The Insane Genius of WES BORLAND (Limp Bizkit’s secret weapon)
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Limp Bizkit's guitarist Wes Borland is the band's secret weapon. But does Wes Borland hate Limp Bizkit? How did his playing change songs like "Nookie" and "Break Stuff"? Does he hate Fred Durst?
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0:00 Intro
2:36 Wes Borland's early years
8:36 Wes leaves Limp Bizkit
13:25 Does Wes hate Limp Bizkit - Розваги
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Wes Boreland was the reason I liked Limp Bizkit.
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Had to give this a dislike because you missed one huge reason that Wes quit the band. At the 2001 Big Day Out in Sydney, a teenage girl was crushed in the pit and later died. Limp Bizkit cancelled the 3 remaining BDO appearances because of that and Wes had a hard time dealing with that, which along with everything else you mentioned is why he left.
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Gross dude
If Rolling Stone does not like a band, it means absolutely nothing.
The Rolling Stones made the most boring music in history
If the old farts at Rolling Stone don't like a band, it generally means go buy their album. lol
I think Wes's biggest strength is that while he wrote great riffs, he always knew exactly when to quit adding to them. Rather than get overly buisy and cluttered his riffs always stay agressive, percussive, and memorable. Its pretty rare to find examples where a single musician defined an entire genre to such a degree, Korn sounded like Korn, but Wes basically became the sound of Nu-Metal.
Thank you!
What about Mike from LP? You say nu-metal and immediately his face comes to mind no hesitation. Between writing, producing, driving the bus constantly, promoting the band online when the internet was still brand new, he was that bands rock.
And as defining as wes and fred and limp bizkit were to the genre, no one was quite able to mimic what they had created.
Well said! Obviously some bands tried to mimick Johnathan David’s vocal style but yea I totally agree the bouncy riffs is what made numetal what it was and Wes was the best at it and definitely a huge influence to a lot of bands
@@justinbowen1183 Well Limp, LP and Slipknot pretty much defined nu metal, you hear the riff from a mile away and in 3 seconds you already know 😛
The older I get the more I appreciate everyone else in Limp Bizkit. I used to be a Borland fanboy (still technically am) but I've grown to appreciate how good Sam Rivers is as a bassist, John Otto as a drummer, DJ Lethal as a sampler/turntablist and Fred Durst as a frontman/marketer. They all just gel together
Everyone in the band except for Fred is pretty solid in terms of musical ability. People way over-exaggerated how bad they were just because people felt like they were way more popular than they deserved. And they got so popular because like you said, Fred is a great frontman, not only in marketing the band and making connections in the music industry, but also because he's great at getting the crowd going at live shows. He was the perfect guy for what limp bizkit was supposed to be, just some dumb, fun music people could party/let off some steam to
@@wuffymcwuffFred really isn't a musician, you're right. But he's a very good frontman tho
@@wuffymcwuffhe's not a good singer but he's an amazing frontman. He can get a crowd wild and their shows have tons of energy.
Fred is not the best singer in rock/metal, he is among the elite frontmen though, for creating a buzz, capturing attention, directing/crowd participation. He’s much more of an Emcee with those qualities, and honestly arguably the top rapper/singer combo in any rock/metal band.
John Otto is the secret weapon of that band. Dude was quietly one of the better drummers of the last 25 years in popular music.
People might hate them... but Limp Bizkit as a unit nailed their marketing gimmick. People always come back to listen to them and give them attention.
I’ve been listening to them since Chocolate Starfish came out and I still have their songs in my playlist rotations.
Keep coming back to them? I haven't left since I first heard them 20 years ago
The first album is still awesome
@@infinidominion significant other is good, but like you said $3 bill is an absolute masterpiece and totally slept on
@@effektfootwear i remember nookie being pushed so hard on TRL and radio at the time
As someone who plays bass guitar, I must say Sam Rivers is also amazing! Great, groovy bass lines, as simple as they can be, in service of the song, but never too simple that they just go unnoticed or don't add to the song. Also, never so complicated that they just become a hindering factor.
