big disappointment. This is one of the reasons I’ve considered switch to Samsung. The other thing that is inexcusable at this point, since they love to talk about how powerful the chip is, is the lack of multitasking.
Cool! I am upgrading from 11 & knew I had to come here before choosing 13P or 14P - so thank you! Definitely going ahead with the 14P - why not?! Really cool features & Performance peaks! Thanks you guys! ✨
Might as well,latest and greatest. My wife still has the 11 and refuses to upgrade..She must like having to have her phone plugged into the charger 24/7 🤣
@@topper2142 😂 Tell her I understand! There REALLY is nothing wrong with my phone - my husband is on my back about updating finally. I told him because my phone is in perfect condition I better give the highest trade-in value too! My 11 is elite! LOL!!!
It will be interesting to see how the 14 Pro Max does with screen dimming in sun; a major problem for me. Unfortunately I don’t get mine for about a month. Great 👍 video, and congrats 🍾 on your achievement.
Such a great explanation For seniors to help us decide what I phone we want to purchase and such a great explanation Of features and how they work! Keep up the good work!! Thank You!😊😊
Great comparison! Thanks for covering everything that nobody else gets into. Keep up the good work. The larger “5G antenna” cutout you mentioned is actually only reserved for millimeter wave (FR2) frequencies. I saw that you had the “5G UC” symbol on your test phone. That is signifying T-mobile’s 2.GHz (n41) 5G carrier, which is utilizing the regular six antennas around the phone and not the large “5G antenna”. Your test still shows that the new phone definitely has a better/new modem with a higher peak throughput. I’m interested in you testing the 14 pro’s larger 5G antenna off of a millimeter wave frequency small cell. Verizon’s millimeter wave 28ghz (n261) small cells are prevalent in most major cities now and currently give me a peak speed of up to 3.2gbps at best. I wonder if the new larger mmw antenna will make a difference in higher peak speed or maintaining the mmw signal further out since it’s usually pretty sensitive.
Congrats on your 1 million subs. Keep up the good work. When do you talk about again the Mac studio max version and buying the right screen to it instead of the expensive Studio Apple Screen.
Good video mate , and the one million subs trophy is well deserved given the hard work you all put in. I bought the 14 PM in space black 512 gb a couple,of days ago , I’m still having withdrawal symptoms from my old 12 pro max, I loved that phone , and I have to say , while you can notice some differences between the two , in daily life I’m finding them to be far far more minor than I thought they would be , even the faster refresh screen , i still in my use find my old phone more than acceptable. I don’t have 5G on either of my phones , I think we have fairly decent 4g in Australia , at least in my neck of the woods, Doing the speed test while laying in bed , I got about 470 download on my lowest of three tests and 490 ish on my best , surprisingly only around 27 ish upload , I remember getting about 35 upload on my old old Lg g5 many years ago. The always on display is ok , still not as good as some android always on displays due to the amount of customisation and tinkering you can do on android imo , it is nice to have though. I’m sure I’ll eventually warm to the 14 as time goes on , still room for some improvement is some areas , more zoom would have been nice , ah well . Cheers. One funky little issue I’ve had from day one with both apple phones , is now and again when in landscape and you turn the phone back into portrait orientation, the phones will just refuse point blank to come out of landscape , and I have to resort to all manner of screen swiping and bouncing the phones back and forth until they decide to eventually loosen their grip , I dunno what’s going on there , on the same train of thought , if I have my iphone in the car holder in portrait and orient it in landscape to get at dash controls near the phone , it still drives me to distraction that apple phones refuse to turn the Home Screen to landscape like any android phone would ….. cmon apple you can do better than this😳.
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Bro only u can prove this.
i’m sad u did not notice the same last year !! 120hz SCAM !
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I know Max tech is an apple Stan but no way he just said their always on display implementation is better than the competition😂
Even mkbhd straight up said it's just dimming the screen and fast less creative than the competition
Like common
My 13 Pro Max arrived 4 days ago, 21st in the afternoon, and the battery indicated 75%. I updated it to iOS 16, did a factory reset and started actually using the phone with a 70% charge. I charged it the next night (22nd) right before going to sleep and now I'm at 16%. So it's been 2 and a half days since I charged it. This thing is absolutely insane. I come from a Galaxy S22. There's just absolutely no comparison.
