Drum Teacher Reacts: BILL WARD | Black Sabbath - "Behind the Wall of Sleep" - Live in Paris 1970
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I haven't seen this in the comments yet, Black Sabbath began as a blues band (Jethro Tull too), The Wizard has a lot of these elements, including Ozzie on the harmonica
I was looking for some Black Sabbath drum tracks to jam with when I came across your Sabbath reactions playlist. That lead to me taking a larger look at your channel, and subscribing, but given how much you enjoyed your introduction to Black Sabbath and Bill Ward, I noticed you don't have any reactions to Gar Samuelson the original drummer from Megadeth. I really think you'll enjoy his work of the first 2 Megadeth records as he and guitarist Chris Poland came to thrash metal from a Jazz Fusion background. Those 2 also played together in a band called The New Yorkers, there are a few records from that band on youtube as well, and I think worth a listen for you.
Bill ward is the most underrated drummer ever. He's my favourite as a bassist. So much feel, so much groove and so much power
Absolutely awesome
I love it when educated, accomplished people such as yourself are exposed to the TRUTH of Black Sabbath! 99% of the time they are just blown away by how distinct from their preconceived notions that truth is... and how deep, progressive, experimental and forward-thinking that inital combined energy & spirit of 4 brummie blokes actually was... as you stated, "Legends are legends for a reason"! The original 8 albums from '70-'78 are amazing individually and taken as a body of work. Lots of people shit on the last 2 albums and you can see the arc of the band over time, but I love those albums as much as all the others. They are a revelation in a number of ways. Most of the music they produced is distinct from Iron Man & Paranoid, which is what the uninitiated expect it all to be. Geezer is the fkn man!! Bill and Geezer are simply the best rhythm section from this era and their shared handle on the feel & groove allow both of them to take off and function beyond rhythm. Geezer's bass is a lead instrument that reinforces Tony's guitars and draws counter-point to it. I'm glad to see Sabbath getting their due after 50+ years. They always deserved it!!
fun fact: Brad Wilk from Rage against the machine played drums on Black sabbaths last album
Que tristeza!
Bloody good too is old wilky
And didn't even come close to Bill
He did and did well. But I STILL would have preferred to hear Bill on it 🤷🏻♂️
One of my favorite things about Sabbath is when there’s a solo section it’s not just a guitar solo. EVERYONE solos.
You can see how the song structures, riffs etc being used in all types of metal today. Black Sabbath drew the blueprint!
Many bands of that era had a thing with the sound, songs and over all approach to music that most newer bands could learn from..... *Dynamics!*
You mean not all the sounds should be turned to 11 the entire time?!
@@johnnyb6067 Hehe. Not only that. But the structure of the songs. Perhaps some was due to the "tech" limitations of the time?
Imho it has to do with the music being new and the music industry didn't know what to do and didn't interfere as much in the creative process. They didn't know how it should sound and what the potential listener would like, so anything goes for the time being. Just a thought?
So glad you did this one! Bill is an absolute beast!
Black Sabbath: Creators, innovators and originators. This is a prime example of why they are the GOAT of hard rock and Metal! The first album alone would take up all of Mt. Rushmore
Yup. Really love it
I knew you'd love that crazy jazz part at the end. It's a shame they never kept that part on the album
Bill Ward is one of my all time favorite drummers. Said he is self taught and influenced by Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich when he was first starting out, then Rock n Roll Elvis and whoever in those days. So take all that mix it with the 60's British heavy blues and these distortion guitars and drugs and alcohol - then you have Black Sabbath. Check out Bill on their Sabotage album ... and Vol 4 album some great stuff.
Early Bill Ward is some of the best, ever in Rock music
Can't argue that
Symptom of the Universe is nuts (in the best way). It's the hardest metal song they've recorded and Bill Ward is going all out on that one. Well, they all do of course. One of my fave Black Sabbath tracks for sure.
LOVE IT!
