Ice King and Simon are two separate personalities or they might as well be. Ice King himself is honestly a pitiful loser, Simon Petrikov is the wholesome one.
@@thomasraines1396 actually the show implies that ice king is still simon with his brain screwed. I even heard he's an allegory of dementia, what with being old, insane, losing his memories and calling people wrong names(gunter)
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Everyone else would say "she only looks like 13 years old, she's still a centuries old entity", but Ice King didn't even think about that at all. Huge respect for Simon!
@@malachiroberts6198 To be fair 60 years is nothing when the characters are immortal and both mentally adults. The reason it would have been creepy for 13 year old PB to get with Ice King was because she didn't just have the body of a child, she also had the mind of a child.
@@limblesshero Whoa, I've been doing it since i became 18 years old. It's hard to avoid my younger sister who i live with, tho, but I'm keeping on it. 😎👍🏻
One thing I like about this episode is that Ice King forcefully kidnaps and imprisons most of the people in that room yet they're perfectly chill with him being in the hospital too
@@awesomepro2076 Finn (and probably PB, unless Marcy talked about him, but we know she's not good with talking about her feelings) wouldn't have known about Simon at this point.
I believe it's like Bowser kidnapping peach every once in a while but still getting invited to board game night and to go karting, playing tenis and soccer for example
I always thought of him as that one guy in police tv shows that's like "oh Teddy? Yeah he's been in jail like a docen times because he just keeps stealing pizzas from Domino's, but he's a good guy".
@@Ms.FortuneTeller No, probably after the war happend he got a fixation thing for Betty and tried to fill that hole with princesses without knowing it... at least that's what I belive.
@@arcdolphin8065 1. "also it is shown that her new body does affect her mental state" need to read that that again. Digest it. Slowly comprehend it. 2. I mean...shes basically made boyfriends that are technically also her children. Among many other things. so...questioning her morals over this is funny.
@@jakobinobles3263 if you think about it, PB is aware that she's still almost thousands of yrs old and she's flirting with a legit 13 yr old who knows nothing about romance and is still innocent. Hehe boi. The banana guards have someone else to capture
@Dancing Israeli They said mature thoughts (Aka 18+ things). Not actual thinking. A child/minor is unable to consent and are in a position that makes them extremely vulnerable. They can be easily manipulated. They are gullible. An adult knows so much more and can stop themselves from being forced into a situation they'd rather not be in. Again, a child/minor can be manipulated to do things they don't know about or don't want to do. ...Which makes them unable to handle mature thought. I don't understand how one can really think of the comment insinuating something else.
I WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE NOONE ELSE KNOWS! the reason why ice king kidnaps princesses and are wanting them as pals, and wives, are because betty, simons girlfriend Simon called her his “princess” (see where I’m going with this?) and the only thing he remembers while transforming into an ice elemental, was him searching for his “princess” so that’s why he SEARCHES FOR HIS “PRINCESS” and second of all, she isn’t a princess anymore! Lemongrab is the new princess! Because she was too young, even though she is still HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, all ice king knows are, “are they a princess” and “do they like Finn and jake” because he gets jealous, and by only ONE of those things checked off, he heads to a princesses castle, to search for his Betty! Or “princess” and the reason why I say all of this is because the main reason why he keeps them against their will, is because he doesn’t wanna look for them again, he doesn’t want them to run away, like betty, and that why he is so protective over the princesses, and why he does what he does! REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING IT AGAIN
@@itskaiks3469 errrr mate this excess was not needed and some incorrect, Simon isn’t an ice elelemental. Elementals are one spirit whom reincarnate and the other woman was the ice elemental. Simon was just a man who tragically fell to the crowns power. Secondly, Lemongrab is a dude with his own plot separate from Ice King. I don’t think anyone asked for this information dump as it wasn’t needed but go off I guess?
@@marvinsalmeron585 Simon is a pseudo ice elemental, the crown is basically mimicking the ice elemental evergreen, he’s just as powerful as most of the ice elementals.
He said, "I only kidnap adults," and dipped. All jokes aside, I think this is one of those rare moments where we can see a remnant of Simon in there. Because as crazy as he is (especially in regards to Bubblegum), he had enough sense to not go after an underage girl. Now that I think about it, I don't think he's ever gone after Flame Princess or any of the other underage girls. Even in his deranged state he still understood that preying on children was wrong. He didn't even try to groom them.
Is that the majority of discord though? Cause to me it just sounds like an extremely overused stereotype that just sounds severely exaggerated to the point of losing its original charms in the joke.
I like to imagine that's THE last shred of his sanity and humanity right there. That fatherly instinct/love he had for Marcy held on and manifested as the utmost standard: Age matters.
Age is unusual in Adventure Time, Ice King is over a thousand and Marceline is right behind him but their chronological age is worlds apart (literally) due to magic. Hudson Abbadeer is older that time itself and it would be weird if he and Bubblegum got together (she's 961 btw)
Well I think PB being "13" is less about her age in numbers and more about her body's physical and mental age. She clearly has the body of a child and her mental maturity also appeared to be reduced to that of a child. So it definitely would have been wrong for Ice King to be interested in her because she had the mind and body of a 13 year old child, despite her actual age.
@@malachiroberts6198 dude, if you were a baby with the age you have now, you would think like a baby, if you had a body of a 13 year old, you would act and think like a child, it's not like PB's brain were 980 years old too
@@daahorse1652 Well, they all can't be winners. Sometimes you just have to step in a puddle while crossing a riverbed. Thank goodness Ice King is a rock in said riverbed.
I’m glad they went back on this choice in the next episode, it just wouldn’t have really worked in the long run. Finn getting over his crush on PB was one of the first steps of him actually growing up and maturing
@@InsulinRunner They actually made it so they were able to get her back to her normal age by giving her more candy materials in the very next episode. She doesn’t age faster, if anything, it’s the opposite, where she barely ages and is actually centuries to thousands of years old
@@InsulinRunner… no, they didn’t? The plot line of the next episode was that Lemongrab took over the Candy Kingdom, as Princess Bubblegum was too young. After being thrown in the dungeon, Bubblegum was given pieces of other candy citizens in order to increase her mass to become “older”.