In fact, all of the musicians in Limp Bizkit's main lineup are top notch, and bringing them together was an incredible job by Fred Durst. Keeping them together wasn't as easy, but it sure is nice seeing them together and getting some recognition outside of their old fan base, after all these years!
They work very well together,and compliment each other's playing. I think Otto is probably the best musician in the bunch, but they are all pretty good in their own way
As a drummer, I can say John Otto is definitely underrated. Has a lot of pocket. There was always some nasty "funk" vibe going on in his grooves on the earlier records. Just wasn't common in heavy music at all (and probably still isn't).
@@tijlvandermeulen3930 I'd say he retained this vibe (like David Silveria from Korn) all across their records, even the hated ones. A good example being Results May Vary which is still controversial as a whole but Otto's parts are funky as hell (especially on songs like Almost Over or Let Me Down), those high-hats and ghost notes are really distinct
Limp Bizkit‘s musicianship is top notch across the board.
@@tijlvandermeulen3930 I'm a musician as well. Wes has some solid riffs, but I've heard him play leads and they were average at best, but he is a good writer, and a solid player. Otto is a beast.
I'm a huge Wes fan, I've seen Big Dumb Face and Black Light Burns live multiple times. What I respect about him is that he self funded every side project tour he did.
I'd watch Duke lion 500 times straight before I could listen to limpdix once.
Black Light Burns is super underrated.
@@tad3830 Like massively underrated, I'm still waiting for a third album...
@@tad3830 BLB was featured in an episode of "Burn Notice" and i have been a fan ever since. "these 4 walls" was the song. Very good band. Very bad promotion and marketing.
Lots of flocks on the rocks
Wearing boots without no socks
Whooping ass knuckles brass
Bighting fire and chewing glass
Fred’s no singer but he’s one hell of a marketer and businessman. He was able to pull the best of the best he could find and Wes is that best. Wes Borland’s talent was the secret frontman (whether he liked it or not), and when he left it practically pulled the plug on everything.
Unpopular opinion: I think Fred has underrated and unique vocals
@@asianmanfromasiaeveryone has unique vocals. As long as they can sing in tune, it will sound good. Fred Durst straddles that line.
While he may not be a great singer, he’s an excellent frontman in terms of energy and stage prescience.
@@asianmanfromasia😂
I always liked feeds vocals
If it means anything, my father was a metal fan when Korn and Limp Bizkit were getting big, and even back then he said that he remembered liking only one part of Limp Bizkit: the guitar. We agree that Wes is truly gifted and very creative, and is, in a way, the nu metal version of Buckethead. (Please do a Buckethead video, we need that).
as much as I like BucketHead theres no way he’s making a video about him. This guy only does popular musicians and bands
I'll admit, the guitar is good but the band does suck! I can't stand rap metal and nu metal.
Buckethead is far from some underground secret. I mean he on guitar hero.
Finally someone else that mentions the Godly Buckethead. I like Wes, but that's comparing a ford pinto to a space shuttle
But the whole rhythm section is pretty good. The weakest link was always Durst.
Limp Bizkit was actually full of talented musicians. Sam Rivers wrote amazing bass lines to go with Wes Borland's riffs. Their drummer John Otto could play a hip hop type beat you couldn't help but bob your head to and seamlessly transition into something heavy. DJ Lethal also had a lot of talent and was always used in just the right amount, never overbearing, but you knew he was there.
I always love the opening beat to My Generation
Lethal also in the legendary House Of Pain
LB was awesome. People love to hate talented people that are successful.
Having worked with Wes at a tiny coffee shop and jazz club, and occasionally jamming with him and his brother pre-LB, I knew he was something special. He is a true artist in every sense of the word. I remember going to a Primus show in Orange Park, and him talking about thumbing the guitar like Les which eventually turned into that 2 hand tapping riff in Sour. I remember Mesa Boogie cabinets covered in amazing artwork and rabbits and skulls and candles. I remember a barista that took making espresso drinks as a form of art.