I was planning on actually getting a 14 Pro Max, but after seeing that the pill sits lower than the notch, I decided it wasn't for me.
The battery life was the biggest shock to me switching from Android. Honestly, everything else is pretty comparable, but the battery life of the iPhone absolutely destroys my Note 20 Ultra’s battery life.
@@just_cade That is if you were using the Exynos variant of the Note 20 ultra
@@DANIELCHUKWUKERE nope, sd version is only about 5 6 hours of screen on time for me. Even now with my S23 ultra im getting the same not amazing battery life
I have the 13 promax, for 10 months so far. There’s barely any differences (as usual) so waiting to see what they do for the iPhone 16/17
Same I will be waiting for 15-17
Definitely agree. I’m sticking with my 13 Pro Max as well
Me 2 sticking with my 13 pro max til iphone 16/17
me too with 12 promax instead. I'd really love to have 120hz, but I hope they come with something rly good for the 15
10 months later my 13 pro max is still a beast and feels premium. sticking with mine as well till 15-17
This is why I watch your channel.. you covered so much things consumers need that many top reviewers don't cover
I just got this phone because it’s was cheap to upgrade (12 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max) and I immediately saw these upgrades that no one else spoke of. The sounds is DRASTICALLY louder, the battery life is better, the camera is amazing, phone is faster and smooth due to upgraded hardware. I can go on and on but it’s pretty nice.
99% of improvements you said is already in 13 pro max
@@PSy84lol nah not really
@@PSy84lol nope
Nobody seems to do this kind of in depth testing like you guys. It's nice to get a normal consumer perspective on these products but since these are supposed "pro" products, it's nice to see how they hold up in extreme situations and not just benchmark scores. Good job.
I’m going to watch the video now, but I agree that we need more in depth reviews. I would even say more niche focused reviews. I personally do professional car photography and working outside at 90+ weather for hours at a time makes the 2k nits brightness 🔅 screen sound cool, but next Monday I’ll be finding out if it suffers from the dimming that the last iPhone 📱 also did which made that screen just barely bright enough due to heating.
The new megapixels will help with some interesting shots that we just couldn’t do before due to the low 12 megapixel count of the older phones.
I don’t get it.
Everything apple 🤨
So why are you here
kind of hard to go "in depth" on iphones, they hardly change year after year and people eat it up, sheep
They forgot to mention the minimal focus distance from the Iphone 14. The minimal focus distance from the Iphone 14 is bigger than Iphone 13. In normal language: if you take a close up picture, you need to go backwards with Iphone 14. Otherwise it will not focus.
thanks why is that ? seems bad haha
@@Hshjshshjsj72727 due to camera set up
because the camera sensor is bigger, so it can’t focus from a shorter distance
Amazing video! This is a real review. No reading of the spec sheet which we all as consumers can do and every other UA-camr does. Just pure testing and comparisons. Perfect. Someone on twitter was ranting earlier about how all Tech Reviewers are the same, thats true for everyone except this channel. I got tired of watching different videos about the 14 Pro Max and hearing the same marketing I got from the Apple Event. I watched the event, I dont need an unboxing of the device with the same speech. I need what you guys and gal are doing which is actually testing the new features. Bravo and I cant wait for the future videos on the new iPhones.
Absolutely! The channel stands out.
Max tech its awesome!
This isn’t a real review. What’s wrong with you?
Still haven't figured out what's so special about the always on display. It was one of the first things I turned off when I got the 14. I mean the screen turns on if I pick it up or look at it, I don't want anyone else being able to glance at my phone, or have a dim night light while I sleep
It can tell if ur asleep and auto turns it off same if it’s in ur pocket and I found it useful while at work when I’m busy with other stuff I can quickly walk by my phone (have it on the table chilling and I can quickly see the time without having to go pick it up
People are just lazy 😂 and they like a night light.
I think keeping the two phones together so tightly might have an impact on the thermal test and network speed test. Just something to consider.
Network speed was not tested at the same time. This was repeatedly said.
@@ebubeawachie it's not about the time. But since the phones are at such close proximity to each other, there can be some interference. Its apparently shown since even though the phones were at the same location iphone 14 had lower signal strength.