@@mogilevball3221 that’s now converted into a naive child, imagine her whole body being a brain, since most of her body is gone so is her experiences and matured emotions
I WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE NOONE ELSE KNOWS! the reason why ice king kidnaps princesses and are wanting them as pals, and wives, are because betty, simons girlfriend Simon called her his “princess” (see where I’m going with this?) and the only thing he remembers while transforming into an ice elemental, was him searching for his “princess” so that’s why he SEARCHES FOR HIS “PRINCESS” and second of all, she isn’t a princess anymore! Lemongrab is the new princess! Because she was too young, even though she is still HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, all ice king knows are, “are they a princess” and “do they like Finn and jake” because he gets jealous, and by only ONE of those things checked off, he heads to a princesses castle, to search for his Betty! Or “princess” and the reason why I say all of this is because the main reason why he keeps them against their will, is because he doesn’t wanna look for them again, he doesn’t want them to run away, like betty, and that why he is so protective over the princesses, and why he does what he does! REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING IT AGAIN
To be fair, he never really liked PB personally. Based off of his backstory, we know that "Betty" was his "Princess". He latched onto this idea, his last memory of the person he loves being a Princess to him. So, to try and fill that void, he kidnaps princesses in hopes that he'll find *his* Princess. The most he does is make them listen to his stories. He never asks for payment, hurts them(purposefully) or sexually abuses them. Hell, if they weren't there against their will, it kinda seems like he treats them like friends. So when he sees PB as a kid, there's no way he's gonna continue pursuing that.
There was that one episode Ice King forced a princess to marry him with a cursed ice ring. He ended up marrying Jake at the end. But I feel like Ice King gradually began mellowing out and tried to socialize with those around him better
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I WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE NOONE ELSE KNOWS! the reason why ice king kidnaps princesses and are wanting them as pals, and wives, are because betty, simons girlfriend Simon called her his “princess” (see where I’m going with this?) and the only thing he remembers while transforming into an ice elemental, was him searching for his “princess” so that’s why he SEARCHES FOR HIS “PRINCESS” and second of all, she isn’t a princess anymore! Lemongrab is the new princess! Because she was too young, even though she is still HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, all ice king knows are, “are they a princess” and “do they like Finn and jake” because he gets jealous, and by only ONE of those things checked off, he heads to a princesses castle, to search for his Betty! Or “princess” and the reason why I say all of this is because the main reason why he keeps them against their will, is because he doesn’t wanna look for them again, he doesn’t want them to run away, like betty, and that why he is so protective over the princesses, and why he does what he does! REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING IT AGAIN
You know, for years I questioned how someone could possibly reverse in age as a medical treatment before realising that this show has a shapeshifting dog, talking candy, time warping creatures and a literal reality destroying eldritch entity.
Some animals like siphonophores do actually heal themselves by reverting to a younger version and then growing up again, they're supposed to be functionally mortal
@LuznoLindo there are a lot of weirdos lurking out there, especially online. Including ones I've had the displeasure of interacting with. But there are also cool people, too, so it depends on how you look at it, lol.
This is how they teach children morals and that pedophilia isn’t okay even though they don’t use the work or concept directly. Children’s shows are amazing lol and this shows that AT was a quality one.
@@marialemonskies265That's how this show got away with a lot of things, like the implications of the Lich skinning Billy alive. It's all gotta be subtle yet noticeable
@@KiiBonI always forget that fact and it's like a punch to the face with how jarring it is when I remember that that is entirely 100% canon that the lich actually very much skinned Billy, most likely alive simply just for the sick pleasure of it. I see the lich as someone who acts extremely pragmatic, but very clear from the way he goes about his plans is extremely petty and vengeful
Oh shut up already it’s not bad enough where every other comment should say this. Just take bill burrs comedy sketch on pedophiles and that pretty much sums up my whole viewpoint.
This is Ice King - Has friends in forms of penguins - Saved the world by using his crown - Loves each of his penguins equally - Doesn’t try to kidnap PB when she is 13 - Doesn’t loophole - Average Evil Doer Be like Ice King EDIT: Why did a fight start for a while in my replies? The internet will really do anything to have a chance at an argument.
@@averageduckenjoyerthefinal Except Tokusatsu weebs. They’re only fandom that actually touches grass via martial arts membership which they did it to support their favorite suit actor and/or actress. Ironically, Anime weebs hate the Tokusatsu medium for being too American and too woke, ignoring its 80 years of history and being acknowledged by the Japanese as the successor to Kabuki Theatre movement.
@@masterskywalker6981 She still has an 8-year-old body which means no. Most of the time, sexual lust is triggered by appearance and ever since she has an 8-year-old body it still counts as paedophilia.
A man kept alive and driven insane for over a thousand years by a powerful magic crown that's over a millenia old. And he still has better standards than people today
Does this one moral line really make him a good person, though? He’s kidnapped lots of women, and held them against their will multiple times. Plus that time he stole their body parts, to craft his perfect woman. Ok so he’s not a pedophile. He’s still a dangerous creep, with a (sometimes) very loose grip on reality.
I like how age stopped the Ice King but Tree Trunks (under the influence of a bad apple) turned Finn into a crystal against his will and wanted to marry him.
Truuueeee!!! Kinda a double standard and sends a message that it’s less of an issue if females do it, that sucks :/ Dang you just made me realize it too
I think it’s more that Tree Trunks wasn’t right in the head, I’m pretty sure she became a lot more sane after being freed. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
That plot was really weird. I get that she was under the influence of a cursed apple and had her sense of reasoning warped...but it was still unsettling even as a kid.
Even after having his body and soul ravaged by an ancient evil of unfathomable power for thousands of years, Simon was, at the worst, just a ill, confused old man who still had standards. Considering the crown almost immediately reduced an alternate version of Finn to a mad evil wizard that froze everyone in sight, Simon’s an absolute beast for retaining as much of his sense of self as he did.