Please tell me your talking about juice and Java on Hendricks Ave in Jacksonville... that's where I met wes originally and always thought he was just such a great down to earth guy. We stayed friends for a short time and he finally convinced me to come see him and the band play a small show at the milk bar. Think there were like 40 or 50 people there to see the show and thinking what the hell did I just see? Thought it was not so great but didn't have the heart to tell him... who knew they were so fabulous.
@@elijahgiter9559likely since I've heard at least one other person mention J/J on Hendricks and Wes on the same conversation
is that you Wes writing about yourself? Love you man!
@@elijahgiter9559 That's the one. I worked there off an on through 3 (i think) owners. Great times.
Primus came to Orange Park? Holy shhhh😮
Their recent comeback coupled with the changes fred made to his persona are working really well. Theyre putting on a great show and reintroducing an entire genre to a new generation. I think that may help their longevity at this point, seeing the kids today really appreciating 20+ year old music.
I remember seeing them live in 2010 Fred had a bunch of girls come up on stage at the end of the show before they'd perform Faith and he warned them not to get close to Wes because he'd kick them and everyone laughed it off but one girl did get close to Wed and indeed he kicked her. I thought that summed Wes up perfectly.
I wish I had a husband like him 😅
What has bugged me about Limp Bizkit has always been how it sounds as whole. Wes Borland however is however the most interesting element in the band, and at times it has felt like he played in the wrong band. Wes has a creative and inventive approach to guitar playing and he isn't just playing simple power chords or shredding mindlessly. Black Light Burns, Eat the Day and his solo albums really show what he can do and it certainly isn't the conventional way.
In the same vein that travis barker is such a creative drummer compared to blinks relatively simpler pre-untitled songs.
100% agreed. I always thought he would have fit in better with like Marilyn Manson. Or if he wanted to keep the contrast, like the Def Tones. Coulda been their new bassist when their old one died. That would have been interesting.
@@pbabiesinspace6112so you want a guy thats know for being a great guitar player, to play bass if he was in a different band?
@@poindextertuneshe played bass with the band From First to Last, when Sonny Moore (aka Skrillex) was the frontman.
Always blew my mind when people would say this. He’s in the perfect band. Any other vocalist he has worked with doesn’t add the energy to his riffs that Fred does and the groove behind it like Sam and John do. Limp Bizkit was the perfect band for Wes. Everything about them complements his riffs and ambient style incredibly well.
I think he found a way to use Limp Bizkit to essentially finance his solo work. His solo albums are totally experimental… world music, trip-hop… it’s not music for anyone but himself.
Noo that's because you know him from limp bizkit and that's why you don't like his other complete shit projects
Let's be real, the musicianship in Limp Bizkit is pretty excellent. The entire band is like one giant rhythm section. Sam Rivers and John Otto are extremely tight as well.
What?? Real musician?? Limp bizkit??? You must be kidding.
The only thing wrong with Limp Bizkit is Fred Durst. And really if he had just fallen into the background like 311 or something they woulda stood the test of time.
@@Melo7849 I agree a lot, if you take out Durst singing, the drums and bass are groovie and catchy as hell and the guitar comes with full non stop agression and technical experimentation that makes the listening experience way too fresh... Then comes Fred vocals and it kinda dies a little bit for me...
@@matthewgallant3622funny how people like to hate on bands' backbones. Limp bizkit is fred durst just like metallica is lars ulrich
@@Melo7849yes limp bizkit has some excellent musicians even the people that hate their music can’t deny that.
Wes really laid the foundation for everything I love about melodic and heavy playing. He has a strangely progressive and melodic tone to a lot of his riffs, he's an absolute genius and there's no one quite like him
Another Limp Bizkit video! Don’t ever change Finn. We love you.
People have been sleeping on Wes for a long time. He writes such unique, non-typical guitar riffs and always adds & serves the song.
I was a very, VERY late bloomer to LB. It’s just fun music, cringey at times but just overall fun. And Wes’ riffs are top tier. Not ashamed to say I’m a legitimate fan of them
I like Limp Bizkit too if I just look for mindless fun.