@@dinuthrathnayake5992 Yes, I feel like the 13 Pro Max blocked some very important 5G stuff of the 14 Pro Max.
Yeah them being this close bothered me
@@dinervc9582 it also affects heat dissipation too.
so happy i've decided to get a 14 Pro Max this year. I love that you guys mention things like speakers, no one else does this and it really bothers me. thanks for this amazing video.
Congrats on 1mil! You guys more than deserve it. That said, I will hang on to my 13 PM til 15. Thank you for all you guys do!
This review was great; without the other “fluff”. It told me things I didn’t know; the speaker improvement hasn’t been mentioned anywhere else. The comparative scores are interesting in that they’ve not changed form previous models. Awesome review!
Good test!! This made me make my mind and I’m gonna stick with my 13 pro. Still a good phone tbh. That dynamic island just didn’t cut it for me.
Agree thank you next let see what the 15 pro has for us and if it’s worth and upgrade
The IPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max are definitely not worth upgrading from especially camera wise. I have been unpleasantly surprised to see how overly warm some of the sample photos from the 14 Pro Max have been with too much saturation and over sharpening going on. Hopefully future software updates will sort this out. Video is stunning, as is that taken on the 13. Action mode is an aggressive but very useful software upgrade that will filter down to the 13 series hopefully. If Apple don't decide it would cost them money in IPhone 14 upgrade terms and not allow it to filter down to the 13 with the argument that only the chipset in the 14 Pro and Pro Max support it.
Or maybe people who upgrade every year are just money spenders? Who actually upgrades every year? The numbers are so low.
@@MatthewRass Practically nobody anymore. I feel like people did it a bit more when top flagship phones cost like 600-700€ but now at this wild price range it doesn’t happen much at all lol
@@MatthewRass well not to mention that carriers like att make it easy to upgrade every year by trading the old phone lol.
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I’m sticking with my 13 Pro Max until next year but love seeing your in depth review every year! The speakers sound amazing!
wait until they come up with in display scanner.
Same here.
Me too. The iphone 15 will be amazing
I will not buy the iphone until notch or dynamic island shit is gone
@@RajKumari-gn1lu problem is mist phones except some other have the dots or notch which i really find it extremely uncomfortable
Let’s keep this on file, and when the next latest models get released, we compare again.
Some suspect that, just before the latest devices get released, a software that degrades the older models gets released first, to make the new latest ones stand out as more superior.
You guys have the best Apple product reviews by far, thank you for all you do.
Although, sometimes I don’t like the clickbaity titles/thumbnails of Max Tech channel, but I always appreciate that they go that extra mile in their comparisons, reviews and other details which might’ve been missed. Great job, team Max Tech.
I love how much more in depth this was!! can't wait for the photo comparisons between the last few models eitherrrrr
How was it in-depth?
That would be a good comparison. Would also like to see samsung s22 ultra vs iPhone 14 pro max, Video and photo comparison.
@@juleswinnfield1246 they went over much more than just color, size, a quick photo, a quick brightness check, how it feels. It’s more than I’ve seen a lot of other do
I have the 13 pro max and am happy with it still. I upgraded from the 12 pro max due to the 120hz display because that’s huge!
"Nobody has showing you yet" is the most used sentence in this video and with right, this is incredible as always guys. As I commented in previous video nobody talked about most of things you talk on your videos. Thanks a lot again, your videos are amazing.
Nice try bot
Wow the speakers really impressive. I have the 13 Max and they're already awesome. Huge improvement over 11 Max. So good I don't even prefer the 12.9 iPad for listening to something anymore.
Another step up means they must be incredibly good.
@@Nala_1230 yes no question they're better. But the 13 pros are so good I don't bother to get my iPad to listen to stuff like when eating. The experience is absolutely satisfying, which wasn't the case on previous iPhones.
Solid review!!! I'm upgrading from an iPhone XS Max, so I'm excited to experience the quality upgrade in the cameras for photos/videos as well as overall performance and smoothness along with iOS 16.
Same but idk if it’s worth upgrading the iPhone XR to 14 pro max lol
Im sure it is!! Its been like 4 years If we can upgrade I think is our time!! I cant wait to get the 14 pro
@@evacomamartin3332 Upgrading from the Xs Max too. I figure I got 4 years out of it so I sort of got my money's worth. Apple says it will be here on Friday, UPS says Tuesday. Hopefully Apple is just under promising!