@@retro3188 can you explain why that type of CA has 100 victims on average whereas the straight ones have a few on avg? Can you explain why they are more open to beastiality? It's because they love the thrill of pushing limits. The number of their victims mimicks the number of their partners. They have 500 partners in a year whereas straights have a handful a year. Do you understand what this does to their behinds? And how diseases spread widly in that community? Are you ignorant of the term "bugchasing"? They want HIV and the ones who have it are called "gift givers". You are out of touch or malicious
The ice king/ simon is probably one of the saddest characters in adventure time. Also think about this: simon used to refer to betty (his fiance) as "princess" and what does ice king do? Kidnap princesses to decide on which one to marry. Parts of simon are in there, but it seems ice king is still as much his own being as simon.
it’s the saddest thing realizing that ice king’s obsession with princesses is because he called betty his princess and he just wants his princess betty back
The crown had done stuff wrong to Simon that messed with him, his sanity, and his life. You really tend to sympathize with him now after learning of Simon’s (Ice King’s) origins. Also, respect that he’s not THAT type of guy
A deranged creep forced to insanity by a magical crown with no sense of his true self left, but still has enough understanding in him to stay away from children. I love the way Simon is written even before the show revealed who he was without the crown.
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Emphasis on King for that Simon
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5 stages of ice king grief
1. acceptance
2. acceptance
3. acceptance
4. acceptance
5. acceptance
😂
XD
0. aw dangit
6. Repeat
Now let's do Simon's.
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1. anger
2. depression
"Damn it Finn, Im a serial sex offender not a pedophile!"
This kills me😭😭
@mrbeastt how dare you try to teach me about iowa
This is beutaful.
Technically I think he's only guilty of kidnapping.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory True, but it's a joke.
Even Ice King has morals.
If only uncle was more like him
@@rickitickitavi860i apologize.
@@rickitickitavi860 HOLD UP
@@rickitickitavi860 wait a godarn second
We already knew that. Remember the nice king episode?
"Awh dang it"
There was no denial, no anger, no bargaining, no depression. Just absolute acceptance.
That and some mild disappointment
Probably a tiny bit of anger (or I guess frustration), but nothing he can do, so he just leaves.
It's not like he had her to begin with.
*Nobody knows ice king were the most wholesome character until they saw his backstory*
While there is some wholesomeness to what his true self turned out to be, his backstory also added a lot of darkness and tragedy to his character.
@@madnightguard6296 two birds hit with one stone with marcelline's backstory too
His older self is wholesome, his cursed version isn't
Ice King and Simon are two separate personalities or they might as well be. Ice King himself is honestly a pitiful loser, Simon Petrikov is the wholesome one.
@@thomasraines1396 actually the show implies that ice king is still simon with his brain screwed. I even heard he's an allegory of dementia, what with being old, insane, losing his memories and calling people wrong names(gunter)
he may be a serial kidnapper, but he's no discord moderator. respect.
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@@AxxLAfriku bruh, it's so common to see your shitty replies in comment sections that it isn't even annoying anymore, it's just sad
Or a call me carson fan
I love this comment
Doctor: "She's 13 now"
Ice King: "Understandable. Have a nice day"
@Red Cyndaquil for her BIRTHDAY
👍
@Nick West go back to the medieval ages when there WAS punchlines lol
@Nick West the punchline is that there is no punchline
@Nick West you are as old as a dinosaur that has been on earth for 1 million years
Everyone else would say "she only looks like 13 years old, she's still a centuries old entity", but Ice King didn't even think about that at all. Huge respect for Simon!
He ain't no lolicon
anime community got something to learn from him, hu
@@RWSfan2024 tbf she is 13. Like, her mind and body is of a child so I guess, by their logic, no? I think.
Cause even his insane ass knows that’s nothing more than an excuse.
@@kritzkrieg14 if you watch the episode you can see she still acts relatively the same as usual, so she only LOOKS like a child.
Not even Ice King pulls the "Well she's really a 1000 year old sentient gumwad" card, respect
But she is.
...
But you didn’t
I should have left you on the street where I found you
But did he know that?
She's not 1000, she's 961 and he's 1,036 that's nearly 60 year gap! Even Marcy is 30+ years older than PB.
@@malachiroberts6198 To be fair 60 years is nothing when the characters are immortal and both mentally adults. The reason it would have been creepy for 13 year old PB to get with Ice King was because she didn't just have the body of a child, she also had the mind of a child.
He is a creepy old man, but not THAT kind of creepy old man, respect
He has the "hide your wives" but not the "hide your children" kind of thing
@@oliveoil3075 yeah, pretty much
@@oliveoil3075 he's the opposite of the creppy uncle
Professionals have standards: Be educated, be efficient, and have a plan to avoid every 13 year old girl you meet.
@@limblesshero Whoa, I've been doing it since i became 18 years old.
It's hard to avoid my younger sister who i live with, tho, but I'm keeping on it.
😎👍🏻
One thing I like about this episode is that Ice King forcefully kidnaps and imprisons most of the people in that room yet they're perfectly chill with him being in the hospital too
Just a theory but I think they know about ice king past from Princess bubblegum or finn.
He did helped with the Lich, kinda. They were probably too preoccupied with saving PB than worry about Ice King.
@@awesomepro2076 Finn (and probably PB, unless Marcy talked about him, but we know she's not good with talking about her feelings) wouldn't have known about Simon at this point.
I believe it's like Bowser kidnapping peach every once in a while but still getting invited to board game night and to go karting, playing tenis and soccer for example
I always thought of him as that one guy in police tv shows that's like "oh Teddy? Yeah he's been in jail like a docen times because he just keeps stealing pizzas from Domino's, but he's a good guy".
Simon doesn’t traumatize kids, he helps traumatized kids.
"YOU WILL NO LONGER TERRIFY A 47 YEAR OLD MAN AND A 7 YEAR OLD GIRL!"
