The Rise & Fall of SYSTEM OF A DOWN

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  • @ThePunkRockMBA
    @ThePunkRockMBA  11 місяців тому +38

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    • @suicideheadaches4460
      @suicideheadaches4460 11 місяців тому +6

      Now alice in chains and or screaming trees pls?

    • @armandorivera3289
      @armandorivera3289 11 місяців тому +2

      Please do review of disturbed of origin, and how's disturbed did it and what is their last impact on their legacy?

    • @Dime_time333
      @Dime_time333 11 місяців тому +1

      Tired of all these pop up laziness apps. Who wants to pay 250% for food?

    • @wyattcole5452
      @wyattcole5452 10 місяців тому

      It’s not called Turkey today, it’s Türkiye

    • @MrLince-hr4of
      @MrLince-hr4of 9 місяців тому +1

      they never "Fall "

  • @anthonygillette
    @anthonygillette 11 місяців тому +1347

    Considering Finn isn’t a personal fan of SOAD, it’s nice to continue knowing he knows his shit and understands music far past his own musical preference.

    • @LeadMe2TheBliss
      @LeadMe2TheBliss 11 місяців тому +58

      Most real music fans do though...I love to educate myself on bands IDC much for because even if you don't like a band you should at least respect them for their contributions and their influence. Also, just because he isn't a fan doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't like and appreciate their music. IDK if I would call myself a SOAD fan but even I own their ST and Toxicity CD because I'm just a huge music fan and I do have some nostalgic memories connected with those albums.

    • @Dr_Lipschitz
      @Dr_Lipschitz 11 місяців тому +8

      Exactly! Music appreciation is a great skill and that’s how you know someone is a true music lover. He can appreciate the best in music even if he’s not a fan. Wish more people were like that

    • @katielowen
      @katielowen 11 місяців тому +9

      Why he don’t like SOAD? Poser?🤣

    • @solfatboy3822
      @solfatboy3822 11 місяців тому +16

      It’s legit my favorite thing about Finn and why I respect him so much. He shits on awesome bands but ABSOLUTELY respects what these bands accomplished and how they accomplished it. Fantastic channel.

    • @xXMachineGunPhillyXx
      @xXMachineGunPhillyXx 11 місяців тому +14

      This and the RHCP video prove that, even if Finn isn’t the biggest fan of either band, he’s still fair and willing to show respect to their extremely successful, unique careers. That’s a really admirable quality.

  • @southpole76
    @southpole76 11 місяців тому +932

    System of a Down: the Armenians we needed.
    Kardashians: the Armenians we got.

  • @astralmass
    @astralmass 11 місяців тому +690

    Much respect for making an unbiased video about an important band that you personally don't much care for.

    • @MaYstruction
      @MaYstruction 11 місяців тому +28

      It's called "content creation" and it's the guy's job.

    • @alicspellman6938
      @alicspellman6938 11 місяців тому +35

      Classic bad taste Finn

    • @Tardisntimbits
      @Tardisntimbits 11 місяців тому +10

      ​@@MaYstructionTrue...but I've definitely seen other content creators pull out the most biased, negative takes on subjects they don't care for, so it's still praiseworthy, sadly...

    • @MaYstruction
      @MaYstruction 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Tardisntimbits well, I mean, it's your channel so you can do what you want. Fact is, people click on stuff they like so it makes more money to not shit on anyone or anything.

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 11 місяців тому +4

      Sounds like he has bad taste

  • @solutionless123
    @solutionless123 11 місяців тому +61

    It's bizarre that they were discriminated against for being from an ethnic minority. Nobody told Kiss to piss off because 'people wouldn't get a jewish band'

    • @arthurgutierrez1450
      @arthurgutierrez1450 11 місяців тому +9

      Characters that have never had the curiosity to look at an atlas and a history book are the quickest to judge harshly. Maybe when the corporate media declares Armenians the ethnic minority du jour, people will learn a thing or two about them.

  • @jmarx3943
    @jmarx3943 11 місяців тому +249

    While i wish we would've gotten more music from SOAD, I'm grateful for what we have. Still listen to them to this day.

    • @jeremysiron9622
      @jeremysiron9622 11 місяців тому +11

      Hey, at least they were really productive while they were making music, I mean they put out five albums in eight years…. So yeah, definitely grateful for what we have.

    • @RDD5547
      @RDD5547 9 місяців тому +10

      @@jeremysiron9622 and the albums were consistent

    • @kauffamn1016
      @kauffamn1016 8 місяців тому +9

      Bro , every song is a banger . Love them .

    • @t.a.yeah.
      @t.a.yeah. 6 місяців тому +3

      I love them, too, just listend to 4 Albums yesterday. Listend to them for 20 years but knew nothing about them until today. xD (Except for that they are from Armenia or something like that.)
      Why were they concerned that Germans would not know what Armenia is? I guess we tend to know it better than US Americans. oO Doesn't play a big role for the music anyway, music connects people, no matter where they are from. I hate racism. xD (I know, wow, very deep.)

    • @sammysalgado1475
      @sammysalgado1475 4 місяці тому +1

      Serj still makes solo music 😊

  • @Neffie42
    @Neffie42 11 місяців тому +260

    Your videos are the closest to what MTV would be today if MTV was still itself. Thank you for the nostalgia and facts about bands we all love or loved at one point

    • @Sennacherib-e9g
      @Sennacherib-e9g 9 місяців тому

      MTV was literally about playing new music videos, not doing long form essay pieces on old eras of music.

    • @slaydezero2658
      @slaydezero2658 9 місяців тому +1

      MTV used to be about music.. It was in the name!
      Now its about teen moms and junkies...