Well, very metal for the first half, anyway. The second half takes a turn down chill street. Or, as a friend of mine says, you’re crushing beers during the first half, then all of a sudden you have to stop and light up a joint.
@@jasoncrook7588 Heh, yeah, I never mentioned the last part (I don't want to spoil anything so I'll leave it at that).
Bill said he struggled so much with that song he bearly left the band
it's like a 3-for-1 deal of a song
i like how Bill wears his spare sticks in his belt like a pirate! never noticed that before
Sabbath were so different… the only band i can think of where they use riffs as a chorus on songs. Bills jazzy influencers on full display on the early albums. This band is from another world… for sure. I first heard them at 5 years old… I’m 45 now and they are every bit as magical today as it was when i was a child. Absolute wonderment
Yes! So many great insights. Many times Tony Iommi and Geezer are hitting a solid riff, on the beat. While Bill Ward is dancing all around it, lots of fills & cymbals. Reversing the "rhythm section" and drums become the lead instrument! Oh, just seeing you did a follow up with Symptom of the Universe!! will dive into that in bit - thank you!
This video, in particular, shows what a great, hard working drummer he was! The whole band is going balls to the wall! This video captures a raw, hungry, and extremes powerful group!
Ozzy himself said they do not consider these as songs they are musical compositions
LOVE IT
I hope you give "Children of The Grave" or "Into The Void" a chance, both from their 1971 album "Master of Reality". Those tunes are more fitting the metal label that people talk about. They did some totally new stuff that certainly was not heard of back then and with that album they further distanced themselves from the usual hard or heavy rock acts of the time.
Nice one man. Please react to the actual album version, very very different to this. I've always said Black Sabbath, the 1st album is real prog metal, full of jazz, blues, what later became doom, loads of different tempos, changes, not following the usual structure of conventional music at that time. Black Sabbath is clearly the greatest debut album of all time. All of them are beasts at what they do. :)
Ah, you got the audio portion to work now on this second upload....yay!!! I really dig that jazzy improv feel of the soloing section too! :)
YES! So good. Totally blown away
The band was, in their words, were speaking about the dark side of life. As Ozzy once said: "we'd heard about San Francisco and wearing flowers in your hair... and we're like what is this?" They grew up in the bombed out ruins of Birmingham .. San Francisco was like imagining a trip to Mars, according to Ozzy.
Tempo changes and sudden turnarounds are common with the band. When the first Sabbath album came out (recorded late '69) the chart toppers at the time were the likes of Tom Jones and the Carpenters. You can imagine the reception. The fans loved it. The live show boots are now everywhere on UA-cam.
Bill hasn't really spoken much about his evolution.. he and Iommi were in a band when they were 16, so he had an early start. Keep it up..
Recommendations:
Supernaut, Into The Void, Iron Man, Warning, Black Sabbath (the song),
I can remember when I bought this on CD as a kid. their first album I mean. You gotta put the whole thing on your headphones sometime when you have an hour or whatever.. Tony iommis stereo guitars all over the place toward the end of the album really sticks with me, such a great sound
The audience was witnessing the birth of one on the most influential bands in history. I wonder if they knew it.
Rewatching all your Sabbath reactions. Great stuff. I've always argued, at heart, they are a blues band with heavy jazz influences. Sabbath and Zeppelin were my first love affairs with music.
You might dig next week on the channel :)
King Crimson, Genesis and Yes, among many others were around in 1970. It was Prog Rock’s heyday. Black Sabbath tho are still one of the finest bands in history…and yes, Bill Ward is a jazz drummer.
As well as Jethro Tull, whom Tony played with while they were between guitarists.
Been a fan of Black Sabbath for over 35 years. The track that does it for me is Spiral Architect
Bill's mum went to him play a lot,his dad only went once,he said,"he didn't want to see his son beat himself up again",he played that hard
Stilll my favourite band - 50 years after I first heard them in 1972
I suggest Snowblind, Children of the grave, Fairies Wear Boots, National Acrobat, Under the Sun and Into the Void.