-Simon (Ice King) Petrikov, S5 EP14
@@acrazyweeb7225what episode is this?
@@theenderdestruction2362 Simon & Marcy
The crown took his mind but never his morals.
Gunther wasn't a bad dinosaur, just corrupted by his envy of Evergreen The Ice King
@@malachiroberts6198
Not even corrupted by envy
Evergreen actively abused Gunther the First and never treated him with respect
To an extent
Does that mean that Simon used to kidnap women?
@@Ms.FortuneTeller No, probably after the war happend he got a fixation thing for Betty and tried to fill that hole with princesses without knowing it... at least that's what I belive.
No hesitation, no protest, just instant acceptance. Never let it be said that Ice King doesn’t have morals.
but shes the same age though
@@badoof7803 he doesn't comprehend that tho
Also it is shown that her new body does affect her mental state
@@luisgutierrez8047 which makes me now question PB morals since she kinda dated Fin when she was in that body
You’re welcome for your one thousandth like.
@@arcdolphin8065 1. "also it is shown that her new body does affect her mental state" need to read that that again. Digest it. Slowly comprehend it.
2. I mean...shes basically made boyfriends that are technically also her children. Among many other things. so...questioning her morals over this is funny.
It says a lot that even a magic guy that’s lived for years and lost his mind will not prey on a minor
So prey on older people is ok?
@@jakobinobles3263 if you think about it, PB is aware that she's still almost thousands of yrs old and she's flirting with a legit 13 yr old who knows nothing about romance and is still innocent.
Hehe boi. The banana guards have someone else to capture
@Dancing Israeli They said mature thoughts (Aka 18+ things). Not actual thinking.
A child/minor is unable to consent and are in a position that makes them extremely vulnerable. They can be easily manipulated. They are gullible.
An adult knows so much more and can stop themselves from being forced into a situation they'd rather not be in. Again, a child/minor can be manipulated to do things they don't know about or don't want to do.
...Which makes them unable to handle mature thought. I don't understand how one can really think of the comment insinuating something else.
@@jakobinobles3263 if she had the mind of a adult then a loophole was possible
But her brain and mind ALSO became 13 year old
Soo no loophole
@Dancing Israeli So what, you think preying on Minors is okay? Creepy.
“I’m a villian, not a monster.”
Mans near lost all his marbles cuz of the crown and YET he still has standards and morals. Live on Simon!
I WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE NOONE ELSE KNOWS! the reason why ice king kidnaps princesses and are wanting them as pals, and wives, are because betty, simons girlfriend Simon called her his “princess” (see where I’m going with this?) and the only thing he remembers while transforming into an ice elemental, was him searching for his “princess” so that’s why he SEARCHES FOR HIS “PRINCESS” and second of all, she isn’t a princess anymore! Lemongrab is the new princess! Because she was too young, even though she is still HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, all ice king knows are, “are they a princess” and “do they like Finn and jake” because he gets jealous, and by only ONE of those things checked off, he heads to a princesses castle, to search for his Betty! Or “princess” and the reason why I say all of this is because the main reason why he keeps them against their will, is because he doesn’t wanna look for them again, he doesn’t want them to run away, like betty, and that why he is so protective over the princesses, and why he does what he does! REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING IT AGAIN
@@itskaiks3469 errrr mate this excess was not needed and some incorrect, Simon isn’t an ice elelemental. Elementals are one spirit whom reincarnate and the other woman was the ice elemental. Simon was just a man who tragically fell to the crowns power. Secondly, Lemongrab is a dude with his own plot separate from Ice King. I don’t think anyone asked for this information dump as it wasn’t needed but go off I guess?
@@marvinsalmeron585 Simon is a pseudo ice elemental, the crown is basically mimicking the ice elemental evergreen, he’s just as powerful as most of the ice elementals.
I hate to burst your bubble but you seem to be bigoted against pedosexuals
I like to think he immediately left because of what happened with Marceline. A young girl he didn't want to hurt so he just flew off
*That awkward moment when the Ice King has better morals than most influencers.*
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He said, "I only kidnap adults," and dipped. All jokes aside, I think this is one of those rare moments where we can see a remnant of Simon in there. Because as crazy as he is (especially in regards to Bubblegum), he had enough sense to not go after an underage girl. Now that I think about it, I don't think he's ever gone after Flame Princess or any of the other underage girls. Even in his deranged state he still understood that preying on children was wrong. He didn't even try to groom them.
He did mention flame princess in I Remember You but he never did anything to her
I think it's because Flame King still exists, and FP can also kill him because fire elemental.
But yeah, she also was a kid.
Which makes him an okay king. He kidnaps princesses who are women, not girls
"He didn't even try to groom them"
Have some respect for the Ice King he might be insane, but he's not a discord mod.
@@NeoVault_ice king is stronger than fp if he wasn't so childish
Crazy how even a villain can be less evil than most people on Discord
Yeah
Is that the majority of discord though? Cause to me it just sounds like an extremely overused stereotype that just sounds severely exaggerated to the point of losing its original charms in the joke.
Good one
@@superderfmen yeah almost like the twitter user joke
@@superderfmen I have been using discord for a long time now, and talking from personal experience, yeah, it is that bad
I seriously love how Ice King had no qualms and just immediately accepts it. No arguing, no further questions, just “Damn….. alright bye everyone”
mans literally said "Goodbye everyone, I'll remember you all in therapy"
Now if only weebs can do the same thing with loli's.
@@kic8523 tell me about it
@@kic8523knowing weebs,
I'm pretty sure they are only chasing drawings and not real life shit.
I'm more worried about the influencers.
5 stages of grief:
1 acceptance
2 acceptance
3 acceptance
4 acceptance
5 acceptance
Damn, Ice king outdone half of online influencers in less than 30 seconds
What an interesting name.
@Comrade Iggy Don’t get in a tizzy. I wasn’t disrespecting anything. I just said the name was interesting. Like, why is a penguin a communist?