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@@BookClubDisaster are you getting the pro max version?
I'm upgrading from my X this year, and I'm super hyped about those speakers! Even if the CPU/GPU upgrades are only incremental this year, it'll be a HUGE leap from what I have now~ Great video!
LOL you too on the good old iPhone X.. I had been planning to switch since 2019, then last year.. either did not want to get bothered with iOS to Android chat apps messages and data transfers, copy paste shit, or put hold on the switch cause "errmmm yeah this year`s iPhone is nice , but NEXT year this and this will be upgraded..." yeah, always something new coming, but really, next year there is USB-C, a proper milestone and turning point, together with 3nm A17 Bionic (maaaybe better camera zoom too).. 13 Pros would have basically done it for me, great battery and all other bits, but I am just about ok with the X for now .. battery at 78 percent original capacity, but it does alright, I work as a chef so not much time to use it at work haha..
@@shitmir Honestly, I'd hold onto my phone for another year or two if it weren't for the poor performance, battery life, and (the main reason I picked out the 256GB model on the Pro Max) my lack of storage. I had to wipe my phone a few months ago because it ran out of storage and got bricked, it almost happened again yesterday (got stuck in a "boot loop" of sorts, where the phone would crash whenever I tried to unlock it, forcing me to hard restart), but I was thankfully able to access my camera roll through Siri and delete a few videos that way, haha. If you don't need those upgrades, ain't no point in upgrading!
@@oshotz yeah, I have 64gb X, so quite often see I am close to 59gb or so, then I delete some pictures and videos, most definitely I dont need to keep anyway.. the notch is getting a bit old, I am in love with some of this year UDC phones and uninterrupted screen display. but really love the way this 5 year old grandpa works, STILL, probably one of the last iOS updates, esp banking apps and such, regular security and maintenance updates are much appreciated and help my peace of mind...
What reviewers doesnt tell you is that:
1. Dynamic Island is terrible in direct lighting
2. Dynamic Island requires 2 hands to operate. Unless you have a very long thumb.
3. Dynamic Island is designed for portrait use.
Elite comparison again fellas. Hats off to you. Thanks for the speaker comparison, literally nobody was pointing this out
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Got the 14 pro max yesterday and wow… next year they are going to have to do some good stuff to pry this one out of my hand next iPhone season.
I really love this extreme testing-Thank you so much for all the time and efforts you put in creating this video,It’s very interesting to see the differences,I am disappointed that the dimming issue still remains,I was hoping it would get better!.Anyway keep up the great content!.
You deserve all the success. No one works harder than you guys. Certainly not the lazy print media.
The excitement in your voices “most UA-camrs”, the high pitch plus facial expressions when you’re reviewing the same phone for almost 5yrs is astonishing. It’s never the same for other products not even when it’s practically new.
best video until now, i’m tired because everyone else was talking about THE SAME THINGS!!! thanks from 🇧🇷 love your videos!! looking forward to camera comparisons
Why no body is making comparison for battery life 14 pro max vs 13 pro max ?????
4:51 Also no one has mentioned that the Dynamic Island is LOWER on the display than the iPhone 13 Pro notch. Meaning if you watch alot of fullscreen video on youtube or movies, it will creep inward more and will be more noticeable. Idk why no one has mentioned this.
There has lol
That sliver of screen above the cutout is annoying when playing full screen.
So do I get a 13 pro max or 14 pro max. Honestly I just want the 14PM because of the purple
Ive been patiently waiting to hear from you all. You are so thorough. Congrats on the one million. More success to follow for sure with the detailed work you all do. 💯
Fantastic detailed comparison, there are some clear improvements, though not huge they are there. Happily going on with my 13 Pro Max, but I think people coming from 8 Plus, Xs Max and even 11 Pro Max will see substantial gains when going to 14 Pro Max.
Im happy with my 13 pro max (i upgraded from iphone 8 plus)
@@nicolasbetancourt3682 that is amazing and very significant jump!