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 9 місяців тому +1

      If VH1 didn't become BET 2.0 and still aired Behind the Music.

    • @SaccharineHearts
      @SaccharineHearts 7 місяців тому

      Nah he gives more fuse vibes,

  • @AlligatorArms
    @AlligatorArms 11 місяців тому +184

    The way I see it, they went out on top, and left people wanting more. And that’s a much better legacy than fizzling out and having people wanting you to go away. If they never make another record, I’m at peace with it.
    At the same time, when I see a band like System go through the interpersonal struggles that they have, it’s definitely increased my appreciation for bands who stick around forever with the same lineup. That’s just not easy to do.

    • @Robisquick
      @Robisquick 11 місяців тому +2

      Couldn't agree more.

    • @Romaniac100
      @Romaniac100 10 місяців тому +4

      I'm mad because you're right..but I want more music and I need it now!!! 😢

    • @halfdrankdrppr
      @halfdrankdrppr 5 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, there was no downfall

  • @Missconduct044
    @Missconduct044 11 місяців тому +374

    I respect and appreciate them immensely for the way they “tapped out”
    For not driving the band into a brick wall, changing style or going into petty fights.
    Who’d have thought the band who sings about pulling tapeworms out is the classiest of the bunch!! Absolute die hard soad fan!! ❤

    • @timmytuckerson3450
      @timmytuckerson3450 11 місяців тому +6

      Didn't they kick out the drummer because he was "RiGhT wiNg"? Sounds kinda petty to me lol

    • @Missconduct044
      @Missconduct044 11 місяців тому +36

      @@timmytuckerson3450 I guess u didn’t watch any of the video.
      But no, they didn’t kick out the drummer bc he’s right wing. Lol!

    • @muccmaster
      @muccmaster 11 місяців тому +12

      What are you talking about? The reason why they haven't released music in over a decade is because of petty fights. They've also thrown shade at each other for years while still touring together. It's idiotic how they can still tour, but can't record any new music due to egos. Darren literally said this year that Serj doesn't even want to be in the band anymore and hasn't for years.

    • @Missconduct044
      @Missconduct044 11 місяців тому +18

      @@muccmaster They don’t record new albums bc they’ve evolved into different things. Everyone knows serj isn’t into the heavier sound anymore and he’s like the first one to admit it. That doesn’t mean they don’t like each other. It’s actually the opposite, I’ve only heard them say amazing things about each other.
      Yes, they could boot serj, but out of RESPECT, they do not. I appreciate they want to try to keep the system “sound” I fell in love with. If that means no more music then so be it.
      It would hurt way more if they changed their sound and came out with like a pop record, or hired a new singer bc all I would ever want to hear is serj.
      I’d kill for a new album or tour, I need to take my kids!! Lol!! But for now, I’m just happy their not pulling slipknot. Just my opinion tho.

    • @Loki-sk7bi
      @Loki-sk7bi 11 місяців тому +7

      I hate what happened to Korn and Slipknot. I have total respect for SOAD no longer making new music.

  • @6sKi6z6
    @6sKi6z6 11 місяців тому +250

    I will always be proud to say that I got into this band on the ground floor. My girlfriend at the time in 1998 played the debut album cassette in my car while we drove around doing shit and it blew my mind. I bought the cd immediately afterwards. Then I got on their street team (remember those?) and passed out fliers and shit at local shows. In 2001 I was emailed “Chop Suey” for Windows Media Player about 3 weeks before “Toxicity” dropped and my jaw hit the floor again. I have many fond memories of playing the hell out of those first two albums and showing them to friends and getting their reactions. Then, Chop Suey, Toxicity and Aerials blew up and the rest is history.

    • @xOWARx
      @xOWARx 11 місяців тому +1

      Same

    • @DrScott666
      @DrScott666 11 місяців тому +9

      Bring back street teams! I don't go to as many shows anymore... I was on everyone's street team so I went to all the shows for free!

    • @katielowen
      @katielowen 11 місяців тому +6

      Marry that girl🥰

    • @Sorrowablaze
      @Sorrowablaze 11 місяців тому +7

      Back in '98 I remember thinking their singer sounded like Jello Biafra .... and later being surprised they hit it so big, because their sound is so different .
      Definitely loved that album ,sends me right back to 1998

    • @jeremysiron9622
      @jeremysiron9622 11 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, I was in high school at the time, in 10th grade, I remember it was actually an album that both the metal heads and the pucks loved. The punks jumped ship with “Toxicity” but for that one album they were united…

  • @ApplzAndHoney
    @ApplzAndHoney 11 місяців тому +178

    FINALLY. after years of begging, and years of his denial, we FINALLY GOT FINN MCKENTY TO MAKE A SOAD VIDEO!!!

  • @chasenhorizons
    @chasenhorizons 11 місяців тому +102

    Man, SOAD opened me up to such a unique sound and all the social issues as well that they spoke on about. It’s rare when a band can do this all without feeling like it’s ham-fisted. They also KILL IT live as well.

    • @megano2000
      @megano2000 11 місяців тому +5

      Seeing them live is on my bucket list!

    • @chasenhorizons
      @chasenhorizons 11 місяців тому +4

      @@megano2000 They are on my top five for sure! Saw them way back in like 2002. Just amazing

  • @muccmaster
    @muccmaster 11 місяців тому +142

    Toxicity is one of those few albums where every song is great. It's like the Enema Of the State of hard rock.

    • @lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191
      @lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 11 місяців тому +8

      As a person whose favorite bands are blink-182 and SOAD, absolutely

    • @thatoneguy2136
      @thatoneguy2136 11 місяців тому +11

      Dude for reals. Toxicity is definitely a 10/10 album. To me personally their other albums are alright with good songs but they don’t compare to Toxicity. That album is on a whole other level.