@@thearomanticshipper4468that's crazy
Okay aromantic shipper
@@cinnamonsunshine9653ok cinnamon sunshine
I like to imagine that's THE last shred of his sanity and humanity right there. That fatherly instinct/love he had for Marcy held on and manifested as the utmost standard: Age matters.
best father in AT
@@ivandevera7665 Somehow better than Finn’s dad.
Ice King is more respectable than the “influencers” roaming around nowadays
@Kroketa unfortunately true
@@dinonuggetzzz5357 or mincraft UA-camrs
@Kroketa that makes little sense
The left makes complete sense but the neutral and right
No
Pedophilia is a leftist ideal
@@cubeman9766 cringe
Or beauty gurus ( *cough* James Charles *cough* )
Notice how he didn't say "Technically" and try any logic about how her actual age or some loophole. Homie said "she looks 13, acts 13. Nuff said."
Age is unusual in Adventure Time, Ice King is over a thousand and Marceline is right behind him but their chronological age is worlds apart (literally) due to magic. Hudson Abbadeer is older that time itself and it would be weird if he and Bubblegum got together (she's 961 btw)
Ice King knows the rules.
Based Ice King. No loli shit.
Well I think PB being "13" is less about her age in numbers and more about her body's physical and mental age. She clearly has the body of a child and her mental maturity also appeared to be reduced to that of a child. So it definitely would have been wrong for Ice King to be interested in her because she had the mind and body of a 13 year old child, despite her actual age.
@@malachiroberts6198 dude, if you were a baby with the age you have now, you would think like a baby, if you had a body of a 13 year old, you would act and think like a child, it's not like PB's brain were 980 years old too
Also, Kevin when he realized Stevonnie was actually two kids.
"I'm out."
And then he came back and made some inappropriate comments to them later.
@@daahorse1652 Well, they all can't be winners. Sometimes you just have to step in a puddle while crossing a riverbed. Thank goodness Ice King is a rock in said riverbed.
@@daahorse1652
If you ever time to kill, count how many Kevins are assholes. It's one of my favorite pastimes and I think you'll enjoy it.
@@daahorse1652 it's just another case of poor writing and continuity errors on the show. steven universe is very, very poorly written.
@@incognicardinal that’s cause it was unfortunately very rushed
He is a villian, not a monster
You know I never got the joke at a younger age but now I get it now
Same!!
There's a joke?
What? How was it a joke it’s pretty straight forward and common sense 😭😭
It made sence to me, I didn't think adults could be attracted to children
@@musiclover6944 moreso his reaction was funny. His logic is sound but the way he reacted was humorous
I’m glad they went back on this choice in the next episode, it just wouldn’t have really worked in the long run. Finn getting over his crush on PB was one of the first steps of him actually growing up and maturing
Went back on it?
@@InsulinRunner They actually made it so they were able to get her back to her normal age by giving her more candy materials in the very next episode. She doesn’t age faster, if anything, it’s the opposite, where she barely ages and is actually centuries to thousands of years old
@@InsulinRunner… no, they didn’t? The plot line of the next episode was that Lemongrab took over the Candy Kingdom, as Princess Bubblegum was too young. After being thrown in the dungeon, Bubblegum was given pieces of other candy citizens in order to increase her mass to become “older”.
@@InsulinRunner I mean if the specifics apparently don’t matter, how about you don’t randomly call them bs for no reason then?
@@InsulinRunner kids show bad
-prick
Say what you will about ice king but at least he ain’t no creep, mans got that going for him
He is a creep just not that kind of creep
Yeah I'm not sure about that he is no creep part
The man just wants love like the rest of us. We just want a girl to hug on cold nights.
@@realryushiro yeaah but most lonely guys don’t go about filling that need via stalking and mass kidnapping
@@isamekailmahmud9302 he is a creep you respect
"I'm a villain, not a monster"
If only in these days were more man like Ice king.
..... more people that kidnap women?
Edit: to the mfs that are taking that dumb conversation I started below seriously, your days are numbered
@@Ashraf7I7 yes.
@@Ashraf7I7 yes.
@@Ashraf7I7 yes.
@@Ashraf7I7 yes
This has the same energy as the Joker hating Red Skull for being a Nazi.
And I love it!
Well yes 99% of Marvel villains hate Red Skull nazi... but Joker is from DC
You've seen that image from tv tropes ?
@@AnDom There was a crossover comic
@@nicholassims9837 ah a man of culture i see
@@FreshZCORD how did Marvel and DC do a crossover ,?
I mean he was a professor, so atleast he should've had the smarts to not go for children
my big guess is marceline relationship and stuff
She's like 1000 yrs old tho
@@mogilevball3221 that’s now converted into a naive child, imagine her whole body being a brain, since most of her body is gone so is her experiences and matured emotions
@@solarflare5924 no...REAL MEN HAVE STANDARDS
...
#sigmagrindet
#tooyoungaintfun
#pedophobillionaremindset
Just because someone is smart doesnt mean they cant be a pedo.
Mans better than yandere dev
I was searching for this comment
I knew I was gonna find this comment here.
Pretty sure slugs are better than Yandere Dev at this point
MOTHER NATURE…. -Yandere Dev
insane how ice king has massive creep energy but also massive based energy at the exact same time
REAL
I'm glad they eventually dropped alot of the creep energy later in the show
He's literally me
Yeah, it's called being a sociopath...
@processingunit5321 he just like me frfr
I like how simple his reaction was, no overly long speech, just "well I'm outta here everyone."
I WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE NOONE ELSE KNOWS! the reason why ice king kidnaps princesses and are wanting them as pals, and wives, are because betty, simons girlfriend Simon called her his “princess” (see where I’m going with this?) and the only thing he remembers while transforming into an ice elemental, was him searching for his “princess” so that’s why he SEARCHES FOR HIS “PRINCESS” and second of all, she isn’t a princess anymore! Lemongrab is the new princess! Because she was too young, even though she is still HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, all ice king knows are, “are they a princess” and “do they like Finn and jake” because he gets jealous, and by only ONE of those things checked off, he heads to a princesses castle, to search for his Betty! Or “princess” and the reason why I say all of this is because the main reason why he keeps them against their will, is because he doesn’t wanna look for them again, he doesn’t want them to run away, like betty, and that why he is so protective over the princesses, and why he does what he does! REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING IT AGAIN
@@itskaiks3469nice, but it's been heavily implied throughout his arc.