@@Tsepz yeah
I have an iPhone 13, I’ll be upgrading to 14 Pro Max, as pro max is the mobile I want to have from now on. It’s a good upgrade from regular 13 model but I don’t think there’s any sanity in upgrading from 13 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max unless you just want a new iPhone every year or 2
The pill isn’t that much of a difference huh?
I knew it! The audio was so much better on 14 Pro that I thought maybe my 13 Pro speakers were dirty or damaged.
Same it sounds very muffled or very static like
first time seeing your vids have to say you go indepth which cover important fact where other UA-camrs miss. great job keep it up
Got my 14 pro today. Good upgrade from my 8 plus
What was your expected receiving date? I noticed some are getting it a lot sooner than they expected
One thing I hate about my iPhone 12 pro max is the warm tint display. I always preferred cool over warm. To see that back on the 14 sucks, but thankfully there’s a color filter setting to change the color tint.
lol i hated the blue tint on the 12 which was warmer on 11... so now with 14 being warm again its a huge win :)
Same the yellow tint is much worse than having pure white it’s a panel lottery though I’m sure there’s some 14pm that are pure white
If you have a 13 pro or even a 12 pro for that matter, it’s a pointless glutinous upgrade
What about if I have an iPhone XR ?
@@trk4363 go for it, i’m upgrading to the 14 pm from my 3 year old xr which is still in good condition but the battery is at 79% and the display is pretty bad compared to newer phones so i really encourage you to upgrade to the 14 pm unless you want to hold out for the 15 next year!
@@trk4363 if your tickled by the new phone feeling or if your Xr is having problems then for sure! My wife went out and bought me a 13 pro about 6 months ago because my 2 year old dropped my still going strong iPhone X into the patio grey water drain 🤦♂️
Upgrading to a 13 pro or a 14 pro from a 12 pro is definitely an upgrade for the pro motion display. It makes a world of difference for everyday usage. Can’t go back after using it
Says the guy that was content with an X.
Quick question Max, did you update the iPhone 14 Pro (6.1 inch) with the 'iOS 16 fix' before running Geekbench 5? When I did this same test on my 14 Pro Max, my multi-score was similar to your 14 Pro but after I did the update, I got a score similiar to your 14 Pro Max.
Let’s hope they get on this topic in the next videos!
Hey Matt,Great to see you here!!!.You are right he probably needs to update with the fix!.
Max please redo geekbench test with latest ios 16.0.1 for both 14pro & 14promax. Really want to know the result. Thanks 😊
I don t think he updated the 14 Pro, if u search on web the regular Pro and the Max have identical results
I have a 14 pro and I’m running iOS 16.0.1
Single core is 1886
Multi core is 5470
Metal score is 15549
Tested using geekbench 5
Amazing, insane, fantastic comparison dude! This is a really complete video! 😎👌🏼 I have to see no more videos about iPhone 14 Pro Max. I have a S22 Ultra but definitely I'll buy this phone in a couple of months
Just bought a brand new 13 pro max one TB in alpine green for 950 UK pounds,warranty with apple to Oct next year and 24 month warranty with Giffgaff network,the 14 pro max one tb is near double the price at 1750 here in the UK and I can't see any real improvement,the improvements between the 12 pro max and 13 pro max were far greater,the larger battery,the pro motion and even the A14-A15 performance improvement was greater than the A15-A16.I think the real game changer will be the iPhone 15 pro max with a CPU that's a real improvement and most likely a five x zoom.
Congrats on the milestones! You guys truly enjoy making this content. Appreciate all the effort.
I really appreciated the extra comparisons that you did that no one else has been doing. Thank you!
HIs geekbench scores were off.
@sheri schweyer I hope you like it
If you have time, can you test the new GPS functionalities of the 14 Pros? It's supposed to be more accurate than the old iPhones.
Good Review Bro , I haven’t seen an in-depth Testing Review like you .
Congrats on a million subs! You guys deserve it. Wishing you continued success… 😀
Really appreciate you putting all of this in one video instead of 10 different ones.
The iPhone 14 pro max speakers are loud as heck a clear difference !!!! I think it’s a better overall phone
Dude shout out to the Nine Lashes shout out that was a very pleasant surprise!!! and great detailed review for everyday use!
I don’t comment often, but this video is perfect. Very detailed! Keep up the great work! This video definitely deserved a comment and like. Absolutely stellar work!