Fred's vocals and lyrics are just bad but Wes riffs are what makes the songs fun
Hot Dog for example. Lyrics are god awful but the riffs by Wes are just really good. LB has really groovy and fun riffs IMHO
Probably why Results May Vary is LB worst album. No wes and the only album were LB tried being serious which was a band that was known to never take themselves seriously
Also have to give credit to the other band members like DJ Lethal, John Otto and Sam Rivers (All very talented). Its just Fred's cringe lyrics and bad sounding vocals. Even though I think Durts marketing and stage presence are great 🤷♂️
I was at a party last week, and Break Stuff came on... people were LOVING it😂😂
Wes' solo stuff was what really blew me away, dude makes incredible trippy guitar music
I have a really special place in my heart for LB. Without them, I would have never gotten into the music I love today. They were really a gateway band for me and I’m glad they’re getting their flowers again.
I really like a story told in honesty like Wes's. He openly admits to his giant ego and ultimately accepts his reality, even though it may not be COMPLETELY ideal. He seems to know his place in the industry because of his early mistakes. Respect!
What i have always loved about limp bizkit is how dissimilar each member was. Obviously the costumes really put wes at the forefront of that.
In the age of TRL and homogenous boy bands, the fact they appeared to be a random group of wildly different characters smashed together as a ragtag bunch was something I've always been drawn to.
As someone who can wake up feeling like a different person each day of the week, it was comforting to see a bunch of weirdos managing to come together as something with a greater value than the sum of their parts.
Reminds me of my friends in that era; two bands that bridged the gap, no matter your preference for hip hop, rap, metal, or whatever, were KoRn and Limp Bizkit.
I always loved Wes’ unique guitar style. He always put together some crazy riffs that were unlike any other guitar sounds you could find maybe ever.
I love his mission impossible riffs. It sounds so epic in c# tuning
Your videos are so good, and only getting better. Very surprised you're able to achieve this quality and still upload a ton
Little known fact: his brother Al was a cohost on the home improvement show "Tool Time"
I don't think so Tim.
As always great video... Wes is defo one of my guitar influences and his talent is undeniable on top of him being a complete artist.
Sometimes I find a bit puzzling when a couple of videos back Finn said something about not liking doing videos on bands like Mudvayne (I don't recall if it was in this channel or in his other one).
I do find Mudvayne to be a massively misunderstood and underrated band with fantastic musicians, and top songs with their own creative flavor that drastically deviates from other NuMetal bands of the time, it's not drastically different to me to make parallels between Limp Bizkit and Mudvayne (not when it comes to songs, but the fact people dismiss those 2 bands without realising how amazing and unique these 2 bands always were).
Great piece on one of the most important artists of that generation. I know personally, Wes has had a massive influence on my guitar playing that's apparent even 20+ years after I first heard them. Players like him, Head/Munky, Clint and John from Sevendust, and Dan from Disturbed really informed a LOT of my early years playing guitar.
"Wes has had a massive influence on my guitar playing" yeah, in mine too, although I don't play that heavy now in comparison. One of the cool stuffs at Nu-Metal for musicians is: It is relatively easy to play and sounds massive, which is cool for beginners (I learned classical guitar first for 8 years). The band that influenced me the most was SOAD (we played Prison Song, ATWA, Toxicity, Sugar, Aerials and Spiders in our first years as a band, SOAD was a third of our setlist back in the days 😁)
Wanna hear my newest song? Recorded 2 days ago, it's still fresh and hot: ua-cam.com/video/6_uxGJW2pww/v-deo.html
I've always loved Wes, since the early Bizkit days, Black Light Burns, his artwork, and everything else. It's cool to see his influence over 20yrs later!
Side note: getting to meet and chill with Wes after a show in Baltimore was so cool. The rest of the guys were tired and, while sweet, weren't that invested in the interaction. Wes lit up when I asked him if there was going to be another art show or clinic session. So relaxed and comfortable with just shooting the shit.
If you were a teenager when they came out they were just fun. You have to have balance between thought provoking, emotional, and just silly fun music you listen to, especially in your teens. Embrace the eclectic.