@@itskaiks3469Why do you have this comment spammed on multiple messages? It's common knowledge. Are you trying to like farm? It's clearly not working
please stop.@@itskaiks3469
@@__Insanity_ You mean farming for likes?
Nurse: “Attention everyone.”
Finn: Holds down Caps Lock.
ISPBOKAY!?
@@tekgeekster yes but there were some complications.
@@MisterLG08 NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Reminds me of "Attention everyone this sword is for protection this is not for fun" line by froggy fresh
@@PeashooterSCP-TMKyes, I'm afraid there wasn't enough gum to work with. So it appears princess bubblegum is now... younger
When Ice King has more morals than certain UA-camrs.
To be fair, he never really liked PB personally. Based off of his backstory, we know that "Betty" was his "Princess". He latched onto this idea, his last memory of the person he loves being a Princess to him. So, to try and fill that void, he kidnaps princesses in hopes that he'll find *his* Princess. The most he does is make them listen to his stories. He never asks for payment, hurts them(purposefully) or sexually abuses them. Hell, if they weren't there against their will, it kinda seems like he treats them like friends. So when he sees PB as a kid, there's no way he's gonna continue pursuing that.
There was that one episode Ice King forced a princess to marry him with a cursed ice ring. He ended up marrying Jake at the end. But I feel like Ice King gradually began mellowing out and tried to socialize with those around him better
For a kids cartoon that's kinda deep bro
@@fokoff7701 oh boy it gets deeper
@@maurothetoad ...........that's what she said........ *Vanishes into thin air*
@@jomy3148 fucking lmao
He may be down bad, but even ice King isn't up for jail bait
She ain't even jail bait, she's literally 13 in body and mind.
OH NOOOOOOOO!!! I have two girlfriends, but very few people on YT are happy for my relationship success. They disl*ke all of the videos I make with my 2 girlfriends. Please be kind, dear gli
@@AxxLAfriku i hope more people dislike your videos
@@AxxLAfriku
Get a life
@@AxxLAfriku loser
"I am a lot of things, but a pedophile ain't one of em."
-Ice King.
"Fuck weebs"
-ice King
Ice king has more morals than Kris Tyson
i've been waiting for this comment haha 😂.
“She’s 13 years old now”
Everyone: *GASP*
Finn: “I see this as an absolute win.”
Out of context: finn is a pedo?!?
With context: well i guess finn can date her now
I WANNA SAY THIS BECAUSE NOONE ELSE KNOWS! the reason why ice king kidnaps princesses and are wanting them as pals, and wives, are because betty, simons girlfriend Simon called her his “princess” (see where I’m going with this?) and the only thing he remembers while transforming into an ice elemental, was him searching for his “princess” so that’s why he SEARCHES FOR HIS “PRINCESS” and second of all, she isn’t a princess anymore! Lemongrab is the new princess! Because she was too young, even though she is still HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, all ice king knows are, “are they a princess” and “do they like Finn and jake” because he gets jealous, and by only ONE of those things checked off, he heads to a princesses castle, to search for his Betty! Or “princess” and the reason why I say all of this is because the main reason why he keeps them against their will, is because he doesn’t wanna look for them again, he doesn’t want them to run away, like betty, and that why he is so protective over the princesses, and why he does what he does! REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IM NOT SAYING IT AGAIN
@@itskaiks3469 anyone who has watched up to season 3 knows that.
@@rangopistacho6928 finn was 12 at that time
Hulk: stealing lines again
"He's a villain not a monster."
Same difference lol
@@gabrielosiuhwu5903 same and different mean opposite things
@@gabrielosiuhwu5903
There’s Ice King, then there’s Cuties.
Which would you rather have?
@@blainetate743 The Ice King is hated by liberals for being against maps, so I support him.
@@tomkatt8274 Wow really? Would it interest you to know a bleeding heart liberal owns this channel?
He's like harley Quinn
He's a bad guy, but not a bad person
Omg your right
And ended up being an anti-hero in some cases later down the road.
Your bad guy but not bad guy
"You are bad guy, but this not mean you are *bad* guy."
-Zangief
Don't you mean she? Or are we talking about a different Harley Quinn?
Ice King was a true chad. He doesn't kidnap minors.
Thank goodness I didn't kidnap her.
When a dude who kidnaps princesses, fights young boys, and fights dogs for a living has a better moral compass than EDP….
I was waiting for some to make a EDP joke🤣
What’s EDP?
@@CollinMcLean Look up EDP445 at your own risk
@@CollinMcLeana youtuber that was a pedophile
@@grenouillesupremeThat don't narrow it down tbh
Nurse: "attention everyone"
Finn with no hesitation: "IS PB OK?!!!!"
*pubescent screaming*
@mrbeastt are you like a teacher or something?
Did someone call me?
@@Attention.. is your full name attention everyone?
@@eizlandaniel4804 No but Attention is my name.
You know, for years I questioned how someone could possibly reverse in age as a medical treatment before realising that this show has a shapeshifting dog, talking candy, time warping creatures and a literal reality destroying eldritch entity.
She was 13(biologically) because she doesn't have enough biomass to reach the physical body of a more mature look. Hence the reduction in age.
@@ibrahimihsan2090 very smart explanation, thanks!
@@David-yk5tq That's literally the explanation the cartoon gives.
Well she is literally made of candy, so if you think about it, losing her gum is like losing DNA.