Great review. I was waiting for someone to touch on the speakers quality
Hey guys, I've seen it before. When you test cellular data performance it varies too much and isn't a reliable representation of the actual modem performance with such a bad reception. To judge overall modem performance it's best if you test them all in an open place closer to a tower.
Agree, as someone in the telecom business I would take it a step further and say the only way to test is within a mobile operators lab under controlled test conditions with real test equipment and recorded results
@@tabboo5576 You may be right, but as a means for them to roughly test modem performance for the end user, they should use a selected spot with optimal reception. (this way modem software algorithm will play a smaller role)
Congrats on reaching a million subscribers. You deserve it! I love how thorough your videos are. Thank you!
Not gonna upgrade this year perhaps next year if they made a significant improvements, but now i will pass.
My GOD finally a speaker comparison, thank you, guys!
I ran a storage speed test on my 13 Pro Max 512GB right after seeing this video and my result is almost identical to the 14 Pro Max, I’m not sure how did you get such a low result on your 13 Pro Max, is that 256GB?
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He falsified the data so you buy iphone 14
This, by far is the best review. Thank you so much bro, I am so glad I just found you. You just gained a huge ass subscriber and I’ll be telling my friends about you. Wow
The reason why the power button got lowered and the volume buttons lower is because people would alway screenshot their phones by mistake! 😆
Congrats on 1 MIL SUBS - you guys deserve it !
The only channel that really analyze the iPhones. Thank you!
Absolutely incredible video. All of the information that I was looking for and more in a single video
Now this is the kind of review I was waiting for. Eagerly awaiting the camera tests.
Their implementation is much better than the competition - regardless of the fact that it draws like 20% battery on standby per 8 hours instead of 5%... Great implementation.
My brother finally converted from android with the 14 pro max! And loves it. Also think it’s worth it from 13 pro max to 14 pro max.
Its definitely the biggest upgrade since the jump from iphone 7 to X
And congrats to your brother!
It’s the smallest upgrade from gen to gen since I remember. Specs aside majority of people don’t zoom in don’t crop the pictures - so 48Mbpix camera does little to nothing. Comparing actual pictures side to side there is plenty where look better on 13 pro whereas 14 pro is again only when you zoom in digitally and lose resolution. So to me it’s not better. There is nothing really interesting about this phone to upgrade from 13 pro.
@@whitecrowuk575 much better display, much better speakers, interactive notch design, always on display, better camera, etc. The differences between the last few gens was smaller. Except the 120 Hz every iphone felt the same and now we have a new control system for multitasking applications which can be a killer feature in the future
@@wh1t3608 definitely not smaller - 12 pro to 13 pro was significantly better camera. 14 pro doesn’t bring anything that useful. Majority is software implementations. Improved cinematic sure is nice not that used it at all in past year. For bloggers sure. Bigger sensor same but in typical use no change. Some pictures actually do look worse. Screen brighter - except for 2k boost it’s not really visible - how we perceive brightness is exponentially so 40% brighter we barely can notice. Side effect That will tax battery more so in typical use outside should expect lesser battery now. As shown now it will be bigger area that’s hotter. 13 pro can get hot sometimes but this will be much worse to hold a hot potato. So not sure if I want that. All in all for very tiny number of people some of those features will be worth for majority won’t. I expected something better in camera department like 5x optical zoom for instance - but they made bad 2x (crop) instead. Lack of ideas? Looking at the competition - they don’t sleep and slowly and steadily overpass iPhone in this - already pixel managed in photos it’s just a matter of time when will do in video. They couldn’t even give us usb c
@@wh1t3608 tell me you see clear difference in this comparison: ua-cam.com/video/QCRnwsFi2gY/v-deo.html
Changed my iPhone X to 13 pro last year, barely feel any difference in daily use. Maybe better battery life since it was new, and better camera. I still remember when I changed my iPhone 4 to 5s, 5s to 6, 6 to x, I just felt tons of happiness and surprise. iPhone is getting boring now. They are just improved on tech numbers every year.
I'd agree with this 👍🏻 The 6S+ is the last iPhone that blew me away. I've done nothing but bleet about the XS Max and my 12 Pro Max especially the damn bulk and weight of the things.
We're getting to a point where you don't really see a difference in tech.