This concert is my favorite live footage from rock music. It is history on film
Yup don't get any better. Time capsule
Yes we’re about in the 70s Bill Bruford another talented Jazz drummer
I grew up in the 70s and seen sabbath in 78 technical extasy awsome ozzy fired in 79
Wow. How was the show?
@@AndrewRooneyDrums incredible saw ozzy in 1981 blizzard of ozz
That's Black Sabbath man. Imo, the best ever.
Hard to argue
Masters of the Universe is incredible we would sit listen to it on purple microdot? over and over for hours the sound of Bill Ward pounding those drums with the Thunder of Geezer Butler Black Sabbath had an eerie creepy vibe that you can feel in your soul
Yup what a rhythm section!
"We'd like to do a number now off our first LP, it's a number entitled Behind The Wall of Sleep."
Happy Monday, my friend Andrew !!! BLACK SABBATH week begins. What a perfect song to begin with to get some Bill Ward and Geezer Butler grooves... It's so cool to see your smile as you discover Sabbath.
Hope you can join the live chat today Michael
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Thanks brother ! I did and it was fun.
Hi Andrew, first saw Sabbath in Manchester England in 1971 and they blew me away then. Last saw them in 2017 again Manchester, ust a shame Bill was not on drums (By the way its Tony not Tommy Iommi. A great watch Andrew, looking forward to seeing more
To see them in their prime must’ve been absolutely transcendent
Andrew, I really love watching your channel. Rock On!!!!
This original lineup of the band went through such an evolution in their brief eight or nine year career. They went from recording albums at record pace (like you said, just 12 hours for their debut), to full on productions that drove them crazy in the studios. They put out five albums between 1970-73. FIVE! And the fifth one has some of my personal favorite material on it!
Mikael Akerfeldt, of Opeth, absolutely loves Black Sabbath's "Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath" album, and for good reason. Its so weird and prog and everything great about Sabbath, when they were at their most experimental in the studio.
Their first two albums were pretty much already written when they went into the studio to record them. They just had to fine tune those songs. After that, they had to start from scratch, essentially.
And I gotta add, your breakdowns of these tunes from Sabbath are pretty eye-opening to me. You're explaining in words I've never put together why I love this band so much.
Thanks again for all your content, Andrew!
I w heard it said SBS was their best album. But it seems it’s not covered As much or discussed on UA-cam as much as the others
Before "Heavy Metal" became the universal term for this kind of music, bands like Sabbath were described variously as "Downer Rock" and "Atomic Blues". I wish the latter term had stuck.
Anyway, a great reaction to one of Sabbath's most incredible and overlooked songs.
ATOMIC BLUES!
Love it David
Symptom of the Universe and Sweet Leaf
Black Sabbath Week - what's not to like
YAY
Amen!
When I clicked on this video, 9:38 was what I was waiting for.
Welcome to the Sabbath club. Better late than never.
Sabbath week!!!! Thank you
My first concert was Black Sabbath in 83’, Born Again Tour with Quiet Riot opening!🤘
oh man, I find it so charming that you uploaded an accident first, I watched for like 2 minutes before I refreshed & saw that you took it down! also YES I absolutely hear their influence on RATM 🔥🔥🔥
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more!
I'm editing at light speed in between family, teaching, gigging LOL
I hear Black Sabbath's influence in soooo many bands from the 70'ies all the way to the current stuff, some bands more than others. It's also common that later hard rock/metal bands are influenced by older bands that themselves were influenced by Black Sabbath.
Found a jewel for you. Name of video is "deep purple - the mule (best drum solo ever!) Live in Copenhagen 1972) hd "
Master of Reality is a very heavy album
I love these live videos but they do a big disservice to the rhythm section. One of the greatest things about Sabbath is the interplay between bass and drums, and you can barely hear the bass on these old clips. Please go back and listen to the studio versions of the songs you've seen live- it will add a whole new amazing layer.