I was 35 and thought they were fun. But I'm a degenerate
Crazy how Adam Jones of tool went down the exact same path as Wes in art school and actually got a job in the industry, plus joined a much more respected metal band as the guitarist. I think both dudes are S tier guitarists but it makes me wonder if Wes ever had any hard feelings about it
I think it hurt him at the time. He is a fan of tool and Maynard didn't have a good opinion of limp bizkit at the time
I ran to my mom screaming and crying because I woke up early one morning, flipped on MTV and Wes Borlands black eyes were the first thing I saw 🙂
Wes was always what drew me to the band, loved his creativity and amazing face paint/outfits. Black Light Burns was one of his side projects I liked alot as well. Wes has always been the man and the best part of LB
I always loved Limp Bizkit sound, period. Fred Durst aside, their sound is just incredible, love the atmospheric vibes, beats, riffs, bass lines, drum grooves. It's just awesome.
Had a guest seminar at my guitar college with Wes years ago. He said "you guys are better guitarists than me"....yes, there were some very technically accomplished players I saw everyday, but how many of them have sold millions of records! It's not all about virtuosity. Creativity is always more pleasing to the ear, in my opinion. Wes is a very underrated player.
Yeah art and music is funny that way you can master a technical skill, but without the creativity your nothing. Like painting. There's millions of great painters but only a few oddballs with shoddy technical skills got famous lol
thats why steve vai is a boomer
I absolutely adore some of his solo stuff. It's clearly what he wanted to be able to make for a long time and he was finally in a position to be able to comfortably put them out
Thank you for the Limp Bizkit content, always hyped when you drop LB related vids.
Sam Rivers and John Otto are one of the best rhythm sections of all time! Wes only enhances that! An absolute genius in his own right! Amazing use of Add9th chords!
theyre not much without him, stop coping
Limp has been my favorite band since 10 years old. I’ll be seeing them twice this year. Idk who I’d be without their influence. Wes was always loud with his costumes which made me feel confident to be who I wanted to be from a young age. Fucking love these guys
Loved this video because I love Wes. And im so happy someone finally gave him a spotlight.
I'm glad Wes is getting recognized for his greatness. If you really look at music without what the media says it should be, you can see how amazingly talented he is. Popularity and talent don't always go hand in hand sadly.
Sam Rivers, John Otto and Wes Borland are all three top tier musicians who no-one can disrespect. So I wonder how Limp Bizkit would've turned out with a different front man. Maybe a better band, but probably less succesful from a commercial point of view.
if you focus on just the vocal melodies from the sung songs on SO and CS you can hear what they'd be like with scott weiland singing 😂
Wes Borland was a role model for me as a songwriter and guitarist. Ever since I was 10, I could pick out his sound. He has such a penchant for atmosphere. His hammer-on percussive tapping, his signature sticatto delay-EQ melodies, his tremelo whammy making his harmonic riffs sound like an alien wrote them, and especially how sharp his heavy riffs were; octaves and all.
Eat the Day, BLB and that Damning Well track were all so beautiful and unique to his style.
Even he himself being a Tool fan boy, it's no wonder he was invited to be the guitarist for A Perfect Circle. (Listen to the Weak and Powerless "Tilling my Grave" remix - that's Wes playing)
That’s interesting, I didn’t know that was Borland on that track 👍
and yet you play nickelback covers yourself correct?
His work on From First to Last Heroine really changed their sound in a positive way and put them early on the butt rock wave . He’s a goat
Great video! I’ve been a huge fan for the better part of my life. Had the pleasure of meeting Wes on a few occasions, once at a LB show and another at a BLB show. I’ve always been fascinated by his unique appearances and his musical talent. He does it like no other.
Don’t care what anyone says the first Limp Bizkit album is killer!! Enjoy the entire album! The rest of there collection is hit or miss for me. If you ever get the chance to see them live DO IT!!! One of the best live shows I’ve ever experienced! Caught them at 2 different Family Values tour event! Astonishing!