Why boring? This is what a smartphone is. What can you expect more? It's true that high-end smartphones already became great since late 2017..
@@mss4056 welcome to android. We have underdisplay camera, foldable display, so much customizations, 10x 100x zoom camera.
The 13pro is so much faster than the X lmao
I'm still quite happy with my 12 Pro Max. Let's see what the 15 Pro Max looks like.
Upgraded from 12 PM to 14PM … Substantial improvement … especially with cam and image stabilization
The only channel that provides real indeph reviews and comparisons. Congrats guys! So informative 👌
I like that Apple cares about my financial well-being and doesn’t make me want to buy their new phone. Truly inspirational and socially responsible company!
Excellent this just confirms sticking to my 13 pro is a good choice I upgraded from an 11 to a 13 pro I’m quite happy with it plus iOS 16!!!!!
Disappointed dimming/thermal throttling isn’t fixed, but at least it’s improved some. I’m outside all the time for work and I can’t stand the 13 PM dimming within the first 10 minutes. Have a new 14 PM, so any improvement is welcomed. Hope it’s completely fixed with the 15. Great video👍🏻
Does Samsung S22 Ultra also dim?
@@asafblasbergvideographer I have no clue. Don’t know anyone that has a S22. Curious though.
@@Mustang-mb7cg S22 Ultra наоборот увеличивает яркость на улице и не тускнеет
@Navire his money not yours. Some people can actually afford it without thinking twice. Wish I could. Guess I’m gonna be rocking this 13 Pro Max for quite a bit.
@Navire I would never. I hate the new colors.
i love in-depth reviews/comparisons. great work!!!
It sucks knowing that iphone 14 pro uses smart hdr 4 used in the 13 pro image processing too which means same over-sharpening and crushed shadows issues.
sad the dimming issue isnt fixed, its one of the most annoying things about my 13 Pro Max, especially coming from Android where this never happens.
I was looking forward to the speaker comparison. Impressive that the speaker performance in the 14 is that good, as the speakers on the 13 Pro Max are already really really good.
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Nobody gives such a deep impression. Good work Dude as always.
I ordered the 14 pro max and am coming from the 13pro max. Excited to test everything out for myself later today haha
update?
From a person who transitioned from 13 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max, i can safely say that the improvements are evident. Outdoor brightness is phenomenal.
Its very smooth too n camera’s are a big upmove.
Always On Display isn’t something great but Dynamic Island is something Apple can definitely take advantage of in gradual updates.
Overall its a good upgrade.
@@imvau3819 Which one would be the better purchase do you think, the 14 pro max with 256gb or the 13 pro max with 1 tb both at the same price?
@@farouq143 Why 1tb? Why would you even go for that?
@@farouq143 i have 14 Pro Max 256 gb Variant Bro.
For me it is more than enough as regular backups on Mac n icloud provides added peace of mind for data protection n honestly 256 is sufficient provided you are not a Big photographer/Videographer.
Hope this helps bro.
Your reviews are in-depth, and always answer the questions I have, that no other reviewers address. Keep up the top-notch work.
Top island work
@@lenzwong Lol
Its not worth upgrading from 13PM to 14PM for me. I am sticking with it. Thank you for the details though
One major question that nobody seems to be addressing is can you turn off all the dynamic island animations altogether ?
If they extend the camera bump across the top of the back or along the length of it, like some Androids do, it would stop the wobble and give additional space for more hardware.
This video is useful to make that purchase decision! Keep up the uniqueness in your videos! Guys
4nm is the third iteration on 5nm process from TSMC so it is not a huge leap from what we got on A15. A16 should be on 3nm but Covid happen. I believe the gain we see on larger 14 Pro Max variant are due to how the phone can handle much higher freq while keeping the thermal output identical to its 13 Pro Max counterpart with its slightly better 4nm process. No IPC gain I can see here.
Love your channel. To the point and easy to follow. Even my grandma can understand you
Great video, probably the best comparison video on right now.
Btw with the Geekbench results, my 13 pro results are slightly better with the new ios16 update. I managed to get single core: 1745, Multicore: 4864
Big Ups on hitting 1M! Let’s get that 2M!