    • @robbieunger850
      @robbieunger850 11 місяців тому +8

      Their self titled and mesmerize are no skip albums for me as well as toxicity.

    • @Iamnotamonster
      @Iamnotamonster 10 місяців тому +3

      For real, i never thought i liked them until i found that album in a cd case my brother left behind. It was mind bending to me and i had to listen to it continuously for damn near a year. Then i went on to buy the rest of there catalogue good stuff!

    • @elenalewis6538
      @elenalewis6538 10 місяців тому

      @@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 NO. WAY. I thought I was the only one. Cheers my friend.

  • @colonelhstinkmeaner8547
    @colonelhstinkmeaner8547 11 місяців тому +81

    I wouldn't say they had a fall. Tbh if they came out and said they are making a album everyone would go nuts

    • @thedc9335
      @thedc9335 11 місяців тому +17

      This was my first thought when I saw the title... Excuse me, FALL?

    • @steveperez178
      @steveperez178 9 місяців тому +9

      Its just clickbait stuff creators use to get views. Its lame, but i get it.

  • @fizola88
    @fizola88 11 місяців тому +92

    I was born in 1988, so Toxicity got me in the best age ever, to help me make my taste. I blame them (and Korn, early Limp Bizkit, Early Linkin park, Placebo and basically most of 2000s alternative scene, and The Cure, just for being the Cure) for not being able to listen to many bands, cause, my standards are too high :)

    • @JoeyFTL
      @JoeyFTL 11 місяців тому +1

      Preach

    • @crazygamer241
      @crazygamer241 11 місяців тому +2

      I think we might be the same person.

    • @jcout25
      @jcout25 11 місяців тому +5

      You blame Limp Bizkit fir your high standards in music?

    • @fizola88
      @fizola88 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jcout25 Early LB, not the late ones :D

    • @JoeyFTL
      @JoeyFTL 11 місяців тому +3

      @@jcout25 music is subjective but the level of musicianship in that band is unreal. If that is something that matters to you, LB is up there.

  • @nsaad3048
    @nsaad3048 11 місяців тому +26

    I get they're not everyone's favorite, but as a fan I can appreciate them knowing when their "song is sung" and not milking the cow.
    Making heavy music that really resonates is hard to do. It's almost a young man's game in the sense that you have to unleash a little crazy to make it work.

    • @beanlegume9965
      @beanlegume9965 11 місяців тому

      Good point.

    • @darksu6947
      @darksu6947 11 місяців тому +1

      Something I've noticed about most bands is the fact that they stop being angry or perhaps they learned to just let some things be sometime in their late 20's, early 30's and the music goes downhill. I'm 36 and I'm not angry anymore and I've learned to just let things be most of the time, but why can't my favorite bands stay angry? 😢 lol

    • @mattgohlke8216
      @mattgohlke8216 7 місяців тому +1

      That's pretty much what it is. Most creativity drive comes from pain, frustration, and extra energy. Late 30's that stuff mellows and hopefully for most, you let go of a lot of shit or at least you're beginning to figure out how to.

  • @HeartlessKairi42
    @HeartlessKairi42 11 місяців тому +37

    They've been my favorite band since childhood, and it broke my heart finding out they were done touring in the late 2000s. I wasn't hearing much about them going into adulthood and I wasn't really listening to the radio often anymore (basically my Toxicity CD was getting real sick of me lol). By some stroke of luck in April 2018, while changing out CDs I just happened to catch a snippet of radio announcing that SOAD would be touring again and performing in Phoenix later that year and tickets were going on sale soon. I immediately called my husband and said that SOAD tickets were all I wanted for my birthday. We were pretty poor at the time so I didn't think he'd go for it but I cried when he let me pick out our seats a few days before my birthday, and it was all I could think about for months. Flash forward to the concert that October, I had the best night of my life with an amazing view of the stage at the Talking Stick Arena. I will never forget it, best birthday present EVER. 🤘

  • @andrewjordan3518
    @andrewjordan3518 11 місяців тому +15

    The first time I heard SOAD, my friends older brother saw my friend and I rocking out to something on the radio. He was like "wanna hear something crazy?" And put on Sugar and full volume.
    Instant love. I was maybe 11 years old.

  • @chrissettlemoir4503
    @chrissettlemoir4503 11 місяців тому +113

    system of a down never failed they were always and will always be great

    • @Ok-uw3jq
      @Ok-uw3jq 10 місяців тому +1

      Theyre okay

  • @yasserjamilq8
    @yasserjamilq8 11 місяців тому +17

    SOAD is one of the most unique metal bands in history.

  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE 11 місяців тому +58

    There was old digital bonus footage of SOAD's drummer looking like a boxer after drumming on Toxicity in the studio. He had towels, muscle rub etc etc because he was beating himself up playing so heavy. And we wonder why the public turned their back on modern metal when you have guitar nerd producers getting carpal tunnel in the wrist from mousing in drum replacement? That tells you what's wrong with metal today. Guitar dorks ruined rock and metal.

    • @Shanemalouf
      @Shanemalouf 11 місяців тому +4

      Sample replacement takes the drummer's performance and replaces the hits with cleaner samples. What's the point you're trying to make here?

    • @kage6613
      @kage6613 11 місяців тому +5

      GOD DAMN RIGHT!!!! SAY IT LOUDER!!!!!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE 11 місяців тому +9

      @@Shanemalouf Tippy tappy drums replaced by another person's sample to sound like Thors hammer is pathetic. It's not his stick, technique, snap, heads, room, drum heads etc. Do you like the video game Guitar Hero? When you mash the controller on time does that mean you are Brian May? Do you have his perfect bends, vibrato and attack? The public don't even know why they hate modern production but deep down they know it's fake.