Some animals like siphonophores do actually heal themselves by reverting to a younger version and then growing up again, they're supposed to be functionally mortal
EDP in some parallel universe.
ice KING
👑🥶
He a king for a reason👑
😂😂😂😂
Fr XD
He’s a bad guy, but that doesn’t mean he’s a *bad* guy.
ah yes *Wreck-It Ralph*
@Dylan Ogega "Not being a pedophile doesn't change anything." so you're saying pedophiles are no worse than non-pedophiles?
@Dylan Ogega Have you watched this show?
Ah yes I understood that reference
@Dylan Ogega he's not bad, he's crazy
half of his brain has frostbite and he still has better morals than most youtubers
Ice King has more morals than some people online ngl 💀
The fact we've got to look to fictional characters for morality and not actual people we live among us is some truly depressing stuff.
@LuznoLindo Heh…Among Us.
@LuznoLindo there are a lot of weirdos lurking out there, especially online. Including ones I've had the displeasure of interacting with. But there are also cool people, too, so it depends on how you look at it, lol.
@@Gtune8 Yeah, you're right. It does depend on where you look.
Some?
Ice King kidnaps Princess's, not little girls even if they are Princess's. That's because he's still Simon, even if he's gone insane.
Ice King wanting to kidnap princesses comes from Simon's wish to find Betty again.
I mean kidnapping an adult is just as bad
'll
@@ggamesgarner8027 but he doesn't know
Even Ice King doesn't harass members of the female gender who are underage.
But what about the ones that are underalert?
@Dancing Israeli oMg YoU'rE sO cRiNgE
Really hate to be that person but I can’t help pointing out the woman is a gender, female is a sex
@@qnhaze female is a gender and a sex.
@@qnhaze And Woman is a person.
Man kidnaps princesses on the daily, but even he has STANDARDS.
I never hated Ice King as a kid (maybe it's because I used to find him funny) but watching this as an adult made me love this guy more.
I use to hate finn as a kid. idk why he was so annoying
I only really hated him in this or the previous episode. He is so tone deaf and wanting to Marry BP that he doesn't realize this threat of the Lich.
I remember respecting this as a kid, but not being sure why.
You had the instinct of morality inside you I guess
This is how they teach children morals and that pedophilia isn’t okay even though they don’t use the work or concept directly. Children’s shows are amazing lol and this shows that AT was a quality one.
@@marialemonskies265 this is why everybody loves the ice king and hates jared Fogle
@@marialemonskies265That's how this show got away with a lot of things, like the implications of the Lich skinning Billy alive. It's all gotta be subtle yet noticeable
@@KiiBonI always forget that fact and it's like a punch to the face with how jarring it is when I remember that that is entirely 100% canon that the lich actually very much skinned Billy, most likely alive simply just for the sick pleasure of it.
I see the lich as someone who acts extremely pragmatic, but very clear from the way he goes about his plans is extremely petty and vengeful
Ice King is a better man than many these days.
Why "these days"? Men haven't been getting worse
@@wellshit9489 yeah they just aren’t hiding their shittyness as well
Yeah because kidnapping women is any better than being a pedo
@@AIMalek no one said that
Oh shut up already it’s not bad enough where every other comment should say this. Just take bill burrs comedy sketch on pedophiles and that pretty much sums up my whole viewpoint.
Why does a literal cartoon villain have better morals than most minecraft youtubers
This is Ice King
- Has friends in forms of penguins
- Saved the world by using his crown
- Loves each of his penguins equally
- Doesn’t try to kidnap PB when she is 13
- Doesn’t loophole
- Average Evil Doer
Be like Ice King
EDIT: Why did a fight start for a while in my replies? The internet will really do anything to have a chance at an argument.
@Red Cyndaquil just make sure they are above 18
Be a villain with standards
@Red Cyndaquil goddamnit man NO!!!!!!
It’s so weird how villain is being praised for anti-pedophilic behaviors. Has it really become so rare to see in Society?
@@imperialhistati2348 lol no. These people just live on the internet and so think the entire world is made up of Twitter and discord mods
Can't spell "Ice King" without "King" 👑
I c e k i n g
That's true :00
Ice.
Simon
"She's 13"
"Aw dang it, well i'm leaving, goodbye everyone."
*leaves like a chad*
She’s actually hundreds of years old
@@itskaiks3469 He is more than 1000 or something years old mate
What chad
He is just gay. He puts his own balls on Flin all the tine, he has a crush on him. Are you going to ignore the nasty humor of the creators?
@@veriousshifter2930she’s older than him
Ice King out here being more respectable than 40% of anime fans
bro she's 1000+ in a 8 year bod-
100%*
90% tbh
@@averageduckenjoyerthefinal
Except Tokusatsu weebs. They’re only fandom that actually touches grass via martial arts membership which they did it to support their favorite suit actor and/or actress.
Ironically, Anime weebs hate the Tokusatsu medium for being too American and too woke, ignoring its 80 years of history and being acknowledged by the Japanese as the successor to Kabuki Theatre movement.
@@masterskywalker6981 She still has an 8-year-old body which means no. Most of the time, sexual lust is triggered by appearance and ever since she has an 8-year-old body it still counts as paedophilia.
Ice king the ultimate chad vs mordecai the Bird of simps
Who's gonna win?
Ice King would freeze him!
@@thearomanticshipper4468 have you forgot?!, mordecai will dunk him! (at basketball), and he knows death kwon do death block.
-alright this is a joke.
Stop
Time to cast a spell he DOES know
@@TheMightyCrucibleKnight184 I can’t believe you’re siding with the simp god. You simp minion.
Fun fact: The one who voices Ice King is no other then the voice of SpongeBob SquarePants.
I noticed that the instant I watched this show. It's literally his Patchy voice.
and lemongrab is rick & morty
@@IndigoZ0 This explains so much.
And jake the dog is Bender Bending Rodriguez from Futurama
Tom Kenny that's who is the guy who did Ice King
Ice king isn't a Pedophile, but he removed the rear of the Dog princess when he built his own princess, so he's a furry
He's based
Atleast hotdog princess isn't underage
"It's quite hard to argue with your assessment"
That's even worse 😬😬
Now you got me thinkin bout wat animal his sona would be 🤔
Not matter how crazy he may be he still has his limits. Pure respect for ice king
“Is PB okay?” Finn asked calmly
Pretty ironic that unlike Netflix, Ice King believes that minors are off-limits.