I have the 13 Pro, and it’s incredibly frustrating how often it overheats and dims to the point that I can barely see the screen. It will even get hot and shut down some functions. I’m sure it doesn’t help that I live in Alabama, where it can get extremely hot, but it should be a lot better. It sounds like the 14 is better but still a big disappointment. This is one of the reasons I’ve considered switch to Samsung. The other thing that is inexcusable at this point, since they love to talk about how powerful the chip is, is the lack of multitasking.
This is real Chanel! You are the best! Please continue with this work!
Cool! I am upgrading from 11 & knew I had to come here before choosing 13P or 14P - so thank you! Definitely going ahead with the 14P - why not?! Really cool features & Performance peaks! Thanks you guys! ✨
Might as well,latest and greatest. My wife still has the 11 and refuses to upgrade..She must like having to have her phone plugged into the charger 24/7 🤣
@@topper2142 😂 Tell her I understand! There REALLY is nothing wrong with my phone - my husband is on my back about updating finally. I told him because my phone is in perfect condition I better give the highest trade-in value too! My 11 is elite! LOL!!!
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@@brittmona342My 11 lasts me a day Ive barely been charging the phone only 1-2 a day cause im a heavy user
Congratulations on 1 mil!!🥳
It will be interesting to see how the 14 Pro Max does with screen dimming in sun; a major problem for me. Unfortunately I don’t get mine for about a month. Great 👍 video, and congrats 🍾 on your achievement.
Should have showed brightness comparison on a light themed app too, where there is almost no difference
Love the detailed analysis. Can’t wait for the camera comparisons
Such a great explanation
For seniors to help us decide what I phone we want to purchase and such a great explanation
Of features and how they work! Keep up the good work!!
Thank You!😊😊
Great comparison! Thanks for covering everything that nobody else gets into. Keep up the good work. The larger “5G antenna” cutout you mentioned is actually only reserved for millimeter wave (FR2) frequencies. I saw that you had the “5G UC” symbol on your test phone. That is signifying T-mobile’s 2.GHz (n41) 5G carrier, which is utilizing the regular six antennas around the phone and not the large “5G antenna”. Your test still shows that the new phone definitely has a better/new modem with a higher peak throughput. I’m interested in you testing the 14 pro’s larger 5G antenna off of a millimeter wave frequency small cell. Verizon’s millimeter wave 28ghz (n261) small cells are prevalent in most major cities now and currently give me a peak speed of up to 3.2gbps at best. I wonder if the new larger mmw antenna will make a difference in higher peak speed or maintaining the mmw signal further out since it’s usually pretty sensitive.
Could the new antenna cutout be related to the satellite communication capability?
Congrats on your 1 million subs. Keep up the good work. When do you talk about again the Mac studio max version and buying the right screen to it instead of the expensive Studio Apple Screen.
Good video mate , and the one million subs trophy is well deserved given the hard work you all put in.
I bought the 14 PM in space black 512 gb a couple,of days ago , I’m still having withdrawal symptoms from my old 12 pro max, I loved that phone , and I have to say , while you can notice some differences between the two , in daily life I’m finding them to be far far more minor than I thought they would be , even the faster refresh screen , i still in my use find my old phone more than acceptable.
I don’t have 5G on either of my phones , I think we have fairly decent 4g in Australia , at least in my neck of the woods,
Doing the speed test while laying in bed , I got about 470 download on my lowest of three tests and 490 ish on my best , surprisingly only around 27 ish upload , I remember getting about 35 upload on my old old Lg g5 many years ago.
The always on display is ok , still not as good as some android always on displays due to the amount of customisation and tinkering you can do on android imo , it is nice to have though.
I’m sure I’ll eventually warm to the 14 as time goes on , still room for some improvement is some areas , more zoom would have been nice , ah well .
Cheers.
One funky little issue I’ve had from day one with both apple phones , is now and again when in landscape and you turn the phone back into portrait orientation, the phones will just refuse point blank to come out of landscape , and I have to resort to all manner of screen swiping and bouncing the phones back and forth until they decide to eventually loosen their grip , I dunno what’s going on there , on the same train of thought ,
if I have my iphone in the car holder in portrait and orient it in landscape to get at dash controls near the phone , it still drives me to distraction that apple phones refuse to turn the Home Screen to landscape like any android phone would ….. cmon apple you can do better than this😳.