    • @JoeyFTL
      @JoeyFTL 11 місяців тому

      Damn that is depressing.

    • @Shanemalouf
      @Shanemalouf 11 місяців тому +2

      Comparing sample replacement to guitar hero is such a false equivalency. It's meant to get rid of mic bleed, and in legit studios, the sample replacement will be of the same player on the same drum kit. Again, what is the actual point you are trying to make here? Metal production mostly sounded like hammered dog shit until the last 20 years or so.

  • @okcboomer87
    @okcboomer87 11 місяців тому +25

    I know you dont care for them but this was a good breakdown of SOAD's history without making it an hour long. These are always your best work so keep it up.

  • @ericlevenchuck6212
    @ericlevenchuck6212 11 місяців тому +12

    I saw them in Chicago opening up for Fear Factory. The place held a thousand people, and almost no one was there to see them, but I loved System the first time I heard their debut.

  • @alexneill8338
    @alexneill8338 11 місяців тому +173

    I know that "Rise and Fall" is a popular turn of phrase, but in this case the video should be called "The Rise & Enduring Popularity of SYSTEM OF A DOWN"

    • @sirdorkster
      @sirdorkster 10 місяців тому +6

      Nah, the title is dead accurate

    • @blackdirtlover
      @blackdirtlover 10 місяців тому +2

      Only to you fans, get over it.

    • @goatfromhell666
      @goatfromhell666 9 місяців тому

      The rise and getting out on top

    • @Marksorrells08
      @Marksorrells08 7 місяців тому

      I’m going to be seeing them at the end of the month I am beyond excited

  • @starkiller18
    @starkiller18 11 місяців тому +19

    Toxicity is still one of my all time favorite albums. I still play the record on a regular basis. it is one of those albums that just clicked with me at the right time and will always stick with me. It came out my sophomore year of high school and I agreed with a lot of the messages in the album and so it will always hold a fond place in my heart along side bands like Bad Religion and My Chemical Romance.

  • @AaaSWE
    @AaaSWE 11 місяців тому +14

    50% of my top song on my Spotify this year is by System of a down. They never get old.

  • @ocher8931
    @ocher8931 11 місяців тому +21

    The band that introduced me to metal. Thank you SOAD.

    • @LeoStep93
      @LeoStep93 2 місяці тому +1

      same. I heard them first time in 2006, when I was 13. I immediately fell in love. Looked them up on the internet and they just went on hiatus. I though "oh, that's a bummer that we won't have a new album for a bit, but Daron said "at least 3 years", so I guess in 5 years we'll have one..."
      Oh how wrong I was, I am 31 now, still waiting for my favourite band to come back ;(

  • @johnravana3070
    @johnravana3070 11 місяців тому +24

    Finn is in his “I got kids now” era. 🙏❤️

  • @jamesflames6987
    @jamesflames6987 6 місяців тому +3

    The kombucha "mushroom" is a symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast used to make kombucha tea which lives by doing nothing except passively absorbing sugar. Seems like a pretty simple metaphor to me.

  • @superunknown2812
    @superunknown2812 11 місяців тому +7

    I think its safe to say SOAD debut album blew alot of peoples minds when they first heard it

  • @philfoe551
    @philfoe551 11 місяців тому +31

    This band is a perfect example of what Rick Rubin brings as far as value. Made them stars

    • @kurtw6922
      @kurtw6922 11 місяців тому +6

      I agree. I heard those demos for the first time a couple weeks ago and I would not have bet on that band. And I say that as a huge fan of their discography. RR is goated

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 11 місяців тому

      Man, it's about time people quit sackriding Rick Rubin

    • @martyfromnebraska1045
      @martyfromnebraska1045 7 місяців тому

      Yeah being connected to the ethnic cartel that runs the world gives you the ability to decide who is a star and who isn't for sure.

  • @MyFlipperLikesIce
    @MyFlipperLikesIce 11 місяців тому +11

    I remember the first time i saw Chop Suey. I had to stop and watch it and I was like wtf is this!? My nephew was 8, almost 9, (I would've been 20) at the time and he essentially got me into them. It's kind of crazy because it wasn't just surface level, we dug into the band, the lyrics, everything and discussed the things they were singing about. Still one of our favourite bands. We had tickets to see them on the tour supporting Mesmerize but my nephew had to have emergency surgery and missed it. We did get to see them together in 2011 & it was an awesome show. We saw Serj twice on his solo tours too.

  • @devastaterx
    @devastaterx 11 місяців тому +5

    I had a friend who's name was System. He went by that for years cuz he loved SOAD and wanted to be called it. Great piece again. I always learn something new.

  • @Matt-yj1lz
    @Matt-yj1lz 11 місяців тому +8

    I stopped by the store on my walk home from school and bought the toxicity album. When i got home i put on chop suey and turned on the tv and put it on mute until i noticed the video was a plane crashing into the twin towers. ( My school decided not to tell us about 911 so i found out right then ) It was kind a wild seeing that while hearing "angels deserve to die".. ill never forget it.

    • @alexg585
      @alexg585 9 місяців тому

      Wow! Thats what I always picture in my head when I listen to chop suey.

  • @fireflyfox93
    @fireflyfox93 11 місяців тому +11

    You have to appreciate them for what they accomplished with so few albums. It's impressive no matter if you like their music or not.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 10 місяців тому

      You don't need to make many albums if they are that great and influential. Toxicity is definitely one of the defining nu metal albums of the 00s, alongside Hybrid Theory and Infest.