Pollution, Counterfeit, Stuck, Sour, Clunk, Faith
Yeah. That album is pretty good
Also, saw them live last year in London and seeing them again at Download 2024. They are a really fun band live
@@metalheadjake3339 exactly!! Thank you!!
Fucking love Limp Bizkit man! Musically they are great with Wes, John, Sam and Lethal and yeah the lyrics may not be much a lot of the time but they are fun to sing along to with friends and Fred is a great front man and is brilliant live!
Nice editing with the audio at 12:40! Im sure DraftKings is proud at least 🤷♂️
Chocolate Starfish was a masterpiece. It’ll Be Ok and Boiler are excellent songs that still hold up.
Just a friendly reminder that lots of people love you, Finn and you're great at what you do. ❤️
Tbh black light burns was awesome and really shows what wes could do
Congrats on 100K views in less than a day Finn. This is HUGE 🙌🏼
Never heard of Wes...altho I play guitar I was stuck on more classic players. Refreshing to listen to this doc, and love Wes' artistic style in playing and how he presented himself in costume on stage.
Black Light Burns are criminally underrated. If you like NIN or Stabbing Westward, I’d recommend checking out their first album ‘Cruel Melody’.
I never cared for Limp in their heyday but I caught them at a festival last year and that band killed. I can take or leave Fred but the band was tight and funky as hell. Turned out to be a great show.
One thing I will say about Fred Durst, he is ACTUALLY a damn decent director, The MV for Laquerhead by Primus was fucking awesome.
This is a great video: I bought my guitar (I’m a drummer) because of Wes. Glad that Bizkit is starting to get some love again, because there are a lot of folks who hate them that probably at one time loved them. Wes is a brilliant guitarist, and some of his personal history was nice to hear in this video
Wes Borland and John Otto make LB. Otto is an underrated drummer.
Otto is a beast!
Not a big Limp Bizkit fan, but HUGE Wes fan. Love his creativity, creating his look and performances...magnificent.
Cruel Melody of Black Light Burns is really worth to be checked out. Really loved that album.
I’m born and raised in Jax. My neighbor went to church with Fred’s mom so she got me a signed Significant Other poster (by Fred) and Sam Rivers grew up in my neighborhood.
There are only two types of people when it comes to Limp Bizkit's music: those who truly enjoy it, and the narcissists who believe they're "too sophisticated" to admit they enjoy it.
Nah
Kids today dont know what they missed out on....
I remember trying to do the “Wes Borland leg-kick spin” from the Nookie video at Jr high dances…I was pretty geed at it too
Dude is an 8nsane guitarist. And his Project Black Light Burns was pretty sick. Dude has great vocals! Saw them Live at Pain in the Grass years ago. And they were amazing!
Fuck yea. Time for daddy to make some cash
Thanks for this one, Finn. Essay time. Wes' riffs is what hooked me on LB. I remember loving them soon as $3 Bill Yall came out and had to go see them live in Memphis in 1998 (or '99?). I couldn't believe how big they got with Significant Other. That's also when the floodgates of hate really opened up and I didn't understand it at first, but then it hit me and it was obvious. It was because they were huge, and we all know how cool it is to hate what's popular simply because its popular. Just like Deftones as an example. The critics try to stereotype a music fan by what bands they listen to. I was never a "frat bro" or whatever, I was just kind of a skate punk kid who liked the sound of the band's music, and again, it was due for the most part to Wes' playing.
Wes was always the most interesting part of that band. I never saw them live during their initial run but they came to St Andrews Hall in Detroit during the Gold Cobra tour and it was a fantastic show. The energy between the band and the crowd in that intimate of a setting was crazy and it became one of my top 3 shows I've seen.
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I remember as a 13-year-old skateboarder growing up in Maple Valley that the first time I saw Limp Bizkit I was not at all into it and then I noticed Wes in the background and was like OK maybe him though
the contrast between Wes and Fred makes them my favorite band. I always been interested in nümetal, rap and goth music. Limp Bizkit merges all of that in a funny and simplistic way.