Ouch! I don’t think you’re allowed to live.
You immolated ‘em alive!
let me guess,
Cuties?
@@TazMainian2015
It was, and it was fucking disgusting
@@thelonelystankmuncher8879 indeed and i like your name
@@thelonelystankmuncher8879
Don’t be nice about the movie that deserves no name.
"I'm a Villian,not a Monster"
A man kept alive and driven insane for over a thousand years by a powerful magic crown that's over a millenia old. And he still has better standards than people today
Does this one moral line really make him a good person, though?
He’s kidnapped lots of women, and held them against their will multiple times. Plus that time he stole their body parts, to craft his perfect woman.
Ok so he’s not a pedophile. He’s still a dangerous creep, with a (sometimes) very loose grip on reality.
@@AJSSPACEPLACE He stopped doing that after season 5, and in the series finale he became Simon again.
Yeah he just needed a friend and not just penguins
I like how age stopped the Ice King but Tree Trunks (under the influence of a bad apple) turned Finn into a crystal against his will and wanted to marry him.
Hot Dog and Lumpy Space Princesses are just all over him all the time.
Truuueeee!!! Kinda a double standard and sends a message that it’s less of an issue if females do it, that sucks :/
Dang you just made me realize it too
I think it’s more that Tree Trunks wasn’t right in the head, I’m pretty sure she became a lot more sane after being freed. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
@@blainetate743 no yeah it was totes the Apple, but even after she’s rid of the Apple she mentioned she likes Finn haha
That plot was really weird.
I get that she was under the influence of a cursed apple and had her sense of reasoning warped...but it was still unsettling even as a kid.
I agree with his "No Kids" policy,
but I strongly disagree with his "Foot Omelet" policy.
I disagree with the "no kids" policy
But I strongly agree with his "foot omelette" policy
Wait... "Foot omelette?"
@@dkisausome why are you stuck on the foot omelet. When the guy above you said he disagrees with the no kids policy.
@@incognitopotato3516 Oh wow... I think I misread that the first time...
@@dkisausome don’t worry it made me do a double take too
Even after having his body and soul ravaged by an ancient evil of unfathomable power for thousands of years, Simon was, at the worst, just a ill, confused old man who still had standards.
Considering the crown almost immediately reduced an alternate version of Finn to a mad evil wizard that froze everyone in sight, Simon’s an absolute beast for retaining as much of his sense of self as he did.
0:02 he's screamed so loud😭
Dude was easily the King of All Perviness of our generation and still knew when to call it quits.
Pretty *_Righteous_* if you ask me
Agreed
Ice King has more moral standards than a youth pastor 💀
you know 40% of yknow have same sex attraction and 100 victims on average
@@prizma45 Being LGBTQ+ or learning about being LGBTQ+, does not harm children. Religion and youth pastors, however, do.
@@retro3188 can you explain why that type of CA has 100 victims on average whereas the straight ones have a few on avg? Can you explain why they are more open to beastiality? It's because they love the thrill of pushing limits. The number of their victims mimicks the number of their partners. They have 500 partners in a year whereas straights have a handful a year. Do you understand what this does to their behinds? And how diseases spread widly in that community? Are you ignorant of the term "bugchasing"? They want HIV and the ones who have it are called "gift givers". You are out of touch or malicious
@@retro3188Did you seriously just say that LGBT+ people are incapable of harming children?
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 He D I D
Just goes to show you how good Simon is, seems that most people who bear the Crown do all kinds of horrible things. Simon just wants to be a goof
The ice king/ simon is probably one of the saddest characters in adventure time.
Also think about this: simon used to refer to betty (his fiance) as "princess" and what does ice king do? Kidnap princesses to decide on which one to marry. Parts of simon are in there, but it seems ice king is still as much his own being as simon.
He’s a crazy old guy, not a creepy crazy old guy
I mean its a yes and no situation on the creepy parr
@@sheldonsaidali5421
More like a creepy guy who isn’t as bad as other creepy old guys.
Ice King: nope's out of there
Finn: gets shipped with her for several episodes
Finn's thirteen
Finn is the same age as her Both in body and mind in theses eps
bro really said “im a villain, not a monster.”
Not even his crown can take away his respect to every girls' age.
The dude has standards.
Mad respect for that.
How ice king got better morals than most minecraft youtubers
Denial: “Aw,”
Anger: “Dangit!”
Bargaining: “Well,”
Depression: “I’m outta here.”
Acceptance: “Goodbye everyone.”
it’s the saddest thing realizing that ice king’s obsession with princesses is because he called betty his princess and he just wants his princess betty back
It is really sad😢
Ice King loves princesses but he has standards.
I forgot how much Finn screamed in almost every episode.
Ice king be like: “I’m a kidnapper but not a LITERAL kidnapper, I’m out”😑
Ice king is now my new adventure time fav character
Marceline is my fav, but good old Simon is great too.
Well if he’s respected by Dio
@@thearomanticshipper4468 At least he isn't a child predator but true Professionals like him have standards
Actually Simon is a really tragic character, too bad he didn't reunite with Betty in the end.
Didn’t Dio Brando steal `lady Irinas first kiss? ;lol
"She's a kid! What're you expecting me to do? Give her a bracelet?"
The crown had done stuff wrong to Simon that messed with him, his sanity, and his life. You really tend to sympathize with him now after learning of Simon’s (Ice King’s) origins.
Also, respect that he’s not THAT type of guy
A deranged creep forced to insanity by a magical crown with no sense of his true self left, but still has enough understanding in him to stay away from children. I love the way Simon is written even before the show revealed who he was without the crown.
Just realized he solely kidnapped or played around with PB most of the time because out of any princess there is, PB was the closest to betty