  • @readyaimfire3454
    @readyaimfire3454 11 місяців тому +9

    the thing that i found to be immediately alluring about SOAD was actually not the heavier/metal-ier aspects of their music. before i got into SOAD, i was not really interested in that stuff (now i definitely am so i guess they were my gateway band lol). it was the consistently gorgeous vocal melodies & harmonies that gave me chills. serj & daron to me are the nu metal layne & jerry. they have so much musical chemistry together & it makes me sad that their actual relationship dynamic is the complete opposite. my favorite song examples of this chemistry: radio/video, roulette, aerials, question!, lonely day, sad statue.

    • @stephantom8237
      @stephantom8237 11 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely! While I did always love their heavier segments, the contrast between that and the beautiful vocal harmonies the harshness so often eventually gave way to, sometimes at the climax of a song, was maybe my favorite thing about them.

  • @Malnxxty
    @Malnxxty 3 місяці тому +7

    banana banana banana banana terracotta banana terracotta terracotta pie

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 11 місяців тому +12

    I love this band for both the music and Armenian history.

  • @0dd1ty399
    @0dd1ty399 11 місяців тому +8

    finally he talks about nu metal again

  • @SuzuHotaruVt
    @SuzuHotaruVt 11 місяців тому +70

    System still having unreleased music is crazy. I wish eventually we get to hear it

    • @shakefl
      @shakefl 11 місяців тому +7

      Maybe they'll put it out with a deluxe release like Linkin Park did this year

    • @gregoryporch8395
      @gregoryporch8395 11 місяців тому +7

      They need to, seeing as the best album they ever made was with the material they cut from Toxicity.

    • @davidescristofaros2241
      @davidescristofaros2241 9 місяців тому

      @@gregoryporch8395For real, weird take but I think Steal this Album might be even better than Toxicity.

  • @vyphd3
    @vyphd3 11 місяців тому +4

    They didn't replace John last minute before the studio. Rubin saw System at the Roxy in 97 when John had already replaced the drummer

  • @packnetadaija
    @packnetadaija 11 місяців тому +7

    I mean I’m personally not a super huge fan of SOAD like I like a few of their songs but I could never really get super into them. I do acknowledge that they definitely are something different and you can tell it’s a SOAD song based on the singers voice, because it’s so distinct.

    • @deanwinchester3356
      @deanwinchester3356 8 місяців тому +1

      That’s exactly what I said and was trying to convey. I remember hearing Chop Suey and seeing their music video in high school around 2009 and thinking it was cool and edgy. I was already into Nu-Metal/hardrock, but after a while I realized they just weren’t my thing like Linkin Park or Three Days Grace and all those other bands at the time. Their voices were a little out there, and the music seemed too political or I couldn’t really fathom the lyrics without having to actually look into it.
      I also listened to them because a guy I liked back then and his friends listened to that stuff and I wanted to be into what he was into. 😂 This bands particular music just wasn’t my scene. I still love rock from 90’s grunge to alternative to pop punk… but SOAD was just never it for me, and is now nothing short of a reminder of me trying to be cool and edgy at 16. 🤣

  • @HontoNeet
    @HontoNeet 11 місяців тому +10

    I can say from personal experience that the SOAD to Meshuggah and black metal pipeline is real
    System of a Down's music is quite accessible, and really melodic when you think about it (two vocalists doing a lot of clean singing and harmonizing with each other, far from the norm for the nu metal bands they were lumped in with), yet it also attracts the kind of people who are willing to give "crazy" music a chance

  • @InfinityX2
    @InfinityX2 11 місяців тому +3

    Never thought of it that way but comparing SOAD to the Dead Kennedys is pretty spot on.

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 11 місяців тому +6

    I mean Serj had a point with the albums becoming redundant - I remember how we lost interest in the band in the early 2000s as it felt like there was a new SOAD album in someone’s CD player like every other weekend. Great band though.

    • @Divine_Serpent_Geh
      @Divine_Serpent_Geh 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, they had some great songs, but lots of them were very annoying to be perfectly honest.

    • @michaelegan3522
      @michaelegan3522 Місяць тому

      @@Divine_Serpent_Geh the last two albums definitely have some annoying songs

  • @joshuaprietophoto
    @joshuaprietophoto 11 місяців тому +3

    One of the best live performances I've seen.
    I wasn't the biggest fan of them but witnessed as the headliner of Brisbane Soundwave festival in 2012. Absolutely blown away and made me appreciate them much more.
    I wholly respect their music and their introducing a lot of people to many difficult but important topics

  • @SPac316
    @SPac316 11 місяців тому +8

    I loved this band, still in fact! Hard hitting riffs and deep vocals make them one of the best! I would love for them to make a new album, but I thought it is for the best when they took their hiatus.

  • @mydnytdeath
    @mydnytdeath 11 місяців тому +8

    Steal this Album is underrated in my opinion. It's a solid banger.

    • @zors5188
      @zors5188 11 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree! It’s my childhood fav :)

    • @LeoStep93
      @LeoStep93 2 місяці тому

      it's just that the other 4 are amazing masterpieces. so "worst SOAD album" still means pretty fucking great album!

  • @bmoneyrancidfan91
    @bmoneyrancidfan91 11 місяців тому +6

    Id say theyre the most unique metal band ever. No other bands ever tried to sound like them

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw 11 місяців тому +3

      I'll take SOAD over Slipknot TBH

    • @bmoneyrancidfan91
      @bmoneyrancidfan91 11 місяців тому +3

      @@wallaceshawn-zk8iw slipknots first album was great lost interest after that

  • @ChiefSpartan1
    @ChiefSpartan1 11 місяців тому +6

    Mad respect for you making this video. This band was my gateway drug for metal in general. I know they are not yout favorite, but thanks for being legit with this one.