Listening to limp Bizkit instrumental (only) is amazing!! Incredible writting.
I started to really pay attention to Limp Bizkit and West Borland in particular during Covid. Seeing their live show from Hellfest really impressed me. I then started going down the rabbit hole of finding everything about Wes’s playing and LP.
John Otto was one big influence for me to start playing drums, and all his stuff still kicks a$$, great drummer.
Wes Boreland always stood out as the talent in that band. I remember thinking when he left that that had to be the end of the band.
I didn't know Boreland was a Primus fan, but that makes so much sense!!!
My favorite genre is Prog; such as Frost* and Haken.
I grew up with experience in all kinds of music, but Nu Metal made me realize I enjoyed Metal stylism above all.
I heard Korn and Limp Bizkit in a single day and I really enjoyed it.
I loved Limp Bizkit then and I still love them now. The last album was short, but I think it's great!
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I loved the Duke Lion album by Big Dumb Face. It's goofy, fun and really heavy too. Definitely Ween influenced, but trying to reach Mike Patton levels.
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Great video Finn! And I can’t agree more with your opinion that the new wave of trappy, groovy deathcore bands like Darko or even deathcore like Brand of Sacrifice use a lot of effects and pitch shifters to get weird Wes sounds
Black Light Burns' first album is pretty great. Saw them on that tour and it was fun seeing Wes in his own environment.
when i first saw wes in the sour video tapping i was hooked. i had never seen anything like it and the riffs are dope.
"Itll be ok" has such a smooth silky riff that that i haven't heard anything similiar too
I saw them live as part of the Weenie Roast, I was there for other bands, but as soon as Wes hit those first chords I couldn’t stop watching him. To me he was the frontman. And holy shit they put on an epic show.
“Counterfeit” came on my playlist today at work, and I couldn’t help thinking how great their first album was, and how cool they were then. Before they blew up I thought of them kinda like Zebrahead or 311. I remember hearing “Sour” on the radio and that was my first Limp Bizkit song. It was loud, cathartic, angry, with rapping and screaming and hard metal riffs.
Black Light Burns first 2 albums are some of the best "side project" albums of all time imo... Cruel Melody is just front to back incredible and ...The moment you realize you're going to fall is a damn solid follow up
This is a cool video format! I would love to see more videos like this from you, if you enjoy doing this kind of thing :)
I'm happy to see Wes getting the type of respect and appreciation he really deserves.
I’m still limpin with the bizkit. Wes was very distinct in his approach. Always memorable and never derivative.
As always. Well done Finn!
Shit, I can remember when Scott Borland was in the band playing keyboards. I can remember the Stuck cassette tape floating around Jacksonville back in like 1996. Then they played Warped that year, at least in Jacksonville and the crowd went nuts. Some of us who were in the music scene back then in Jacksonville have a weird history with LB and more so Fred
I saw Limp Bizkit open at a club in the 90s. I remember not really liking the music, but they had a ton of energy and knew how to move the crowd. I then saw Black Light Burns open around 2007 and didn't even realize I was watching the former guitarist of Limp Bizkit until I looked them up later.
Wes Borland is the reason I picked up a guitar. There was something about being 12 and seeing him play, the characters, the riffs, it was like watching a show within side the show.
Black Light Burns - Cruel Melody album is perfect. In my opinion, that album is the peak of Wes Borland's musical career.
I seen them in Memphis back in 99 at their peak and they killed it! Red Yankee hats everywhere. They were just a fun band who didn't take themselves too serious and Wes was a riff wizard
I never really was a fan of LB but I always liked Wes.
He influenced my guitar techniques a little back in the day with clean “delay,” then cranking it over back to heavy distorted rifts. Tool was a bigger influence with that regard but he still inspired me on some of the junk I wrote lol!
never heard of darko but that clip you played was sick!
I was super surprised Finn mentioned the anime Vandread lol
Wes is a trip man, i met him when i was a kid at Family Values 98 and he refused to sign something of mine because he had instead signed an orange for me, which he felt brought more value to me
Love the history and commentary