Youre in for a treat xhecking out all the original Sabbath tracks . Fantastic reactions .
I’ll get to them Andy! 🤘
@@AndrewRooneyDrums you may find this interesting . Its a docu video about Sabbath making " Master of Reality " . Take care Bud .
ua-cam.com/video/A6GTf6rOepQ/v-deo.html
I'm loving this Sabbath week. Your reactions are like mine discovering a whole new world
Thanks again for fine review! I can’t enough of Bill’s vicious percussive attack on his kit!
The baddest garage band on the planet! Meant with the upmost respect.
I hear ya!
I say things like that all the time and people think it's a diss
Let me try to make it one sentence. About what I thought, when I found them in 1975:
"All this in one song?" And this goes for many songs.
Exactly Peter!!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Thank you! (Always makes me happy to get such a reaction on what I say. Beeing a non-native speaker.) May I ask you to react on a drummer (metal), playing with a whole orchestra? (Warning: political !) Symphonic metal band IGNEA from the Ukraine, playing this song back in 2015.
Alga:
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"Alga" can be translated to: "forward!", as far as I know. I'm german. We're (most of us) just angry and scared about the currently raging war.
Hard rock has always been political. So I think it's only fair.
you need to hear the studio version of the warning
I highly respect your opinions you’re an excellent drummer yourself I can tell
Thanks Leo! Check out my Sabbath covers :)
I look back now and think that the records they made getting to SABOTAGE are just as important as SABOTAGE itself... my (and a lot of others) fave SABBATH album. For more old stuff... have you seen them perform BLUE SUEDE SHOES?!
Prog stuff from the same time? Man, if you haven't checked out Carl Palmer and the works of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, you are missing out on the great origins of prog rock! He's very similar to Bill Ward, super jazzy. Such a FUN guy to listen to.
Since ELP formed in April 1970, they formed AFTER Black Sabbath, King Crimson, Yes, Genesis and the Canterbury bands like Egg, the “great origins of Prog rock” had already happened.
@@wylepeyote splitting hairs between late 69 and early 70... it's the same time period man lol. Also, nothing against the likes of Phil Collins or Bill Bruford, etc. I just think Carl Palmer is the better drummer!
late 60s early 70s was the heyday of prog. seemed like black sabbath's approach to their music is heavy metal with a prog formula with just so many transitions in a song.
My favorite off of the debut.
Glad to see you've discovered the Sab
Me too Jack
Jazz love it each instrument plays diffrent notes and combined it's amazing John Bonham same mitch Mitchell ginger baker Keith moon
There ya go !
Peace and love brother 👍🏻☮❤
Got there in the end.
I'm amazed this hasn't happened more considering how fast I have to edit LOL
Two super proggy bands from the same time period are; Yes (bill bruford) and Mahavishnu Orchestra (billy Cobham)...check out "then" by yes and "one word" by Mahavishnu.
As Arnold Swartzenneger would say "DO IT! DO IT NOW!"
Thanks Gregory. If Arnie is telling me I gotta do it... I better
*Ward 4 Prez!*
Edit: "If you want our remorse? Change your body to a corpse, yeah!" Brilliant!
LOVE IT
Sleeping wall of remorse
Turns your body to a corpse.
@@21Piloteer Yeah, I know it's not 100% definitive. but listen to the studio version at 1m 57s it sounds like what I said (w/o the "Yeah" from this live version)
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I like your cover of Warpigs in the background whilst you're talking at the end of this reaction 👍
GOOD EARS!
Thanks for breaking it down this way. I just always assumed his drum kit owed him money! 😬😬
HAHA
Have a listen to wheels of confusion such a epic song
Can't wait Matthew!
Awesome it’s a song I love to play along to but sadly only on practice pad as I have no drums to play
In 1972 on I was the only kid age 13 at school that new about Black Sabbath had their albums and saw them in 1973.No one i knew liked or even understood their music specially by anybody near my age group.