  • @BBRocker75
    @BBRocker75 11 місяців тому +7

    SOAD don't rise and fall. SOAD just came, created amazing rock albums and then every member take their own ways. To me that's better than a Rolling Stone eternal fading into old ridicule puppets.

    • @LeoStep93
      @LeoStep93 2 місяці тому

      for real. they're like heavier version of the beatles. Effectively existed for only 10 years, but made a huge impact

  • @Otaku_Jinsei
    @Otaku_Jinsei 11 місяців тому +5

    Finn is talking about his favorite band lol

  • @kawaharaizumi731
    @kawaharaizumi731 11 місяців тому +5

    You're milking all the nu metal clicks and views and I'm all here for it 🙌very well done video, thanks Finn!

  • @ashtonturner2862
    @ashtonturner2862 11 місяців тому +5

    SOAD is a brilliant heavy metal band. Absolutely amazing musicians.

  • @DrScott666
    @DrScott666 11 місяців тому +4

    I saw them open for Slayer before the album came out. So when they were on at Ozzfest I made sure I caught there set. I really loved the song peephole. Moshing w Serj on the Lawn during Megadeth! So I special ordered the album the day it came out. I'll never forget counting down the day till the debut album June 30th 1998 came out. Sno Core with Mr Bungle smoking weed outside after with Shavo. Then they got HUGE and came the Pledge of Allegiance tour w Slipknot. Joey doing the Tommy Lee drum solo thing... Man those were great times!

  • @FatLarry493
    @FatLarry493 11 місяців тому +8

    3 things in life are certain: Death, Taxes, and Finn Mckenty talking about Nu-Metal, because people love it for some reason

  • @megano2000
    @megano2000 11 місяців тому +2

    SOAD is my favorite band of all, and "Chop Suey!" is my favorite song of all time. Despite not caring for their music, thank you so much for covering them nonetheless! ❤

  • @tdude3164
    @tdude3164 11 місяців тому +4

    I know your not a SOAD fan and theyre my favorite band and i think you did a great job covering them! I saw them twice back in 2018 and they sounded as good as ever!

  • @s3lfFish
    @s3lfFish 11 місяців тому +1

    Back in high school in 98, SOAD was one of my favorite metal band. Some 25 years later still is.
    Back in 2001, we didn't saw the backlash from the 9/11 on them, in Europe, everyone liked them, and no one in their right mind would have blamed them for being armenian, nor for condemning the irak wars (as much of the people were against it anyways).

  • @_ericc.
    @_ericc. 11 місяців тому +5

    Me when Finn has opinion:🤬😡🤬😠👿
    Me when Finn reads Wikipedia: 😩🥺🥵😋🤤

  • @Dolbee49277
    @Dolbee49277 10 місяців тому +2

    Saw them 10 years ago when I was 19. Jesus Christ I’m still waiting for them to come back around to my area. What a band.

  • @CrabSully
    @CrabSully 11 місяців тому +5

    Great video - pretty interesting. Such a quick rise and fall, honestly. In hindsight, it's wild how much they blew up, given how eclectic they are. I'm not sure thats as possible these days.
    I'm not a fan of SOAD, but I have so much respect for them. I love that they give Armenians a voice in the mainstream. Definitely needed, especially in 2020, when the conflict with Azerbaijan was at its worse and barely mentioned by mainstream media.

  • @anttikettunen8601
    @anttikettunen8601 11 місяців тому +1

    "I didn't think anyone was going to like them apart from a small likeminded group of people like me who were crazy"
    To everyones great surprise, there's a whole lotta crazies out there.

  • @dekapitatorr
    @dekapitatorr 11 місяців тому +3

    self titled is the best debut album of all time. insane and unique music, never duplicated by anyone. Toxicity was monster too, but there is something savage about self titled.
    MIND

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw 11 місяців тому

      An awesome Debut! Just like Korn & AIC

    • @neolbioldey
      @neolbioldey 10 місяців тому

      Mind

    • @mtc5
      @mtc5 2 місяці тому

      I wouldn't go that far in the presence of an album like Appetite for Destruction.

    • @dekapitatorr
      @dekapitatorr Місяць тому

      @@mtc5 not a fan of GNR but cant deny quality of that album although it is nowhere near originality of SOADs debut. NO ONE sounded like them.

  • @oliver13deft
    @oliver13deft 11 місяців тому +3

    great video man, hope you get lots of views! i loved this band when i was a teenager.

  • @baddayoverdosed
    @baddayoverdosed 11 місяців тому +2

    SOAD was absolutely my gateway drug to extreme music. A family road trip in the summer of 99 with the self titled album in my disc men was my first exposure to growling vocals that I would torture myself and my family trying to imitate. I saved up my lunch money and bought the Toxicity album on its release day during lunch and immediately went to the track Forest. My first time playing guitar in public was playing Roulette at my high school talent show. I am objectively a completely different person without their music.

  • @matheaudodds787
    @matheaudodds787 11 місяців тому +3

    SOAD is still to this day one of my most powerful musical influences

    • @lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191
      @lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 11 місяців тому

      If I started a band, they would be along with Linkin Park, Green Day, Nirvana, BMTH, Evanescence, RHCP, Foo Fighters, blink-182, Spiritbox, No Doubt, Radiohead, Deftones, MCR, Nightwish and Type O Negative

  • @wttruax5816
    @wttruax5816 11 місяців тому

    Soad was my favorite band growing up and definitely my main gateway to extreme music. We may never get a new album from them but I'll always be thankful for their music

  • @Pinkrosesandagraveyard
    @Pinkrosesandagraveyard 11 місяців тому +4

    I love SOAD and wished that Daron could have had less of an ego. I remember playing Toxicity as my mom drove me to high school and she would say that their music made her want to drive into other cars. 😂😂

    • @MonkeyKingsformerroomate
      @MonkeyKingsformerroomate 11 місяців тому +1

      I always suspected Daron had a lot to do with it. He said in interviews he was the first singer in System and then Serj came in. If you look at their albums, Daron barely sings in the first, mostly backup in toxcicity. Then increasing in frequency. Great writer, but his singing voice is crap comapred to Serj. He seems to have gotten a massive ego check when Scars on Broadway didn't do near as well. Age can do that to you too. Going by a recent interview I mean.

    • @deanwinchester3356
      @deanwinchester3356 8 місяців тому

      I don’t disagree with her.

  • @aswfishing4319
    @aswfishing4319 11 місяців тому +2

    I did not know it was an unpopular opinion that Steal This Album is my favorite album of theirs.

  • @MilitantMe
    @MilitantMe 11 місяців тому +3

    The video I thought I'd never see👏👏👏

  • @mohd8218
    @mohd8218 6 місяців тому +1

    Never fell. Still alive and kicking in fans heads everywhere

  • @AndreasKingMedia
    @AndreasKingMedia 11 місяців тому +5

    Love the video! You did a great job hitting on all the things that made this band special despite not being the biggest fan of them personally so thanks for that.
    It's worth mentioning how influential it was to be as aggressively anti-war in the middle east at that time, in a form of media that was accessible to me as a child. While there was certainly anti war sentiment that you could find, a lot of it was found in political commentary like Michael Moore which just wouldn't have reached someone my age at the time. SOAD and American Idiot probably did more to affect my long term political trajectory than anything else could have ever.

    • @JosePineda-jn8jk
      @JosePineda-jn8jk 11 місяців тому

      Same a lot of music like Rage Against the Machine, Immortal Technique, Anti Flag, NoFX, and KRS One opened my eyes to how Eurocentric everything is and the reality of the narrative our media wants us to see and agree with.

  • @burtbackattack
    @burtbackattack 6 місяців тому +1

    I fucking adore this band. I'm not a huge metal fan but I can remember when Chop Suey came out and was instantly a fan and have loved everything they've put out. It's just sad that they creatively stalled and stopped putting out new material. They're still playing shows so there's still hope though.

  • @thecleanslateshow4593
    @thecleanslateshow4593 11 місяців тому +8

    System of a Down had a fall?
    They’re still a massive band and people still support and talk about them 24/7? But ok

    • @AndreasKingMedia
      @AndreasKingMedia 11 місяців тому +4

      I mean.... they aren't even really a band anymore but ok

    • @deanwinchester3356
      @deanwinchester3356 8 місяців тому

      Massive isn’t a word I would use to describe them. No one talks about them, certainly not 24/7. You’re acting like they’re famous like Taylor Swift 😂 They’re about as popular as Limp Biscuit or Rage Against the Machine. Those two obviously have fans as well and people listen to their music on UA-cam or Spotify, but they aren’t super popular. Plus, SOAD aren’t even together.
      I always looked at them as one of those bands you listen to when you’re trying to be an edgy 16 year old and eventually grow out of by the time you graduate high school.

    • @iqbalmuhammad2920
      @iqbalmuhammad2920 2 місяці тому

      ​@@deanwinchester3356
      Agree that they are no longer massive.
      But they are still more popular & well known than RATM outside of North America. Like both bands.
      They have 1 video with 1 billion views in UA-cam for that.

  • @icomefromthemountain291
    @icomefromthemountain291 11 місяців тому +1

    Love your show! Your audio is so much better now that you use the SM7B. Thanks for doing that. The previous echo in the room made it hard to watch.

  • @RennxD
    @RennxD 10 місяців тому +4

    Can you talk about AUDIOSLAVE? love to see your take on the band history, this chanel is gold!

  • @TUBESTOOL
    @TUBESTOOL 8 місяців тому

    My son has recently got into SOAD. We sing in the car on the way to school. He told me today that the singer has the same voice as me. I told him that was a big compliment. Sharing music with your kids is great.

  • @jeffnicholas6342
    @jeffnicholas6342 11 місяців тому +3

    As a 90’s D.I.Y. hardcore, power violence, and black metal enthusiast, when I first saw them on MTV I was stoked that the next generation of kids could hear blast beats, crazy changes, and breakdowns

  • @mickey2ky
    @mickey2ky 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for content and hanging with the community dude!

  • @bornon18
    @bornon18 11 місяців тому +4

    Gen0cidal Humanoidz showed that the guys just don't have it in them anymore. The very reason why their initial run of 5 albums was so amazing was because they clearly enjoyed playing together and were at the peak of their creative form. Scars On Broadway debut record was the last piece of that original SOAD energy. From Daron's baffling decision to play all the instruments on Scars On Broadways' second LP and the album sounding like trash as a result, to Serj's weird cross-genre escapades, almost none of which turned out listenable, all of their other solo/side activities are just pure self-indulgence and regurgiation of what has already come before.

  • @chrisk1383
    @chrisk1383 7 місяців тому +1

    if ned shneebly were to ever have an assistant teacher for rock theory and appreciation, it would have to be Finn

  • @Carvania
    @Carvania 11 місяців тому +6

    I will say that system of a down is one of my favorite bands ever. I learned how to play drums by listening to their first 2 albums. I liked steal this album but I was pretty disappointed with everything after that. (Not just musically) but when they started wearing suits and stuff they weren't the same band anymore. Something just wasn't right anymore.