Not bad mouthing Sabbath in Any way. It just sounds like a killer band practice jam session.. For me its the raw simplicity No BIG money HD Green Screen technology of Any kind going into this live performance.... Just Raw & Uncut!
I saw on your scrolling post “one of these days” live by Pink Floyd, but it has to be LIVE AT POMPEII
I'll get there!
Hah! He's just scratching the surface of classic Sabbath.
I bet this gets stretched into Black Sabbath Month!
We get to see Bill in his favorite red and black polka dot shit. You see it in many live Sabbath recordings. Ozzy said Bill was a dirty man, he had 2 suitcases, 1 for dirty clothes, 1 for dirtier clothes.
Keep up the great content Stay Happy and Healthy
Voted England's most untidy drummer.
Andy mate, this is going to be the best week of your life 😂👍❤️
"It's a collection of ideas..." Vague, but still that might be one of the most accurate descriptions of Black Sabbath's music I've ever heard for the very fact that it's vague. It was, indeed, exactly that. Anyway, wow this was a really fun watch especially when the final section hit.
Loving it Will. Can't wait to hear/see more
Wish I'd seen this a week ago. I hope you heard The Wizard. Some of Ward's best playing.
I have 10 all time great dummers Bill ward is one of those 10
I hear ya Michael!
Jazz Metal Fusion
You are right about the the band not following the rules Doing the solo at the end of a song They're so unique no rules being strongly influenced from their jazz/Blues roots On the song Faires wear boots jazz influence galore with the heavy riffs Iommi the riff Master and the tight rhythm section of Geezer and Bill Sabbath Forever
Thank you for coming out from under that fuckin rock.
BAHAHA
If you listen to the studio version of this the swing from Bill is so good.
He says Ozzy was one of the few people who could sing with the lack of time signature. Oz didn't understand the time signatures and just sang along to the melody he heard.
When you see ozzy now it's sad to see what a powerhouse vocalist he was.
the 1st 2 releases are essentially album long songs...
like the wall ad DSOTM...
you kinda have to listen to it as a whole to get the message...
Best band ever
I'm here for Sab week
YES!
I really like how Bill hates his drum set :D just watch his expression at 5:35 ;)
HAHA!
Got to listen to early 70s Genesis. “Firth Of Fifth” from selling England by the pound.
Hello again Andrew. Thanks for fixing.
You might want to try The Wizard (1st album) for some early Bill mayhem - by the time of the 3rd album he is off the chain.
That’s why there still the best and ever..
DNO.
Find a live version of Symptom of the Universe. Not many drum camera angles available, but Bill tears that track apart.
King Crimson played prog around this time. 21 century schizoid man was released in 1969.
What prog stuff was around in 1970? Pink Floyd, Genesis, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, King Crimson, Yes, Jethro Tull, VdG Generator, to many to name...
You hit the nail on the head they kicked off grunge particularly with Master of Reality and Vol4.
YES NEIL!
Funniest story I ever heard about Bill Ward was back in the early days of Sabbath (during the full-on consumption times) when Bill was so gone he didn't notice his beard had caught fire; apparently he casually inhaled the fumes and said "Not a bad smoke, that" and carried on like nothing happened. On a sadder note, Terrence "Geezer" Butler has announced his retirement from the music biz (though he'll probably still record songs).
It’s TONY Iommi!!!
Yes. My bad
@@AndrewRooneyDrums love your channel. Had to poke a little though.
Love the channel mate and awesome black Sabbath reaction. Have a look at a Australia band that has two bass players and a drummer call the omnific and check drum play through called ne plus ultra. Cheers again mate for the up loads.
Try Morgan Rose from Sevendust!
Yes I need to get to him Tyler
This is what sleepless nights and personal injuries in Birmingham factories results in.
My first concert was Black Sabbath in 2001 my moms first concert was Black Sabbath in 1973 lol small world
What year were you born in?
Just asking!
😉😘
@@markkavanagh7377 1983