    • @Fuhrdaddy
      @Fuhrdaddy 11 місяців тому

      Yeah last 2 were trash.. hated their guitar tuning amongst other shit.

  • @DickGozinya-zl2bd
    @DickGozinya-zl2bd 11 місяців тому +2

    It's hard to pick just ONE band as your all-time favorite but, if someone held a gun to my head & said I had half a second to pick one, it would be SOAD hands down.

  • @drtheengrumb4439
    @drtheengrumb4439 11 місяців тому +3

    Fall??? They are just as big as Slipknot lol. I bet many metal/death bands would love to follow SOAD's steps.

    • @iqbalmuhammad2920
      @iqbalmuhammad2920 2 місяці тому

      As a SOAD fan, I do believe Slipknot is currently more popular.

  • @Eirik36
    @Eirik36 11 місяців тому

    My dude, as I’ve said before, my favorite content you make is history videos like this

  • @itcheebeard
    @itcheebeard 11 місяців тому +4

    Wait.......Finn praising SOAD? Did I fall into the twilight zone?!

    • @erik2311
      @erik2311 11 місяців тому

      Hes constantly shits on them on the 2nd channel. He hates them.

    • @itcheebeard
      @itcheebeard 11 місяців тому

      @@erik2311 yeh I know lol

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 11 місяців тому +2

    I will forever be a SOAD fan. In the late 90s I was super into downloading AMV music videos, Or just fan made music videos in general, from napster. I came across a trigun one and Sugar was the song used. I loved the song but didn't know who the band was but I listened to it a ton.
    When Toxicity dropped I was 11 years old and for some reason the gardening store next to my house was selling random CDs (the owner used to have a record store that had just shut down) so I bought it. I was instantly in love. When Steal this album came out I pretended like it didn't exist. Then when Hypnotize and Mesmerize came out I spent many hours listening to it while riding around in my friends 1992 toyota celica. Just so many fond memories listening to them even if their music is a little cheesy at times I will forever be a fan.
    One of my biggest regrets though was missing a live show in 2004 or 2005. They were playing in houston texas with The Mars Volta and Coheed and Cambria (I think). I was in houston that night but didn't save money to go to the show. I thought surely I will get a chance to see them in Tulsa, OK someday. Nope. Never got to see either Mars Volta or SOAD live. But did see Coheed live in like 2003 as they were an opener for A Static Lullaby who was opening for AFI. That was really cool. AFI was surprisingly one of the best live shows I have ever seen.

  • @GS-zh4uy
    @GS-zh4uy 11 місяців тому +4

    One of my favorite bands if only for the important message they keep carrying. Artsakh free 🇦🇲✊

  • @amstreater
    @amstreater 8 місяців тому

    I’m 37. Last year I finally started learning to play drums as I’ve always wanted to. You better believe Chop Suey is on my list of songs I aspire to learn. I was 14 when it came out, just getting into alternative music and spending huge amounts of my free time on the internet. Their music was raw, weird, and dark, but still somehow fun. It was like nothing else I’d ever head and nothing I’ve heard since. I only recently learned about how they reached #1 when 9/11 happened and it explained why they’re so inextricably linked in my mind. Toxicity will always be one of my favourite albums.

  • @itcheebeard
    @itcheebeard 11 місяців тому +3

    SOAD will forever hold a huge spot in my heart. They were my 12 to 16 year old phase between 99 and 2003 before moving on to death metal and hardcore et al.
    I might not align with a lot of their politics these days, but I'll still sing war?, darts, spiders, forest, deer dance, and highway song in the shower when no one's home.

    • @tessanichole2544
      @tessanichole2544 11 місяців тому

      Yasssss! 🎉🎉 party years! Best ever too! Right before cellphones videoed everything and we could still smoke in designated areas outside of our vehicles and home lololol

    • @Jekyl99999
      @Jekyl99999 11 місяців тому

      ahaha same

    • @itcheebeard
      @itcheebeard 11 місяців тому

      @tessanichole2544 we could still smoke in pubs and restaurants back then in the UK lol

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm so glad to have seen them live on the "Nova Rock" festival in 2011.

  • @300avg
    @300avg 11 місяців тому +1

    I owe so much of my taste in music to soad. They’re truly one of a kind

  • @Thrashman-ye4cf
    @Thrashman-ye4cf 7 місяців тому +1

    Prison song will always hold a special place in my heart. It’s a banger, it gets you goin, and sadly the lyrics still ring true. It’s also crazy to me how old B.Y.O.B. Is now. I still remember when that came out clearly.

  • @robswystun2766
    @robswystun2766 11 місяців тому +2

    Their cover of Snowblind is easily the best song on either of the Nativity in Black albums.

    • @wdj2131
      @wdj2131 11 місяців тому +1

      Amazing cover of an epic song!

  • @robringwald
    @robringwald 7 місяців тому +1

    SOAD: My first favorite rock band when I was 14

  • @sk8punk318
    @sk8punk318 10 місяців тому +1

    System of a Down brings back so many good memories of my teenage years

  • @theotherguy5304
    @theotherguy5304 10 місяців тому +1

    I get strangely excited when I hear that guitar intro

  • @LeadMe2TheBliss
    @LeadMe2TheBliss 11 місяців тому +1

    SOAD did a short tour with KoЯn in 2022 and headlined Sick New World so they are still an active band, from what I could tell from the video clips I watched of their recent performances Serj doesn't seem to be into their music anymore like he used to.

  • @linkage8700
    @linkage8700 3 місяці тому +1

    There can never be a downfall when you are a legend.